July 2, 2026

Why Most PT Ads Don’t Work

Why Most PT Ads Don’t Work
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This week on PT Breakfast Club, Tony Maritato, Dave Kittle, and Jimmy McKay look at a real physical therapy Instagram ad and ask a simple question:

Would this actually make someone take action?

The answer leads to a bigger conversation about physical therapy marketing, cluttered ads, weak offers, fake scarcity, AI-generated creative, trendjacking, TikTok Shop, LinkedIn recruiting, and how clinics can earn attention without looking like everyone else.

The crew talks about why “free physical therapy” may not be the irresistible offer some clinics think it is, why too many visuals and calls-to-action can make an ad feel cheap, and why AI can help create marketing but still needs a human being to check whether the final product makes sense.

They also get into Dave’s orange square LinkedIn post, Tony’s AI-generated Home Depot knee replacement image, and whether viral content is worth anything if it does not connect back to revenue.

The big takeaway:

You cannot interrupt a pattern if you do not have a pattern.



In this episode
  • Why many PT ads feel cluttered or cheap
  • The problem with “free PT” as a marketing hook
  • Why scarcity needs to feel real
  • How AI-generated ads can fail without human review
  • What PTs can learn from trendjacking and meme culture
  • Why attention only matters if it connects to a business goal
  • How TikTok Shop could become an opportunity for PT creators
  • Why Dave’s orange square LinkedIn post worked
  • How clinic owners can create better behind-the-scenes content
  • Why clear beats clever, and clear definitely beats clutter
Best quote

“You can’t interrupt a pattern if you don’t have a pattern.”

<p>This episode is part of the <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a>, where physical therapists and clinic owners learn how to get more patients, improve operations, and grow their clinic without relying only on referrals.</p>

<p>Looking for more episodes? Explore the full <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a> for real-world strategies on physical therapy marketing, patient acquisition, and clinic growth.</p>

Transcript
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Passing way too early from three separate

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Wi-Fi connections.

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It's PT Breakfast Club with Tony Meritato,

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Dave Kittle, and Jimmy McKay.

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Hot enough for you?

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I mean,

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what are you doing this weekend is easily

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the most asked question in health care to

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a patient.

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What'd you do about that heat or how's

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the heat treating you?

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That's got to be number two,

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especially in July, right?

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That's the cliche.

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It's the cliche.

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It's the cliche days.

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you know what i love i don't know

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if we talked about it already i love

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all the videos on social media from

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europeans coming here who are like going

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crazy about how amazing this country is

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how amazing the food is how amazing the

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people are it's such a breath of fresh

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air and then of course like everything is

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air conditioned and everything is you know

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You do, absolutely.

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As much as I try to produce more

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than I consume on social media,

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the negativity is outrageous.

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It's so nice to see the positivity.

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So funny you mention that.

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I was driving this morning and I work

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mostly from home, then travel.

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The funny part was when I was in

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radio, I was in the car a lot,

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which was notoriously one of the places

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you consume radio.

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So while I was ever in the car

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when I was in radio,

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I always made it a point to have

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the radio on and listen to things that

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were not just ours.

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And it does put you in that similar

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mindset of your consumer.

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People don't...

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We don't notice it because we're blind to

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it,

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how wide the aisles are at a grocery

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store or how big a Buc-ee's is.

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Somebody had a comment like,

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it's as big as our parliament.

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There is a gas station in America as

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large as our Capitol building.

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And we drive past and we go, oh,

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yeah, that's pretty big.

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The third time you drive past it,

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like Seth Godin would say,

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it's Purple Cow.

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But you don't notice it anymore.

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Yeah.

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Well, do you know the delicacy?

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You've heard this then if you're paying

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attention to the World Cup.

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The delicacy that people are – even the

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TSA, Transportation Safety Administration,

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is giving heads up.

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I'm sure you know this one.

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Let's see if Dave knows.

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Do you know the delicacy that Europeans

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are –

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infatuated with to the point where they're

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trying to take it home in their carry-ons

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but because it's our liquid our our crappy

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food our horrible it's a condiment ranch

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dressing baby i did i did hear that

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i did there were crazy over ranch they

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they're surprised europeans you're not

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missing anything you're not missing

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anything with the ranch

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Oh, nowadays.

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I don't know, man.

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The funny part is it was Italians.

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And I'm like,

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do you know what I don't want to

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see in Italy on the menu?

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Ranch.

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I like that here.

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I don't want to see that on the

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menu in Italy.

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I love pizza with ranch.

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Dipping pizza in ranch.

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Oh, my Lord.

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Oh, my Lord.

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Oh, my Lord.

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I was more of a,

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if it's two o'clock in the morning,

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you dip the pizza in blue cheese.

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That was the thing I didn't see coming

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that I would enjoy.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Let's get into it.

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You shared an ad.

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I've got it.

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I can bring it up on screen.

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You shared the one yesterday and you were

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saying you had some feelings about it.

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Dave,

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why don't you describe the ad while I

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work my magic to get it up on

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screen here?

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Yeah, this was on Instagram.

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I think it was it was like one

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of those story ads.

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Like if you're looking at stories and they

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throw an ad in front of you.

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So it was not in the news feed.

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And you can see it's kind of like

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the full the full size of the phone.

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So this was like a like a story

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ad.

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a story ad.

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And again,

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not to pick on this physical therapist.

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I think he's in the area in the

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New York city area of redefined physical

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therapy, not a big deal,

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but I just looked at this and I

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sent it to you guys.

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I do.

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This is what we do.

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I don't know if the audience,

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I think the audience knows by now,

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like we just screenshot stuff or we'll

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send links to each other.

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And we're kind of like,

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Like this is awesome or this is horrible

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or like, yeah,

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what do you guys think or whatever?

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So I sent this to you guys and

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to me, it just,

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it just looks or feels like cheap.

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I don't know if it's the, the gold,

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the gold, uh, circle banner with like the,

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almost like the ribbon or the, or the,

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the, yeah, like the sticker.

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It just looks, it looks cheap.

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It looks like it was made probably on

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chat GPT or Gemini or Claude or something.

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And, um, yeah,

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I don't know.

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There's nothing wrong with you.

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You should absolutely use those tools to

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get in front of your ideal patient.

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And maybe this resonates with their ideal

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patient.

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Maybe this ad is crushing it.

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In the coming weeks and months,

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especially, you know,

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let's say in the next six to twelve

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months, if I keep seeing this ad,

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then I will send it to you guys

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again and say, hey, obviously,

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obviously I was wrong.

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Obviously,

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this ad is working because this physical

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therapy practice is

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still running it and you're only going to

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keep running ads for multiple weeks or

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months if it's crushing or if it's doing

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well my initial response was this looks

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kind of tacky or something i don't know

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what do you guys think tony what's your

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what's your initial gut reaction here with

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this thing

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Yeah, I mean,

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you got to talk to the person who

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posted it.

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What is their idea behind it?

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What's the intent behind it?

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Free vouchers is just weird anyway.

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I've always said I could fly a flag

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like the two crazies who were on the

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Empire State Building.

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Yeah.

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And I could say free physical therapy for

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a month and it wouldn't make any

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difference.

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Nobody cares about free physical therapy,

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at least not in my world.

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It's not going to be like Chick-fil-A can

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give you a free sandwich and the line

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is out the door around the block.

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Nobody is going to line up for free

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physical therapy.

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There's no value in that.

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Yeah.

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For me,

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I would need to know the goals.

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But now that we're looking at this ad

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together,

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there's like four things that's going on

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here.

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There's too much.

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I don't know where my eye is supposed

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to go.

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Am I supposed to go to the image?

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Then there's a bulleted list.

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Then there's a free voucher thing.

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Then there's a claim your spot.

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I get what you're trying to do with

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scarcity.

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Fifty is not the number.

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If you're trying to do scarcity, I'm like,

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I'll take my time.

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Three, five, seven.

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Ironically, as dumb as it sounds,

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I read stuff like this and they say

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odd numbers actually perform better for

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some stupid reason.

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But fifty ain't it.

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Because if you've got fifty,

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I'll come back in a week.

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Let me know what you've got.

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But they're trying something.

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They are trying something.

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Unfortunately,

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I think in this particular ad,

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they're trying seven things at once.

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Avoid surgery and get back to an active

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life.

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That should have been it.

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But when you're sitting there,

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I get when you've got Canva and it'll

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just let me keep adding things.

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Now, I will give them this thing,

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although this doesn't look it.

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Have you heard about

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the issue with the company rei and they

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didn't run an ad but meta used ai

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and ran an ad for them i think

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this is meta's way of pushing out like

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well we'll have rei do it and then

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we can sell it to the redefined physical

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therapies the problem was they took

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content from rei's page

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used an ai ad generator generated it but

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rei got crap because they're all about

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nature and of course what's the opposite

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of nature data centers right so rei wants

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to be as clean i bet you they're

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a company that comes out and says we

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only use real images taken by real

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photography but here's the image can you

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spot the problem with the rei ad i

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don't know if you guys are cycling experts

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The pedals?

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Oh, the handlebars.

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The handlebars behind the seat.

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Yes, look, there's two handles.

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Which way are you supposed to ride that

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bike?

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The AI put handlebars.

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It's a mountain bike.

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So the mountain bike is going from my

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right to my left if you watch the

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screen.

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But the AI put handlebars.

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It didn't know what to do.

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It put another set of handlebars going the

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wrong way,

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which would be an uncomfortable bike seat.

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So I was going to give them this

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organization, the PT organization,

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the benefit of the doubt.

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But that's what happens when you give all

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creative control and there's no checks.

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Larry Benz has an episode of his podcast,

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The Operator.

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I helped produce it.

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I'm on it.

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He had a great line for his episode

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that comes...

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The article came out yesterday.

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His podcast will drop today.

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And he said...

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autopilot flies the plane.

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If there's an altitude change,

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it does that.

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It does some turns,

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but human beings take off and land.

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And when the red light goes off,

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autopilot says, grab the wheel again.

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Now you're in charge.

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So I think it's okay to have AI

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do some of these things,

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but you should have someone look at it

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and go,

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does this pass the smell test?

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Does this feel good to you?

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Does this, like the first thing we said,

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does this accomplish the goal we set out

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to accomplish?

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So A for music doing something,

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I don't know, not an A,

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C plus for doing something or a C,

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I don't know, what's it?

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Maybe a B or C, yeah.

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I was going to say,

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so I like the,

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I do like the headline.

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I'm fine with the yellow accent on active

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life.

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I don't know about get a free again.

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That's another thing.

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Like we have, when our,

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when I have new therapists, by the way,

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like get ramped up,

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we'll reach back out to like previous

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clients.

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And as goodwill we'll announce like over

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text or email to our previous clients,

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like, Hey, we have Dr. Andrew.

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Hey, we have Dr. Ethan now to get,

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you know,

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basically it's like to get them busy.

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We'll offer previous clients a

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complimentary visit.

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But I used to say free,

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I used to say the word free,

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you know, words matter.

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Words are important.

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So we used to say, you know,

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free visit with Andrew,

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free visit with Dr.

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Ethan and it expires next Friday.

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Now it's like instead of two weeks,

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it's like one week.

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Now, all of a sudden,

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more people grab it.

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More people do it because we're big,

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dumb animals.

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The aesthetic real quick of the ad.

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Another thing that I think distracts is

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that there's two different images.

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Right.

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I think it's probably it's probably best

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to do one image per ad.

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And again,

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I could be wrong,

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but with doing these ads,

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and by the way,

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I'm maybe in the future,

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in the near future,

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getting back into some meta ads to test,

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but you have to have like a ton

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of creative.

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Like every time you run an ad,

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there's gotta be like dozens of

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variations.

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And then you just like,

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you pick the winner,

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you see which one's winning,

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and then you just double down on that.

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Then you make more new versions that

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models closer to the ones that already

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were winning.

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And then you continue to refine it and

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refine it.

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This with two images is distracting,

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right?

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It's like one headline, top to bottom,

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my eyes go headline, sub headline.

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Now it's like two images.

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So it's like,

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do I look left or right?

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Then like you said, Jimmy,

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I got the bulleted list on the left.

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I got the the fifty free voucher sticker

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and claim your spot, you know,

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call to action in like yellow orangish.

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It's just a lot going on.

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So again,

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we could see if I keep getting hit

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with this ad in a month or two,

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I'll share it with you guys again.

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I'll be like, hey, we're still running it.

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I recorded radio versions of this that

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just sounded like I'm talking about one

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thing, then another, then another.

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You know what we call this in radio?

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We call this ten pounds of shit in

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a five pound bag.

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It just doesn't fit.

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It ain't accomplishing the goal.

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It looks mushy.

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It's busting out the sides.

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What would you have done with this?

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And this is, what was the story?

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This came out late.

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So this was people climbed, what?

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Yeah,

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a couple climbed to the very extreme tip

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of the Empire State Building,

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which is insane.

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That's insane.

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I don't know if you saw this,

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but yesterday on Instagram,

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in the evening,

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there was a post from Netflix that was,

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I think this couple,

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Oh, yeah.

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And they did a documentary then.

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And I think that there might be something

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coming out with them again.

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And I think this proposal media, I think,

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is a media stunt probably backed by

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Netflix.

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I don't know.

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I don't know for sure.

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I don't know for sure.

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Maybe it'll come out this week or today

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or something.

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But that's my hunch.

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And, you know, then I don't know.

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Well,

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the city of New York and Netflix and

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Netflix will just pay a fine.

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You guys know me and you might roll

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your eyes,

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but of course I see something and then

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I'm like, oh,

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I have a story for that.

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So AAA baseball in Scranton,

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the local team became the AAA Yankees.

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And when that happened,

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they changed from the Phillies to the AAA

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affiliate Yankees in the Scranton.

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We couldn't get in the stadium the first

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game because our media competitors had

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media rights.

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And the lead singer of Breaking Benjamin,

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which is a band we played the crap

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out of,

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was going to sing the national anthem.

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We could not be there.

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So, of course, Jimmy goes,

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I'm going to figure out a way to

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do that.

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The stadium was sort of built in a

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valley.

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And in left field was a mall and

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an Italian restaurant.

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I took the vinyl from one of our

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billboards.

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Like when they take it down,

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they ask if you want it or shred

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it.

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I go, oh, I want that.

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And it just had a young woman in

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a tank top that said,

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I'm your next ex-girlfriend because the

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radio station was ninety seven nine X.

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And when they said and the home of

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the brave.

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We unfurled our banner in left field so

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the entire stadium could see it,

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but we weren't on the field.

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So this is hijacking someone else's

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visibility.

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What do you think it would cost to

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get a logo on the top of the

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NFL stadium?

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incalculable you'll never get that money

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back but it's a step forward it doesn't

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have to be a billion dollars ours was

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cute for a moment i got yelled at

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by it because of course you know the

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stadium was like you can't do that i'm

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like oh it's not your rocks i can

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climb on rock but of course i was

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never going to do the same gag again

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anyway it was the point but i think

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you're right tony like you could do

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whatever you want and for what we provide

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it's is it because it's too abstract

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I'm thinking, I don't know.

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Tony, I don't know if you saw,

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but at least the people that I follow

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on Instagram in the New York City area,

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people started to hijack that stunt and

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have their own stuff AI on a banner.

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And it was like, you know,

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weight loss opportunity in new york city

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or whatever or you know personal training

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we're the best whatever and like it's the

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two it's the two the russian the russian

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couple that went up to the top of

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the empire state building that got

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arrested for and they you know they just

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changed the world

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And they just changed the word.

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So like, but that was multiple people.

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And it's so funny.

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Like,

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I know we've all seen this where like

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something happens and then like people

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pile on and do like an AI version

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for themselves for like self-promotion.

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I'm totally fine with self-promotion.

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But Tony,

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you didn't see any of that on your

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newsfeed yesterday afternoon or evening?

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Absolutely.

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I saw that.

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I'm going to share an image.

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um i don't know this meme this meme

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yeah this meme is just filling my feed

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the wmba girl who's pointing at the other

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girl who says don't point at me um

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there are so many like hilarious takes on

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it like that girl in the physical therapy

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clinic pointing and then the therapist

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pointing back and

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I've been seeing this trend on Instagram

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where it's like gangster, gangsta,

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and they're CrossFit gyms.

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And the person will walk by the other

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gym and they'll pull up their shirt and

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they show a dumbbell, you know,

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like a gun.

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And there are just so many of these

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things that, yeah, totally.

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Why is it not the massage gun?

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Yeah, but it's the yes and.

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It's the ultimate,

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what can I take out of this?

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And I don't have to re-explain the rules.

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This is why when I used to do

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radio bar events,

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I didn't do complicated games.

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I did musical chairs,

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but with adults and drunk people.

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Because I didn't need to explain anything.

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It was simple and you already understood

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the gag.

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And that's why a play on these is

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pretty brilliant.

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And I mean, simple, quick, in and out.

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I've got a friend, Kay,

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who runs the Instagram page,

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DPTs with Anxiety.

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In the kitchen.

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that's the whole strategy that's the whole

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strategy she'll see this and then she does

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nine versions of it puts it out and

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everyone's like oh that's this is my

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favorite oh i like how you spun that

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it's yes and when something popped

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like the Empire State Building thing,

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you knew what our entire radio station was

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talking about, mocking, loving, hating.

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There's no mayonnaise.

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It's always ranch dressing, baby.

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It's got to be one way or the

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other.

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No mayonnaise.

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It's got to be a little spice.

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We were either going to love it and

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own it,

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or we were going to trash it and

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tear it down.

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And then, forty-eight hours later,

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we were gone with it.

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Just so the viewers and Dave knows we're

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wrapping today's episode at nine.

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So we have about eleven more minutes.

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Yeah.

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But the question is,

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so now now we go back to reality.

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Now we say, OK,

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does this turn into money?

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Does this put dollars in our pocket?

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Is this just for, you know,

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vanity metrics?

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I will say, though,

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a couple of weeks or a week or

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two ago,

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we shared the Home Depot do it yourself

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total knee replacement image that I

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generated.

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I cannot believe how fast you brought that

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up.

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Boom.

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So,

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but that image put four hundred dollars in

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my bank account,

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like just from Instagram bonus,

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which I didn't even realize it was a

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thing.

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Yeah.

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On Instagram,

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that image has generated about four

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hundred dollars in bonus income for me.

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um i was on uh paypal i went

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into paypal this morning because someone

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was sending me a payment and i've got

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all of these thirty dollar facebook

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payments and i don't even know what

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they're from like facebook is paying me

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thirty dollars every two weeks i gotta

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figure out why why i'm making that money

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i found so i found two times in

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a nickel yesterday so that's it's like the

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same thing tony's got money being paypal

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to him he doesn't know where it's coming

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from

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But yeah, we need to understand, like,

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I don't want to put the effort into

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making a funny meme with the girl pointing

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and me pointing back.

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Donald Trump pointing at the basketball

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player and her pointing back is freaking

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hilarious.

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I don't want to put time into that

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because I don't know if it's going to

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make me money.

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Unless you can directly draw a line to

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what you're doing.

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Like this is,

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this is where like Judy and Judy's

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pancakes come in.

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She takes a video and whatever it is,

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she just figures out where do we jam

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Judy?

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Judy is the marketing strategy.

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And if you don't know who we're talking

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about,

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just look up Judy and pancakes and look

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at their Instagram account.

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And she has said people.

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Now she's in, I can't,

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it begins with a G random ass, Illinois,

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and she sells pancakes, but,

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she's a tourist attraction now and she's

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the thing.

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And because the kids want to do it.

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And in your brain, you're like, all right,

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well, if we're anywhere close,

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the kids get a t-shirt,

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but now whatever Judy paid for real

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estate,

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she didn't do it in downtown Chicago.

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She did it in a random ass spot,

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but she went to the people with those

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things and she understood it.

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Tony needs it.

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I'm a tick.

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I'm a tick tock famous shirt for sure.

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Tony needs this thing.

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Concierge pain relief is back on tick

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tock.

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Speaking of TikTok, guys,

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I have been down the rabbit hole of

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how much money regular people,

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forty year olds, fifty year olds,

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sixty year olds are making as TikTok shop

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affiliates.

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Yeah, it is absurd.

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And so this morning before we got on,

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because I was going to try and bring

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some numbers,

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but I didn't have them ready yet.

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I was looking at like,

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what are the products?

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What could I what could I promote that

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I already use in my clinic?

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I think the biggest one that none of

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us are taking advantage of is BioFreeze.

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Like Dave,

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you seem like somebody who would be using

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something like that.

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I never use it in the clinic,

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but I should, I could.

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I think it's got commercial appeal.

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It's got the history behind it.

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It's been around forever.

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You know,

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the consumer wasn't able to buy BioFreeze

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directly from the company.

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They had to go through the healthcare

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provider.

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But now I think that's something that

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literally could put six figures in your

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bank account because the general appeal

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and accessibility for a product like that,

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if you made one viral video that hit

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several million views,

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which is totally doable for any of us.

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I'm trying to better understand how

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TikTok,

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I've got like two hundred dollars in my

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TikTok affiliate account that I've earned.

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But I think this is a really ideal

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opportunity for people like us.

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For someone thinking and going,

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but I don't want to do the ticky-tocky,

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like, just talk about it.

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Yeah, it wouldn't be any of that.

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No dances, no gimmicks.

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Here's how Rory Sutherland, I think,

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would explain it.

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He would say all TikTok did was two

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things.

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they took the distance between someone

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seeing something and giggling about

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something or being interested in something

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and owning that.

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And they took that distance down to

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essentially as close to zero as possible.

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And they aligned the person who has

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credibility or an audience or the ability

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to build an audience.

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And they put them on the same team

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as the Biofreeze or the Hyper Ice Gun.

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And they said,

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if you do this thing this much and

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it gets this much,

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we'll give you a cut.

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The reach is infinity.

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Like the reach is potentially,

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it could be infinity.

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So simple, but not easy.

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And Ben's already pilot bio,

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bio mildly cold is a cheaper alternative.

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I don't know if that's a,

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is that a dad joke or is that

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there actually something called bio?

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That'd be a smart, like six minute abs.

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Why not do five minute abs?

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Dave,

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you brought up or you shared an ad

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that you share or that you created or

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I should say a post on LinkedIn.

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I wanted to ask you about it because

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I wanted to see if it was an

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error and I'll bring it up on screen

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here.

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So you had the ad and I'll zoom

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in a little bit.

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Physical therapists in New York City paid

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more for treating less.

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Great hook because that doesn't make

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sense.

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I get paid more.

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That's why I have to keep reading.

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How is that possible?

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He says.

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And then you go on to a set.

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You're using hard numbers,

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which nobody does,

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which is the way to do it.

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How is it possible to earn a buck

00:22:39.661 --> 00:22:41.163
twenty six to one hundred and seventy K,

00:22:41.502 --> 00:22:42.923
but only treating four to six patients a

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day?

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Details below.

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What's up with the orange square?

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I stopped.

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It got me.

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So I want to know,

00:22:50.951 --> 00:22:52.394
where'd you come up with this?

00:22:52.433 --> 00:22:53.795
I was like, is it not loading?

00:22:53.835 --> 00:22:56.096
Where's the is my phone broken?

00:22:56.136 --> 00:22:56.597
What happened?

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This is partly why I did this,

00:23:01.571 --> 00:23:02.534
so that we can talk about it.

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Neither of you have ever seen this before?

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No.

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I don't think so, no.

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You probably have seen it before because

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this was what,

00:23:15.654 --> 00:23:17.335
do you remember the fire festival?

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The guy that eventually got, uh,

00:23:20.036 --> 00:23:22.457
in trouble, the original promoter,

00:23:22.797 --> 00:23:23.636
I forget the guy's name.

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Uh, they were paying all of the big,

00:23:28.397 --> 00:23:30.199
like all the celebrities and the models

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and the people that were going to be

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Kardashian.

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They were all posting.

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The Orange Square.

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This was on Instagram mostly years ago

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with the Fyre Festival.

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And it was meant to be exactly what

00:23:44.105 --> 00:23:44.806
it did to Jimmy,

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which is it's a pattern interrupt.

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It's a scroll stopper.

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And I could have used a different color.

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I could have maybe used our own brand

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color.

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I could have just done royal blue or

00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:55.490
something.

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But I went with the exact same solid

00:24:00.092 --> 00:24:04.634
orange square image that is meant to cause

00:24:05.555 --> 00:24:08.798
you to pause or give you intrigue or

00:24:08.858 --> 00:24:10.480
yeah is there an error or like what

00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:12.301
what is this like um usually it's going

00:24:12.321 --> 00:24:15.065
to be text on the square right so

00:24:15.105 --> 00:24:17.386
that it literally that is literally the

00:24:17.467 --> 00:24:19.710
point of it is to be unique different

00:24:20.170 --> 00:24:22.932
something that you will not see or haven't

00:24:22.952 --> 00:24:24.433
seen recently in your feed and probably

00:24:24.454 --> 00:24:26.396
won't see for a while unless other people

00:24:26.416 --> 00:24:27.518
start copying it so

00:24:28.807 --> 00:24:29.708
I'm surprised that you guys don't

00:24:29.728 --> 00:24:29.988
remember,

00:24:30.008 --> 00:24:30.769
but I know it was kind of like

00:24:30.788 --> 00:24:31.269
a big thing.

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Yeah, Scott Embry is here live.

00:24:34.590 --> 00:24:38.153
Scott probably saw that on LinkedIn.

00:24:38.233 --> 00:24:39.875
Scott's always on LinkedIn, I think.

00:24:40.536 --> 00:24:42.017
And Scott agrees with Jimmy.

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Great hook and got his attention for sure.

00:24:44.618 --> 00:24:46.059
So that's the point, right?

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First line, hook on purpose,

00:24:48.461 --> 00:24:49.741
but the image is also kind of like

00:24:49.781 --> 00:24:50.442
a visual hook.

00:24:50.923 --> 00:24:52.403
I'm going to get really nitpicky.

00:24:52.423 --> 00:24:54.885
The only way to make this better is...

00:24:55.205 --> 00:24:55.645
Give it to me.

00:24:55.665 --> 00:24:56.846
Give it to me.

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Don't put the space here.

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Don't have the space here.

00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:03.711
Make this second line here.

00:25:03.770 --> 00:25:04.371
Here's why.

00:25:05.231 --> 00:25:09.513
LinkedIn will truncate this and sometimes

00:25:09.554 --> 00:25:11.996
make people see more to expand.

00:25:12.576 --> 00:25:14.537
And I don't want that second subhead to

00:25:14.557 --> 00:25:15.157
get cut off.

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That's the only, and that's like,

00:25:17.511 --> 00:25:19.073
that's like a point five percent.

00:25:19.093 --> 00:25:21.633
The rest of it, I think, is fine.

00:25:21.932 --> 00:25:23.093
What was in the comments, though?

00:25:23.113 --> 00:25:25.294
You tried to share something and it didn't

00:25:25.334 --> 00:25:25.653
work.

00:25:26.433 --> 00:25:26.653
Yeah.

00:25:26.673 --> 00:25:27.854
So then I then I was like,

00:25:27.933 --> 00:25:30.714
my my intention was actually to add a

00:25:30.755 --> 00:25:31.994
couple like PDFs.

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Right.

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So we have like a seven or something,

00:25:34.634 --> 00:25:36.236
six or seven page FAQ,

00:25:36.615 --> 00:25:38.596
because I want people to know a bunch

00:25:38.615 --> 00:25:40.455
of information before we even do an intro

00:25:40.496 --> 00:25:40.715
call.

00:25:40.796 --> 00:25:41.737
I don't want to do an intro call

00:25:41.777 --> 00:25:43.116
where I'm answering the same questions

00:25:43.136 --> 00:25:43.477
every day.

00:25:44.234 --> 00:25:47.837
So I tried to attach PDFs and then

00:25:47.938 --> 00:25:48.999
I was like, I was like, oh crap,

00:25:49.038 --> 00:25:49.599
I can't do it.

00:25:49.619 --> 00:25:50.420
And I'm like, ah, whatever.

00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:51.080
I'm just going to leave it.

00:25:51.181 --> 00:25:52.823
And so now, now, now I'm getting,

00:25:53.083 --> 00:25:55.144
now I'm getting DMS and emails from this

00:25:55.184 --> 00:25:55.625
post.

00:25:56.164 --> 00:25:56.465
Right.

00:25:56.905 --> 00:25:58.847
Uh, asking for the FAQ document,

00:25:59.008 --> 00:25:59.868
which I have to send them.

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And then I'm also asking for the two

00:26:01.369 --> 00:26:03.372
pager elite clinician growth opportunity,

00:26:03.392 --> 00:26:05.534
which is like describes like the base

00:26:05.554 --> 00:26:08.536
salary, the performance pay weekly PTO,

00:26:08.596 --> 00:26:09.297
like that whole thing.

00:26:09.796 --> 00:26:10.797
I thought what you were trying to do

00:26:10.876 --> 00:26:13.317
is get people to comment to drive

00:26:13.377 --> 00:26:14.117
attention too.

00:26:14.137 --> 00:26:15.159
Because if more people comment,

00:26:15.199 --> 00:26:16.038
it shows it to more people.

00:26:16.078 --> 00:26:17.220
More people comment, snowball effect.

00:26:18.760 --> 00:26:19.981
Overall, I think that's great.

00:26:20.102 --> 00:26:22.643
Again, that took you five minutes,

00:26:22.682 --> 00:26:24.324
ten minutes to think about and execute it.

00:26:24.584 --> 00:26:26.065
If it gets you an interview that leads

00:26:26.105 --> 00:26:28.465
to a hire,

00:26:28.486 --> 00:26:29.747
it feels like it's a good use of

00:26:29.767 --> 00:26:30.067
your time.

00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:33.259
We got two minutes left.

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.060
Let's go with parting shots so we're not

00:26:35.101 --> 00:26:35.961
late to our next gig.

00:26:36.482 --> 00:26:38.304
What do you got for us?

00:26:39.244 --> 00:26:39.665
Parting shots.

00:26:40.281 --> 00:26:41.923
I want to talk about next time.

00:26:42.502 --> 00:26:43.584
Boom ball.

00:26:44.163 --> 00:26:47.125
So this is an up and coming competitor

00:26:47.165 --> 00:26:48.125
for banana ball.

00:26:48.705 --> 00:26:49.326
You know, I mean,

00:26:49.386 --> 00:26:50.366
this is what's going to happen.

00:26:50.386 --> 00:26:51.948
You create something amazing.

00:26:51.988 --> 00:26:53.568
There are going to be people who make

00:26:53.588 --> 00:26:54.249
it even better.

00:26:55.109 --> 00:26:57.270
There are some interesting rule changes

00:26:57.391 --> 00:26:58.310
and how it works.

00:26:58.411 --> 00:26:58.750
Yeah.

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I read about that.

00:27:00.711 --> 00:27:03.753
They play with a live hand grenade.

00:27:03.953 --> 00:27:04.773
One out of nine innings.

00:27:04.794 --> 00:27:05.714
You never know which one it is.

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You have to watch.

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It's called boom ball.

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So what's going to be the boom ball

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for the physical therapy profession?

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How is this going to change and grow

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and adapt into something new and

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different?

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That's my parting shot.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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That's a good one.

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All right.

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That's a good conversation.

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I'll come prepared for that one.

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What do you got, Dave?

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Party shot.

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I'll go back to that social media post.

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Just trying to do things that are

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different, unique.

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Try to think outside the box,

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whether it's posting on social media,

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making videos.

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We got a bunch of videos coming out

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that I was telling Tony about last week

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where we're having a catch in Central Park

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with a real baseball and gloves and

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talking about physical therapy and

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healthcare in New York city and all that.

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So we're just trying to continue to,

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of course we've got to sprinkle in the

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normal stuff,

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like sprinkling videos of like treatment,

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manual therapy, you know,

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therapy exercise, like strength training,

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that type of stuff,

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but also sprinkling in like the,

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what someone described to me recently,

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like the, the behind the scenes, like,

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you know,

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walking down the street with one of my

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therapists and we're just,

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we're just chatting.

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Right.

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So, um, that, that,

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that's my parting shot.

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Just like,

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we're continuing to do different things

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and almost getting closer to the point of

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Tony's stage advice, which is like,

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we should be recording everything.

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We should be posting everything like HEP

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videos for patients, put that online with,

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with their,

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with their permission and therapists

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talking like, um,

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Like talking between patients and waiting

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for a patient to show up.

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Are they going to be late?

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Are they going to be early?

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Are they going to no-show?

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Like whatever,

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like all that type of stuff.

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So that's my parting shot.

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Can't interrupt a pattern if you don't

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have a pattern.

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So do the normal stuff, right?

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And then every once in a while...

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Shake it up.

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That's why there's specials.

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There's a blue face special.

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Got to throw him a curveball.

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Curveball.

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Curveball.

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Got to throw him a curveball.

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All right, guys.

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We're back next week.

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And enjoy the heat.

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Enjoy the heat.

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Stay cool.

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That's it.

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We're out.

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Boys, what the hell are you doing?

00:28:51.711 --> 00:28:53.030
Follow Tony Maritato on YouTube at Total

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Therapy Solution.

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Find Dave Kittle at

00:28:53.832 --> 00:28:55.612
conciergepainrelief.com and on YouTube at

00:28:55.852 --> 00:29:03.994
The Dave Kittle Show.

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and follow Jimmy McKay at PG Podcasts on

00:29:07.518 --> 00:29:08.699
YouTube, the socials,

00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.540
and wherever you binge podcasts you

00:29:10.560 --> 00:29:12.222
pretend are for CEUs.

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And hey, just a reminder,

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none of this was for advice.

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This was for entertainment only.

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Our lawyers say that counts.

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Thanks, Keith.