Jan. 31, 2024

Embracing Change: The Power of Delegation and Mindset in Business Growth

Embracing Change: The Power of Delegation and Mindset in Business Growth

n this insightful episode, we dive deep into the concepts of delegation, mindset, and personal development in the context of business growth. Our hosts engage in a candid discussion about the importance of focusing on strengths, outsourcing tasks like bookkeeping, and the psychological aspects of handling business and personal growth. They share personal stories and insights on overcoming fears and embracing change.


Key Discussion Points:

  • The psychological shift from saying "sorry" to expressing gratitude.
  • The impact of outsourcing tasks like bookkeeping on personal and business growth.
  • The importance of focusing on what you're good at and delegating the rest.
  • Overcoming mental barriers and the value of investing in professional help.
  • The distinction between working 'in' your business and working 'on' your business.


Valuable Takeaways:

  • How to identify and lean into your strengths in business.
  • Understanding the psychological aspects of business management.
  • Practical tips for effective delegation and outsourcing.


WEBVTT 00:01.102 --> 00:02.964 Let's just go. 00:08.348 --> 00:09.429 He's back on the show. 00:09.569 --> 00:10.670 Jamie Schreier is back. 00:10.690 --> 00:11.691 Jamie, it's been too long. 00:11.791 --> 00:12.572 My apologies. 00:13.993 --> 00:15.254 It has been too long. 00:15.334 --> 00:16.635 Please don't apologize. 00:16.675 --> 00:18.777 We apologize too much in this country. 00:18.817 --> 00:20.298 We apologize for everything. 00:21.016 --> 00:24.238 I saw someone do a New Year's intention, 00:24.278 --> 00:25.678 not resolution, but intention. 00:25.958 --> 00:27.059 And this was a female. 00:27.139 --> 00:30.221 And she was pointing out how herself, 00:30.241 --> 00:31.101 and then she noticed other 00:31.141 --> 00:32.041 females in her office, 00:32.502 --> 00:34.563 their first impulse is to apologize. 00:35.583 --> 00:38.645 And she was commenting how a 00:38.745 --> 00:40.245 simple flip of instead of 00:40.546 --> 00:41.706 if she was late for a meeting, 00:41.806 --> 00:43.267 instead of I'm sorry I'm late, 00:43.827 --> 00:45.248 it was thank you so much 00:45.308 --> 00:45.988 for your patience. 00:47.069 --> 00:49.570 And she went into how that changes things. 00:51.141 --> 00:54.384 Yeah, I've experienced the same thing, 00:55.645 --> 00:56.906 maybe that same example. 00:56.986 --> 00:59.909 But yeah, instead of saying, you know, 01:00.409 --> 01:01.110 I'm sorry, 01:01.130 --> 01:03.752 you you kind of reverse it and 01:04.333 --> 01:05.794 you make it much more of a positive. 01:06.535 --> 01:08.716 Or I also heard this. 01:09.017 --> 01:10.398 It's instead of saying, I'm sorry, 01:10.438 --> 01:10.958 I was late. 01:11.019 --> 01:12.460 Just like I'm late. 01:12.480 --> 01:16.443 Yeah, just just just date it. 01:17.443 --> 01:18.664 I'm late thank you for your 01:18.684 --> 01:20.825 patience right yeah you 01:20.865 --> 01:23.106 know it's hard because uh 01:23.506 --> 01:24.466 we could dive into this 01:24.506 --> 01:26.207 because we we say sorry all 01:26.227 --> 01:27.448 over the place it is it's 01:27.508 --> 01:28.828 almost like a I think I 01:28.868 --> 01:31.329 think it's a selfish kind 01:31.529 --> 01:35.191 of um it's various it it's 01:35.231 --> 01:36.452 a selfish way like 01:36.472 --> 01:38.192 psychology wise like I'm 01:38.312 --> 01:39.713 sorry like you have to 01:39.753 --> 01:40.994 respond to not now I'm 01:41.074 --> 01:42.774 sorry oh yeah like you know 01:42.794 --> 01:44.895 my response is is is always um 01:47.045 --> 01:48.186 You don't need to apologize. 01:48.526 --> 01:49.647 Don't apologize to me. 01:49.767 --> 01:51.128 You're making the thing worse. 01:51.748 --> 01:52.508 I'll get on a call with 01:52.548 --> 01:53.849 someone who's late and 01:53.869 --> 01:55.430 they'll spend five minutes apologizing. 01:55.450 --> 01:55.690 I said, 01:56.151 --> 01:59.112 we're already late on our coaching call. 01:59.573 --> 02:00.613 You don't have to spend five 02:00.653 --> 02:01.794 minutes apologizing because 02:01.814 --> 02:03.215 it's not going to change everything. 02:03.635 --> 02:05.196 We're on it right now. 02:05.637 --> 02:05.957 Right. 02:06.017 --> 02:08.258 Just say, Jamie, I'm late. 02:08.778 --> 02:09.739 Thanks for your patience. 02:09.779 --> 02:10.059 Thanks. 02:10.079 --> 02:11.200 Thanks for waiting. 02:12.061 --> 02:12.381 You know, 02:14.065 --> 02:15.266 Hope you weren't worried 02:15.467 --> 02:16.808 that I wasn't going to show. 02:17.008 --> 02:18.090 Like something. 02:19.011 --> 02:20.052 Don't rant for three minutes 02:20.212 --> 02:21.073 that you were late because 02:21.113 --> 02:22.755 now we're five minutes past 02:22.815 --> 02:23.776 plus the extra three. 02:24.236 --> 02:24.497 Right. 02:25.077 --> 02:25.338 Yeah. 02:27.240 --> 02:28.241 So something I want to talk 02:28.261 --> 02:29.202 about with you that we were 02:29.262 --> 02:30.463 like sort of discussing. 02:30.483 --> 02:32.606 I feel like you're one of 02:32.646 --> 02:33.867 those few people who I 02:33.887 --> 02:34.848 could get on a call with. 02:34.988 --> 02:35.449 I mean – 02:36.201 --> 02:36.701 we've done this. 02:36.721 --> 02:37.582 This isn't something I feel 02:37.622 --> 02:38.042 like we can do. 02:38.062 --> 02:39.343 This is what we do is we 02:39.363 --> 02:40.503 have nothing to talk about. 02:40.643 --> 02:41.564 And then we get on a call 02:41.604 --> 02:43.265 and then two hours goes by and we're like, 02:43.745 --> 02:44.705 we should have recorded that. 02:45.846 --> 02:47.727 And just before we hit record here, 02:47.767 --> 02:50.949 we were talking about, um, 02:51.529 --> 02:52.329 how would I summarize what 02:52.349 --> 02:52.790 we're talking about? 02:53.090 --> 02:53.210 Um, 02:55.467 --> 02:56.908 Setting ourselves up for success, 02:56.988 --> 02:57.949 or at least that's what I 02:57.989 --> 02:58.930 was looking at it as. 02:59.110 --> 03:01.772 And I am on that bandwagon 03:01.812 --> 03:03.554 of I never made resolutions. 03:03.874 --> 03:04.374 Or I did, 03:04.414 --> 03:05.816 but I never followed them because 03:06.136 --> 03:07.677 they weren't realistic. 03:08.158 --> 03:09.919 So now the idea is intentions. 03:10.740 --> 03:12.101 So I'll tell you what I'm doing. 03:12.141 --> 03:13.082 And this is good because 03:13.122 --> 03:13.882 this is almost like I'm 03:13.902 --> 03:14.863 getting free business 03:14.903 --> 03:15.664 coaching from Jamie. 03:15.684 --> 03:17.125 This is how I sneak stuff from people. 03:18.123 --> 03:19.847 So I took one of the things 03:19.887 --> 03:21.790 that I was really, really nervous about. 03:21.891 --> 03:23.133 And you've talked about this. 03:23.514 --> 03:24.496 You had a term for it. 03:24.596 --> 03:26.540 Checkbook accounting? 03:26.941 --> 03:27.682 No, it was something different. 03:27.702 --> 03:27.883 It was... 03:28.735 --> 03:30.776 It was like, yeah, you were like, 03:30.836 --> 03:31.536 is there money in there? 03:31.656 --> 03:31.876 Yes. 03:32.076 --> 03:32.497 Then we're good. 03:32.917 --> 03:34.657 It's like, wait, that's not a great idea. 03:34.677 --> 03:35.338 That's not a great way to 03:35.358 --> 03:36.258 run your life for you. 03:36.478 --> 03:36.758 Good. 03:36.978 --> 03:37.899 No money bad. 03:38.279 --> 03:40.300 It's more than like this. 03:40.560 --> 03:40.820 Right. 03:41.400 --> 03:42.681 So when this podcast started, 03:42.721 --> 03:43.681 this thing was a goof. 03:43.801 --> 03:44.582 This thing was a joke. 03:44.662 --> 03:45.962 It was just like a goof thing. 03:46.042 --> 03:46.242 Right. 03:46.322 --> 03:47.223 And then it became a thing. 03:47.643 --> 03:49.524 And then it started to generate revenue. 03:49.984 --> 03:51.485 And then I, you know, 03:51.605 --> 03:52.745 I did what everybody did, 03:52.805 --> 03:53.765 which is probably Jamie's 03:53.805 --> 03:54.726 going to shake his head at me. 03:55.286 --> 03:56.387 But maybe other people do it, too. 03:56.507 --> 03:58.088 I got like a QuickBooks online account. 03:58.108 --> 03:58.848 I was like, all right. 03:59.488 --> 04:01.989 And that was like buying to 04:02.049 --> 04:02.830 QuickBooks credit. 04:02.850 --> 04:04.891 It was like buying a Formula One car. 04:05.882 --> 04:07.362 I had no idea to freaking use it. 04:07.722 --> 04:08.303 I mean, I could. 04:08.343 --> 04:09.343 I could send an invoice and 04:09.363 --> 04:10.083 I could sort of try. 04:10.123 --> 04:12.964 And I was like, it looks good. 04:13.064 --> 04:14.504 But when an error popped up, I was like, 04:14.604 --> 04:16.805 I have no idea what's going on. 04:16.865 --> 04:17.105 So 2024, 04:17.105 --> 04:18.785 I'm leaning into what are the 04:18.865 --> 04:20.266 things that I'm good at? 04:20.506 --> 04:21.446 Let's do more of those. 04:21.886 --> 04:22.666 What are the things that I'm 04:22.806 --> 04:24.467 self-conscious or insecure about? 04:24.927 --> 04:26.467 Let's not just close the door, 04:26.487 --> 04:27.948 put them in the closet, close the door, 04:28.028 --> 04:28.848 sweep them under the rug 04:28.888 --> 04:30.388 and hope nothing bad happens. 04:30.768 --> 04:31.749 So I'm leaning into that. 04:31.829 --> 04:33.309 So I'm hiring a professional. 04:33.809 --> 04:34.591 to do those things. 04:34.771 --> 04:35.452 And it, you know, 04:35.472 --> 04:36.915 we're recording the first week of the, 04:37.055 --> 04:37.696 of the new year. 04:37.857 --> 04:39.339 And I had a conversation with, 04:40.161 --> 04:41.383 I won't say who, but it's like, it's, 04:41.463 --> 04:42.184 it's a, it's a, 04:42.445 --> 04:44.388 I found them from an ad and I, 04:44.649 --> 04:45.710 you're hiring like a 04:45.730 --> 04:47.093 bookkeeper bookkeeper. 04:50.131 --> 04:52.412 And I feel good about it so far. 04:52.532 --> 04:53.133 I'm like, oh, 04:53.273 --> 04:54.273 someone's going to do the 04:54.313 --> 04:55.494 thing that every year in 04:55.614 --> 04:57.595 April... I had someone doing my books, 04:57.635 --> 04:59.356 but I needed to do them and 04:59.376 --> 05:00.137 then walk into this 05:00.177 --> 05:02.858 person's office with all my papers. 05:02.958 --> 05:03.779 And then they did stuff. 05:03.799 --> 05:04.899 And it still never felt good. 05:05.320 --> 05:06.360 This is more of a service 05:06.380 --> 05:08.181 where I can call them whenever I want. 05:08.782 --> 05:09.562 And they're looking at my 05:09.582 --> 05:10.823 books and they're doing them. 05:10.923 --> 05:12.364 And I'm like, take my money. 05:12.904 --> 05:14.665 Because I hated the emotion 05:14.765 --> 05:16.146 of not doing it myself. 05:16.266 --> 05:16.586 Hated it. 05:17.745 --> 05:18.926 You know what this is called? 05:19.146 --> 05:21.067 This is called being a 05:21.127 --> 05:23.289 professional versus being an amateur. 05:24.369 --> 05:26.731 Or you're looking at this as 05:26.791 --> 05:28.312 a business versus a hobby. 05:29.753 --> 05:32.315 And what's interesting is if 05:32.355 --> 05:34.236 we're focusing on the 05:34.556 --> 05:35.797 physical therapy world, 05:36.677 --> 05:38.559 what is it that we want people to do? 05:39.539 --> 05:40.940 We want people who obviously 05:40.980 --> 05:41.721 are appropriate 05:42.591 --> 05:45.053 to take the time and the 05:45.113 --> 05:47.995 money to seek out an expert 05:48.575 --> 05:49.936 who has trained and 05:50.036 --> 05:53.279 dedicated their lives in this area. 05:54.059 --> 05:56.121 So instead of taking longer 05:56.241 --> 05:58.182 or possibly not fixing your 05:58.222 --> 05:59.083 problem at all, 05:59.623 --> 06:01.384 you can get it fixed quicker, 06:01.464 --> 06:02.445 you can get back to doing 06:02.485 --> 06:03.186 things you love. 06:04.547 --> 06:05.588 And what you just said was 06:05.648 --> 06:07.830 interesting is I finally 06:07.910 --> 06:11.093 made the decision to hire, you said, 06:11.133 --> 06:12.554 a professional or you could 06:12.594 --> 06:14.977 say an expert that actually 06:15.197 --> 06:16.598 has dedicated their life 06:17.479 --> 06:20.462 and their time to learn the 06:20.942 --> 06:22.364 art and the science of 06:22.484 --> 06:23.925 bookkeeping so they can 06:23.985 --> 06:25.026 help other people. 06:25.406 --> 06:25.547 Yes. 06:26.286 --> 06:28.028 And here's the interesting point. 06:28.088 --> 06:29.849 You and I, when we first came on, I said, 06:29.929 --> 06:31.070 you know, how are we doing? 06:31.090 --> 06:31.310 I said, 06:31.651 --> 06:32.952 I've been going deep in the last 06:32.992 --> 06:33.672 several months. 06:34.093 --> 06:34.853 And this is the kind of 06:34.873 --> 06:36.495 stuff I'm going deeper in. 06:36.935 --> 06:39.257 I'm going much more under the surface, 06:40.118 --> 06:41.198 especially with psychology 06:41.218 --> 06:41.939 and how we think. 06:42.540 --> 06:43.580 And what's interesting is. 06:45.100 --> 06:46.761 We want people to do the 06:46.861 --> 06:50.022 thing that we aren't doing ourselves. 06:50.642 --> 06:53.443 And let's just be clear, your business, 06:53.583 --> 06:55.824 your life is to the extent 06:56.664 --> 06:57.764 of how you think, 06:58.785 --> 07:02.966 how you make decisions and 07:03.086 --> 07:04.787 how you handle your own 07:05.127 --> 07:07.088 stuff that's in our head or the emotions. 07:07.708 --> 07:10.069 So the more you upgrade you, 07:11.468 --> 07:12.810 the better your business and 07:12.830 --> 07:14.011 the better your life becomes. 07:14.251 --> 07:16.274 This is one big selfish ride. 07:16.754 --> 07:17.755 All we have to do, 07:18.296 --> 07:21.240 like this just kind of came to me, Jamie. 07:21.280 --> 07:23.042 I'm just like, so wait a minute, 07:23.142 --> 07:24.023 wait a minute, Jamie. 07:24.624 --> 07:25.485 All you have to do is just 07:25.585 --> 07:27.427 really 100% just focus on 07:27.467 --> 07:28.368 you getting just better. 07:28.748 --> 07:28.889 Yes. 07:29.329 --> 07:30.790 reading more, learning more. 07:31.311 --> 07:32.712 You know, you practice in private, 07:32.732 --> 07:34.033 which you get paid for in public, 07:34.053 --> 07:35.814 like practicing, creating. 07:36.374 --> 07:37.595 And the more you do that, 07:37.776 --> 07:39.076 the more you will attract 07:39.157 --> 07:40.518 better people and the more 07:40.558 --> 07:41.879 you will help more people, 07:42.139 --> 07:43.140 which will then in turn 07:43.480 --> 07:45.541 bring more people into your world. 07:46.462 --> 07:49.264 But it's fearful because our 07:49.344 --> 07:50.645 mindset looks at, 07:50.825 --> 07:52.106 and I don't want to speak for you, 07:52.126 --> 07:53.467 but if you're like most people, 07:54.188 --> 07:54.969 it's a cost. 07:55.389 --> 07:55.469 Yep. 07:56.246 --> 07:57.867 And what we don't appreciate, 07:58.347 --> 07:59.807 because most of us are 07:59.867 --> 08:02.549 still in hobby mode or amateur hour, 08:03.269 --> 08:05.390 is we don't appreciate the 08:05.470 --> 08:09.731 fact that our time is valuable. 08:11.592 --> 08:14.533 And we have been trained and 08:14.693 --> 08:16.054 taught to think 08:16.954 --> 08:19.596 that every dollar we spend 08:19.777 --> 08:22.399 is an expense yet we're 08:22.439 --> 08:23.700 telling other people when 08:23.740 --> 08:25.361 you come to us it's an 08:25.441 --> 08:26.562 investment in your health 08:26.883 --> 08:28.384 that's all we have to do 08:28.984 --> 08:30.065 you'll love this one we can 08:30.085 --> 08:32.367 move on all we have to do 08:33.228 --> 08:35.049 is be the person we want 08:35.170 --> 08:37.512 our clients to be that's why that's it 08:38.544 --> 08:41.005 Just be that person and you 08:41.065 --> 08:42.987 will attract more clients 08:43.307 --> 08:44.347 because you'll know how 08:44.387 --> 08:45.608 they think because you 08:45.668 --> 08:46.529 think the same way. 08:46.809 --> 08:48.410 But what you can't do is 08:48.450 --> 08:49.811 have outside people do 08:49.871 --> 08:50.971 things that you yourself 08:51.071 --> 08:51.912 are not willing to do. 08:52.892 --> 08:53.693 That doesn't work. 08:53.993 --> 08:54.733 Wait, what do you mean by that? 08:54.773 --> 08:56.755 You can't have outside people like, 08:57.015 --> 08:58.055 but aren't I? 08:58.095 --> 08:59.536 I'm hiring someone to do the bookkeeping. 08:59.676 --> 09:01.037 I would be a fraud. 09:02.038 --> 09:02.338 I would. 09:02.418 --> 09:02.678 No, no, no. 09:02.738 --> 09:03.478 I don't mean it like that. 09:03.618 --> 09:05.700 I mean, I would be a fraud. 09:06.903 --> 09:08.443 If I didn't have a coach. 09:09.123 --> 09:09.784 Oh, I see what you mean. 09:09.884 --> 09:10.044 Yeah. 09:10.064 --> 09:11.664 If I didn't immerse myself 09:11.744 --> 09:12.684 into the coaching world. 09:12.704 --> 09:13.104 In other words, 09:13.764 --> 09:15.485 if I'm not willing to do 09:15.565 --> 09:18.905 the things such as hire a bookkeeper, 09:19.425 --> 09:20.826 such as hire a coach, 09:21.106 --> 09:22.386 but I'm expecting my 09:22.546 --> 09:24.046 clients or potential 09:24.086 --> 09:25.987 clients to do those things, 09:26.707 --> 09:27.887 you have something that is 09:28.027 --> 09:29.147 lacking integrity. 09:29.747 --> 09:30.767 Can you get away with it? 09:31.107 --> 09:31.268 Sure. 09:31.288 --> 09:32.128 There's lots of people that 09:32.168 --> 09:33.028 don't have integrity that 09:33.048 --> 09:33.768 make plenty of money. 09:34.525 --> 09:36.407 But if you're truly aligned 09:36.867 --> 09:37.648 with who you are, 09:37.728 --> 09:38.989 what you want and all that, 09:39.649 --> 09:40.870 all you have to do are to 09:40.950 --> 09:41.851 do things that you're 09:41.951 --> 09:43.112 asking other people to do. 09:43.613 --> 09:45.694 So when I get fears and I got fears, 09:46.115 --> 09:47.696 I got worries, I got concerns. 09:47.736 --> 09:48.237 I'm human. 09:48.737 --> 09:50.018 I get myself caught up with 09:50.058 --> 09:51.079 all kinds of stuff. 09:51.499 --> 09:53.341 But what I've done is not 09:53.421 --> 09:54.942 beat myself up that that 09:55.022 --> 09:56.203 happens because I'm human. 09:56.704 --> 09:58.866 But I've learned how to manage that. 09:59.426 --> 10:00.567 So I don't make really 10:00.627 --> 10:02.248 stupid mistakes that are 10:02.268 --> 10:05.069 really costly and affect people and ruin, 10:05.729 --> 10:07.010 make things even worse. 10:07.730 --> 10:11.112 So that's really the thing here, Jimmy, 10:11.212 --> 10:14.194 is you're starting to have 10:14.254 --> 10:15.955 more respect for what you 10:15.995 --> 10:17.135 do and who you are. 10:17.155 --> 10:19.357 And the minute you get that clarity, 10:20.327 --> 10:23.610 It took you about a second to then go find, 10:23.630 --> 10:25.171 make the decision to go find that person. 10:25.432 --> 10:26.112 And then by the way, 10:26.533 --> 10:28.474 that person may not be the right person. 10:29.255 --> 10:30.556 Six months from now, you may be like, 10:30.596 --> 10:31.097 you know what? 10:32.538 --> 10:34.600 She was good or he was good, but you know, 10:34.620 --> 10:35.580 they just didn't do this. 10:35.621 --> 10:36.121 And I want to do this. 10:36.561 --> 10:37.702 Some people at that point, 10:37.802 --> 10:38.723 if that happens to you, 10:39.304 --> 10:40.445 don't say it didn't work. 10:41.872 --> 10:43.214 That's a mistake people make. 10:43.254 --> 10:44.435 Well, I hired someone so, 10:44.455 --> 10:45.076 and it didn't work. 10:45.096 --> 10:46.577 So I just took it back into myself. 10:47.458 --> 10:47.979 Just say, 10:48.680 --> 10:51.623 these are the good things that happened. 10:51.823 --> 10:53.705 These are the areas that didn't work out. 10:54.206 --> 10:55.868 So if I brought someone else on, 10:56.088 --> 10:57.229 I would want these areas 10:57.489 --> 10:58.511 and then find someone else. 11:00.031 --> 11:00.951 And then what you do is you 11:00.971 --> 11:02.872 just keep looking at where 11:02.932 --> 11:04.192 is Jimmy not spending 11:04.232 --> 11:06.632 Jimmy's best time and effort. 11:06.933 --> 11:08.753 And you have to believe that 11:08.973 --> 11:12.254 that has a just so much more value. 11:12.774 --> 11:15.074 But man, we have some deep money issues. 11:15.454 --> 11:16.075 We all do. 11:16.915 --> 11:17.795 And we just look at 11:17.995 --> 11:19.675 everything as a damn cost. 11:19.915 --> 11:20.195 Yeah. 11:20.896 --> 11:22.096 And it trapped us. 11:22.935 --> 11:25.037 Because we're just selling our time, 11:25.077 --> 11:26.439 like selling our soul. 11:26.719 --> 11:28.641 We're selling our soul to the money death. 11:29.021 --> 11:30.583 We just keep selling it and selling it. 11:30.603 --> 11:32.165 I think we have endless time 11:32.665 --> 11:34.087 hoping that I'm just going 11:34.107 --> 11:34.888 to do this for now, 11:34.948 --> 11:36.449 but eventually I'll hire 11:36.509 --> 11:37.310 someone to do this. 11:37.650 --> 11:39.773 You don't because you get into habits. 11:40.453 --> 11:41.595 And habits, as we know, 11:41.675 --> 11:43.116 are so hard to break. 11:44.177 --> 11:45.559 So anyways. 11:47.534 --> 11:48.737 Was that planned on our talk today? 11:48.877 --> 11:49.718 It wasn't planned. 11:50.159 --> 11:53.445 So that's one thing that I 11:53.465 --> 11:55.689 was saying to myself in 2024. 11:55.689 --> 11:57.132 I don't know why we do this 11:57.192 --> 11:59.035 around a calendar change, but we do. 12:00.003 --> 12:00.243 I said, 12:00.263 --> 12:01.904 I'm going to lean into the scary things. 12:02.164 --> 12:03.385 And one of them was like, 12:03.425 --> 12:04.905 I hate this bookkeeping thing. 12:04.986 --> 12:06.306 And it's on my calendar every month. 12:06.426 --> 12:06.886 Do this. 12:06.967 --> 12:08.087 Send out the invoices and 12:08.227 --> 12:09.488 reconcile and do all these things. 12:09.848 --> 12:11.049 And I knew I was doing them poorly. 12:11.069 --> 12:12.089 And I hated it. 12:12.509 --> 12:13.370 And it was probably costing 12:13.410 --> 12:14.850 me money in the end because 12:15.051 --> 12:15.751 I'm not good at it. 12:16.331 --> 12:17.252 The second thing was... 12:18.300 --> 12:19.220 What are the things that I 12:19.260 --> 12:22.442 could bring someone on that I'm okay at, 12:22.522 --> 12:23.462 I don't mind doing, 12:23.502 --> 12:25.383 but I don't love anymore, maybe I used to, 12:25.763 --> 12:26.984 and they're just plain better than me. 12:27.664 --> 12:29.445 And while they're doing that thing, 12:29.765 --> 12:30.605 I could be doing the other 12:30.645 --> 12:32.406 things that I'm more suited for, 12:32.786 --> 12:37.008 like doing, and move the needle, right? 12:37.048 --> 12:38.469 Move and put things in the net. 12:39.169 --> 12:41.070 And that was hiring someone. 12:41.450 --> 12:43.791 Again, I started in radio as an editor, 12:44.071 --> 12:44.731 as an audio editor. 12:44.751 --> 12:45.332 That's where you start. 12:45.492 --> 12:46.572 Either handing out bumper stickers, 12:46.612 --> 12:48.413 which I did, or editing, which I did. 12:49.253 --> 12:50.894 And I'm bringing on an editor too, 12:51.114 --> 12:51.654 which is like, 12:51.714 --> 12:52.974 I need someone because I'd 12:53.014 --> 12:54.455 rather be talking to Jamie. 12:54.795 --> 12:55.355 And then later on, 12:55.375 --> 12:56.496 I'm talking to F. Scott. 12:56.876 --> 12:58.016 And that's two episodes. 12:58.396 --> 12:59.017 Well, in the past, 12:59.057 --> 13:00.277 I could talk to Jamie and 13:00.357 --> 13:02.238 edit Jamie and then release Jamie. 13:03.343 --> 13:05.164 Now, with adding an editor, 13:05.184 --> 13:07.625 and I preach this to clients all the time, 13:07.685 --> 13:08.946 but did not do it because I was like, 13:08.966 --> 13:10.067 well, I know how to do it. 13:10.107 --> 13:11.888 So it feels it's like cutting my own grass, 13:12.068 --> 13:12.928 which I actually like doing. 13:13.589 --> 13:15.109 But it's like, at some point, 13:15.149 --> 13:17.371 if I owned so much grass, 13:17.791 --> 13:19.392 or I had so much other things to do, 13:19.432 --> 13:20.372 and that wasn't on my list 13:20.432 --> 13:21.413 is like pay someone to do it then. 13:22.423 --> 13:23.784 I don't like cutting my own grass. 13:24.204 --> 13:25.325 I've hired someone else to do it. 13:25.765 --> 13:27.086 You see, that's the beautiful part. 13:27.146 --> 13:28.527 I'm not living by Jimmy's 13:28.607 --> 13:30.588 rules or someone else's rules. 13:31.008 --> 13:33.450 I'm living by what Jamie likes to do, 13:33.890 --> 13:35.291 what gives Jamie energy, 13:35.852 --> 13:37.673 and what doesn't give Jamie energy. 13:38.093 --> 13:39.554 Some people like to cut 13:39.614 --> 13:40.615 grass because it's kind of 13:40.635 --> 13:42.716 this meditative with the sound. 13:42.736 --> 13:44.157 They like going out there. 13:44.637 --> 13:45.778 Some people don't. 13:46.647 --> 13:48.388 but what you don't want to 13:48.428 --> 13:49.789 do is start getting caught 13:49.889 --> 13:51.610 up into justification 13:51.630 --> 13:53.011 because we're really good 13:53.031 --> 13:55.012 at justifying yes because 13:55.132 --> 13:56.633 our ego is fragile you know 13:56.653 --> 13:57.754 I told you I've been going 13:57.794 --> 14:00.135 deep a lot of this our ego 14:00.195 --> 14:02.097 is fragile so if we do 14:02.157 --> 14:03.097 something that's kind of 14:03.157 --> 14:05.459 like counter like 14:06.844 --> 14:09.125 Let's say you don't like to cut your grass, 14:09.185 --> 14:10.145 but you don't want to pay 14:10.165 --> 14:11.066 for someone to do it. 14:11.646 --> 14:13.246 You'll justify it because 14:13.266 --> 14:15.387 you have to satisfy the ego that's saying, 14:15.447 --> 14:17.188 hey, I'm fragile here. 14:17.628 --> 14:18.669 Make sure that we have a 14:18.709 --> 14:20.149 good reason that we can 14:20.209 --> 14:22.530 tell whoever you're telling. 14:23.070 --> 14:25.071 But this happens in business 14:25.111 --> 14:25.771 all over the place. 14:25.811 --> 14:27.992 I mean, the number one place that happens, 14:28.432 --> 14:29.052 I'm not talking in the 14:29.092 --> 14:30.173 beginning of your business. 14:30.573 --> 14:31.473 I'm talking about after you 14:31.513 --> 14:33.034 have several hundred thousand dollars, 14:33.054 --> 14:33.994 maybe like six, 14:34.034 --> 14:34.674 seven hundred thousand 14:34.694 --> 14:35.435 dollars in revenue. 14:36.275 --> 14:37.448 But you're still treating 40, 14:37.448 --> 14:38.419 50 hours a week. 14:39.180 --> 14:39.481 Why? 14:39.501 --> 14:41.505 And we're not talking about 14:41.805 --> 14:42.767 not able to hire. 14:43.368 --> 14:44.570 You're choosing not to hire 14:44.590 --> 14:45.251 because you're like, 14:45.452 --> 14:48.437 I'm making more money if I 14:48.497 --> 14:49.359 don't hire someone. 14:50.623 --> 14:51.804 but you're also trapped in 14:51.824 --> 14:53.765 your business and you can't 14:53.825 --> 14:54.846 look at the other things 14:54.866 --> 14:55.527 that you don't even know 14:55.587 --> 14:57.148 exist because you don't 14:57.168 --> 14:58.149 have that viewpoint because 14:58.169 --> 14:59.350 your viewpoint's a clinician, 14:59.770 --> 15:01.291 but then you justify it saying, 15:01.451 --> 15:02.252 I'm saving money. 15:02.872 --> 15:05.194 This is the mental game that 15:05.354 --> 15:08.136 keeps us really small and that keeps us 15:09.037 --> 15:11.618 doubt. 15:11.738 --> 15:12.819 If you had to explain 15:12.919 --> 15:14.239 working on or working in 15:14.280 --> 15:15.400 your business to someone 15:15.440 --> 15:16.320 because they sound the same, 15:16.400 --> 15:17.801 how do you explain the 15:17.841 --> 15:18.842 difference between the two? 15:18.862 --> 15:23.604 I'm going to stop there. 15:23.684 --> 15:24.284 How do you explain the 15:24.304 --> 15:24.964 difference between working 15:25.104 --> 15:27.406 on and working in your own business? 15:28.166 --> 15:28.626 First of all, 15:28.666 --> 15:29.526 do you know where that whole 15:30.007 --> 15:30.687 stuff came from? 15:30.707 --> 15:31.527 No. 15:31.547 --> 15:36.570 It came from the EMF, Michael Gerber. 15:37.310 --> 15:37.731 He's the one, 15:37.971 --> 15:38.833 at least that's where I first 15:38.873 --> 15:40.356 saw it in the late 90s, 15:41.178 --> 15:42.280 working in your business on it. 15:42.300 --> 15:43.743 People are still using it left and right. 15:44.083 --> 15:44.444 I love it. 15:44.484 --> 15:46.528 People are using it that are 15:46.568 --> 15:47.650 actually working in the business. 15:48.211 --> 15:48.712 It's simple. 15:49.815 --> 15:51.477 In the business is you're 15:51.537 --> 15:52.398 physically in the 15:52.558 --> 15:54.340 operations of the business. 15:54.620 --> 15:55.241 The day-to-day. 15:55.801 --> 15:57.603 You're responsible for 15:58.144 --> 16:00.787 something within the day-to-day, 16:00.867 --> 16:02.909 week-to-week operations of it. 16:03.630 --> 16:05.251 When you're working on the business, 16:05.532 --> 16:07.974 you're working with strategic planning. 16:08.675 --> 16:12.337 You're working with support and training. 16:12.837 --> 16:14.498 You're working with building 16:14.678 --> 16:16.218 networks and relationships 16:16.498 --> 16:17.719 and looking and exploring 16:17.759 --> 16:18.599 for opportunities. 16:19.360 --> 16:20.840 You're looking at things 16:20.940 --> 16:22.961 from a different perspective. 16:23.661 --> 16:25.782 So you could say working on the business, 16:25.802 --> 16:26.363 you're going to have a 10,000, 20,000, 30, 16:26.363 --> 16:26.623 000 foot view. 16:26.683 --> 16:27.623 Working in the business, 16:27.643 --> 16:28.423 you're on the ground floor. 16:32.793 --> 16:34.234 You're in it delivering. 16:34.255 --> 16:35.936 So that's the way I simply 16:36.136 --> 16:38.259 see it is I see in it. 16:39.059 --> 16:40.541 You can't be in it and see 16:40.561 --> 16:41.542 what's outside of it. 16:41.622 --> 16:43.084 It's impossible for anything. 16:43.404 --> 16:44.405 Can you go back? 16:44.625 --> 16:47.588 Coach, I can't see what I don't see. 16:48.189 --> 16:49.650 I'm in my business as much 16:49.710 --> 16:52.213 as I'm removed from maybe 16:52.253 --> 16:53.614 some of the day to day like you're doing. 16:54.055 --> 16:55.056 You're not doing the editing. 16:55.516 --> 16:57.577 So I don't do my social media. 16:57.837 --> 16:58.417 But you know what? 16:58.877 --> 16:59.757 I shoot videos. 17:00.957 --> 17:01.838 I like to shoot videos. 17:01.878 --> 17:02.518 I like to teach. 17:02.558 --> 17:03.178 I like to train. 17:03.498 --> 17:04.678 I just don't do the crap 17:04.878 --> 17:05.579 that actually puts the 17:05.619 --> 17:07.039 video on the thing and 17:07.079 --> 17:07.999 measures all the stats. 17:08.539 --> 17:09.460 I just show up and say, 17:09.740 --> 17:10.800 tell me what the stats are 17:11.240 --> 17:12.921 and tell me what's working 17:13.221 --> 17:14.441 and what we have to do to improve it. 17:15.421 --> 17:15.961 That's it. 17:16.562 --> 17:18.082 I don't stop doing that part. 17:18.902 --> 17:20.983 But all of the administrative, all that, 17:21.323 --> 17:22.404 that's in the business. 17:22.484 --> 17:25.146 Delivery of care, that's in the business. 17:25.166 --> 17:26.747 That's part of your operations. 17:27.447 --> 17:29.568 Looking at numbers and 17:29.668 --> 17:30.829 looking at your metrics, 17:31.930 --> 17:33.771 that is on your business. 17:34.551 --> 17:35.812 Putting the metrics together, 17:35.832 --> 17:38.113 that's in your business. 17:39.134 --> 17:41.215 You are hiring someone to 17:41.275 --> 17:42.876 put the bookkeeping and the 17:42.936 --> 17:44.037 numbers and the financials. 17:44.960 --> 17:45.840 But don't ever make the 17:45.880 --> 17:47.801 mistake that at least once a month, 17:48.281 --> 17:49.741 you don't block out a half hour, 17:49.741 --> 17:52.401 45 minutes to review what that is. 17:52.902 --> 17:54.822 That is on business stuff. 17:55.362 --> 17:56.562 I'll say one more thing about it. 17:57.623 --> 17:59.023 It's hard to work on your 17:59.083 --> 18:00.163 business if you don't have 18:00.203 --> 18:01.323 a clear picture of what the 18:01.343 --> 18:02.063 heck you're working on. 18:03.224 --> 18:03.684 In other words, 18:03.704 --> 18:05.304 we talk about New Year's resolutions. 18:05.364 --> 18:07.585 Well, I teach New Year's resolutions. 18:07.645 --> 18:08.765 I just call it something different. 18:09.105 --> 18:10.245 We just call it creating a 18:10.285 --> 18:13.466 yearly plan and having certain, 18:15.410 --> 18:19.013 habits formed that the 18:19.053 --> 18:20.014 habits right now aren't 18:20.094 --> 18:21.796 serving us so the habit of 18:21.876 --> 18:23.558 right now is is making you 18:23.578 --> 18:24.639 know reactive decisions 18:24.699 --> 18:25.600 because I emotionally get 18:25.640 --> 18:27.501 crazy because I hate you 18:27.541 --> 18:29.163 know you know looking at 18:29.203 --> 18:30.945 the bank and doing bank 18:30.985 --> 18:32.266 balance accounting as mike 18:32.286 --> 18:34.148 mcalowicz talks about then 18:34.168 --> 18:35.869 to do a better habit is 18:35.909 --> 18:36.810 well you know what how 18:36.830 --> 18:38.151 about I just hire someone 18:38.792 --> 18:41.375 that takes that so then the 18:41.415 --> 18:42.977 habit becomes I will set a 18:43.037 --> 18:44.739 meeting twice a month once 18:44.779 --> 18:46.401 a month and have that 18:46.461 --> 18:48.443 person explain to me how 18:48.543 --> 18:49.804 our books are doing and all 18:49.824 --> 18:51.166 of that so you've 18:51.286 --> 18:54.289 substituted a habit to help 18:55.070 --> 18:56.472 remove another habit 18:56.932 --> 18:58.975 willpower does not change habits 18:59.801 --> 19:01.002 I'm going to lose weight. 19:01.122 --> 19:01.562 That's it. 19:01.622 --> 19:02.302 I'm going to do it. 19:02.822 --> 19:04.983 You have to put in safeguards. 19:05.003 --> 19:06.404 You have to put in things 19:06.744 --> 19:09.665 that over time creates a new habit. 19:10.045 --> 19:11.966 You can't just cut things cold turkey. 19:12.006 --> 19:12.526 That doesn't work. 19:12.546 --> 19:14.347 But anyway, I digress. 19:14.387 --> 19:16.648 But when we look at these resolutions, 19:17.668 --> 19:18.248 you're just making 19:18.308 --> 19:21.050 decisions of what you will 19:21.090 --> 19:22.210 do and what you won't do. 19:23.210 --> 19:24.471 You're just creating that. 19:24.511 --> 19:26.052 But it has to be towards something. 19:26.412 --> 19:27.332 If it's not towards something, 19:27.372 --> 19:27.992 it doesn't stick. 19:28.252 --> 19:29.033 I want to lose weight. 19:29.173 --> 19:29.373 Why? 19:30.646 --> 19:32.007 Well, because I want to feel better. 19:33.187 --> 19:33.488 Why? 19:34.408 --> 19:35.569 I want to look good in clothes. 19:35.709 --> 19:36.049 Why? 19:37.090 --> 19:40.071 Because I feel like a stronger person. 19:40.091 --> 19:41.232 I feel more confident. 19:41.512 --> 19:42.773 I'll be able to be stronger 19:42.813 --> 19:43.654 around my friends. 19:44.074 --> 19:44.894 How important is that? 19:45.074 --> 19:45.835 It's important more than 19:45.875 --> 19:46.595 anything in the world. 19:46.895 --> 19:47.136 Good. 19:48.036 --> 19:49.157 Now you're connecting 19:49.277 --> 19:51.358 something to the weight loss. 19:51.958 --> 19:53.159 Now the question becomes, 19:53.759 --> 19:55.320 how serious are you about it? 19:55.340 --> 19:56.141 What are you willing to do? 19:56.881 --> 19:59.424 Because if the willpower is your only way, 19:59.824 --> 20:00.565 it's going to fail, 20:00.786 --> 20:02.347 which is why just go to the 20:02.407 --> 20:03.669 gym in February. 20:03.689 --> 20:04.490 You'll see what I mean. 20:04.750 --> 20:05.591 Nobody will be there. 20:05.891 --> 20:07.373 Same old, same old people will be there. 20:08.914 --> 20:10.256 But it's the same thing in our business, 20:10.296 --> 20:10.496 too. 20:11.337 --> 20:12.198 Same exact thing. 20:12.298 --> 20:13.600 We come up with this stuff. 20:13.920 --> 20:15.602 OK, starting the first week of June. 20:16.829 --> 20:18.631 Then we come to February and March, 20:19.171 --> 20:20.192 and the only thing we're 20:20.212 --> 20:21.913 doing are the habits that 20:21.953 --> 20:23.214 are already established. 20:24.255 --> 20:25.436 It's hard, dude. 20:25.657 --> 20:26.137 It's hard. 20:26.517 --> 20:29.220 I use a lot of Jamie Schreier-isms. 20:29.900 --> 20:30.481 Just the other day, 20:30.501 --> 20:33.123 I probably used them wrong, 20:33.163 --> 20:34.584 but the sentiment is there. 20:34.884 --> 20:35.745 I was talking to someone. 20:35.765 --> 20:36.025 I was like, 20:36.045 --> 20:37.186 you're in the getting ready stage. 20:37.206 --> 20:38.267 I'm like, when's that going to happen? 20:38.287 --> 20:38.968 Well, I'm getting ready. 20:38.988 --> 20:39.969 I'm getting ready. 20:43.140 --> 20:44.161 Getting ready to get ready. 20:44.181 --> 20:45.322 I'm getting ready to get, you know, 20:45.342 --> 20:46.723 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm like, 20:46.783 --> 20:48.124 what's preventing you from doing that? 20:48.284 --> 20:48.985 And they didn't ask. 20:49.025 --> 20:51.146 And I just kept saying, but why, but why? 20:51.206 --> 20:53.148 And then eventually they were like me. 20:53.348 --> 20:54.088 And I was like, now, 20:54.289 --> 20:55.409 now we have a breakthrough. 20:56.851 --> 20:59.893 So, so you have me on here to coach you. 20:59.933 --> 21:00.854 So let me coach you and 21:00.874 --> 21:03.095 everyone else can be the fly on the wall. 21:03.776 --> 21:05.457 So you can, 21:05.537 --> 21:06.918 you can actually go further 21:06.978 --> 21:08.460 instead of saying what's preventing you, 21:08.480 --> 21:09.781 you can tell them what's preventing you. 21:10.666 --> 21:12.068 So obviously there's some 21:12.228 --> 21:14.851 level of fear that's 21:14.891 --> 21:16.233 causing you to not take action. 21:16.813 --> 21:18.355 What specifically is it? 21:19.837 --> 21:22.821 So now instead of having to think this, 21:23.241 --> 21:24.763 you made it easier to think. 21:25.344 --> 21:25.964 What's the thing? 21:26.425 --> 21:28.147 Because we know it's fear. 21:29.088 --> 21:29.709 We know it's fear. 21:30.768 --> 21:31.829 What I don't know is what 21:31.909 --> 21:32.989 the fear is for them. 21:33.649 --> 21:34.770 But you know what's amazing 21:34.790 --> 21:36.251 when I ask that question to people? 21:36.851 --> 21:38.052 When they actually say it, 21:38.452 --> 21:39.893 it depowers the fear. 21:39.973 --> 21:41.794 The fear is left when it's out there. 21:42.174 --> 21:43.434 Fear likes to hide. 21:43.955 --> 21:45.635 It likes to hide right in our brain. 21:46.236 --> 21:47.757 I always tell people like, look, 21:47.857 --> 21:50.078 let's shine a light on the fear, 21:50.138 --> 21:52.619 on the uncomfortableness, on the worry. 21:52.659 --> 21:54.660 Let's shine a light on that 21:54.680 --> 21:55.160 son of a bitch. 21:55.260 --> 21:56.101 Because once you do... 21:57.310 --> 21:58.591 it loses its power. 21:59.031 --> 22:02.633 So you're ready for a parallel between me, 22:02.913 --> 22:03.954 how I selected this book 22:03.994 --> 22:06.475 company organization and 22:06.595 --> 22:07.295 physical therapy. 22:07.555 --> 22:09.196 And part of this might be 22:09.356 --> 22:10.397 the system is broken, 22:10.577 --> 22:12.038 but I get tired of giving 22:12.118 --> 22:13.679 excuses of the system's broken. 22:13.939 --> 22:14.579 So I'm just going to sit 22:14.599 --> 22:15.179 here and complain. 22:15.880 --> 22:18.001 So here's two things you talk about fear. 22:18.321 --> 22:19.542 And when you shine a light on it, 22:20.262 --> 22:21.783 my shoulders drop and a fear went away. 22:22.458 --> 22:23.958 I had no idea what monthly 22:23.998 --> 22:24.859 bookkeeping would cost. 22:24.939 --> 22:25.619 I was like, is it $1,000? 22:25.659 --> 22:26.759 Is it $10,000? 22:27.279 --> 22:28.120 I don't know. 22:28.240 --> 22:29.140 And I would go to websites 22:29.280 --> 22:29.940 and no one would tell me. 22:30.880 --> 22:32.261 I was like, just ballpark it for me. 22:32.441 --> 22:32.981 Is it $100? 22:34.001 --> 22:34.501 Is it $10,000? 22:35.282 --> 22:36.262 Because if it's $10,000, 22:36.262 --> 22:37.862 I ain't making $10, 22:37.862 --> 22:38.763 000 a month kind of money to pay. 22:38.863 --> 22:39.303 I don't know that. 22:40.083 --> 22:41.964 So I had no idea, no context. 22:42.964 --> 22:45.765 This company had very clear ballparks. 22:46.005 --> 22:46.265 They're like, 22:46.305 --> 22:47.765 if you're an entrepreneur that does this, 22:48.165 --> 22:48.906 it's this, it's this. 22:49.006 --> 22:50.426 So I was like, oh, okay. 22:51.852 --> 22:53.655 That's completely doable. 22:53.895 --> 22:54.897 I'm in that range. 22:55.297 --> 22:55.978 And they had options, 22:56.078 --> 22:56.979 monthly versus yearly. 22:57.000 --> 22:57.240 They're like, 22:57.260 --> 22:58.041 you're going to save more money. 22:58.121 --> 22:59.042 I was like, okay. 22:59.824 --> 23:01.706 And the second thing was they... 23:03.723 --> 23:05.485 made it very easy to figure 23:05.585 --> 23:06.926 out if this was the right person. 23:07.406 --> 23:09.008 They said, if this, 23:09.448 --> 23:10.429 and they listed a couple of 23:10.449 --> 23:11.089 the different things. 23:11.170 --> 23:12.331 If this sounds like you, 23:12.671 --> 23:13.992 we don't know if we can help you, 23:14.412 --> 23:15.213 but you click here. 23:15.413 --> 23:16.774 We put you one-on-one for 20 23:16.774 --> 23:17.675 minutes with someone on the phone. 23:17.975 --> 23:19.417 You ask them all the questions you want, 23:19.757 --> 23:20.998 and then they will let you 23:21.058 --> 23:22.640 know if you sound like a good fit. 23:23.300 --> 23:23.460 Now, 23:23.540 --> 23:24.880 take everything about bookkeeping that 23:24.900 --> 23:27.321 I just said and replace it 23:27.381 --> 23:28.341 with physical therapy 23:28.361 --> 23:29.581 because Jamie and I are PTs. 23:30.182 --> 23:31.082 The problem, I think, 23:31.202 --> 23:33.602 is that cost thing is so 23:33.722 --> 23:35.643 ambiguous sometimes that 23:35.703 --> 23:37.043 people probably are like me 23:37.083 --> 23:37.923 because there's that fear. 23:38.403 --> 23:38.764 Is this a $10,000? 23:39.444 --> 23:40.844 Does this ever end? 23:40.904 --> 23:42.724 Is this three times a week forever? 23:43.285 --> 23:44.025 What is this? 23:44.245 --> 23:46.525 And I think that is, for my opinion, 23:46.605 --> 23:48.326 a limiting factor why a lot of people, 23:48.406 --> 23:49.026 patient-wise, 23:49.606 --> 23:50.969 might not begin that 23:51.049 --> 23:52.331 conversation with a PT. 23:52.591 --> 23:53.613 They can't understand the 23:53.713 --> 23:55.916 outcome because the process 23:55.996 --> 23:57.238 feels very ambiguous. 23:57.859 --> 24:00.223 Well, we're in a world of, well, 24:00.343 --> 24:00.784 I say this, 24:02.810 --> 24:04.411 We're in a world of transparency. 24:05.131 --> 24:06.731 People want transparency. 24:06.971 --> 24:07.611 Having said that, 24:07.851 --> 24:11.112 not everyone's transparent, as we know. 24:11.592 --> 24:13.753 But the successful companies 24:13.913 --> 24:14.933 are transparent. 24:15.613 --> 24:18.734 They tell you up front what this is. 24:19.634 --> 24:21.395 And the reason they do that 24:21.415 --> 24:23.635 and are successful is 24:23.655 --> 24:25.116 because they're clear on who they are. 24:25.916 --> 24:27.157 They're clear on the type of 24:27.217 --> 24:28.397 person they want to serve. 24:29.058 --> 24:31.299 They're clear on what is the 24:32.039 --> 24:34.101 cost or whatever the things that you get. 24:34.201 --> 24:35.101 Like I learned from this, 24:35.161 --> 24:37.022 like originally when I was doing coaching, 24:37.042 --> 24:39.143 I didn't know myself. 24:40.104 --> 24:41.665 Like I did everything kind 24:41.705 --> 24:42.966 of like off the cuff. 24:43.446 --> 24:46.588 Like I knew how to help you, but the cost, 24:46.628 --> 24:47.808 I would be changing my mind. 24:47.828 --> 24:48.469 I'd be doing this. 24:48.509 --> 24:49.329 I'd be like, oh, maybe this. 24:49.369 --> 24:51.210 Like that's not what people want. 24:51.230 --> 24:52.611 That didn't make people feel secure. 24:55.296 --> 24:56.037 Oh, my bad, dude. 24:56.077 --> 24:56.457 That was bad. 24:56.477 --> 24:57.097 I'll edit that out. 24:57.138 --> 24:58.178 That was me. 24:58.218 --> 25:01.381 The idea is, and this is the mindset shift, 25:01.421 --> 25:01.641 right? 25:01.721 --> 25:03.322 That's a big part of what 25:03.362 --> 25:04.263 we're doing here. 25:04.603 --> 25:06.565 We're changing how we think about things. 25:07.085 --> 25:08.026 The shift is, 25:08.046 --> 25:10.408 how about we look at it from 25:10.448 --> 25:13.070 the perspective of our patients, 25:13.730 --> 25:15.332 of our client? 25:15.432 --> 25:17.293 What is it that would make 25:17.373 --> 25:19.435 them feel comfortable? 25:20.200 --> 25:21.402 what is it that they would 25:21.522 --> 25:22.903 need to be able to make a 25:22.943 --> 25:25.486 decision so this is by the 25:25.546 --> 25:27.588 way jimmy working on the 25:27.628 --> 25:29.531 business stuff you can't do 25:29.611 --> 25:31.172 this when you have 30 25:31.172 --> 25:32.274 things on your plate you 25:32.314 --> 25:34.196 have 20 notes to do you got 25:34.216 --> 25:35.277 a bunch of patients coming 25:35.357 --> 25:36.538 in you got docs on the 25:36.558 --> 25:37.620 phone you got insurances 25:37.660 --> 25:40.263 denying you you you can't do this 25:42.476 --> 25:45.197 In that world, you need to step away, 25:45.297 --> 25:46.878 step all the way back and saying, 25:47.398 --> 25:50.179 how do we create a better 25:50.379 --> 25:52.239 experience for our client, 25:52.639 --> 25:53.479 for our patient? 25:53.980 --> 25:55.400 And you just have to keep 25:55.480 --> 25:56.500 asking questions. 25:57.161 --> 25:58.401 How do we do that on the 25:58.981 --> 26:01.242 idea of expectations? 26:02.822 --> 26:03.862 People feel more comfortable 26:03.903 --> 26:05.363 when they know what's expected of them. 26:06.409 --> 26:07.510 In Practice Free to View, 26:08.130 --> 26:10.251 our first call is called a 26:10.312 --> 26:11.312 getting started call. 26:12.033 --> 26:13.093 And we tell people, 26:13.153 --> 26:15.235 I tell them on my initial discovery call, 26:15.275 --> 26:16.315 but we tell people, 26:16.896 --> 26:18.056 I just want to be clear. 26:18.857 --> 26:21.118 Here's what you can expect from us. 26:21.258 --> 26:21.979 I start out with us. 26:22.819 --> 26:24.180 Here's what you can expect from us. 26:24.640 --> 26:25.920 We are going to provide you 26:26.180 --> 26:27.101 everything you need. 26:27.521 --> 26:28.701 We are going to support you. 26:29.141 --> 26:30.002 We're going to kick your 26:30.102 --> 26:31.522 butt sometimes if we have to. 26:32.182 --> 26:33.163 But you're going to have 26:33.383 --> 26:34.243 everything you need to 26:34.383 --> 26:35.764 build the business and the 26:35.864 --> 26:36.984 practice that you want. 26:37.804 --> 26:39.165 Here's what we need from you. 26:40.165 --> 26:43.226 We expect you to show up on time, 26:43.786 --> 26:44.347 prepared. 26:45.147 --> 26:46.667 We expect you to block out 26:46.767 --> 26:47.628 on your calendar. 26:48.550 --> 26:50.150 our coaching calls and et cetera. 26:50.911 --> 26:54.171 We expect you to do the best you can, 26:55.432 --> 26:56.372 the best you can. 26:57.372 --> 26:59.692 Now, where did I get that? 27:00.333 --> 27:03.053 It's the exact same thing I did with PT. 27:03.953 --> 27:06.234 In my practice, when I had trouble, 27:06.294 --> 27:06.594 you know, 27:07.874 --> 27:09.855 retaining patients and visits 27:09.915 --> 27:12.035 and cancellations, I just, you know, 27:12.075 --> 27:13.115 I started talking to my 27:13.255 --> 27:14.456 coach and mentors and all that. 27:14.476 --> 27:15.156 And I've just been like, 27:16.158 --> 27:17.038 You have to look at it from 27:17.058 --> 27:17.599 their perspective. 27:17.659 --> 27:19.480 How do you make their thing? 27:19.720 --> 27:20.700 And don't assume you know 27:20.800 --> 27:21.581 what they're thinking. 27:23.021 --> 27:24.302 So we start to ask questions 27:24.342 --> 27:26.403 and we realize that, first of all, 27:26.423 --> 27:27.624 they don't even know what we do. 27:28.824 --> 27:30.225 And what they do know is 27:30.265 --> 27:31.346 incorrect information, 27:31.726 --> 27:33.747 but it doesn't mean they 27:33.767 --> 27:34.587 don't believe it. 27:35.608 --> 27:35.888 Well, 27:35.988 --> 27:37.549 I believe I have to go a million times. 27:38.809 --> 27:40.170 I believe that you're going to hurt me. 27:41.508 --> 27:42.989 I believe that I'm gonna get 27:43.049 --> 27:44.350 nickel and dime with stuff. 27:44.430 --> 27:45.191 I believe that I'm gonna get 27:45.211 --> 27:45.971 stuck with the bill. 27:46.772 --> 27:48.593 You don't judge whether 27:48.653 --> 27:49.534 they're right or wrong. 27:49.934 --> 27:52.136 All you have to do is start 27:52.896 --> 27:54.317 figuring out responses, 27:54.357 --> 27:55.858 which is called answering objections. 27:56.539 --> 27:57.519 You just have to figure out, 27:57.880 --> 28:00.542 so how are you going to respond to that? 28:00.902 --> 28:01.522 Well, guess what? 28:02.003 --> 28:02.963 If you're not spending any 28:03.063 --> 28:05.085 time responding to 28:05.145 --> 28:07.086 objections and teaching 28:07.106 --> 28:08.187 your staff how to do that, 28:08.387 --> 28:09.348 especially front desk, 28:11.052 --> 28:12.853 then shouldn't you have a 28:12.933 --> 28:14.233 lot of cancellations and no 28:14.293 --> 28:16.554 show and a poor utilization? 28:16.934 --> 28:18.554 Should you not be making any money? 28:18.574 --> 28:19.354 I mean, 28:19.895 --> 28:21.155 don't you deserve that for not 28:21.515 --> 28:22.555 doing what is needed? 28:23.256 --> 28:25.096 Now you can justify and say, 28:25.176 --> 28:26.176 I don't know how to do it. 28:26.536 --> 28:26.957 Okay. 28:27.937 --> 28:29.837 But come on, with the world, 28:31.498 --> 28:32.978 you can get taught anything. 28:32.998 --> 28:34.319 You can go on YouTube and 28:34.359 --> 28:35.959 get exactly everything you need. 28:35.979 --> 28:38.400 It's your job as the owner 28:39.614 --> 28:41.696 is to make it, to put it in place. 28:43.397 --> 28:43.977 That's, I mean. 28:44.858 --> 28:46.499 Here's a very visible answer, 28:46.599 --> 28:48.060 or here's a very visible 28:48.180 --> 28:49.341 example of what you just said. 28:50.222 --> 28:53.424 I think five to seven years ago, 28:53.604 --> 28:55.145 whenever you went to a website, 28:55.545 --> 28:56.206 when you were looking to 28:56.246 --> 28:58.167 hire a bookkeeper or a 28:58.307 --> 28:59.248 video editor or anything, 29:00.825 --> 29:03.409 they would bury the cost 29:03.469 --> 29:05.191 question in a click here, 29:05.311 --> 29:06.272 let's set up a call, 29:06.633 --> 29:07.854 get a personalized quote. 29:08.655 --> 29:10.578 That was five to seven years ago. 29:11.099 --> 29:12.240 And now one of the first 29:12.280 --> 29:14.063 thing you see across the 29:14.103 --> 29:15.685 header of websites is pricing. 29:16.792 --> 29:17.853 Because I think people, 29:17.953 --> 29:18.614 I think businesses 29:18.734 --> 29:19.775 understood what you're saying, 29:19.795 --> 29:20.896 which is that is the 29:20.956 --> 29:21.857 objection they're looking, 29:22.018 --> 29:23.259 that they bring out first. 29:23.860 --> 29:25.021 And as long as you give them 29:25.061 --> 29:28.504 a context or at least help 29:28.565 --> 29:32.328 them understand, get them closer, people, 29:32.489 --> 29:33.610 the fear is reduced. 29:33.830 --> 29:34.871 That is one thing that the 29:34.911 --> 29:35.892 bookkeeper did for me. 29:36.072 --> 29:36.853 They were very clear that 29:36.893 --> 29:37.434 here's our pricing. 29:38.720 --> 29:39.260 Take it or leave it, 29:39.681 --> 29:41.602 which probably does them some good, 29:41.642 --> 29:42.222 which is they're not 29:42.262 --> 29:43.383 booking one-on-one calls 29:43.443 --> 29:45.864 with their reps for people 29:45.904 --> 29:46.905 who are never going to buy 29:46.945 --> 29:48.606 their product in the first place. 29:48.966 --> 29:50.327 So then they have to, 29:50.607 --> 29:53.269 the owner of that company, first of all, 29:53.329 --> 29:54.310 has to make a conscious 29:54.350 --> 29:55.270 decision to do this. 29:56.151 --> 29:57.532 And that conscious decision 29:58.032 --> 29:59.013 comes from values. 29:59.773 --> 30:01.595 It comes from what that owner believes. 30:02.215 --> 30:03.356 We're the type of company 30:03.396 --> 30:04.657 that is in integrity. 30:04.897 --> 30:05.838 We're the type of company 30:05.858 --> 30:06.879 that is transparent. 30:06.939 --> 30:09.001 Like those standards, 30:09.081 --> 30:10.982 those values is what guides 30:11.383 --> 30:12.904 your thought process and behavior. 30:13.304 --> 30:16.567 So then the end solution becomes, hey, 30:16.647 --> 30:17.027 Jimmy, 30:17.147 --> 30:19.149 so are we going to put pricing on there? 30:19.169 --> 30:19.750 Well- 30:20.530 --> 30:21.970 Our value is transparency. 30:22.490 --> 30:23.871 So let's put pricing on there. 30:23.911 --> 30:24.971 Let's make sure we create 30:24.991 --> 30:26.611 the context of what 30:26.651 --> 30:28.352 separates us from other companies. 30:28.752 --> 30:29.812 And then you know what we're going to do? 30:30.372 --> 30:32.352 Let people choose because I 30:32.592 --> 30:35.173 don't want 60% of our calls 30:35.793 --> 30:37.553 not to turn into clients. 30:38.113 --> 30:39.694 I'd rather have 10% of our 30:39.734 --> 30:41.134 calls do that because I'm 30:41.214 --> 30:42.414 paying for people to be on 30:42.454 --> 30:43.694 these calls and I don't 30:43.734 --> 30:44.815 want to just a bunch of people. 30:45.015 --> 30:46.235 But guess what that also takes? 30:47.188 --> 30:48.689 It takes an abundance 30:48.749 --> 30:51.551 mindset because a scarcity mindset is, 30:52.431 --> 30:54.393 well, if I put what we really do, 30:55.093 --> 30:56.474 what if they don't come and 30:56.514 --> 30:57.955 now I don't have any patients? 30:58.956 --> 31:01.697 So you have to believe that 31:01.737 --> 31:02.958 there's plenty for everyone, 31:02.998 --> 31:03.839 especially in our field. 31:04.119 --> 31:05.660 I say this all the time. 31:05.960 --> 31:07.261 There's 343 million human 31:07.301 --> 31:08.562 bodies just in the US. 31:09.402 --> 31:10.923 There's plenty of bodies out there. 31:11.324 --> 31:12.124 What they don't know is they 31:12.144 --> 31:12.985 don't know who you are. 31:13.845 --> 31:14.886 They don't know the benefits 31:14.946 --> 31:16.147 that you could provide for them. 31:16.667 --> 31:17.948 They don't know where you are. 31:18.228 --> 31:19.509 They don't know how you operate. 31:19.529 --> 31:20.649 They don't know what you believe. 31:20.910 --> 31:22.451 They don't know what services you do. 31:22.471 --> 31:23.651 They don't even know what those mean. 31:24.132 --> 31:25.112 That's your job. 31:25.853 --> 31:27.333 As the owner, your job, 31:27.774 --> 31:29.675 not to bitch and complain and saying, 31:30.015 --> 31:31.156 well, they should know what we do. 31:32.409 --> 31:33.991 No, they shouldn't know what they do. 31:34.451 --> 31:36.033 And don't blame the APTA. 31:36.453 --> 31:37.774 These are associations. 31:38.315 --> 31:38.816 You know what? 31:39.276 --> 31:40.838 I stopped blaming the APTA a 31:40.878 --> 31:41.738 long time ago. 31:42.199 --> 31:43.460 They're doing the best they can. 31:43.500 --> 31:44.401 But what I'm not doing, 31:44.781 --> 31:45.742 expecting them to 31:46.263 --> 31:49.006 communicate clearly what I do. 31:49.266 --> 31:50.227 That's my job. 31:50.567 --> 31:50.767 Yeah. 31:51.448 --> 31:52.949 You can bitch and complain about it. 31:53.930 --> 31:54.471 Go for it. 31:55.111 --> 31:56.012 It ain't gonna change. 31:57.413 --> 31:58.414 Just take ownership. 31:58.934 --> 32:00.015 When you take ownership, 32:00.415 --> 32:01.416 building a business becomes 32:01.576 --> 32:03.618 so much easier when you just own it. 32:04.739 --> 32:05.700 If you keep blaming, 32:06.941 --> 32:08.502 you're never gonna really move forward. 32:09.082 --> 32:10.564 Blaming other just 32:10.644 --> 32:12.085 reinforces your position of 32:12.125 --> 32:12.886 you being right, 32:14.287 --> 32:15.207 even though the results 32:15.227 --> 32:16.288 you're getting are not right. 32:16.909 --> 32:17.790 So the results, 32:18.190 --> 32:19.271 here's what I want people to do. 32:20.646 --> 32:21.687 Look in the mirror and 32:21.767 --> 32:23.308 honestly say that the 32:23.368 --> 32:24.389 results you're getting, 32:24.670 --> 32:25.851 whatever those results may be, 32:26.171 --> 32:28.993 financial result, time, happiness, 32:29.094 --> 32:31.696 wellbeing, whatever you want, 32:32.276 --> 32:34.238 and ask yourself, mirror, 32:34.819 --> 32:36.540 am I getting the results that I want? 32:36.620 --> 32:38.142 And you have to honestly answer. 32:38.702 --> 32:40.404 If the answer is no, 32:41.084 --> 32:42.706 then if you don't change 32:43.366 --> 32:44.668 how you're doing things, 32:44.968 --> 32:46.409 how you're thinking about things, 32:47.050 --> 32:48.291 like really change them, 32:48.331 --> 32:49.332 not just want to change them, 32:49.953 --> 32:51.434 then don't expect any 32:51.514 --> 32:53.577 significant changes in the outcomes. 32:54.698 --> 32:55.679 Just period. 32:56.700 --> 32:58.041 And by looking at the 32:58.061 --> 32:58.802 businesses that are out 32:58.822 --> 32:59.643 there and the practices 32:59.663 --> 33:00.323 that are out there, 33:02.225 --> 33:03.627 most of them just aren't making it. 33:04.448 --> 33:05.729 Then they get scared and 33:05.769 --> 33:06.910 they sell it for pennies on 33:06.930 --> 33:08.131 the dollar to these bigger 33:08.171 --> 33:09.492 comes that certainly know 33:09.512 --> 33:10.292 what the heck they're doing. 33:10.833 --> 33:12.073 They're making a fortune off of yours. 33:12.294 --> 33:13.655 But you're also selling your dream. 33:14.215 --> 33:15.416 You're selling this thing 33:15.776 --> 33:16.717 that you want to do. 33:17.317 --> 33:18.098 And then you go into what, 33:18.138 --> 33:19.219 working for someone else? 33:19.239 --> 33:20.439 And then you're unhappy doing that? 33:20.459 --> 33:21.080 Uh-uh. 33:21.540 --> 33:22.801 That's not the solution. 33:23.502 --> 33:25.223 The solution is start being 33:25.263 --> 33:25.923 a professional. 33:25.943 --> 33:26.764 Start being a pro. 33:27.364 --> 33:28.425 Start taking this seriously. 33:28.465 --> 33:29.606 Look in the mirror and say, 33:29.686 --> 33:30.727 you don't know what you're doing. 33:31.795 --> 33:35.177 Start there and then say, but I can learn. 33:35.197 --> 33:37.979 That's what I did. 33:38.039 --> 33:39.420 I looked in the mirror, dude. 33:40.941 --> 33:41.722 Just one point. 33:41.982 --> 33:42.703 I looked in the mirror. 33:42.723 --> 33:43.963 This was, I don't know how many years ago, 33:44.003 --> 33:44.664 a long time ago. 33:45.585 --> 33:46.585 And this was right after my 33:46.645 --> 33:47.246 place burned down. 33:47.986 --> 33:48.787 And I shared that story 33:48.807 --> 33:49.647 about how my place burned 33:49.687 --> 33:50.908 down three years into it. 33:51.789 --> 33:53.290 But even before it burned down, 33:53.310 --> 33:53.910 I wasn't happy. 33:54.371 --> 33:55.631 And I looked in the mirror and I said, 33:55.651 --> 33:55.772 Jamie, 33:55.792 --> 33:57.052 you don't know what the F you're doing. 33:57.433 --> 33:58.193 And that was hard for me 33:58.213 --> 33:58.974 because my ego says, 34:00.247 --> 34:00.747 I'm smart. 34:01.187 --> 34:01.688 I'm good. 34:01.708 --> 34:02.488 People love me. 34:02.508 --> 34:03.529 I'm a hell of a therapist. 34:03.569 --> 34:04.269 Yada, yada, yada. 34:04.649 --> 34:04.889 I said, 34:04.909 --> 34:07.590 I don't know about this business stuff. 34:07.610 --> 34:08.531 I want to know about it. 34:09.151 --> 34:10.472 I want to think I know about it. 34:11.172 --> 34:12.053 I read the e-myth. 34:12.193 --> 34:13.213 I should know about working 34:13.573 --> 34:14.554 on your business, not in it. 34:15.654 --> 34:17.155 But I don't know how to do that. 34:17.595 --> 34:19.116 I don't know how to stay 34:19.156 --> 34:21.097 accountable to actually do it. 34:21.977 --> 34:23.179 And that's when things 34:23.319 --> 34:24.602 changed for me because I 34:24.622 --> 34:25.844 was honest with myself. 34:26.285 --> 34:27.407 I think people aren't honest 34:27.427 --> 34:28.128 with themselves. 34:28.569 --> 34:29.911 And when you're not honest with yourself, 34:29.971 --> 34:31.354 Jimmy, it's easy to blame others. 34:32.616 --> 34:33.337 At the end of the day, 34:33.417 --> 34:34.719 you need to feel right. 34:35.560 --> 34:36.620 And the way you feel right 34:37.360 --> 34:39.121 is by justifying your position, 34:39.481 --> 34:40.301 even if it's not getting 34:40.341 --> 34:41.061 you what you want. 34:41.321 --> 34:42.961 And that's how you blame other people. 34:43.521 --> 34:45.042 You know, like I told you, 34:45.082 --> 34:46.562 I've been going real deep 34:46.702 --> 34:47.702 for the last thing and I'm 34:47.742 --> 34:48.822 coming up with these things 34:48.882 --> 34:50.543 and it's making all the 34:50.583 --> 34:51.603 difference with people though. 34:51.943 --> 34:52.883 Because once you see it, 34:53.743 --> 34:54.543 you can change it. 34:54.803 --> 34:55.583 Here's a quote that might 34:55.683 --> 34:58.924 summarize or capitalize on 34:58.964 --> 34:59.684 what you just said, 35:00.324 --> 35:02.345 which is the results that 35:02.365 --> 35:03.945 you're seeking are hiding 35:03.965 --> 35:05.205 in the work that you're avoiding. 35:06.488 --> 35:08.949 Yeah. 35:09.749 --> 35:10.849 I might've said something, but I mean, 35:10.889 --> 35:11.870 someone smarter said that 35:11.890 --> 35:13.850 before me and I might've changed it. 35:13.890 --> 35:14.771 I think you put it on my 35:14.791 --> 35:15.711 Facebook post or something. 35:15.771 --> 35:16.171 I might've. 35:16.671 --> 35:16.871 Yeah. 35:16.911 --> 35:20.232 Because yeah, that was it because right. 35:20.312 --> 35:21.093 That's right. 35:21.133 --> 35:21.313 Yeah. 35:21.333 --> 35:22.493 Nobody cares about your 35:22.573 --> 35:24.094 excuses as much as you do. 35:24.434 --> 35:25.234 Yeah. 35:25.314 --> 35:26.494 Which is keep pointing. 35:26.534 --> 35:28.555 Like no one, it's not that no one, 35:28.635 --> 35:28.795 you know, 35:28.815 --> 35:29.575 cause some people would say like, 35:29.635 --> 35:30.716 no one cares, work harder. 35:30.836 --> 35:31.736 Like that's a great thing to 35:31.776 --> 35:32.917 put on a motivational poster, 35:32.957 --> 35:33.417 put on the wall. 35:34.017 --> 35:34.137 But, 35:35.252 --> 35:38.174 But working harder isn't what, Jamie, 35:38.274 --> 35:39.014 isn't what you're saying. 35:39.054 --> 35:41.836 You're saying the success 35:41.856 --> 35:43.277 you're seeking is hiding in 35:43.297 --> 35:44.398 the things that you're avoiding. 35:44.898 --> 35:46.139 So that's when I decided to, 35:46.159 --> 35:49.521 I can 2x myself if I hired an editor, 35:49.721 --> 35:50.041 and I did. 35:51.002 --> 35:52.142 And there are these things 35:52.202 --> 35:53.343 that I'm sweeping under the 35:53.403 --> 35:54.964 rug or just avoiding or 35:55.164 --> 35:56.425 trudging through and doing 35:56.445 --> 35:58.066 them that someone else could do better. 35:58.906 --> 35:59.186 Likely, 35:59.226 --> 36:00.247 I'm going to hire a bookkeeper and 36:00.267 --> 36:01.027 they're going to find me 36:01.088 --> 36:02.108 more money than I'm paying them. 36:02.128 --> 36:03.209 Probably. 36:03.229 --> 36:03.569 Probably. 36:04.388 --> 36:07.829 And what I love to do too, because I'm a, 36:09.310 --> 36:09.930 I don't know what I am, 36:09.970 --> 36:11.830 but I like to do best case, 36:11.950 --> 36:12.831 worst case scenarios. 36:13.331 --> 36:13.731 Okay, good. 36:13.791 --> 36:14.291 Yes. 36:14.331 --> 36:15.772 I'm one of those people. 36:15.872 --> 36:16.592 I always do that. 36:17.712 --> 36:21.313 And very few times I ever 36:22.674 --> 36:24.214 choose not to do something 36:24.254 --> 36:25.815 because of a worst case scenario. 36:26.255 --> 36:26.455 Right. 36:27.199 --> 36:28.679 Because the fact that you 36:28.719 --> 36:30.940 even do a best case, worst case scenario, 36:31.600 --> 36:33.401 and my mindset is, 36:33.421 --> 36:35.481 and what I teach my clients 36:35.621 --> 36:38.202 is the mindset of the only 36:38.302 --> 36:42.203 time you fail is when you 36:42.263 --> 36:43.303 don't learn from it. 36:44.123 --> 36:45.343 That's the only time you fail. 36:45.404 --> 36:45.884 Other than that, 36:45.924 --> 36:47.204 you're never going to learn 36:47.924 --> 36:48.664 from succeeding. 36:48.944 --> 36:50.285 You don't learn from succeeding. 36:50.305 --> 36:51.645 You only learn from failing. 36:51.945 --> 36:54.626 But you can fail and not learn. 36:55.006 --> 36:55.246 Correct. 36:55.731 --> 36:55.931 Right. 36:56.011 --> 36:56.512 I mean, 36:56.532 --> 36:58.714 you can fail and not learn from 36:58.734 --> 37:00.676 your mistakes and just 37:00.716 --> 37:02.157 continue to repeat them in 37:02.197 --> 37:02.738 different ways. 37:03.218 --> 37:04.339 But if you fail, 37:04.379 --> 37:05.641 so your worst case scenario is. 37:06.542 --> 37:07.823 And so if I was coaching you, Jimmy, 37:07.863 --> 37:08.764 I said, Jimmy, 37:08.804 --> 37:10.625 what's really I like use 37:10.646 --> 37:11.366 the word resistance. 37:11.406 --> 37:12.547 What's really the resistance? 37:12.587 --> 37:14.129 Like what what is it? 37:14.189 --> 37:15.570 And you can be honest with me right now. 37:16.251 --> 37:18.093 What was the resistance of 37:18.153 --> 37:19.154 hiring the bookkeeper? 37:20.844 --> 37:23.485 I had no idea if it was going to be $10, 37:23.485 --> 37:25.446 000 or, or a hundred dollars a month. 37:25.486 --> 37:26.526 I had no idea scale. 37:26.806 --> 37:30.387 And this was the unknown of money. 37:30.788 --> 37:31.068 Correct. 37:31.268 --> 37:32.968 Is it possible to have an 37:33.088 --> 37:34.289 idea to find out some 37:34.309 --> 37:35.509 information to at least get 37:35.929 --> 37:36.590 what that could be? 37:37.130 --> 37:37.290 Yes. 37:37.450 --> 37:38.650 So let's make that the first step. 37:39.070 --> 37:40.611 And I did like to do that. 37:40.931 --> 37:41.031 Right. 37:41.111 --> 37:41.351 Okay. 37:41.511 --> 37:43.252 So then now this thing that 37:43.272 --> 37:44.072 you're running around in 37:44.112 --> 37:44.992 your head for who knows how 37:45.012 --> 37:46.273 many weeks or months or 37:46.353 --> 37:47.954 years can actually be 37:48.014 --> 37:49.134 solved in about five minutes. 37:51.167 --> 37:55.568 Okay, what else is the deeper resistance? 37:56.429 --> 37:59.069 Is there any worry, fear around money? 38:00.150 --> 38:03.671 Like just in general, like why would I, 38:03.811 --> 38:04.931 and some people need prompting. 38:05.171 --> 38:05.811 You're probably one of those 38:05.851 --> 38:06.412 guys that would. 38:08.372 --> 38:10.253 Why would I pay somebody 38:10.433 --> 38:12.353 that I can do myself, 38:12.994 --> 38:14.134 even though I don't love it, 38:14.414 --> 38:15.494 but I don't mind it? 38:16.395 --> 38:17.215 Was that something that went 38:17.235 --> 38:17.655 through your head? 38:18.628 --> 38:19.209 Uh, yes. 38:19.589 --> 38:22.151 Mostly it was, um, I think if, 38:22.752 --> 38:24.613 if I could take a stab at 38:24.694 --> 38:25.314 mostly it was like, 38:25.434 --> 38:26.675 I didn't know what I didn't know. 38:26.996 --> 38:28.157 So I didn't know, uh, 38:29.534 --> 38:31.275 I was also insecure with how bad it was. 38:31.375 --> 38:32.715 Maybe my books are so bad. 38:32.936 --> 38:33.376 Oh my God. 38:33.416 --> 38:34.256 Like maybe my house is, 38:34.876 --> 38:35.657 I don't want to hire a house, 38:36.017 --> 38:36.777 someone to clean my house 38:36.837 --> 38:37.558 once a month because my, 38:37.738 --> 38:38.698 my place is so dirt. 38:38.758 --> 38:41.339 It's not, but like your resistance, 38:42.100 --> 38:43.720 let's go, let's go deep into this. 38:44.321 --> 38:45.561 You're cause this is really common. 38:45.941 --> 38:48.362 Your resistance was really reality. 38:48.842 --> 38:49.043 Yeah. 38:49.503 --> 38:49.703 Okay. 38:50.123 --> 38:51.644 This person would bring 38:51.704 --> 38:54.925 about a reality that you 38:55.165 --> 38:58.367 weren't ready to face. 38:59.369 --> 39:00.994 And what I mean by that is 39:01.595 --> 39:02.698 we get a lot of people that 39:02.738 --> 39:04.423 are resistant to financials. 39:05.846 --> 39:08.888 And I believe some of the reason, 39:08.928 --> 39:09.809 not all of the reason, 39:09.909 --> 39:12.811 is because the financials is a fricking, 39:13.771 --> 39:15.913 just right in your face of 39:16.033 --> 39:16.853 how you're doing. 39:17.794 --> 39:19.055 It's unemotional. 39:19.755 --> 39:21.076 It's flat out objective. 39:22.117 --> 39:24.919 And some of us, and I'm with you, Jimmy, 39:25.259 --> 39:26.900 when I did my books myself, which is, 39:27.400 --> 39:28.501 it's laughable that I did 39:28.541 --> 39:29.242 my books myself. 39:29.502 --> 39:31.703 I wasn't even, I was losing thousands. 39:34.618 --> 39:35.559 Part of it was I didn't want 39:35.579 --> 39:37.560 to pay someone, but if you go deeper, 39:38.180 --> 39:39.221 when I reflect back, 39:40.382 --> 39:43.263 I didn't want to see what I wasn't doing. 39:43.844 --> 39:45.044 I didn't want someone to 39:45.104 --> 39:47.226 tell me I wasn't good 39:47.686 --> 39:49.387 because I have a fragile 39:49.627 --> 39:53.969 ego and I can't handle that. 39:55.090 --> 39:57.892 So what happened was eventually, 39:57.912 --> 40:00.033 and I know this is happening for you, 40:00.053 --> 40:01.294 what I wanted was 40:02.987 --> 40:06.069 was greater than that fear or that worry, 40:06.390 --> 40:07.150 which was bullshit. 40:07.390 --> 40:08.491 The worry was bullshit. 40:08.911 --> 40:10.212 It was something I concocted 40:10.232 --> 40:12.995 in my own head because the person I hired, 40:13.015 --> 40:14.396 like the person that you hired, 40:15.016 --> 40:15.897 she was great. 40:16.437 --> 40:17.018 She helped me. 40:17.178 --> 40:19.279 She taught me P&L. 40:19.319 --> 40:20.880 She taught me what chart of accounts were. 40:21.081 --> 40:22.301 She taught me how to organize it. 40:22.642 --> 40:24.143 She taught me what a balance sheet was. 40:24.463 --> 40:25.564 I read about this a little bit, 40:25.604 --> 40:26.505 but I really didn't have a 40:26.565 --> 40:28.006 clue because now I had 40:28.066 --> 40:28.746 something that it was 40:28.806 --> 40:30.468 related to that was important to me. 40:31.088 --> 40:32.229 So all of a sudden I'm like, 40:33.783 --> 40:35.964 Look how much time I wasted 40:36.985 --> 40:39.446 on this whole story I had in my head. 40:40.507 --> 40:43.088 So as you begin, this is a skill, Jimmy, 40:43.128 --> 40:43.448 for you. 40:43.468 --> 40:45.129 Take the lesson. 40:45.489 --> 40:47.090 I'm going to tell you to do 40:47.130 --> 40:47.710 something right now. 40:48.431 --> 40:49.571 Not this second, but when we're done. 40:50.091 --> 40:53.553 I want you to debrief that 40:53.633 --> 40:55.254 situation that you just went through. 40:56.155 --> 40:57.235 And here's what I mean by debrief. 40:58.496 --> 41:00.497 Name it, hiring a bookkeeper. 41:01.986 --> 41:05.927 what went well what went 41:05.967 --> 41:09.548 well what went good second 41:11.328 --> 41:12.628 what did you have trouble 41:12.688 --> 41:17.089 with to be how did you 41:17.129 --> 41:22.570 handle it three what did 41:22.610 --> 41:26.171 you learn from it four 41:27.551 --> 41:29.712 knowing this what can you 41:29.772 --> 41:31.652 do moving forward 41:32.603 --> 41:34.064 that will help you in the 41:34.104 --> 41:36.045 future yeah I'm already 41:36.065 --> 41:36.926 thinking about these things 41:36.986 --> 41:40.508 yeah this is the most 41:40.688 --> 41:44.891 important tool concept we 41:44.931 --> 41:45.872 teach at practice freedom 41:45.892 --> 41:47.753 you we call it the mini 41:47.773 --> 41:49.795 debrief but it's a it's a 41:49.855 --> 41:51.516 reflection tool and if you 41:51.556 --> 41:53.677 look at psychology and you 41:53.717 --> 41:54.458 look at all the stuff 41:54.478 --> 41:55.458 that's out there written by 41:55.538 --> 41:56.979 all these very very smart 41:57.039 --> 41:58.240 people a whole lot smarter 41:58.280 --> 42:01.763 than I am they will have elements of 42:02.748 --> 42:05.491 people always look forward 42:07.412 --> 42:08.553 and they don't look 42:08.854 --> 42:11.476 backwards and the gold is 42:11.576 --> 42:13.037 looking and reflecting 42:13.198 --> 42:14.899 backwards and the problem 42:14.979 --> 42:16.320 is when you don't spend the 42:16.360 --> 42:17.261 time by the way this is 42:17.301 --> 42:18.462 also working on your 42:18.502 --> 42:19.503 business when you don't 42:19.583 --> 42:21.065 spend the time reflecting 42:22.213 --> 42:24.955 You will gloss over it in your memory. 42:25.596 --> 42:28.338 Your memory isn't about the facts. 42:29.059 --> 42:32.242 Your memory will put it into some nice, 42:32.482 --> 42:35.524 neat package that sounds good to you. 42:36.385 --> 42:38.547 But it isn't anywhere close 42:39.267 --> 42:40.789 to what actually happened. 42:41.604 --> 42:43.285 The only way to really do it 42:43.405 --> 42:44.646 is to reflect back. 42:45.226 --> 42:46.927 And you can reflect something like this. 42:47.368 --> 42:48.528 I would reflect sooner 42:48.588 --> 42:50.189 rather than later so you can remember. 42:50.870 --> 42:52.911 But you can also, for things like, 42:53.772 --> 42:55.673 you can reflect back things a while ago. 42:55.693 --> 42:58.194 Because the questions that 42:58.214 --> 42:59.635 you're asking yourself around, 43:00.135 --> 43:02.177 so we just call it did well do better. 43:02.217 --> 43:03.437 That's like a quick way of doing it. 43:03.818 --> 43:04.518 What went well? 43:04.598 --> 43:05.479 What could you do better? 43:05.839 --> 43:07.000 But I kind of added some 43:07.020 --> 43:07.800 other stuff into that. 43:09.281 --> 43:10.641 You'll learn so much that 43:10.661 --> 43:11.642 will give you then now 43:11.742 --> 43:13.682 confidence with your next 43:13.742 --> 43:15.483 hire or with the next thing 43:15.503 --> 43:16.223 that you fear. 43:16.263 --> 43:17.203 Because you could look back 43:17.223 --> 43:18.243 at this and say, you know what? 43:18.964 --> 43:20.044 I feared stuff before. 43:20.824 --> 43:21.644 But look at all these 43:21.684 --> 43:22.885 results that I feared. 43:23.445 --> 43:24.685 Look at what I learned from it. 43:25.165 --> 43:26.586 So the worst case scenario, 43:26.726 --> 43:28.406 and I've done this hundreds of times. 43:28.846 --> 43:30.167 I debrief almost everything. 43:31.207 --> 43:32.547 What I've learned is I've 43:32.627 --> 43:34.248 learned how to learn from 43:34.928 --> 43:38.409 my mistakes and failures to use them 43:39.246 --> 43:42.789 to help overcome my natural 43:42.849 --> 43:43.890 tendency not to move 43:43.930 --> 43:45.331 forward with something and 43:45.391 --> 43:46.372 just hold back. 43:49.675 --> 43:50.535 I had a conversation or 43:50.575 --> 43:51.336 interaction with somebody 43:51.376 --> 43:52.837 on Twitter where somebody 43:52.857 --> 43:53.738 made a statement and I 43:53.818 --> 43:54.819 chimed in that I agreed. 43:55.339 --> 43:57.881 And the statement was, I love failure. 43:58.102 --> 43:59.142 And I was like, I love failure too. 44:00.216 --> 44:00.916 And then the third guy 44:00.956 --> 44:01.716 chimed in and was like, 44:02.297 --> 44:03.357 that's the wrong way to look at it. 44:03.517 --> 44:04.277 I love success. 44:04.677 --> 44:05.797 I guess I'll be over here on 44:05.837 --> 44:07.198 my own on success island. 44:08.158 --> 44:11.419 And I was like, and I wrote, I'm great. 44:12.119 --> 44:12.859 I'm excited for you. 44:13.239 --> 44:15.300 He wanted this fight. 44:15.500 --> 44:15.960 And I was like, 44:16.360 --> 44:17.541 you're just looking at it differently. 44:18.381 --> 44:19.861 I get to success by failure, 44:20.541 --> 44:23.942 by probing and trying 44:23.982 --> 44:25.703 things that I'm like, I'm trying to reach, 44:25.943 --> 44:26.623 exceeding my grasp. 44:27.190 --> 44:29.012 respond to my next uh social 44:29.092 --> 44:30.053 post because it's coming 44:30.093 --> 44:31.033 out this week and it's 44:31.054 --> 44:32.415 going to be the title of 44:32.455 --> 44:33.376 the post is going to be I 44:33.416 --> 44:35.898 want you to fail and some 44:35.918 --> 44:36.839 people would say absolutely 44:36.899 --> 44:38.660 not but you and I i mean 44:38.680 --> 44:39.721 that's just my mindset was 44:39.741 --> 44:40.942 probably the same oh no 44:41.042 --> 44:43.845 failure no no avoid it and 44:43.865 --> 44:45.286 you're right there is a 44:45.666 --> 44:48.049 deeper with failure where 44:48.089 --> 44:50.090 are we learning failure from from school 44:50.996 --> 44:53.677 And school, they don't reward failure. 44:53.697 --> 44:55.218 So your entire life, 44:55.658 --> 44:57.179 especially in your formative years, 44:57.679 --> 44:58.580 is through school. 44:59.020 --> 45:00.441 And you're being compared to 45:00.521 --> 45:02.302 other people based on letter grades. 45:03.035 --> 45:03.335 Well, 45:03.776 --> 45:04.877 you're not being compared to other 45:04.897 --> 45:06.218 people in letter grades in your business. 45:06.979 --> 45:08.781 Nobody cares where you went to school. 45:08.921 --> 45:10.643 Nobody cares how smart you are. 45:10.663 --> 45:13.345 All that matters in your business is, 45:13.786 --> 45:15.468 is your business giving you 45:15.528 --> 45:16.469 the life that you want? 45:16.849 --> 45:18.591 Is your business satisfying you? 45:18.611 --> 45:19.311 Well, 45:19.432 --> 45:20.853 when none of us are learned how to 45:20.973 --> 45:21.614 think that way, 45:22.174 --> 45:24.575 And all we think about is working hard, 45:24.855 --> 45:25.875 which none of us have a 45:25.915 --> 45:26.775 problem doing that. 45:27.315 --> 45:28.036 Sacrificing, 45:28.076 --> 45:29.256 we don't have problems doing that. 45:29.696 --> 45:33.217 But we also strive for this perfectionism. 45:33.937 --> 45:35.097 We're high achievers. 45:35.618 --> 45:36.778 We like to compare with 45:36.918 --> 45:38.658 others because we want to beat everybody. 45:39.098 --> 45:40.839 You see, that's what gets us into trouble. 45:41.758 --> 45:43.581 That's what gets us in that, 45:43.621 --> 45:45.743 one of my mentors, 45:45.783 --> 45:47.165 Dan Sullivan calls the gap, 45:47.746 --> 45:51.771 this negative plate, this negative zone, 45:52.492 --> 45:53.033 if you will. 45:54.095 --> 45:54.876 That's what happens. 45:56.448 --> 45:58.129 Yeah, I heard someone else say, and again, 45:58.189 --> 45:59.070 you can tell I like quotes 45:59.330 --> 46:00.952 and I like stealing words of smart people, 46:01.232 --> 46:02.433 but I think that's how we learn, right? 46:03.193 --> 46:04.995 And they said, you know, 46:05.315 --> 46:06.276 modern or traditional 46:06.336 --> 46:09.118 school has it backwards by 180 degrees. 46:09.639 --> 46:10.159 In school, 46:10.179 --> 46:11.500 you're given a lesson and then 46:11.520 --> 46:12.100 you're tested. 46:12.421 --> 46:13.081 But in life, 46:13.482 --> 46:15.123 you're given the test and then 46:15.143 --> 46:15.863 you learn the lesson. 46:16.863 --> 46:17.723 So it is sort of this, 46:18.103 --> 46:20.224 it is in the life example, 46:20.404 --> 46:21.664 failure is the teacher. 46:21.924 --> 46:22.925 In the school example, 46:23.045 --> 46:24.725 failure is the thing to avoid. 46:25.105 --> 46:26.006 And I think when you spend 46:26.046 --> 46:27.506 an entire lifetime avoiding failure, 46:27.886 --> 46:28.746 you would logically say 46:28.766 --> 46:29.647 this is the bad thing. 46:30.187 --> 46:32.267 Except we would never do this with kids. 46:32.568 --> 46:33.408 The first time you try to 46:33.448 --> 46:34.988 walk and it doesn't work, what do you do? 46:35.368 --> 46:36.109 You're not any good at it? 46:36.249 --> 46:37.149 We're not going to learn. 46:37.169 --> 46:37.229 No. 46:37.893 --> 46:40.155 You promote failure there and learning. 46:40.915 --> 46:41.896 There's that third option, too, 46:41.916 --> 46:43.057 which is failure is one thing. 46:43.077 --> 46:43.778 Success is another. 46:43.818 --> 46:45.279 You don't learn well from success. 46:45.719 --> 46:46.740 But can I learn from the 46:46.840 --> 46:49.222 failure to then promote future successes? 46:50.623 --> 46:50.843 Yeah. 46:51.163 --> 46:51.383 I mean, 46:51.403 --> 46:53.045 you can say that it's all this 46:53.105 --> 46:54.145 stuff in our head. 46:54.886 --> 46:55.627 And then we're like, yeah, 46:55.647 --> 46:56.867 but I just need to get more patience. 46:56.907 --> 46:58.088 I just need to get more patience. 46:58.989 --> 47:00.090 And you say the same thing 47:00.951 --> 47:02.592 month after month, year after year. 47:03.809 --> 47:04.650 At some point, 47:04.770 --> 47:06.412 and some people don't get to this place, 47:06.952 --> 47:07.813 at some point, 47:08.314 --> 47:09.795 you have to look in the mirror and say, 47:10.256 --> 47:12.057 perhaps I'm looking at this 47:12.258 --> 47:13.038 the wrong way. 47:13.579 --> 47:17.183 Perhaps the problem isn't 47:17.363 --> 47:19.585 getting patients or 47:19.645 --> 47:21.847 referrals or cancellations 47:22.508 --> 47:23.469 or even hiring. 47:24.551 --> 47:27.092 The problem must be how I'm 47:27.152 --> 47:27.832 approaching it. 47:28.533 --> 47:29.933 Because although I like to 47:30.013 --> 47:31.514 say everyone has it, 47:31.534 --> 47:32.314 because we love saying 47:32.354 --> 47:33.695 words like they and everyone. 47:33.835 --> 47:34.355 Who said that? 47:34.675 --> 47:35.295 They say that. 47:35.815 --> 47:36.996 Yeah, they talk a lot. 47:37.576 --> 47:38.697 But the real problem, 47:38.737 --> 47:39.657 and this is something that 47:39.757 --> 47:41.738 I continue to explore myself. 47:41.778 --> 47:43.658 So I am a guinea pig for 47:43.819 --> 47:44.879 everybody I talk to and 47:44.899 --> 47:45.659 everybody I work with. 47:45.959 --> 47:47.340 I'm just not learning. 47:47.680 --> 47:49.861 I'm doing this myself is I'm 47:49.961 --> 47:52.382 exploring this idea of, 47:56.946 --> 48:00.970 Where is my thinking not 48:01.210 --> 48:02.791 serving me in what I want? 48:03.712 --> 48:05.514 So I need to be clear in what I want, 48:06.395 --> 48:07.315 and then I need to be 48:07.456 --> 48:13.241 really intentional on what I'm doing. 48:14.801 --> 48:15.601 And, and that's, 48:15.841 --> 48:18.062 it's just so enlightening to, to, 48:18.242 --> 48:19.442 to realize like, you know, 48:19.482 --> 48:20.283 something happened today. 48:20.303 --> 48:21.743 You know, I'll be honest, 48:21.783 --> 48:22.483 something happened today. 48:22.543 --> 48:25.404 I had a, I had a, a client reach out and, 48:25.544 --> 48:26.584 and say, hey, Jamie, you know, 48:26.604 --> 48:27.244 something's going on in my 48:27.264 --> 48:29.165 personal life and, you know, 48:29.625 --> 48:31.185 may have to put some coaching on. 48:31.426 --> 48:33.246 And I've known this woman for a long time. 48:33.286 --> 48:34.926 And the first thing I did is 48:34.966 --> 48:36.007 I got the pit in my stomach 48:36.047 --> 48:36.827 and I got the angst. 48:38.107 --> 48:38.347 Right. 48:38.367 --> 48:41.128 And I went, Jamie, 48:42.088 --> 48:43.729 this has happened a thousand times. 48:43.929 --> 48:44.009 Yeah. 48:44.738 --> 48:45.518 Don't react. 48:46.518 --> 48:47.078 Deep breath. 48:47.319 --> 48:48.079 The first thing I did, 48:49.159 --> 48:49.959 we have this thing called 48:50.019 --> 48:51.399 confidence toolbox, 48:51.439 --> 48:52.760 which is things that we 48:52.820 --> 48:54.080 have that give us confidence. 48:55.720 --> 48:57.001 I changed, went to the gym, 48:57.561 --> 48:59.241 worked out for 45 minutes, came back. 48:59.741 --> 49:01.261 My energy level was up here. 49:02.482 --> 49:04.162 I then wrote her an email 49:04.242 --> 49:10.603 back in a very present, connected moment, 49:10.623 --> 49:11.804 because this is all about her, 49:12.264 --> 49:12.804 not about me. 49:14.369 --> 49:16.310 And I feel so much better about it. 49:16.630 --> 49:18.591 No matter what happens, you know, 49:18.671 --> 49:19.531 I'm here for her. 49:19.551 --> 49:21.292 That's what we operate on. 49:22.132 --> 49:24.393 And that's that. 49:25.053 --> 49:26.214 You know how many times I've 49:26.254 --> 49:27.995 reacted when somebody quits 49:28.335 --> 49:30.155 or a patient didn't show or 49:30.255 --> 49:31.736 this happened or that happened. 49:32.136 --> 49:34.757 And I fricking said stuff and did stuff. 49:35.217 --> 49:35.658 Me jerk. 49:36.378 --> 49:37.819 That caused me more problems 49:37.839 --> 49:38.519 than the thing itself. 49:39.212 --> 49:39.392 Sure. 49:39.994 --> 49:40.475 Well, 49:40.695 --> 49:41.677 I liked the thing you were talking 49:41.697 --> 49:42.599 about a second ago before 49:42.619 --> 49:43.461 you mentioned that example, 49:43.501 --> 49:44.443 which is sometimes you have 49:44.463 --> 49:45.244 to look in yourself. 49:45.645 --> 49:47.168 And I feel like a very good... 49:47.972 --> 49:49.793 pop culture reference with 49:49.833 --> 49:51.594 that is Taylor Swift 49:51.634 --> 49:53.795 released a song called it's me. 49:53.915 --> 49:54.715 Hi, I'm the problem. 49:54.735 --> 49:55.076 It's me. 49:55.656 --> 49:56.476 And then she went on just to 49:56.496 --> 49:58.797 have like a four billion, $4,400 billion. 49:59.218 --> 49:59.378 She's, 49:59.918 --> 50:01.579 she's got the GDP of several large 50:01.639 --> 50:02.899 countries on this one. 50:03.039 --> 50:05.020 She certainly does. 50:06.401 --> 50:07.462 You know, Taylor Swift, 50:07.542 --> 50:08.502 I'm not going to judge you. 50:08.602 --> 50:09.483 I'm not here to judge you. 50:09.983 --> 50:10.783 I would actually judge 50:10.803 --> 50:11.964 someone who at this point, 50:12.084 --> 50:13.044 how have you avoided 50:13.104 --> 50:14.125 knowing who Taylor Swift is? 50:15.270 --> 50:17.351 Like, like how have you done it? 50:17.931 --> 50:19.651 Um, but I think that example, right? 50:19.691 --> 50:21.452 That meme, that gif is kind of funny. 50:21.472 --> 50:22.432 Like, hi, it's me. 50:22.492 --> 50:23.792 I'm the problem is me is how 50:23.812 --> 50:25.433 many situations in life 50:25.493 --> 50:27.814 where you've at least been 50:27.854 --> 50:30.274 a part of the problem or by recognizing, 50:30.314 --> 50:31.315 Hey, I'm part of this problem. 50:31.515 --> 50:32.415 I can now be a part of the 50:32.455 --> 50:33.995 solution without that. 50:34.115 --> 50:34.295 I mean, 50:34.335 --> 50:35.776 the 12 step program is based on 50:35.816 --> 50:37.156 that without admitting there's a problem. 50:37.176 --> 50:39.757 You can't get to a solution and look, 50:41.056 --> 50:42.818 I've not found a situation 50:42.858 --> 50:43.519 in my life when I've 50:43.579 --> 50:44.880 recognized I'm part of the problem, 50:44.940 --> 50:46.862 or at least I could be more 50:46.882 --> 50:47.863 a part of the solution. 50:48.364 --> 50:49.305 I've never had a situation 50:49.325 --> 50:50.306 where that didn't help me 50:50.506 --> 50:51.467 in some small way. 50:51.748 --> 50:52.588 And here's the thing. 50:53.149 --> 50:54.471 We feel we're alone. 50:55.371 --> 50:56.513 And for many of us, we were. 50:56.613 --> 50:58.935 I felt I was alone when I was in business. 50:59.761 --> 51:01.042 Because your colleagues 51:01.082 --> 51:02.463 don't talk to you and 51:02.483 --> 51:03.704 everyone says you're doing great. 51:03.764 --> 51:04.365 So then you're like 51:04.385 --> 51:05.226 comparing yourself and like, 51:05.346 --> 51:06.507 am I the only one not making it? 51:06.527 --> 51:07.127 Right. 51:07.287 --> 51:08.649 But the reality is you don't 51:08.729 --> 51:09.689 have to do this alone. 51:09.730 --> 51:11.311 And it's not cheating, Jimmy. 51:11.331 --> 51:13.393 It's not cheating doing with 51:13.433 --> 51:14.554 someone else as you were 51:14.594 --> 51:16.655 taught in school that that's, you know, 51:16.775 --> 51:18.457 cheating if you're collaborating. 51:18.997 --> 51:19.218 Yeah. 51:19.618 --> 51:22.520 It's hard to do business and 51:22.600 --> 51:24.262 doing it alone is even harder. 51:25.461 --> 51:26.502 That's why I coach. 51:27.162 --> 51:28.383 That's why I have a coach, 51:29.104 --> 51:31.325 is because it's hard to do this alone. 51:31.766 --> 51:33.507 I want someone to think ideas through. 51:33.907 --> 51:35.248 I wanna have a thinking partner. 51:35.508 --> 51:36.249 I want someone that's 51:36.309 --> 51:38.010 protecting me from me. 51:38.030 --> 51:39.791 I want someone to help me 51:39.851 --> 51:42.713 avoid the big things that happen. 51:43.254 --> 51:44.895 I want someone that I can 51:45.075 --> 51:47.817 learn how they think about a problem, 51:48.177 --> 51:49.398 not just feed me a bunch of 51:49.558 --> 51:51.640 answers to make me codependent on them. 51:52.799 --> 51:54.760 that's why people have 51:54.880 --> 51:58.201 coaches and whether it's 51:58.321 --> 51:59.781 you know you know I know 51:59.821 --> 52:00.702 some people have you know 52:00.762 --> 52:01.922 look explore like peer 52:01.982 --> 52:04.243 groups or masterminds hey 52:04.703 --> 52:06.464 that's not coaching that's 52:06.524 --> 52:07.984 its own thing of 52:08.064 --> 52:09.345 collaboration and running 52:09.465 --> 52:11.485 ideas and connecting it's 52:11.766 --> 52:13.186 all good the problem is 52:13.526 --> 52:14.386 that's a very small 52:14.426 --> 52:15.927 percentage of people right 52:16.909 --> 52:18.450 very small percentage of people. 52:19.210 --> 52:20.270 And that's the problem. 52:20.851 --> 52:23.272 If we can learn how to 52:23.732 --> 52:24.632 address the stuff that 52:24.672 --> 52:25.392 we're talking about today, 52:25.412 --> 52:26.813 this is like some deep stuff. 52:27.713 --> 52:28.914 There's plenty of people out 52:28.974 --> 52:29.974 there that need our help. 52:30.614 --> 52:31.355 And the only reason they're 52:31.375 --> 52:32.615 not getting that help is 52:32.675 --> 52:36.197 because you refuse to help you, period. 52:37.097 --> 52:41.479 If you just take ownership to help you, 52:42.239 --> 52:43.960 you're gonna help so many people 52:45.262 --> 52:46.503 And yes, 52:46.543 --> 52:48.045 you're going to make a lot of 52:48.085 --> 52:49.446 money doing it and you're 52:49.466 --> 52:50.367 going to have a great life 52:50.627 --> 52:51.688 and you're going to have an 52:51.928 --> 52:54.751 unbelievable impact in your community. 52:54.991 --> 52:56.333 That all goes with it. 52:56.833 --> 52:58.194 Because what you're providing is valuable. 53:00.116 --> 53:03.019 What we provide is tremendously valuable. 53:03.239 --> 53:04.520 But what I'm tired of, 53:04.560 --> 53:06.282 and I don't jump into this anymore, 53:06.923 --> 53:07.904 I'm just tired of just 53:07.964 --> 53:10.106 hearing people just complain about 53:11.522 --> 53:12.663 We're better than those. 53:12.923 --> 53:14.024 Do you realize we got all 53:14.304 --> 53:16.285 into this whole doctorate 53:16.325 --> 53:17.906 and course because we were 53:17.926 --> 53:19.887 comparing ourselves to other fields, 53:21.388 --> 53:21.688 right? 53:21.968 --> 53:24.190 We get into this because we're comparing. 53:24.490 --> 53:25.190 And now look, 53:26.311 --> 53:28.112 we're all in debt because we 53:28.132 --> 53:29.413 have all this higher education. 53:29.473 --> 53:30.694 So all the schools just said, hey, 53:30.734 --> 53:31.894 we'll just charge you more money. 53:32.635 --> 53:32.835 What? 53:33.235 --> 53:34.196 You think the money we were 53:34.216 --> 53:35.096 going to make coming out of 53:35.136 --> 53:36.637 school is magically going 53:36.657 --> 53:38.458 to be better because of third parties? 53:38.518 --> 53:39.399 They don't care. 53:40.310 --> 53:42.952 Like we created the problem we're in. 53:44.113 --> 53:44.814 So you know what? 53:45.274 --> 53:45.595 Own it. 53:46.015 --> 53:46.275 Say it. 53:46.856 --> 53:47.236 I own it. 53:47.256 --> 53:49.918 And let's start doing something about it. 53:50.179 --> 53:51.760 But that starts with you. 53:52.320 --> 53:53.421 Don't waste your time 53:53.481 --> 53:54.682 getting into these groups 53:54.943 --> 53:56.364 to try to change the world. 53:56.704 --> 53:59.347 Jeff Bezos said the most 53:59.407 --> 54:00.528 important thing you need to 54:00.588 --> 54:01.889 know is you need to be 54:01.989 --> 54:03.450 honest about the way the world is. 54:04.901 --> 54:05.661 And right now, 54:05.941 --> 54:07.082 here's the way the world is. 54:07.822 --> 54:09.382 Insurance companies want to 54:09.462 --> 54:12.323 cut what your value is and 54:12.363 --> 54:14.084 want to delay payments, period. 54:15.544 --> 54:17.225 Medicare is going to make it 54:17.265 --> 54:18.785 more and more difficult, period. 54:19.406 --> 54:21.726 People do not know what you do, period. 54:22.507 --> 54:23.087 You can change that. 54:24.116 --> 54:26.016 And let's start fixing it. 54:26.096 --> 54:27.617 You can't fix the insurance companies, 54:28.117 --> 54:29.077 but you can add in 54:29.737 --> 54:31.398 alternative payment methods. 54:31.578 --> 54:32.478 You can learn how to sell 54:32.518 --> 54:33.538 cash-based services. 54:33.978 --> 54:35.659 You can dial in and 54:35.719 --> 54:37.119 streamline your services 54:37.639 --> 54:39.239 and reduce your overhead. 54:39.479 --> 54:40.680 There's things you can do. 54:40.700 --> 54:42.980 And the people that we have worked with, 54:43.720 --> 54:44.841 they're making a lot of 54:44.941 --> 54:46.041 money doing these things. 54:46.341 --> 54:48.201 So it's not like you can't make money. 54:48.641 --> 54:49.642 You can make money. 54:50.442 --> 54:51.162 By providing value. 54:51.869 --> 54:52.869 You can't do it the way 54:52.949 --> 54:53.670 you're doing it now. 54:54.030 --> 54:54.330 Correct. 54:54.650 --> 54:55.570 So we're doing a different 54:55.610 --> 54:56.190 way of doing it. 54:56.670 --> 54:57.751 We did an episode or doing 54:57.771 --> 54:59.711 an episode recently where we wanted to, 54:59.731 --> 55:00.191 I wanted, 55:00.211 --> 55:01.892 I wanted a definitive answer from, 55:02.032 --> 55:02.572 from people. 55:02.612 --> 55:03.592 And I'll ask you this question. 55:04.293 --> 55:04.533 Sure. 55:06.353 --> 55:08.474 If you had a 22 or 23 year 55:08.514 --> 55:09.194 old in front of you and 55:09.214 --> 55:10.134 they asked you the question, 55:11.134 --> 55:12.135 is it worth it to become a 55:12.175 --> 55:13.055 physical therapist? 55:13.655 --> 55:14.515 How would you answer it? 55:15.036 --> 55:16.396 And it could be a yes or a no. 55:16.436 --> 55:17.496 And then a qualifier. 55:18.957 --> 55:19.797 What would you say to them? 55:20.488 --> 55:22.109 well the qualifier first 55:22.329 --> 55:24.049 would be if you're really 55:24.169 --> 55:26.570 passionate about it then 55:26.610 --> 55:27.770 the answer is absolutely 55:27.990 --> 55:28.910 and I've had people ask me 55:28.930 --> 55:29.830 people ask me all the time 55:29.910 --> 55:31.991 because they know I said 55:33.251 --> 55:36.092 but if you're focusing on 55:36.472 --> 55:38.893 really making a living and 55:39.253 --> 55:42.814 and um you would have to 55:42.854 --> 55:43.594 really question that 55:44.278 --> 55:45.459 Because the amount of money 55:45.519 --> 55:47.440 you're going to pay for the 55:47.480 --> 55:50.561 return on investment is very difficult. 55:51.181 --> 55:52.282 If you're going to say, 55:52.482 --> 55:53.823 I'm going to become a physical therapist, 55:53.843 --> 55:55.343 go get a job working for someone else, 55:55.563 --> 55:57.064 and show up and be a 55:57.144 --> 55:59.525 clinician who does this, 56:00.246 --> 56:01.686 and I'm holding my hand on a podcast, 56:01.706 --> 56:04.768 but if you are doing the minimum effort, 56:05.308 --> 56:06.068 are you shocked you're 56:06.088 --> 56:07.249 getting paid the minimum amount? 56:07.856 --> 56:09.779 viable salary you shouldn't 56:09.799 --> 56:11.461 be shocked can you provide 56:11.521 --> 56:12.502 more if the answer is yes 56:12.862 --> 56:13.583 my question would be why 56:13.623 --> 56:14.965 aren't you why aren't you 56:15.085 --> 56:16.427 showing someone you know I 56:16.467 --> 56:17.188 talked with a client every 56:17.208 --> 56:18.009 day it was like we have a 56:18.470 --> 56:19.170 their company within 56:19.230 --> 56:20.312 physical therapy a big one 56:21.693 --> 56:22.874 We provide a really great... 56:23.215 --> 56:24.476 They're a continuing education company. 56:24.836 --> 56:26.358 We provide great continuing education. 56:26.538 --> 56:27.378 The thing that we do, 56:27.419 --> 56:28.540 the thing that we teach works. 56:28.720 --> 56:29.480 It helps people. 56:29.641 --> 56:31.022 You get certified, it helps people. 56:31.663 --> 56:32.003 I said, 56:32.123 --> 56:35.106 how often are you showing people that? 56:35.366 --> 56:36.787 And they said, all the time, every day. 56:36.908 --> 56:38.409 And then I asked this next question, Jamie, 56:39.090 --> 56:40.091 can you show me that now? 56:41.112 --> 56:42.273 Show me on your website how 56:42.333 --> 56:43.994 you will help me become a 56:44.034 --> 56:45.476 better version of me so I 56:45.516 --> 56:46.557 can help more people 56:47.304 --> 56:47.704 doing that. 56:48.305 --> 56:49.065 And their website just 56:49.105 --> 56:50.206 talked about them and their 56:50.246 --> 56:51.046 history and their 56:51.086 --> 56:52.127 background and why they do 56:52.147 --> 56:53.188 what they do as a company. 56:53.528 --> 56:54.829 And I said, your website's about you. 56:54.949 --> 56:55.669 I need it to be about the 56:55.689 --> 56:56.370 people you serve. 56:56.750 --> 56:57.771 When you change that, 56:58.051 --> 56:59.092 we can change everything else. 56:59.152 --> 57:00.192 The videos, the media, 57:00.532 --> 57:02.033 that will be an extension because, 57:02.053 --> 57:04.235 and here's the nice little quote I use, 57:04.295 --> 57:05.356 we are not in tell business. 57:05.596 --> 57:06.937 We are in show business. 57:06.997 --> 57:08.037 Tell business is not a business. 57:08.357 --> 57:08.918 It ain't a business. 57:10.148 --> 57:11.949 We avoid telling people. 57:12.229 --> 57:12.749 I mean, 57:13.069 --> 57:14.310 you're more adept at this than I am, 57:14.350 --> 57:16.871 but we do some light 57:16.991 --> 57:18.192 training around websites. 57:18.252 --> 57:19.472 I'm not a website developer, 57:19.833 --> 57:21.293 but I'm a communicator. 57:21.773 --> 57:23.134 And you're absolutely right. 57:23.494 --> 57:24.775 When you look at a website, 57:24.835 --> 57:26.296 if you're not speaking to 57:26.356 --> 57:29.197 the person that you are trying to attract, 57:29.577 --> 57:31.138 then you're just basically telling them, 57:31.598 --> 57:32.899 it really isn't about you. 57:32.979 --> 57:34.099 It's all about me. 57:34.399 --> 57:35.180 So let's do this. 57:35.780 --> 57:36.821 my name is jamie schreier 57:36.861 --> 57:37.561 I'm going to give you my 57:37.601 --> 57:38.221 whole history and 57:38.262 --> 57:39.062 everything about me blah 57:39.082 --> 57:40.283 blah blah and all they're 57:40.423 --> 57:42.944 asking is can this person 57:43.364 --> 57:45.446 help me with my problem yes 57:45.526 --> 57:47.347 or no and if it's not a yes 57:47.387 --> 57:48.748 in two seconds I'm moving 57:48.908 --> 57:52.129 on so make it easy for 57:52.170 --> 57:54.951 people to say yes can they 57:55.151 --> 57:57.332 resonate with you and if 57:57.373 --> 57:59.294 they say no that's okay 57:59.734 --> 58:03.256 we're so afraid of no yeah right like 58:04.366 --> 58:05.687 Let's not be afraid of no. 58:06.587 --> 58:07.067 Lean into it. 58:07.107 --> 58:07.988 No just saves you time. 58:08.508 --> 58:08.968 I like that. 58:09.209 --> 58:09.909 All right. 58:09.949 --> 58:11.650 We do a parting shot with every episode. 58:11.670 --> 58:12.610 You ready for your parting shot? 58:13.331 --> 58:13.751 Yeah, sure. 58:28.612 --> 58:29.452 Parting Shot is brought to 58:29.472 --> 58:30.373 you by our friends from the 58:30.413 --> 58:32.453 Academy of Orthopedic Physical Therapy. 58:32.493 --> 58:35.134 Find them online at orthopt.org. 58:35.674 --> 58:36.695 They're a profession leading 58:36.815 --> 58:37.655 current concepts of 58:37.715 --> 58:39.576 orthopedic physical therapy, 58:39.616 --> 58:40.356 taking you from where you 58:40.496 --> 58:41.696 are in your orthopedic life 58:41.896 --> 58:42.697 to where you want to be. 58:42.717 --> 58:44.617 Maybe you want to take that OCS exam. 58:44.997 --> 58:46.338 This is a great guide that 58:46.358 --> 58:47.198 will help you get to that. 58:47.498 --> 58:48.098 At least they're not going 58:48.118 --> 58:48.959 to take the test for you, 58:49.339 --> 58:50.119 but it'll get you to the 58:50.219 --> 58:52.680 test day feeling confident and competent. 58:53.460 --> 58:56.102 Again, orthopt.org. 58:56.162 --> 58:56.823 All right, Jamie, 58:57.103 --> 58:58.945 how would you wrap this up? 58:59.065 --> 59:00.486 Or what's the sentiment 59:00.506 --> 59:01.086 you'd want to leave with 59:01.106 --> 59:02.047 people with their party shop? 59:04.069 --> 59:04.769 Yeah, good question. 59:04.789 --> 59:05.950 We've talked about a lot of things, 59:05.990 --> 59:09.233 but I think it all stems to, look, 59:09.673 --> 59:11.835 all of us deserve to be successful. 59:12.556 --> 59:14.837 All of us deserve to be happy. 59:15.738 --> 59:17.259 All of us deserve to... 59:18.735 --> 59:21.076 fulfill this dream and this 59:21.216 --> 59:22.536 ideal of helping others. 59:23.416 --> 59:25.477 All of that happens when you 59:25.517 --> 59:28.217 look inward to yourself and 59:28.237 --> 59:29.818 you ask the tough questions. 59:30.578 --> 59:32.638 Am I achieving those now? 59:33.158 --> 59:34.319 And only you can answer that. 59:34.359 --> 59:35.839 You don't have to tell anyone else this. 59:36.539 --> 59:38.380 And if the answer is no, 59:39.240 --> 59:41.100 what would I have to do to 59:41.140 --> 59:44.221 begin moving forward to 59:44.301 --> 59:45.361 achieving those things? 59:45.682 --> 59:47.382 What would I have to become 59:48.564 --> 59:50.645 Who is the person I would have to be? 59:51.705 --> 59:54.706 Am I putting the amount of 59:55.046 --> 59:58.507 effort into growing myself 59:58.567 --> 01:00:00.608 to become a better leader, 01:00:00.648 --> 01:00:01.988 a better business owner and 01:00:02.028 --> 01:00:02.568 what have you? 01:00:03.309 --> 01:00:04.449 That's what we're talking about. 01:00:04.549 --> 01:00:05.589 Because if you are, 01:00:05.609 --> 01:00:07.390 there's lots of resources. 01:00:07.690 --> 01:00:08.510 Practice Freedom U, 01:00:08.550 --> 01:00:09.471 that's what we're built on. 01:00:09.911 --> 01:00:11.571 We're built on helping people do that. 01:00:11.811 --> 01:00:12.632 And there's other companies 01:00:12.692 --> 01:00:13.452 out there as well. 01:00:14.232 --> 01:00:16.253 But if you stay focused 01:00:17.768 --> 01:00:19.349 If you stay into the same 01:00:19.409 --> 01:00:20.550 way of looking at things 01:00:20.910 --> 01:00:22.371 and same way of justifying 01:00:22.451 --> 01:00:24.153 things and the same way of 01:00:24.213 --> 01:00:26.274 making you feel like like 01:00:26.815 --> 01:00:29.056 everything else is the problem, not me. 01:00:29.677 --> 01:00:30.858 You're not going to get what 01:00:30.918 --> 01:00:33.760 you want and you absolutely deserve. 01:00:34.220 --> 01:00:35.601 And the problem with that is 01:00:35.621 --> 01:00:36.722 and this is where I have a problem. 01:00:36.882 --> 01:00:38.243 You can choose not to do that, 01:00:38.783 --> 01:00:40.004 but it's going to affect your staff. 01:00:40.945 --> 01:00:42.246 It's going to affect your patients. 01:00:42.626 --> 01:00:43.807 It's going to affect your community. 01:00:43.907 --> 01:00:44.608 It's going to affect the 01:00:44.668 --> 01:00:46.009 people that you actually 01:00:46.409 --> 01:00:47.310 love and care about, 01:00:47.610 --> 01:00:48.811 let alone it's going to 01:00:48.831 --> 01:00:50.332 affect your family because 01:00:50.352 --> 01:00:51.133 you're not going to be home 01:00:51.153 --> 01:00:51.713 and you're not going to be 01:00:51.753 --> 01:00:52.774 pleasant to be around 01:00:53.094 --> 01:00:54.415 because business is stressful, 01:00:54.656 --> 01:00:56.757 especially when you do it incorrectly. 01:00:57.198 --> 01:00:58.278 So that's what we really 01:00:58.359 --> 01:00:59.079 talked about here. 01:00:59.640 --> 01:01:01.281 If you want help, if you need help, 01:01:01.921 --> 01:01:02.481 Reach out, 01:01:02.881 --> 01:01:04.662 start off by taking the practice quiz. 01:01:04.682 --> 01:01:06.162 I'm sure Jimmy will have that on there. 01:01:06.443 --> 01:01:08.083 The practice quiz helps you 01:01:08.123 --> 01:01:09.764 start to identify where you 01:01:09.864 --> 01:01:10.664 are in your business. 01:01:11.124 --> 01:01:12.104 There's different problems 01:01:12.124 --> 01:01:13.465 for different areas of your business, 01:01:13.505 --> 01:01:14.765 which means different solutions. 01:01:15.145 --> 01:01:16.226 And it lets you know whether 01:01:16.246 --> 01:01:17.366 you're a committed clinician, 01:01:17.786 --> 01:01:18.706 overwhelmed operator, 01:01:18.786 --> 01:01:19.807 evolving entrepreneur. 01:01:20.207 --> 01:01:21.267 Once you take the quiz, 01:01:21.307 --> 01:01:23.588 it'll give you tips and 01:01:23.668 --> 01:01:25.349 ideas and advice of what to do. 01:01:25.369 --> 01:01:27.789 And then you can set up a 01:01:27.889 --> 01:01:29.090 free quiz review. 01:01:29.930 --> 01:01:31.111 that we can talk through it 01:01:31.252 --> 01:01:33.654 and see what some next steps are for you. 01:01:34.375 --> 01:01:35.616 Love it. 01:01:35.797 --> 01:01:37.018 Jamie, thank you for the time. 01:01:37.038 --> 01:01:39.340 It was very much a therapy 01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:40.121 session for Jimmy. 01:01:40.282 --> 01:01:41.923 But look, progress. 01:01:42.744 --> 01:01:43.705 I'm doing the things. 01:01:43.765 --> 01:01:44.326 Progress, not perfection. 01:01:44.826 --> 01:01:45.888 Progress, not perfection. 01:01:45.908 --> 01:01:46.408 All right. 01:01:46.428 --> 01:01:46.889 They say the best 01:01:46.929 --> 01:01:48.390 conversations happen at happy hour. 01:01:48.410 --> 01:01:49.411 Thanks for coming to ours.