What Color is your Personality Profile?

WEBVTT 00:00:00.629 --> 00:00:02.908 Are you stressed? 00:00:06.855 --> 00:00:07.516 go through I need to 00:00:07.575 --> 00:00:09.037 actually create us a legit 00:00:09.196 --> 00:00:11.378 like intro for someday I 00:00:11.398 --> 00:00:11.958 don't know if you have the 00:00:12.019 --> 00:00:13.359 name of our show down just 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:14.942 yet brunch bunch sounds a 00:00:14.981 --> 00:00:17.484 little it's not as it needs 00:00:17.504 --> 00:00:18.463 to be I don't know I'm a 00:00:18.484 --> 00:00:19.625 little more accurate but hi 00:00:20.006 --> 00:00:20.806 welcome back to the live 00:00:20.826 --> 00:00:22.387 stream we do this every 00:00:22.446 --> 00:00:26.830 thursday at 10 30 45 ish 00:00:27.411 --> 00:00:28.251 should we get around to 00:00:28.271 --> 00:00:29.213 it's like having a radio 00:00:29.253 --> 00:00:30.493 show whenever you want 00:00:31.254 --> 00:00:32.414 uh that is rebecca griffith 00:00:32.795 --> 00:00:34.814 that is elise the uncle pt 00:00:34.835 --> 00:00:36.356 and I'm jimmy and welcome 00:00:36.375 --> 00:00:37.176 back to the live stream 00:00:37.276 --> 00:00:37.996 that we then turn into a 00:00:38.036 --> 00:00:39.456 podcast episodes and yada 00:00:39.475 --> 00:00:41.536 yada uh so elise you had a 00:00:41.576 --> 00:00:43.817 thought which is fun and 00:00:44.158 --> 00:00:45.158 you highlighted that it is 00:00:45.198 --> 00:00:46.018 almost the end of quarter 00:00:46.177 --> 00:00:47.539 one and you wanted to talk 00:00:47.579 --> 00:00:49.338 about something good that 00:00:49.378 --> 00:00:52.000 you had done yes that has 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:53.640 brought you positive I'm 00:00:53.780 --> 00:00:54.820 guessing positive results 00:00:54.860 --> 00:00:56.401 or positive uh vibes 00:00:56.966 --> 00:00:58.046 Very positive results. 00:00:58.207 --> 00:01:01.829 So I have felt very anti New 00:01:01.848 --> 00:01:03.308 Year's resolutions for a long time, 00:01:03.429 --> 00:01:04.329 mainly because I would set 00:01:04.370 --> 00:01:05.250 them and then they would 00:01:05.290 --> 00:01:06.771 never happen because I 00:01:06.811 --> 00:01:07.731 didn't take the steps to 00:01:07.772 --> 00:01:09.933 actually like it is a me thing. 00:01:10.173 --> 00:01:11.492 Hello, it's me on the problem. 00:01:11.533 --> 00:01:11.793 It's me. 00:01:12.674 --> 00:01:15.055 But I actually had Rebecca 00:01:15.174 --> 00:01:17.115 on my own podcast towards 00:01:17.156 --> 00:01:18.135 the end of last year. 00:01:18.415 --> 00:01:20.856 And she, like I was dealing with burnout. 00:01:21.378 --> 00:01:22.278 This was something that I 00:01:22.457 --> 00:01:23.379 was really struggling with. 00:01:23.418 --> 00:01:24.858 I was down in basically this 00:01:24.918 --> 00:01:26.780 pit and going through this 00:01:26.900 --> 00:01:28.661 exercise that Rebecca had me do. 00:01:30.474 --> 00:01:31.355 Has actually worked. 00:01:31.475 --> 00:01:32.816 And the biggest difference for me, 00:01:32.876 --> 00:01:35.239 which we can get into what it was, 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:36.260 because Rebecca's obviously 00:01:36.301 --> 00:01:36.960 here to talk about it, 00:01:37.561 --> 00:01:38.722 but I was reflecting last 00:01:38.783 --> 00:01:39.924 night and one of the goals 00:01:39.983 --> 00:01:41.445 I set for myself was I want 00:01:41.486 --> 00:01:42.966 to guest on someone else's 00:01:43.046 --> 00:01:45.989 podcast once a month for the whole year. 00:01:46.831 --> 00:01:49.813 And this was before this 00:01:50.233 --> 00:01:51.275 started happening. 00:01:51.495 --> 00:01:52.796 And it's just like, 00:01:54.361 --> 00:01:55.483 This was probably the first 00:01:55.563 --> 00:01:56.664 example in my life of like, 00:01:56.825 --> 00:01:58.566 I spoke it into existence 00:01:58.906 --> 00:01:59.828 and it's happening. 00:02:00.069 --> 00:02:01.971 And this is like such an, 00:02:02.251 --> 00:02:03.754 like a brain unlock for me. 00:02:03.774 --> 00:02:05.096 And I'm just so excited about it. 00:02:05.115 --> 00:02:06.016 Now, hold on. 00:02:06.438 --> 00:02:07.099 So we heard that. 00:02:07.179 --> 00:02:08.259 Now I want to hear from Rebecca. 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:09.342 Why did it work? 00:02:10.233 --> 00:02:10.432 Well, 00:02:10.453 --> 00:02:12.054 I would say the reason that that 00:02:12.133 --> 00:02:13.213 particular thing worked 00:02:13.294 --> 00:02:14.294 right was because not only 00:02:14.335 --> 00:02:15.715 did you speak it into existence, 00:02:15.794 --> 00:02:16.955 you spoke it to somebody 00:02:17.675 --> 00:02:20.137 else who could help you manifest that, 00:02:20.197 --> 00:02:20.396 right? 00:02:20.456 --> 00:02:22.198 So I think that's the big 00:02:22.237 --> 00:02:22.877 piece about this. 00:02:22.897 --> 00:02:24.618 Because then Jimmy says to me, hey, 00:02:24.878 --> 00:02:26.079 we should record this podcast, 00:02:26.098 --> 00:02:27.500 but I think we need another person. 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:28.520 Who would you suggest? 00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:29.120 I'm like, 00:02:29.139 --> 00:02:31.061 you know who has a goal about 00:02:31.100 --> 00:02:32.442 being on another podcast? 00:02:33.361 --> 00:02:35.823 A certain Texas Barbie PT that I know. 00:02:36.752 --> 00:02:37.992 Do you consider... That's 00:02:38.013 --> 00:02:38.973 the first time I've ever heard that. 00:02:39.234 --> 00:02:40.254 Texas Barbie PT? 00:02:40.375 --> 00:02:41.034 Oh, we're Barbies. 00:02:41.215 --> 00:02:41.596 We're Barbies. 00:02:41.616 --> 00:02:42.156 What does that mean? 00:02:43.056 --> 00:02:43.697 We're PT Barbies. 00:02:43.717 --> 00:02:44.937 Have you seen the Barbie movie, Jimmy? 00:02:45.318 --> 00:02:47.120 I haven't, but I was around for the buzz. 00:02:47.659 --> 00:02:48.980 So I feel like that movie 00:02:49.542 --> 00:02:51.823 re-co-opted the term where 00:02:51.842 --> 00:02:55.526 I feel like 15 years ago or 15 months ago, 00:02:56.165 --> 00:02:57.426 Barbie was a negative term. 00:02:57.788 --> 00:02:58.087 Correct. 00:02:58.168 --> 00:02:59.049 I didn't see the movie. 00:02:59.109 --> 00:03:00.550 So explain it to me why now 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:02.390 women have re-co-opted 00:03:02.450 --> 00:03:04.953 Barbie into a positive term. 00:03:05.713 --> 00:03:06.193 Explain that to me. 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:08.260 You explain that. 00:03:09.100 --> 00:03:09.602 I'll go first. 00:03:09.942 --> 00:03:10.162 Yeah. 00:03:11.022 --> 00:03:12.524 So I have always been a Barbie girl. 00:03:12.604 --> 00:03:15.145 Like Barbie was the name of 00:03:15.186 --> 00:03:16.728 the toy forever and always 00:03:16.768 --> 00:03:17.388 that I played with my 00:03:17.427 --> 00:03:19.330 sister at home growing up. 00:03:19.889 --> 00:03:22.171 And so when I played with 00:03:22.211 --> 00:03:22.992 Barbies growing up, 00:03:23.312 --> 00:03:24.394 Barbie was everything. 00:03:24.454 --> 00:03:25.514 My favorite Barbie that I 00:03:25.555 --> 00:03:26.635 played with was actually a 00:03:26.955 --> 00:03:28.456 secret agent spy Barbie. 00:03:28.477 --> 00:03:29.698 I didn't realize they had secret agents. 00:03:31.270 --> 00:03:32.831 And so, you know, 00:03:33.073 --> 00:03:34.675 that was my favorite Barbie, 00:03:34.715 --> 00:03:35.756 but I had other Barbies. 00:03:36.197 --> 00:03:36.758 And so for me, 00:03:36.897 --> 00:03:38.379 Barbie was always whoever I 00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:39.361 wanted her to be. 00:03:39.562 --> 00:03:40.423 And so now that I've 00:03:41.377 --> 00:03:42.758 grown older. 00:03:42.798 --> 00:03:43.718 I'm not going to say grown up. 00:03:44.258 --> 00:03:45.960 I have realized that that 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.701 has come through in my own life of like, 00:03:48.282 --> 00:03:50.623 I can be whoever I want to be. 00:03:51.403 --> 00:03:52.685 And so that's how I've 00:03:52.745 --> 00:03:54.786 reclaimed Barbie for me. 00:03:54.887 --> 00:03:56.367 And seeing that on the big 00:03:56.427 --> 00:03:58.308 screen was very much like, yes, 00:03:58.748 --> 00:03:59.469 I am a Barbie. 00:03:59.909 --> 00:04:00.670 I am a Barbie PT. 00:04:00.691 --> 00:04:02.032 I'd say it was like the 00:04:02.072 --> 00:04:03.331 complete opposite for me though. 00:04:03.513 --> 00:04:05.014 Cause I didn't have Barbies growing up. 00:04:05.033 --> 00:04:06.133 Like my mom was like, no, 00:04:06.193 --> 00:04:08.175 like that's not like a positive thing. 00:04:09.415 --> 00:04:10.936 Also, they were expensive. 00:04:12.556 --> 00:04:13.537 So I didn't really like I 00:04:13.576 --> 00:04:14.616 might have played with them 00:04:14.637 --> 00:04:15.977 in like the church nursery 00:04:16.096 --> 00:04:17.798 or like places like that. 00:04:18.458 --> 00:04:19.117 But for me, 00:04:19.197 --> 00:04:21.697 like I never really felt like a 00:04:21.798 --> 00:04:23.158 Barbie girl because I never 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:24.358 really felt like I fit in. 00:04:24.819 --> 00:04:25.899 And I definitely was never 00:04:25.939 --> 00:04:27.278 going to like hit that aesthetic. 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:28.338 And so for me, 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.699 like Barbie was this thing 00:04:29.740 --> 00:04:31.120 that another thing that I 00:04:31.180 --> 00:04:32.079 didn't fit into. 00:04:32.180 --> 00:04:33.500 And I spent so much of my 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.461 life like feeling like I didn't fit in. 00:04:36.081 --> 00:04:36.401 And then. 00:04:37.401 --> 00:04:40.482 trying to that I spent many 00:04:40.622 --> 00:04:43.603 of my 42 years trying to 00:04:43.723 --> 00:04:45.444 blend in and fit in and not 00:04:45.483 --> 00:04:47.524 be noticed but I kind of 00:04:47.545 --> 00:04:48.504 have this personality that 00:04:48.524 --> 00:04:49.485 doesn't blend very well 00:04:49.505 --> 00:04:50.086 which I'm sure you've 00:04:50.105 --> 00:04:51.887 noticed and so for me 00:04:52.007 --> 00:04:53.406 seeing this barbie movie 00:04:53.487 --> 00:04:54.867 was like there were so many 00:04:54.947 --> 00:04:56.767 different barbies yes and 00:04:56.788 --> 00:04:58.528 that was the coolest like 00:04:58.548 --> 00:04:59.408 there were barbies of all 00:04:59.428 --> 00:05:00.470 shapes and sizes there were 00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:01.449 barbies that had brown hair 00:05:01.490 --> 00:05:02.411 there were barbies that 00:05:02.670 --> 00:05:03.610 were black there were 00:05:03.651 --> 00:05:05.591 barbies that were disabled like it was 00:05:07.156 --> 00:05:07.855 It felt good. 00:05:08.057 --> 00:05:09.117 Like it felt like you could 00:05:09.137 --> 00:05:10.538 be a part of the Barbie 00:05:10.737 --> 00:05:12.178 without being Barbie. 00:05:13.259 --> 00:05:13.639 Yes. 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.240 And I loved like the, 00:05:16.201 --> 00:05:17.281 the whole premise of like 00:05:17.422 --> 00:05:19.083 Barbies can run the world, you know? 00:05:19.262 --> 00:05:20.963 And so Elise and I have just 00:05:20.983 --> 00:05:21.985 been like on this Barbie 00:05:22.004 --> 00:05:23.725 girl PT kick that we are 00:05:23.766 --> 00:05:25.047 just Barbie PTs now. 00:05:25.107 --> 00:05:25.526 And we love it. 00:05:25.627 --> 00:05:28.588 And I also in my around age 40. 00:05:28.668 --> 00:05:29.069 So all, 00:05:29.189 --> 00:05:30.329 all those people out there who tell 00:05:30.350 --> 00:05:31.271 you like when you're 40, 00:05:31.271 --> 00:05:32.831 like your whole self-confidence changes. 00:05:32.872 --> 00:05:33.971 I think that's absolutely true. 00:05:33.992 --> 00:05:34.471 Yeah. 00:05:35.452 --> 00:05:36.954 Well, I'm not trying to fit in anymore. 00:05:38.536 --> 00:05:39.838 I've kind of accepted who I 00:05:40.057 --> 00:05:41.699 am and I'm leaning into that. 00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:43.601 And I'm like finding my 00:05:43.682 --> 00:05:45.644 identity outside of being just a mom, 00:05:45.684 --> 00:05:48.026 being just a PT, being just a wife, 00:05:48.086 --> 00:05:48.906 being just a daughter, 00:05:48.947 --> 00:05:50.369 like whatever that might be. 00:05:50.869 --> 00:05:51.911 And I'm figuring out and 00:05:51.951 --> 00:05:53.351 leaning into who I am. 00:05:53.372 --> 00:05:55.274 And Elise thinks that's some 00:05:55.314 --> 00:05:55.894 kind of Barbie. 00:05:58.305 --> 00:06:00.206 I heard this just the other day, and again, 00:06:00.226 --> 00:06:01.026 I'm very good with quotes, 00:06:01.047 --> 00:06:02.408 but bad at remembering who said it, 00:06:02.447 --> 00:06:03.367 but they said you can't 00:06:04.269 --> 00:06:05.930 blend in and stand out. 00:06:05.970 --> 00:06:07.610 You can't stand out at blending in. 00:06:08.130 --> 00:06:09.971 Those two things are in juxtaposition. 00:06:10.673 --> 00:06:12.033 So we'll go back to Elise, 00:06:12.252 --> 00:06:13.053 and then you guys are 00:06:13.074 --> 00:06:14.035 giving me some things to 00:06:14.095 --> 00:06:15.995 think about and potentially do. 00:06:16.755 --> 00:06:18.959 So why did you say I want to 00:06:19.019 --> 00:06:20.641 guest on another podcast every month? 00:06:20.721 --> 00:06:21.721 Why was that a goal? 00:06:21.742 --> 00:06:22.983 That's a great tangible. 00:06:23.004 --> 00:06:25.005 That's a task or that's an action. 00:06:25.406 --> 00:06:26.648 But how did that fit in your structure? 00:06:26.668 --> 00:06:27.127 Why? 00:06:27.189 --> 00:06:28.189 What's the point? 00:06:28.209 --> 00:06:29.151 Tell them about the vision. 00:06:29.350 --> 00:06:30.512 Tell them about the keystone. 00:06:30.913 --> 00:06:31.694 Tell them about that. 00:06:31.874 --> 00:06:33.096 It's an awesome important part. 00:06:33.656 --> 00:06:34.177 Oh my God. 00:06:34.197 --> 00:06:36.838 All of a sudden I'm getting 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:37.658 sweaty because I'm getting 00:06:37.699 --> 00:06:39.401 put on the spot in a good way by Rebecca. 00:06:40.420 --> 00:06:42.663 I want to be the premier 00:06:42.843 --> 00:06:44.043 physical therapist. 00:06:44.485 --> 00:06:45.985 When you think of oncology, 00:06:46.026 --> 00:06:48.788 you think of me as a destination, 00:06:48.827 --> 00:06:50.528 a one-stop shop for getting 00:06:50.750 --> 00:06:52.011 the most accurate 00:06:52.370 --> 00:06:53.591 information that you can 00:06:53.632 --> 00:06:54.992 compassionately implement 00:06:55.173 --> 00:06:56.293 with your patients. 00:06:56.814 --> 00:06:59.396 And so for me, in order to increase my, 00:07:00.216 --> 00:07:02.699 That awareness of what I do 00:07:03.038 --> 00:07:04.519 is leveraging other 00:07:04.579 --> 00:07:07.983 people's audiences so that I can say, hey, 00:07:08.502 --> 00:07:09.023 this is me. 00:07:09.084 --> 00:07:09.824 This is what I do. 00:07:09.884 --> 00:07:10.985 This is how I am going to 00:07:11.024 --> 00:07:12.886 help you better help your 00:07:12.906 --> 00:07:14.307 patients that you're already seeing. 00:07:14.708 --> 00:07:17.389 And so this was one way in 00:07:17.449 --> 00:07:18.870 which I can increase that 00:07:19.411 --> 00:07:21.533 awareness without having to 00:07:21.572 --> 00:07:23.494 go out and build a whole 00:07:24.033 --> 00:07:26.355 nother audience of people, you know, 00:07:26.396 --> 00:07:27.317 for my podcast. 00:07:27.336 --> 00:07:27.557 Yeah. 00:07:28.341 --> 00:07:29.322 Just changing the world. 00:07:29.824 --> 00:07:31.946 Just changing like she just 00:07:31.985 --> 00:07:32.745 picked a corner of the 00:07:32.766 --> 00:07:33.326 world and she's like, 00:07:33.346 --> 00:07:34.007 I'm going to change it. 00:07:34.267 --> 00:07:36.250 Now let's play verbal tennis, right? 00:07:36.610 --> 00:07:38.091 Verbal tennis is where like fast. 00:07:38.232 --> 00:07:38.833 All right. 00:07:38.932 --> 00:07:39.913 So does this mean you think 00:07:39.934 --> 00:07:41.595 you're the world's best oncology PT? 00:07:41.615 --> 00:07:42.375 Is that what you're saying? 00:07:42.997 --> 00:07:43.117 No. 00:07:43.617 --> 00:07:43.778 No. 00:07:44.117 --> 00:07:45.218 But you want it to be known 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.060 as someone who this is my jam. 00:07:48.290 --> 00:07:49.391 And that's probably not easy 00:07:49.430 --> 00:07:51.711 to do because by stepping out, 00:07:51.771 --> 00:07:53.451 some people might take shots at me like, 00:07:53.471 --> 00:07:54.372 who does she think she is? 00:07:54.992 --> 00:07:55.771 That never goes away. 00:07:56.091 --> 00:07:57.192 Oh, there are people that do that. 00:07:57.233 --> 00:07:57.892 Believe both of us. 00:07:58.773 --> 00:07:59.093 Oh, yeah. 00:07:59.213 --> 00:08:01.473 No, I get that all the time. 00:08:01.773 --> 00:08:02.052 Yeah, well, 00:08:02.072 --> 00:08:03.613 I watched your podcast eight years ago. 00:08:03.653 --> 00:08:04.413 I got, who the hell? 00:08:04.473 --> 00:08:05.233 You're a student. 00:08:05.394 --> 00:08:06.574 Who the hell do you think you are? 00:08:06.613 --> 00:08:07.913 And I was like, oh, maybe you're right. 00:08:08.293 --> 00:08:09.014 And other people were like, 00:08:09.274 --> 00:08:09.935 you're a guy asking 00:08:09.975 --> 00:08:10.935 questions and you don't 00:08:10.954 --> 00:08:11.735 need permission to do that. 00:08:12.495 --> 00:08:14.035 So what's the next step then? 00:08:14.194 --> 00:08:15.475 So guesting on other 00:08:15.495 --> 00:08:17.096 people's podcasts is a great step. 00:08:17.930 --> 00:08:18.891 What else does this look like? 00:08:18.911 --> 00:08:19.850 What does success look like? 00:08:20.271 --> 00:08:21.973 Or did I go back for just a second? 00:08:23.293 --> 00:08:24.995 So when you asked her that question, 00:08:25.035 --> 00:08:25.956 does she think she's the 00:08:25.995 --> 00:08:27.617 world's best oncology PT? 00:08:28.096 --> 00:08:29.257 That's not what she's saying at all. 00:08:29.298 --> 00:08:30.939 What I hear her saying is, 00:08:31.860 --> 00:08:33.740 I want to help people in 00:08:33.780 --> 00:08:36.562 the world provide optimal 00:08:36.602 --> 00:08:38.565 care for this patient population, 00:08:39.024 --> 00:08:39.985 and I want to be the one 00:08:40.025 --> 00:08:41.047 that helps build that. 00:08:41.726 --> 00:08:42.827 And I want to be the one 00:08:43.128 --> 00:08:44.489 that supports people who 00:08:44.909 --> 00:08:46.130 also want to do that. 00:08:46.650 --> 00:08:48.231 So what she's saying is not 00:08:48.292 --> 00:08:49.312 only does she believe in 00:08:49.352 --> 00:08:50.453 this patient population, 00:08:50.634 --> 00:08:51.735 but she believes we need to 00:08:51.774 --> 00:08:53.015 level up and she's 00:08:53.155 --> 00:08:54.517 committed to doing that work. 00:08:54.878 --> 00:08:55.879 Is she saying she's the best? 00:08:55.899 --> 00:08:56.239 No, 00:08:56.359 --> 00:08:57.740 she's saying I'm committed to doing 00:08:57.759 --> 00:08:58.159 this work. 00:08:58.299 --> 00:08:59.041 I'm going to build it. 00:08:59.100 --> 00:08:59.981 People are going to come and 00:09:00.022 --> 00:09:01.543 we're going to transform healthcare. 00:09:01.743 --> 00:09:02.583 Who's coming with me. 00:09:02.683 --> 00:09:04.105 This is the Jerry Maguire. 00:09:04.485 --> 00:09:05.746 This is the grab the goldfish. 00:09:06.407 --> 00:09:09.188 Lisa, are you too young for Jerry Maguire? 00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:10.009 Yes. 00:09:10.610 --> 00:09:10.649 Ew. 00:09:12.711 --> 00:09:13.711 It hurts me in my soul. 00:09:13.731 --> 00:09:15.952 This happens a lot with Elise. 00:09:16.533 --> 00:09:17.173 Sorry. 00:09:18.333 --> 00:09:20.335 It's because you seem so mature. 00:09:20.394 --> 00:09:21.975 I'm just like, she knows. 00:09:22.236 --> 00:09:22.937 That's on you. 00:09:25.322 --> 00:09:25.902 Um, all right. 00:09:26.001 --> 00:09:26.562 So let's, all right. 00:09:26.621 --> 00:09:27.402 So this is kind of fun. 00:09:27.422 --> 00:09:28.802 Cause Rebecca does sort of like, 00:09:29.163 --> 00:09:29.802 what do you call it? 00:09:29.863 --> 00:09:30.923 Life coaching or goal? 00:09:31.043 --> 00:09:31.743 What would you call it? 00:09:31.763 --> 00:09:33.524 Professional development planning. 00:09:33.543 --> 00:09:34.224 That sounds okay. 00:09:34.244 --> 00:09:34.844 That sounds better. 00:09:35.104 --> 00:09:35.803 Cause I feel like life 00:09:35.844 --> 00:09:37.065 coaching sounds a little froofy, 00:09:37.225 --> 00:09:37.924 but life coaching and 00:09:37.965 --> 00:09:39.404 professional development, they're kind of, 00:09:39.445 --> 00:09:40.945 they're similar, maybe not the same, 00:09:40.985 --> 00:09:42.206 but like the goal is how do 00:09:42.225 --> 00:09:43.525 I get this person to do the 00:09:43.566 --> 00:09:45.405 thing in five years that 00:09:45.426 --> 00:09:46.886 they want to do now? 00:09:47.246 --> 00:09:48.187 How do I get them to be that 00:09:48.226 --> 00:09:48.966 person in five years? 00:09:49.326 --> 00:09:51.087 Have I ever, have I ever shown you my, my, 00:09:51.248 --> 00:09:52.347 my, the pyramid that I stole? 00:09:54.030 --> 00:09:54.811 Stole a pyramid from a 00:09:54.971 --> 00:09:56.392 really expensive consulting company. 00:09:56.412 --> 00:09:57.072 It's on their website. 00:09:57.212 --> 00:09:57.753 I just stole it. 00:09:57.972 --> 00:09:58.293 Here it is. 00:09:58.894 --> 00:09:59.953 Sorry, it covers up Rebecca's face. 00:10:00.174 --> 00:10:00.674 Here it is. 00:10:01.075 --> 00:10:02.235 So this is from this company 00:10:02.255 --> 00:10:03.096 called Bain & Company. 00:10:03.115 --> 00:10:04.437 They're one of those consulting firms. 00:10:05.216 --> 00:10:07.619 You are an organization and you need help. 00:10:07.678 --> 00:10:08.719 You hire a consulting firm. 00:10:08.938 --> 00:10:09.860 You pay them lots of money 00:10:10.139 --> 00:10:10.740 for them to come in, 00:10:10.941 --> 00:10:11.541 tell you what's wrong. 00:10:13.052 --> 00:10:13.793 then tell you what to do. 00:10:13.832 --> 00:10:14.493 And then a lot of times 00:10:14.552 --> 00:10:15.553 companies just don't do it. 00:10:15.653 --> 00:10:16.455 It's so funny. 00:10:16.495 --> 00:10:17.654 It's like therapy for companies. 00:10:18.076 --> 00:10:18.436 Well, anyway, 00:10:18.456 --> 00:10:19.297 what's on the screen right now, 00:10:19.336 --> 00:10:20.998 if you're watching a live stream, 00:10:21.097 --> 00:10:24.701 is there 32 elements of value. 00:10:24.900 --> 00:10:26.022 This essentially is their 00:10:26.081 --> 00:10:29.403 periodic table of what 00:10:30.264 --> 00:10:31.625 people will value in a 00:10:31.725 --> 00:10:32.625 product or a service. 00:10:33.106 --> 00:10:34.307 And let me give it some context. 00:10:34.447 --> 00:10:35.368 So on the screen, 00:10:35.548 --> 00:10:36.528 it's set up like a pyramid. 00:10:37.110 --> 00:10:38.850 It's broken into four sections, functional, 00:10:38.910 --> 00:10:39.871 emotional, life-changing, 00:10:39.912 --> 00:10:41.253 and social impact. 00:10:42.642 --> 00:10:43.523 And the idea is, 00:10:44.884 --> 00:10:46.365 what does your product or service have, 00:10:46.384 --> 00:10:48.947 and then I like to chime in, 00:10:49.226 --> 00:10:50.327 and what also are you 00:10:50.427 --> 00:10:51.288 communicating to your 00:10:51.328 --> 00:10:52.450 audience that you have? 00:10:52.570 --> 00:10:53.389 Because if you have it and 00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:54.630 don't communicate it, it doesn't matter. 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.292 If you communicate it and don't have it, 00:10:56.312 --> 00:10:57.013 people are going to come 00:10:57.072 --> 00:10:57.754 and be disappointed. 00:10:57.994 --> 00:10:59.394 So both need to happen. 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:04.782 The product that checks the 00:11:04.841 --> 00:11:06.962 most boxes on this pyramid, 00:11:07.383 --> 00:11:08.602 would you have any guesses? 00:11:08.984 --> 00:11:10.504 It's a very popular product 00:11:10.864 --> 00:11:12.524 that a lot of people own, 00:11:12.565 --> 00:11:13.365 myself included. 00:11:13.904 --> 00:11:15.125 What is the thing that 00:11:15.166 --> 00:11:16.926 checks the most periodic, 00:11:17.125 --> 00:11:18.726 the elements of the B2C, 00:11:18.986 --> 00:11:21.008 business to consumer, value pyramid? 00:11:21.128 --> 00:11:21.988 Any ideas what it is? 00:11:24.129 --> 00:11:24.668 Communication. 00:11:25.287 --> 00:11:25.547 No, no, no. 00:11:25.606 --> 00:11:26.107 It's a product, 00:11:26.128 --> 00:11:27.269 like a thing you actually got. 00:11:27.749 --> 00:11:28.149 Product. 00:11:28.409 --> 00:11:28.889 A thing. 00:11:29.431 --> 00:11:29.671 Yeah. 00:11:29.870 --> 00:11:30.611 It's this thing right here. 00:11:31.192 --> 00:11:31.653 It's the iPhone. 00:11:32.312 --> 00:11:33.615 They said the iPhone checks 00:11:33.674 --> 00:11:35.917 the most boxes in actually 00:11:35.976 --> 00:11:37.177 providing the values that 00:11:37.197 --> 00:11:38.019 are found on this pyramid. 00:11:38.239 --> 00:11:39.580 So you can start from the bottom. 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:41.341 Does an iPhone inform you? 00:11:41.461 --> 00:11:41.621 Yeah. 00:11:41.662 --> 00:11:42.383 Notifications. 00:11:42.423 --> 00:11:43.244 It lets me reach out to them. 00:11:43.524 --> 00:11:44.244 Sensory appeal. 00:11:44.365 --> 00:11:45.546 Steve Jobs was important in that. 00:11:45.586 --> 00:11:46.225 There's haptics. 00:11:46.285 --> 00:11:46.886 It looks pretty. 00:11:47.287 --> 00:11:47.447 Right. 00:11:47.527 --> 00:11:48.008 Variety. 00:11:48.548 --> 00:11:48.729 Apps. 00:11:49.308 --> 00:11:50.870 It not only does one thing, a phone, 00:11:50.970 --> 00:11:52.571 not only texting, it does a good, 00:11:52.671 --> 00:11:53.672 it pretty much does everything. 00:11:54.032 --> 00:11:55.913 Quality, Steve Jobs was important on that. 00:11:56.333 --> 00:11:57.514 Reduces costs. 00:11:57.835 --> 00:11:59.696 Well, you know, now you can start to like, 00:11:59.716 --> 00:12:01.216 you can get into, well, it's sort of, 00:12:01.256 --> 00:12:01.677 blah, blah, blah. 00:12:01.897 --> 00:12:02.398 Now remember, 00:12:02.518 --> 00:12:04.198 I'll do this exercise with organizations. 00:12:05.250 --> 00:12:06.350 I'll break their board or 00:12:06.370 --> 00:12:07.471 somebody up into groups of 00:12:07.510 --> 00:12:08.511 two or three and I'll go, hey, 00:12:08.552 --> 00:12:09.111 have fun with it. 00:12:09.451 --> 00:12:10.173 Here's a pyramid. 00:12:10.472 --> 00:12:11.813 Circle every one of these things. 00:12:11.854 --> 00:12:12.573 And a lot of people get, 00:12:12.673 --> 00:12:13.534 they get circle happy. 00:12:13.855 --> 00:12:14.595 They start circling. 00:12:15.456 --> 00:12:16.316 And I go around the room and I go, 00:12:16.395 --> 00:12:17.557 how many are on your list? 00:12:17.636 --> 00:12:18.236 How many on your list? 00:12:19.057 --> 00:12:20.238 And then I finally put up 00:12:20.258 --> 00:12:21.259 the big list on the screen. 00:12:21.298 --> 00:12:21.739 I go, great. 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:22.659 Now we're going to open your website. 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.301 We're going to go to your Instagram page. 00:12:24.441 --> 00:12:25.301 We're going to go to your YouTube. 00:12:25.681 --> 00:12:27.562 Show me where you do this. 00:12:28.523 --> 00:12:29.523 Then show me where and when 00:12:29.543 --> 00:12:30.443 you communicate this. 00:12:30.524 --> 00:12:31.364 And that's when we get what 00:12:31.384 --> 00:12:32.225 I call rhubarb. 00:12:33.125 --> 00:12:34.066 Have you ever heard of rhubarb? 00:12:35.215 --> 00:12:37.155 On a movie set, people in the background, 00:12:37.275 --> 00:12:38.155 background actors, 00:12:38.697 --> 00:12:39.677 they have to actually be 00:12:39.716 --> 00:12:41.817 talking to create that sort of din, 00:12:41.937 --> 00:12:43.057 that noise in the background. 00:12:43.077 --> 00:12:44.339 They can't be saying things 00:12:44.359 --> 00:12:44.979 because then the audience 00:12:45.139 --> 00:12:45.879 would pick up on the mic. 00:12:46.419 --> 00:12:47.360 So background actors are 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:48.120 taught to say the word 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.041 rhubarb over and over and 00:12:49.061 --> 00:12:50.120 over again because it kind 00:12:50.140 --> 00:12:50.780 of sounds like nothing. 00:12:51.322 --> 00:12:51.761 I learned this. 00:12:52.101 --> 00:12:52.721 I learned random things. 00:12:53.481 --> 00:12:55.082 So it's when you ask a room 00:12:55.102 --> 00:12:56.124 full of students a question 00:12:56.344 --> 00:12:57.583 and they're like, do you know the answer? 00:12:57.663 --> 00:13:00.245 And they start to sort of say, rhubarb, 00:13:00.284 --> 00:13:00.945 rhubarb, rhubarb. 00:13:01.806 --> 00:13:02.806 They're not saying anything. 00:13:03.567 --> 00:13:04.366 That's what happens. 00:13:05.485 --> 00:13:05.745 People, 00:13:05.905 --> 00:13:07.527 they think that there's a value there. 00:13:09.349 --> 00:13:10.529 Like, I feel this value. 00:13:10.629 --> 00:13:11.811 I think, I'm like, great, where is it? 00:13:12.150 --> 00:13:14.153 Well, you sort of just got to, nope, 00:13:14.173 --> 00:13:14.673 that's not how it works. 00:13:15.173 --> 00:13:16.294 If the value isn't there. 00:13:17.375 --> 00:13:18.697 So the reason I bring this up is like, 00:13:18.716 --> 00:13:22.581 Elise, you are the product of the OncoPT. 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.120 Not now, because we're live right now. 00:13:26.921 --> 00:13:28.020 I would suggest taking a 00:13:28.041 --> 00:13:30.361 look at this and just Google B, 00:13:30.741 --> 00:13:32.383 the number, letter B, the number two, 00:13:32.403 --> 00:13:33.582 the letter C, value pyramid. 00:13:33.602 --> 00:13:34.224 And you'll get this. 00:13:34.403 --> 00:13:35.264 With an explainer, 00:13:35.303 --> 00:13:36.464 their website's actually interactive. 00:13:36.484 --> 00:13:37.725 So you can click on each one 00:13:37.745 --> 00:13:39.885 of these circles and it'll 00:13:39.905 --> 00:13:41.326 give you examples of a 00:13:41.426 --> 00:13:42.246 product that you've heard 00:13:42.346 --> 00:13:43.667 of that demonstrates each 00:13:43.746 --> 00:13:45.008 one of these 32 elements. 00:13:45.687 --> 00:13:46.768 And like the big one on top, 00:13:46.788 --> 00:13:47.629 self-transcendence. 00:13:47.688 --> 00:13:48.568 It's like, what is that? 00:13:49.048 --> 00:13:51.049 Their example for that is Tom's Shoes. 00:13:52.365 --> 00:13:54.086 By buying a pair of Tom's shoes, 00:13:54.386 --> 00:13:55.767 you feel like you are helping society. 00:13:55.966 --> 00:13:56.648 You are a part of that. 00:13:56.707 --> 00:13:57.307 You started it. 00:13:57.347 --> 00:13:59.009 You bought the shoes and Tom's shoes. 00:13:59.229 --> 00:13:59.948 When you buy a pair, 00:14:00.048 --> 00:14:00.788 they give away a pair. 00:14:01.929 --> 00:14:03.230 That's why Tom's shoes keeps 00:14:03.250 --> 00:14:03.870 getting talked about 00:14:03.909 --> 00:14:05.211 because that Bombas socks 00:14:05.510 --> 00:14:06.211 is another example. 00:14:06.291 --> 00:14:06.951 Buy a pair of socks. 00:14:06.991 --> 00:14:07.892 Do you have Bombas socks? 00:14:07.912 --> 00:14:11.033 Is that why you're... Here's the thing. 00:14:11.754 --> 00:14:12.933 You need to be able to have 00:14:12.974 --> 00:14:14.754 these values and you need 00:14:14.774 --> 00:14:15.575 to be regularly 00:14:15.634 --> 00:14:17.076 communicating those values. 00:14:17.375 --> 00:14:18.275 You don't have to say, 00:14:18.296 --> 00:14:20.317 I have heirloom value 00:14:20.984 --> 00:14:22.326 But you need to demonstrate 00:14:23.047 --> 00:14:24.908 why... Rolex watch. 00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:27.591 This is a thing. 00:14:27.832 --> 00:14:28.173 Oh, no. 00:14:28.232 --> 00:14:30.275 It goes in the safe deposit box. 00:14:30.716 --> 00:14:32.498 We don't just... This is the good China. 00:14:33.038 --> 00:14:33.840 That's heirloom. 00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:35.121 So that's life-changing. 00:14:35.442 --> 00:14:36.202 Motivation. 00:14:37.445 --> 00:14:38.265 My Apple watch... 00:14:39.533 --> 00:14:40.595 dings at me when I haven't 00:14:40.615 --> 00:14:41.336 stood up in an hour. 00:14:41.756 --> 00:14:42.717 It tells me when I've got 00:14:42.817 --> 00:14:44.080 five hours left in my day 00:14:44.620 --> 00:14:46.643 and I'm X number of movement points, 00:14:46.864 --> 00:14:47.344 which I don't even know 00:14:47.364 --> 00:14:48.927 what they are short of my goal. 00:14:49.427 --> 00:14:50.448 So there's motivation. 00:14:51.009 --> 00:14:53.552 So this also goes into my, 00:14:53.732 --> 00:14:55.215 from my talk that I did CSM 00:14:55.294 --> 00:14:56.557 features versus benefits. 00:14:57.990 --> 00:14:59.730 A feature is the watch is 30 00:14:59.730 --> 00:15:01.030 millimeters and the battery 00:15:01.091 --> 00:15:03.211 has X number of watts and whatever. 00:15:03.591 --> 00:15:06.113 But the benefit is it provides motivation. 00:15:06.893 --> 00:15:08.673 It has sensory appeal. 00:15:08.813 --> 00:15:09.653 It informs me. 00:15:10.374 --> 00:15:12.554 So my question, the reason I bring this up, 00:15:12.615 --> 00:15:13.115 and it sounds like I'm 00:15:13.154 --> 00:15:14.196 going on a random tangent, 00:15:14.296 --> 00:15:15.635 which is essentially how I talk. 00:15:16.735 --> 00:15:18.297 But I think by identifying 00:15:18.356 --> 00:15:19.437 the things that Elise 00:15:19.496 --> 00:15:21.798 brings to get there are 00:15:21.857 --> 00:15:23.119 tangible ways of making 00:15:23.158 --> 00:15:24.538 sure you're providing those things, 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:26.379 saying what you want to provide. 00:15:27.317 --> 00:15:28.318 Because what Elise is trying 00:15:28.339 --> 00:15:28.798 to say is like, 00:15:28.899 --> 00:15:30.779 I'm going to be the OncoPT. 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:32.941 And you did when you named yourself that, 00:15:33.121 --> 00:15:33.881 when you decided. 00:15:34.662 --> 00:15:35.243 Now, 00:15:36.043 --> 00:15:37.403 we got to work backwards on what 00:15:37.464 --> 00:15:38.644 values you provide. 00:15:38.865 --> 00:15:39.664 Make sure that they are. 00:15:39.745 --> 00:15:41.145 When someone lands on your website, 00:15:41.166 --> 00:15:42.866 they're like, I got what she's about. 00:15:43.248 --> 00:15:43.687 I get it. 00:15:44.405 --> 00:15:47.187 And then what you communicate, 00:15:47.246 --> 00:15:49.408 what you post and share gets real easy. 00:15:49.567 --> 00:15:50.648 Or I should say simple. 00:15:51.187 --> 00:15:52.688 It's like, I need to provide this. 00:15:53.229 --> 00:15:55.188 So this is an exercise we should do. 00:15:55.249 --> 00:15:56.690 Probably not on the live 00:15:56.710 --> 00:15:57.470 stream because it really is 00:15:57.529 --> 00:15:58.490 dry erase boardy. 00:15:59.030 --> 00:16:00.471 But I like this value pyramid. 00:16:00.530 --> 00:16:01.130 I bring this up. 00:16:01.191 --> 00:16:02.331 It's why it's always handy. 00:16:03.812 --> 00:16:04.511 When someone tells me 00:16:04.552 --> 00:16:05.613 something about their product or service, 00:16:05.633 --> 00:16:06.732 I'm like, I didn't get that vibe. 00:16:06.753 --> 00:16:07.533 I'm like, oh, of course. 00:16:07.592 --> 00:16:08.312 Of course that's in there. 00:16:08.332 --> 00:16:08.953 I go, not of course. 00:16:08.974 --> 00:16:09.754 Please stop saying of course. 00:16:10.514 --> 00:16:11.234 If I don't see it, 00:16:11.714 --> 00:16:12.475 it means a lot of people 00:16:12.495 --> 00:16:13.294 probably aren't seeing it. 00:16:14.035 --> 00:16:15.596 Unless I'm, well, if you're in the club, 00:16:15.636 --> 00:16:16.977 if you subscribe to my newsletter, 00:16:17.018 --> 00:16:17.398 you get it. 00:16:17.518 --> 00:16:17.638 Great. 00:16:17.658 --> 00:16:18.599 I'm going to subscribe right now. 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.500 If I don't feel it in two newsletters, 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:21.041 I'm out. 00:16:21.181 --> 00:16:21.760 I unsubscribe. 00:16:21.780 --> 00:16:22.322 I never come back. 00:16:23.182 --> 00:16:24.763 This is where people are confused. 00:16:24.842 --> 00:16:25.322 I don't know. 00:16:25.604 --> 00:16:27.424 I provide so much value. 00:16:27.585 --> 00:16:27.804 Do you? 00:16:28.446 --> 00:16:29.066 Which values? 00:16:29.385 --> 00:16:30.826 Which values do you provide? 00:16:30.846 --> 00:16:32.087 Because a combination of 00:16:32.128 --> 00:16:33.928 values added together makes 00:16:33.969 --> 00:16:35.110 me not think twice about 00:16:35.149 --> 00:16:36.671 spending a thousand bucks on the iPhone. 00:16:36.910 --> 00:16:39.212 Not even, I spend a thousand. 00:16:39.232 --> 00:16:41.114 I feel like I got $5,000 worth of value. 00:16:41.234 --> 00:16:42.174 Go a day without this. 00:16:42.455 --> 00:16:42.735 Good luck. 00:16:43.602 --> 00:16:44.283 Whenever they're trying to 00:16:44.322 --> 00:16:45.443 sell me a new phone, they always say, 00:16:45.464 --> 00:16:46.943 how many times do you use this per day? 00:16:46.964 --> 00:16:49.225 And I'm like, a lot. 00:16:49.404 --> 00:16:49.884 And they're like, 00:16:49.924 --> 00:16:51.125 now divide out what you're 00:16:51.145 --> 00:16:52.785 spending on that by that minute. 00:16:52.846 --> 00:16:53.927 And you're like, oh, 00:16:53.947 --> 00:16:55.206 I'm paying pennies for this thing. 00:16:55.307 --> 00:16:56.347 Yeah, obviously. 00:16:58.368 --> 00:16:58.808 Well, Elyse, 00:16:58.969 --> 00:17:01.048 I want to know more about 00:17:02.370 --> 00:17:05.351 where you're going and what you set up. 00:17:05.371 --> 00:17:06.351 Tell us about the plan. 00:17:06.371 --> 00:17:09.892 Because you've now Q1 been accountable, 00:17:09.912 --> 00:17:10.192 right? 00:17:10.292 --> 00:17:11.012 So what's next? 00:17:12.753 --> 00:17:15.036 So what I've been so kind of 00:17:15.135 --> 00:17:18.939 like where that kicks off is for in Q4, 00:17:18.959 --> 00:17:21.601 I have the second cancer 00:17:21.622 --> 00:17:22.843 rehab community conference 00:17:22.883 --> 00:17:24.003 that I'm hosting that I 00:17:24.044 --> 00:17:24.963 started last year. 00:17:25.565 --> 00:17:26.726 And so, you know, 00:17:26.746 --> 00:17:28.346 this brand awareness that 00:17:28.366 --> 00:17:29.887 I'm curating now throughout 00:17:29.969 --> 00:17:32.069 the year is helping get 00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:34.231 people understanding like, oh, 00:17:34.592 --> 00:17:36.894 cancer rehab, OncoPT is a thing. 00:17:37.414 --> 00:17:38.315 Patients need help. 00:17:39.175 --> 00:17:41.356 oh I can help with that oh 00:17:41.698 --> 00:17:42.758 here's the place to go 00:17:42.817 --> 00:17:43.578 where I'm going to learn 00:17:43.598 --> 00:17:46.800 more on how to do that so 00:17:46.881 --> 00:17:51.262 that's kind of my big what 00:17:51.303 --> 00:17:52.304 else is on the action list 00:17:52.384 --> 00:17:53.544 for you are there things on 00:17:53.564 --> 00:17:55.526 the action list for you you 00:17:55.546 --> 00:17:56.226 don't have to say all of 00:17:56.266 --> 00:17:57.287 them just I mean what's 00:17:57.307 --> 00:18:00.127 yeah the things yeah so we 00:18:00.488 --> 00:18:01.548 right now like personally 00:18:01.648 --> 00:18:02.348 and I'm not going to give 00:18:02.368 --> 00:18:03.349 numbers because some of 00:18:03.369 --> 00:18:04.490 this is like a little bit of secret 00:18:05.510 --> 00:18:07.392 I have X number of sponsors 00:18:07.731 --> 00:18:09.053 that I'm working on getting 00:18:09.373 --> 00:18:10.413 this year for the conference. 00:18:10.593 --> 00:18:12.473 I have X number and I'll say 00:18:12.493 --> 00:18:13.054 this one out there. 00:18:13.335 --> 00:18:14.934 I want to get my big, hairy, 00:18:15.055 --> 00:18:17.215 audacious goal for 2024. 00:18:17.215 --> 00:18:18.036 And this is also going to 00:18:18.076 --> 00:18:19.057 help me be accountable to 00:18:19.096 --> 00:18:21.958 this is I want 250 cancer 00:18:21.978 --> 00:18:23.358 rehab professionals or 00:18:23.398 --> 00:18:24.419 rehab professionals. 00:18:24.439 --> 00:18:25.240 They don't have to be cancer 00:18:25.259 --> 00:18:26.059 rehab specifically. 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.340 I want 250 rehab 00:18:28.401 --> 00:18:30.162 professionals to register 00:18:30.201 --> 00:18:31.123 for the Cancer Rehab 00:18:31.143 --> 00:18:33.223 Community Conference 2024. 00:18:33.223 --> 00:18:35.105 And there are specific steps 00:18:35.625 --> 00:18:37.487 and milestones that I am 00:18:38.247 --> 00:18:39.147 going towards throughout 00:18:39.188 --> 00:18:40.188 this year to make that happen. 00:18:41.648 --> 00:18:42.148 I love that. 00:18:42.348 --> 00:18:44.931 I have a gross question for 00:18:44.951 --> 00:18:45.912 you that you're going to 00:18:45.971 --> 00:18:48.752 hate me for asking. 00:18:48.873 --> 00:18:50.213 I hear all these wonderful 00:18:50.233 --> 00:18:50.875 things that you're doing 00:18:50.894 --> 00:18:51.515 for other people. 00:18:52.704 --> 00:18:54.125 But what on this plan is for 00:18:54.145 --> 00:18:55.925 yourself to help develop 00:18:56.006 --> 00:18:57.386 you into a better therapist, 00:18:57.406 --> 00:18:58.547 to help develop you into 00:18:58.586 --> 00:18:59.507 the person that you want to 00:18:59.527 --> 00:19:00.928 be and to help develop you 00:19:00.988 --> 00:19:02.769 into where you want to be in that five, 00:19:02.769 --> 00:19:03.388 10 year range, 00:19:03.828 --> 00:19:05.730 because you are an onco PT. 00:19:05.769 --> 00:19:07.190 You are the onco PT, 00:19:07.250 --> 00:19:08.691 but you're also Elise. 00:19:09.131 --> 00:19:10.191 So I want to know where that 00:19:10.330 --> 00:19:11.971 flow is on your side, 00:19:12.192 --> 00:19:12.971 because when we talk about 00:19:13.011 --> 00:19:14.093 professional development, 00:19:14.232 --> 00:19:16.113 that also includes your development. 00:19:16.634 --> 00:19:18.513 So I want to know kind of from that side, 00:19:18.693 --> 00:19:20.275 what's on that plan for you, friend? 00:19:23.648 --> 00:19:24.549 It's okay not to know. 00:19:25.810 --> 00:19:26.151 Yeah. 00:19:26.171 --> 00:19:27.172 It should be on the plan, though. 00:19:27.672 --> 00:19:30.173 It should be on the plan. 00:19:30.294 --> 00:19:31.474 I run into this, too, which is like, 00:19:31.494 --> 00:19:33.096 you ever hear of the cobbler's son? 00:19:33.115 --> 00:19:34.896 It's like the shoemaker's 00:19:34.936 --> 00:19:36.137 son often has no shoes. 00:19:36.377 --> 00:19:37.618 It's like you're thinking 00:19:37.659 --> 00:19:39.119 about creating things for everybody else. 00:19:39.539 --> 00:19:40.661 When Rebecca asks you what's 00:19:40.681 --> 00:19:42.082 your plan on you, you're like, well, 00:19:42.701 --> 00:19:43.123 I don't know. 00:19:44.243 --> 00:19:45.104 And I fall into this trap, 00:19:45.124 --> 00:19:46.384 which is why it's easy for me to spot. 00:19:46.404 --> 00:19:48.826 It's the cobbler's son has no shoes. 00:19:49.501 --> 00:19:50.722 But I think we all do, right? 00:19:50.762 --> 00:19:52.103 Which is why when I talk to 00:19:52.144 --> 00:19:53.564 people about making this 00:19:53.723 --> 00:19:54.845 professional development plan, 00:19:54.865 --> 00:19:56.445 that it has to include their life too. 00:19:56.965 --> 00:19:57.886 And it has to include the 00:19:57.987 --> 00:19:58.727 flow between them. 00:19:58.787 --> 00:20:00.127 I don't really believe in balance. 00:20:00.387 --> 00:20:01.548 I believe in flow. 00:20:02.509 --> 00:20:04.590 And to develop yourself as a professional, 00:20:04.631 --> 00:20:06.451 you just also have to develop yourself. 00:20:06.592 --> 00:20:07.731 So that's what I want to 00:20:07.912 --> 00:20:08.732 challenge you a little bit 00:20:08.792 --> 00:20:09.573 on with that plan because 00:20:09.613 --> 00:20:10.693 you're crushing the rest of it. 00:20:11.453 --> 00:20:12.115 But where's Elise? 00:20:13.378 --> 00:20:14.900 I think where, 00:20:15.740 --> 00:20:17.082 so I actually sat down with 00:20:17.142 --> 00:20:18.262 my husband to do this plan. 00:20:18.282 --> 00:20:19.423 Like we did it separately 00:20:19.443 --> 00:20:21.005 and then we came together to do it. 00:20:21.526 --> 00:20:22.926 And I think where that 00:20:23.326 --> 00:20:25.368 Elise's is in the together 00:20:25.509 --> 00:20:26.609 because we were able to 00:20:26.650 --> 00:20:27.770 kind of like step back and be like, 00:20:27.810 --> 00:20:29.152 what do we want out of this? 00:20:29.653 --> 00:20:30.393 And so for us, 00:20:30.452 --> 00:20:31.855 a lot of it comes down to 00:20:32.434 --> 00:20:33.715 financial security. 00:20:33.796 --> 00:20:35.136 Like we want to buy a house. 00:20:35.817 --> 00:20:39.300 And so that's something that like, again, 00:20:39.340 --> 00:20:40.521 there's that flow of, 00:20:41.027 --> 00:20:42.948 What I'm doing here enables 00:20:43.248 --> 00:20:45.028 us to be able to do that. 00:20:45.108 --> 00:20:46.009 So that's a little more of 00:20:46.049 --> 00:20:47.549 like the personal side of things. 00:20:48.550 --> 00:20:49.771 I also should probably 00:20:49.832 --> 00:20:50.432 revisit more of the 00:20:50.471 --> 00:20:51.392 personal things because I'm 00:20:51.432 --> 00:20:53.534 also very good at not doing that part. 00:20:53.874 --> 00:20:54.874 Can I show you something 00:20:54.973 --> 00:20:55.994 that I just learned this 00:20:56.055 --> 00:20:57.336 morning from a guy who has 00:20:57.476 --> 00:20:59.257 shown value enough that I 00:20:59.356 --> 00:21:00.376 subscribe to his newsletter 00:21:00.396 --> 00:21:01.278 and now I actually read it? 00:21:01.298 --> 00:21:02.198 Because subscribing to a 00:21:02.238 --> 00:21:02.817 newsletter is great, 00:21:02.837 --> 00:21:03.759 but actually reading it 00:21:04.473 --> 00:21:07.000 So do you guys know a Kagan? 00:21:07.521 --> 00:21:09.267 He just wrote a book called, um, 00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:11.613 million dollar weekend. 00:21:13.105 --> 00:21:14.106 So he's one of these guys on 00:21:14.146 --> 00:21:15.227 Instagram or Twitter, whatever, 00:21:15.347 --> 00:21:16.048 it's a business guy. 00:21:16.288 --> 00:21:17.729 And he wrote a book called 00:21:17.769 --> 00:21:18.589 Million Dollar Weekend 00:21:18.650 --> 00:21:19.670 where he can show you how 00:21:19.690 --> 00:21:21.030 to begin a million dollar 00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:22.551 business in a weekend, blah, blah, blah. 00:21:22.612 --> 00:21:23.373 I haven't bought the book yet, 00:21:23.452 --> 00:21:24.733 but I subscribed to his newsletter. 00:21:25.374 --> 00:21:26.835 And this was his newsletter this morning. 00:21:27.174 --> 00:21:27.736 The question was, 00:21:27.855 --> 00:21:29.336 how do you manage running a 00:21:29.376 --> 00:21:30.136 successful business, 00:21:30.237 --> 00:21:31.238 writing a book and having a 00:21:31.278 --> 00:21:32.338 long distance relationship? 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:33.618 Where are your life hacks? 00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:34.640 And I love his answer. 00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:35.980 It's like, how do I do it? 00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:37.561 Short answer, not well. 00:21:37.701 --> 00:21:38.742 Long answer, it's a challenge. 00:21:39.083 --> 00:21:40.304 But I liked what he gave a 00:21:40.364 --> 00:21:41.724 tactic down here at number two. 00:21:42.345 --> 00:21:43.545 which is what you're what I 00:21:44.026 --> 00:21:44.705 some of what you're talking 00:21:44.726 --> 00:21:46.605 about he color codes he has 00:21:46.685 --> 00:21:48.386 four priorities in his life 00:21:49.126 --> 00:21:50.247 number one he said then 00:21:50.647 --> 00:21:52.748 work health personal travel 00:21:53.627 --> 00:21:54.749 does yours need to be work 00:21:54.788 --> 00:21:56.128 health personal travel no 00:21:56.788 --> 00:21:57.849 but it should it should be 00:21:58.069 --> 00:21:59.049 yours it should matter to 00:21:59.109 --> 00:22:00.691 you right and he gave each 00:22:00.750 --> 00:22:01.611 one of those things a color 00:22:01.730 --> 00:22:02.871 work is blue health is 00:22:02.931 --> 00:22:05.412 green personal is red yellow is travel 00:22:06.347 --> 00:22:08.348 And then he's able to 00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:10.451 quickly look at his schedule. 00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:11.991 And if he's like, you know, 00:22:12.011 --> 00:22:14.834 not a whole lot of green on 00:22:14.874 --> 00:22:15.914 my week this week, 00:22:16.115 --> 00:22:17.895 maybe I should invest in some green. 00:22:18.616 --> 00:22:20.657 And this little email has 00:22:20.718 --> 00:22:21.759 caused me to go back to my 00:22:21.818 --> 00:22:23.660 Google calendar and change. 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:25.201 I used to do it in a different way. 00:22:25.622 --> 00:22:27.083 I used to do like recording. 00:22:27.502 --> 00:22:28.884 Everything was red for recording. 00:22:28.923 --> 00:22:30.105 I knew when I had to be on camera. 00:22:30.922 --> 00:22:32.342 And now I'm like, oh, gosh, 00:22:32.402 --> 00:22:34.522 but how can I look at my 00:22:34.663 --> 00:22:35.824 calendar and do that? 00:22:35.923 --> 00:22:37.884 So I was hearing what you 00:22:37.903 --> 00:22:38.544 were talking about, 00:22:38.564 --> 00:22:39.585 making sure those elements 00:22:39.625 --> 00:22:40.285 were represented. 00:22:40.305 --> 00:22:41.825 And I was like, well, how do you know? 00:22:42.385 --> 00:22:42.566 Well, 00:22:42.605 --> 00:22:45.185 there's not a lot of green on Noah's 8th, 00:22:45.385 --> 00:22:46.807 9th, and 10th of March. 00:22:47.326 --> 00:22:48.386 And he knows that because he 00:22:48.426 --> 00:22:49.327 took a quick look. 00:22:49.428 --> 00:22:50.647 I am confused at what he's 00:22:50.688 --> 00:22:51.387 got gray on there. 00:22:51.407 --> 00:22:51.847 I'm like, great. 00:22:51.907 --> 00:22:52.568 Noah's not in there. 00:22:52.588 --> 00:22:53.368 Yeah. 00:22:54.227 --> 00:22:56.888 But it was a really good way 00:22:56.969 --> 00:22:58.250 to organize visual, 00:22:58.289 --> 00:23:01.413 but to not lose yourself in 00:23:01.452 --> 00:23:02.773 the minutia of your 00:23:02.814 --> 00:23:03.694 minute-to-minute life. 00:23:04.275 --> 00:23:05.135 So I thought this cool 00:23:05.195 --> 00:23:05.976 life... I don't even know 00:23:05.997 --> 00:23:07.017 if it's a life hack. 00:23:07.538 --> 00:23:09.078 I think a life hack is low 00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:10.980 bottom of the spectrum. 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.741 I think what he is highlighting is, 00:23:13.402 --> 00:23:14.403 what are the four things 00:23:14.663 --> 00:23:15.403 most important to you? 00:23:15.884 --> 00:23:17.486 Divide them into categories or five things, 00:23:17.526 --> 00:23:17.806 whatever. 00:23:18.266 --> 00:23:19.027 And then make sure that 00:23:19.047 --> 00:23:20.087 those things are in the mix, 00:23:20.627 --> 00:23:21.648 like a big old Chipotle 00:23:21.689 --> 00:23:22.369 burrito each week. 00:23:23.009 --> 00:23:24.411 I don't see no avocado in that. 00:23:24.510 --> 00:23:24.750 Great. 00:23:24.770 --> 00:23:25.791 Throw some avocado in there. 00:23:25.832 --> 00:23:26.272 That's health. 00:23:27.753 --> 00:23:28.134 And Jimmy, 00:23:28.193 --> 00:23:31.356 I like that you said in his week, right? 00:23:31.497 --> 00:23:32.637 Not in every day, 00:23:33.317 --> 00:23:35.900 but zooming out over time. 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:36.780 And I think that really 00:23:36.820 --> 00:23:38.582 glens into what Rebecca was 00:23:38.602 --> 00:23:40.163 saying about this flow, right? 00:23:40.544 --> 00:23:41.785 Not every day is going to be 00:23:41.805 --> 00:23:42.965 where you're 100%. 00:23:42.965 --> 00:23:44.666 I've checked off all the boxes, right? 00:23:44.778 --> 00:23:44.938 Right. 00:23:45.097 --> 00:23:47.078 Which also, Rebecca would like this, 00:23:47.378 --> 00:23:48.579 I read something or heard 00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:49.359 something in a podcast 00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:52.142 where I'm guilty of, I do a podcast, 00:23:52.201 --> 00:23:53.682 I do a live stream at 11, 00:23:53.682 --> 00:23:55.222 I do a meeting at 12, 00:23:55.222 --> 00:23:57.284 I do an editing session at 1. 00:23:57.284 --> 00:24:00.184 And the idea is task switching. 00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:01.885 So me switching from being 00:24:01.925 --> 00:24:02.967 on camera to being in a 00:24:03.007 --> 00:24:04.548 meeting to editing something. 00:24:04.827 --> 00:24:05.508 Those are three different 00:24:05.528 --> 00:24:06.248 parts of my brain. 00:24:06.488 --> 00:24:07.429 I do not know which parts of 00:24:07.469 --> 00:24:08.088 my brain it works, 00:24:08.469 --> 00:24:09.349 but there are three different parts. 00:24:09.910 --> 00:24:11.090 And the person speaking was 00:24:11.111 --> 00:24:11.951 an expert on sort of 00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:13.771 productivity or things like this. 00:24:13.811 --> 00:24:14.112 And he said, 00:24:14.132 --> 00:24:16.932 you lose 40% of your 00:24:16.992 --> 00:24:18.693 efficiency when I switch 00:24:18.713 --> 00:24:20.454 from being on camera to 00:24:20.515 --> 00:24:22.015 then immediately jumping into a meeting, 00:24:22.295 --> 00:24:23.036 to then immediately ending 00:24:23.056 --> 00:24:24.135 the meeting and going to edit. 00:24:24.615 --> 00:24:26.257 So that's where he had been 00:24:26.356 --> 00:24:27.537 advocating for structuring 00:24:27.897 --> 00:24:28.917 days of the week, 00:24:29.337 --> 00:24:30.338 where Mondays are my 00:24:30.398 --> 00:24:32.358 organization planning doing stuff days. 00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:33.900 Tuesdays and Thursdays are 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.020 my recording days or being 00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:37.020 on camera on a microphone, 00:24:37.241 --> 00:24:38.241 making the stuff that I make. 00:24:39.151 --> 00:24:40.412 And Wednesdays and Fridays 00:24:40.551 --> 00:24:41.451 are meeting with people 00:24:41.612 --> 00:24:42.573 because people used to be like, Jimmy, 00:24:42.593 --> 00:24:42.952 when are you free? 00:24:42.972 --> 00:24:43.713 I'm like, whatever, man, 00:24:43.733 --> 00:24:44.334 I'm accommodating. 00:24:44.354 --> 00:24:44.913 When are you free? 00:24:45.394 --> 00:24:47.194 And that would screw my day up. 00:24:47.414 --> 00:24:48.076 But I was, 00:24:48.615 --> 00:24:50.017 they weren't begging me to meet 00:24:50.076 --> 00:24:50.676 on Tuesdays. 00:24:50.836 --> 00:24:52.018 I was just saying, eh, whatever. 00:24:52.057 --> 00:24:52.637 Here's my calendar. 00:24:52.657 --> 00:24:53.259 I'm a blank. 00:24:53.358 --> 00:24:54.239 I'm a wide open canvas. 00:24:54.699 --> 00:24:55.420 That screwed me up. 00:24:55.740 --> 00:24:56.720 I changed this in the last 00:24:56.779 --> 00:24:57.681 two weeks and I like it. 00:24:58.595 --> 00:24:59.895 I've been thinking about that too, 00:25:00.276 --> 00:25:02.156 because I think you're right. 00:25:02.196 --> 00:25:03.097 Like today it's like, 00:25:03.178 --> 00:25:04.298 I have like all of these 00:25:04.337 --> 00:25:05.419 like weird little things 00:25:05.459 --> 00:25:06.278 and then trying to fit 00:25:06.318 --> 00:25:07.539 stuff in between them also 00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:08.921 doesn't work very well either. 00:25:09.080 --> 00:25:11.422 And then, but then like, you know, 00:25:11.541 --> 00:25:12.782 I came back from Boston a 00:25:12.823 --> 00:25:15.364 second time on the weekend 00:25:15.805 --> 00:25:17.586 and the three sick kids. 00:25:18.046 --> 00:25:18.266 Right. 00:25:18.365 --> 00:25:18.945 So like, 00:25:19.747 --> 00:25:21.428 just like everything I had planned, 00:25:21.448 --> 00:25:22.488 the routine I had planned 00:25:22.528 --> 00:25:23.628 and all the greatness I was 00:25:23.648 --> 00:25:24.769 going to create this week, like, 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:26.519 flow, right? 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:27.599 You just have to flow in the 00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:28.320 other direction. 00:25:28.840 --> 00:25:30.401 So I think that being 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.121 flexible and when I make 00:25:32.161 --> 00:25:33.342 that professional development plan, 00:25:33.362 --> 00:25:34.082 when I think about like, 00:25:34.122 --> 00:25:35.261 where do I want to be at 00:25:35.301 --> 00:25:35.922 the end of the year? 00:25:36.301 --> 00:25:36.422 Like, 00:25:36.442 --> 00:25:37.781 where do I want to be in my 00:25:37.821 --> 00:25:38.423 relationships? 00:25:38.462 --> 00:25:39.803 Where do I want to be in my parenting? 00:25:40.163 --> 00:25:41.123 What do I want to develop? 00:25:41.143 --> 00:25:41.282 Like, 00:25:41.343 --> 00:25:42.784 do I want to be better at my 00:25:42.824 --> 00:25:43.644 presentations? 00:25:43.743 --> 00:25:44.943 Do I want to be better at 00:25:45.003 --> 00:25:45.824 connecting with people? 00:25:45.923 --> 00:25:47.403 Do I want to like, for me, 00:25:47.483 --> 00:25:48.525 I think I need to really 00:25:48.565 --> 00:25:49.444 focus on getting better at 00:25:49.505 --> 00:25:51.964 negotiating because I think 00:25:52.005 --> 00:25:53.806 I wildly undervalue. 00:25:53.826 --> 00:25:53.965 I agree. 00:25:55.450 --> 00:25:57.750 my worth and so like I had a 00:25:57.809 --> 00:25:58.711 conversation with somebody 00:25:58.750 --> 00:25:59.671 yesterday and he was like 00:25:59.851 --> 00:26:00.711 what would it cost for you 00:26:00.730 --> 00:26:02.211 to do a class just for our 00:26:02.631 --> 00:26:04.731 staff and it's like a two 00:26:04.751 --> 00:26:06.811 hour thing I was like oh I 00:26:06.852 --> 00:26:09.672 don't know like 300 and he 00:26:09.711 --> 00:26:10.792 was like um I'm gonna 00:26:10.813 --> 00:26:11.752 pretend like you didn't say 00:26:11.792 --> 00:26:13.252 that and I'm gonna tell you 00:26:13.292 --> 00:26:14.232 this is what I'm gonna tell 00:26:14.252 --> 00:26:16.733 my boss and I was like okay 00:26:17.193 --> 00:26:19.094 you know so I i have a lot 00:26:19.134 --> 00:26:19.973 of self-confidence in 00:26:20.054 --> 00:26:21.493 certain areas but in others 00:26:21.534 --> 00:26:22.875 like none at all so when I 00:26:22.974 --> 00:26:24.275 when I talk about that like 00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:27.309 Where else do you need to 00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:28.431 work on yourself? 00:26:28.490 --> 00:26:29.790 Where are your gifts? 00:26:29.830 --> 00:26:30.991 How can we maximize those? 00:26:31.031 --> 00:26:31.711 And then where are those 00:26:31.731 --> 00:26:32.832 like growth areas where you 00:26:32.852 --> 00:26:33.652 have to like look at 00:26:33.692 --> 00:26:35.673 yourself in a gross way, 00:26:36.113 --> 00:26:36.913 in an authentic way and 00:26:36.952 --> 00:26:37.874 like strip it down and then 00:26:37.913 --> 00:26:38.794 figure out how do you get 00:26:38.814 --> 00:26:39.913 the support for those areas 00:26:39.933 --> 00:26:40.355 that you need? 00:26:40.894 --> 00:26:41.755 So what are the areas? 00:26:41.795 --> 00:26:42.555 I guess you got to start 00:26:42.575 --> 00:26:45.155 with your your NOAA colors, right? 00:26:45.175 --> 00:26:46.896 So work, health, personal travel. 00:26:48.590 --> 00:26:50.372 For me, it would be like work, health, 00:26:50.471 --> 00:26:51.172 personal. 00:26:53.653 --> 00:26:54.633 I don't know what my fourth would be. 00:26:54.653 --> 00:26:56.492 I mean, maybe you don't need four. 00:26:56.794 --> 00:26:58.314 But I think that's step one 00:26:58.594 --> 00:26:59.814 in the exercise is figuring 00:26:59.874 --> 00:27:01.355 out what are the different 00:27:01.434 --> 00:27:02.515 ingredients to your life. 00:27:02.634 --> 00:27:04.375 And they absolutely can and 00:27:04.395 --> 00:27:05.036 should be different. 00:27:06.023 --> 00:27:06.884 I think doing a SWOT 00:27:06.944 --> 00:27:08.086 analysis on your life and 00:27:08.106 --> 00:27:09.689 your business is a good place to start. 00:27:10.490 --> 00:27:11.810 Like how can you really like 00:27:11.851 --> 00:27:14.674 figure out where your weaknesses are? 00:27:14.734 --> 00:27:15.655 How can you figure out where 00:27:15.695 --> 00:27:16.576 your opportunities are, 00:27:16.616 --> 00:27:17.377 where your threats are, 00:27:17.438 --> 00:27:18.358 what your strengths are? 00:27:18.378 --> 00:27:20.883 And then like for me in my daily planner, 00:27:20.962 --> 00:27:21.963 I have a list of daily 00:27:22.003 --> 00:27:23.326 habits that I would like to complete. 00:27:24.682 --> 00:27:25.643 That helped me stay balanced. 00:27:25.663 --> 00:27:28.204 So some of that is like reading every day, 00:27:28.585 --> 00:27:29.486 listening to something 00:27:29.546 --> 00:27:30.467 intentionally every day, 00:27:30.527 --> 00:27:31.507 like what those things are. 00:27:31.586 --> 00:27:32.488 And those things help me 00:27:32.548 --> 00:27:33.969 with those like color balances, 00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:35.569 like movements, part of my every day, 00:27:35.650 --> 00:27:37.112 connecting with people every day. 00:27:37.592 --> 00:27:38.472 So I try to have that. 00:27:38.573 --> 00:27:39.093 Is it perfect? 00:27:39.192 --> 00:27:40.713 No, but it's like something to, 00:27:40.954 --> 00:27:41.654 it's visual. 00:27:41.775 --> 00:27:42.435 I can see it. 00:27:42.976 --> 00:27:43.836 How do you do it when you 00:27:44.017 --> 00:27:45.417 have a brain like me though? 00:27:45.737 --> 00:27:47.920 I don't know if I'm officially ADD or ADHD, 00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:49.942 but if I'm not, I'm right on that cusp. 00:27:50.162 --> 00:27:50.702 I'm nuts. 00:27:52.344 --> 00:27:53.425 I say I'm nuts and people are like, 00:27:53.445 --> 00:27:54.086 you're not that nuts. 00:27:54.467 --> 00:27:55.887 But I feel like I sort of am. 00:27:56.429 --> 00:27:58.431 I really do chase the shiny object. 00:27:58.570 --> 00:27:59.673 I have a billion ideas, 00:27:59.712 --> 00:28:01.815 but ideas don't do anything 00:28:02.035 --> 00:28:02.816 unless you execute. 00:28:03.175 --> 00:28:05.499 So I lose on this. 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:07.181 But I don't think I'm alone here. 00:28:07.833 --> 00:28:09.994 But when you fill out your SWOT analysis, 00:28:10.055 --> 00:28:11.715 right, you're like strengths, ideas, 00:28:11.855 --> 00:28:14.938 plans, you know, like goals, connections. 00:28:15.337 --> 00:28:16.179 And then your weaknesses 00:28:16.239 --> 00:28:17.779 might be I can't complete the task. 00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:19.201 So what do you then have to do? 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:20.862 Your opportunities are for partnership. 00:28:22.604 --> 00:28:23.364 And then you have to find 00:28:23.384 --> 00:28:24.285 somebody to partner with. 00:28:24.424 --> 00:28:25.566 And you and I briefly talked 00:28:25.605 --> 00:28:26.766 about this yesterday that 00:28:26.826 --> 00:28:27.727 somebody called me a 00:28:27.767 --> 00:28:28.948 certain personality color. 00:28:29.188 --> 00:28:29.749 Have you heard of this? 00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:30.128 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:30.148 --> 00:28:31.109 And I am an orange person. 00:28:35.406 --> 00:28:37.248 And some people that we are meeting with, 00:28:37.448 --> 00:28:39.189 the person who's running 00:28:39.229 --> 00:28:41.891 this project is a gold and 00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:43.510 orange and gold people 00:28:43.711 --> 00:28:44.771 don't necessarily mix 00:28:44.811 --> 00:28:46.093 because gold people are 00:28:46.133 --> 00:28:47.473 theoretically very structured. 00:28:47.493 --> 00:28:49.595 They really want things done 00:28:49.615 --> 00:28:50.434 a specific way. 00:28:50.474 --> 00:28:52.455 Whereas orange people are like, let's go, 00:28:52.496 --> 00:28:53.356 let's just do it. 00:28:53.436 --> 00:28:54.596 Well, you know, we'll get it done. 00:28:54.656 --> 00:28:55.538 I swear, you know? 00:28:56.038 --> 00:28:57.358 And so I think that's kind 00:28:57.398 --> 00:28:58.259 of when you have to take a 00:28:58.278 --> 00:28:59.240 step back and look at where 00:28:59.299 --> 00:29:00.220 are your opportunities for 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.340 partnership that will help 00:29:01.381 --> 00:29:02.362 you reach that next level? 00:29:02.402 --> 00:29:02.961 Because Jimmy, 00:29:03.021 --> 00:29:03.721 I don't think there's any 00:29:03.761 --> 00:29:04.923 point trying to change yourself. 00:29:05.632 --> 00:29:08.834 No, it's not going to work anyway. 00:29:08.854 --> 00:29:08.894 No. 00:29:10.275 --> 00:29:11.036 I was at a job. 00:29:11.056 --> 00:29:12.477 I won't say where. 00:29:14.238 --> 00:29:15.898 But the job was like, hey, 00:29:15.919 --> 00:29:17.961 we hired you to be a communicator. 00:29:18.101 --> 00:29:20.142 We hired you to do Jimmy things, right? 00:29:20.623 --> 00:29:22.263 And then I was sort of like, well, 00:29:22.304 --> 00:29:23.044 how come you're not better 00:29:23.064 --> 00:29:23.865 at spreadsheets? 00:29:24.204 --> 00:29:25.165 And I was like, oh, 00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:27.748 I'm not good at spreadsheets. 00:29:28.067 --> 00:29:28.167 Well, 00:29:28.188 --> 00:29:29.548 we need you to invest time and effort 00:29:29.788 --> 00:29:31.150 into being good at spreadsheets. 00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:32.310 And I was like, okay. 00:29:33.291 --> 00:29:34.412 And then I countered and I was like, 00:29:34.471 --> 00:29:34.692 hey... 00:29:35.452 --> 00:29:36.973 I'm going to spend this much effort, 00:29:37.074 --> 00:29:39.194 a lot of effort to be this 00:29:39.895 --> 00:29:41.096 much better at spreadsheets. 00:29:41.616 --> 00:29:42.458 And then I countered with, 00:29:42.938 --> 00:29:43.798 we have people who are good 00:29:43.817 --> 00:29:45.118 at spreadsheets at this organization, 00:29:45.199 --> 00:29:45.398 right? 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:46.160 And they were like, yes. 00:29:46.299 --> 00:29:46.519 I'm like, 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.141 are we asking them to be better 00:29:48.181 --> 00:29:48.682 communicators? 00:29:48.862 --> 00:29:49.642 And the answer was no. 00:29:50.001 --> 00:29:50.383 And I was like, 00:29:50.762 --> 00:29:52.403 then one makes sense to you, 00:29:52.443 --> 00:29:53.265 but the other doesn't? 00:29:54.125 --> 00:29:54.605 So I was like, 00:29:54.744 --> 00:29:55.825 I don't want to be better at 00:29:55.845 --> 00:29:56.346 spreadsheets. 00:29:56.486 --> 00:29:57.826 I want to triple down on 00:29:57.865 --> 00:29:58.925 what I'm good at and what 00:29:58.945 --> 00:30:00.067 you brought me here for. 00:30:00.287 --> 00:30:00.467 Well, 00:30:00.487 --> 00:30:02.106 we want you to be a well-rounded 00:30:02.146 --> 00:30:02.666 individual. 00:30:02.707 --> 00:30:03.106 And I was like, 00:30:03.227 --> 00:30:04.548 I don't want to be a well-run. 00:30:04.667 --> 00:30:05.907 I want to be super freaking. 00:30:06.327 --> 00:30:06.948 This is where it's like, 00:30:06.968 --> 00:30:07.648 do you want to be a really 00:30:07.689 --> 00:30:09.028 great surgeon at feet and 00:30:09.068 --> 00:30:11.088 knees and hips and hearts and brains? 00:30:11.148 --> 00:30:12.230 It's like, I don't know, man, 00:30:12.329 --> 00:30:13.269 I'm going in for brain surgery. 00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:14.710 I don't care how good you are at feet. 00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:15.611 I really don't. 00:30:16.270 --> 00:30:16.431 Yeah. 00:30:16.490 --> 00:30:16.750 Great. 00:30:18.290 --> 00:30:20.152 So I want to talk about these colors. 00:30:20.852 --> 00:30:20.991 Yeah. 00:30:23.268 --> 00:30:24.868 It's like horoscopes for professionals. 00:30:25.269 --> 00:30:28.711 That's the best descriptor. 00:30:28.730 --> 00:30:30.271 I think in grad school, 00:30:30.771 --> 00:30:31.873 this is like a really great 00:30:32.093 --> 00:30:33.012 icebreaker activity. 00:30:33.053 --> 00:30:35.134 I know we did this in PT school. 00:30:35.595 --> 00:30:36.535 I was in INFJ. 00:30:37.035 --> 00:30:37.296 Yeah. 00:30:37.435 --> 00:30:37.996 I don't know what that, 00:30:38.076 --> 00:30:39.196 I remember I took that a while ago, 00:30:39.237 --> 00:30:40.396 but this on the screen is 00:30:40.416 --> 00:30:41.278 the personality colors. 00:30:41.397 --> 00:30:41.557 Now, 00:30:42.057 --> 00:30:44.118 most PTs fell into what color in your 00:30:44.159 --> 00:30:44.419 class? 00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:46.381 Gold. 00:30:47.060 --> 00:30:47.520 No. 00:30:48.382 --> 00:30:49.501 No, in my class. 00:30:49.922 --> 00:30:50.363 Really? 00:30:50.803 --> 00:30:51.042 Yes. 00:30:51.202 --> 00:30:52.483 In my class, it was gold. 00:30:53.479 --> 00:30:55.059 blue is because compassion 00:30:55.099 --> 00:30:55.800 sympathy because you 00:30:55.861 --> 00:30:56.781 answered a questionnaire 00:30:56.801 --> 00:30:57.561 and then the basis of the 00:30:57.582 --> 00:30:59.263 questionnaire so most pts 00:30:59.324 --> 00:31:00.505 were compassionate 00:31:00.704 --> 00:31:02.266 sympathetic and wanted to 00:31:02.286 --> 00:31:04.347 build rapport there were 00:31:04.407 --> 00:31:05.648 some golden greens but it 00:31:05.689 --> 00:31:07.230 did when you learned what 00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.230 someone's color was and 00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:09.112 then you hung out with them 00:31:09.132 --> 00:31:09.872 you're like oh get it 00:31:09.913 --> 00:31:10.653 because I had a roommate 00:31:10.673 --> 00:31:12.775 who was whatever that like 00:31:12.855 --> 00:31:14.375 out of 40 everybody was a 00:31:14.415 --> 00:31:15.517 blue and then you had like 00:31:15.557 --> 00:31:16.438 a secondary one 00:31:16.823 --> 00:31:17.303 That's funny. 00:31:17.403 --> 00:31:18.503 But there were only like two 00:31:18.564 --> 00:31:20.066 or three golds or greens in 00:31:20.105 --> 00:31:22.166 our entire 40-person class, Rebecca. 00:31:22.207 --> 00:31:23.808 And you were told you were – 00:31:23.808 --> 00:31:24.548 which are you? 00:31:26.830 --> 00:31:27.632 Elise, which one are you? 00:31:28.372 --> 00:31:30.094 I'm a blue secondary gold. 00:31:30.894 --> 00:31:34.076 But I also think I – I think 00:31:34.336 --> 00:31:37.839 over time I flow between. 00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.501 And so like I gravitate towards blue, 00:31:40.582 --> 00:31:41.798 but – 00:31:41.798 --> 00:31:42.818 Sometimes I wonder. 00:31:42.838 --> 00:31:44.240 You were told you were an orange. 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:44.900 Orange. 00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:46.320 Like a flaming orange. 00:31:46.820 --> 00:31:48.461 Like a Cheeto orange. 00:31:48.481 --> 00:31:49.863 Which one do you think I am? 00:31:50.426 --> 00:31:51.267 I think you're an orange. 00:31:51.688 --> 00:31:52.688 Yeah, I was orange all day. 00:31:53.428 --> 00:31:53.607 Yes. 00:31:53.989 --> 00:31:55.429 So let's go through these real quick. 00:31:55.628 --> 00:31:56.710 And we didn't plan on doing this, 00:31:56.750 --> 00:31:57.390 but we'll go through it. 00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:59.171 So each characteristic or 00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:02.632 color has a strength, a value, a dislike, 00:32:03.231 --> 00:32:04.593 and then how it's expressed. 00:32:05.173 --> 00:32:05.833 So blue, 00:32:06.013 --> 00:32:07.574 where most of my classmates anyway, 00:32:07.614 --> 00:32:08.914 or I think most PTs are blue. 00:32:08.934 --> 00:32:09.654 And I think our professor 00:32:09.694 --> 00:32:10.394 even told us that. 00:32:10.976 --> 00:32:11.675 You're all going to be blue. 00:32:12.215 --> 00:32:14.836 The strength is authenticity listed as. 00:32:14.997 --> 00:32:16.018 And that comes out as a 00:32:16.057 --> 00:32:17.557 value of compassion, sympathy, 00:32:17.698 --> 00:32:18.479 and building rapport. 00:32:19.192 --> 00:32:21.173 Blues dislike hypocrisy, deception, 00:32:21.193 --> 00:32:22.015 and insincerity. 00:32:22.395 --> 00:32:25.940 And it's expressed with vivacity, 00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:28.762 like vibrant, I guess, vivacity. 00:32:28.782 --> 00:32:29.703 I've never heard that word before. 00:32:30.085 --> 00:32:31.445 Enthusiasm and inspiration. 00:32:32.667 --> 00:32:32.928 Elise, 00:32:32.948 --> 00:32:34.730 you said you're a gold or a park gold. 00:32:35.230 --> 00:32:36.791 A blue secondary gold. 00:32:37.113 --> 00:32:37.993 Your strength is duty. 00:32:38.757 --> 00:32:40.037 Your values are dependability, 00:32:40.076 --> 00:32:41.157 accountability, responsibility. 00:32:41.178 --> 00:32:41.698 That's why you're probably 00:32:41.718 --> 00:32:42.357 good at writing things down 00:32:42.397 --> 00:32:43.558 and actually doing them where I'm not. 00:32:44.058 --> 00:32:45.179 You dislike disobedience. 00:32:45.298 --> 00:32:46.880 You dislike nonconformity. 00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:47.799 So this is where gold and 00:32:47.859 --> 00:32:48.799 oranges would be like, 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:50.060 we do not work well. 00:32:50.441 --> 00:32:51.901 Because oranges are like, let's go. 00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:53.521 The way to get attention or 00:32:53.561 --> 00:32:55.182 the way to get people to 00:32:56.242 --> 00:32:58.663 build relationships is to 00:32:58.903 --> 00:33:00.243 actually do the nonconform thing. 00:33:00.324 --> 00:33:01.743 And then you dislike insubordination. 00:33:02.064 --> 00:33:04.904 And you express that in concern, stability, 00:33:04.924 --> 00:33:05.305 and purpose. 00:33:05.325 --> 00:33:07.286 Does that sound accurate to you? 00:33:10.219 --> 00:33:11.118 And then green, 00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:15.320 green were like the smart planner people. 00:33:16.261 --> 00:33:17.961 And their strength is knowledge. 00:33:18.563 --> 00:33:20.163 Their values are answers, intelligence, 00:33:20.222 --> 00:33:20.824 explanations. 00:33:21.284 --> 00:33:23.285 They dislike injustice and unfairness. 00:33:23.605 --> 00:33:24.865 And they express it cool and calm. 00:33:24.884 --> 00:33:25.645 This is the weird, 00:33:25.726 --> 00:33:27.606 creepy people with no heart rate raise. 00:33:29.867 --> 00:33:30.347 Not creepy, 00:33:30.367 --> 00:33:31.448 but it's weird for me because 00:33:31.488 --> 00:33:32.288 my heart rate jumps 00:33:32.328 --> 00:33:33.348 whenever I hear an idea. 00:33:33.949 --> 00:33:34.210 Right? 00:33:34.390 --> 00:33:35.230 Why are you laughing at that? 00:33:35.250 --> 00:33:36.691 Am I describing someone? 00:33:38.391 --> 00:33:39.392 It just makes me laugh. 00:33:40.239 --> 00:33:40.960 And then orange, 00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:41.720 this is an orange 00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:42.861 describing all these people though. 00:33:42.881 --> 00:33:43.721 So you have to understand 00:33:43.761 --> 00:33:44.321 where it comes from. 00:33:45.083 --> 00:33:46.923 Orange's strength is skillfulness. 00:33:47.023 --> 00:33:47.825 I don't understand that. 00:33:48.365 --> 00:33:48.605 Well, 00:33:48.705 --> 00:33:50.446 so one of the things that this other 00:33:50.467 --> 00:33:51.508 thing says is oranges 00:33:51.567 --> 00:33:52.387 tackle their work with 00:33:52.449 --> 00:33:53.429 enthusiasm so they can 00:33:53.449 --> 00:33:54.789 quickly move on to other things. 00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:56.290 So you and I are very much like that. 00:33:56.872 --> 00:33:59.054 They're great at working under pressure. 00:34:00.424 --> 00:34:01.786 So that's why we're last 00:34:01.826 --> 00:34:02.726 minute kind of people. 00:34:02.787 --> 00:34:04.607 I do my best work 15 minutes before. 00:34:05.028 --> 00:34:06.169 They grow restless with 00:34:06.209 --> 00:34:07.048 things that tie them down 00:34:07.088 --> 00:34:08.250 and limit their personal freedom, 00:34:08.349 --> 00:34:09.731 but they're straightforward, realistic, 00:34:09.831 --> 00:34:11.291 and practical workers. 00:34:12.351 --> 00:34:16.054 It also says that they can 00:34:16.235 --> 00:34:18.155 be a little blunt. 00:34:18.735 --> 00:34:21.038 We dislike rigidity and authority. 00:34:22.097 --> 00:34:23.498 So I'm going to push back at 00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:27.320 this a little bit is that I 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.443 actually like the box. 00:34:30.557 --> 00:34:31.277 people are always saying, 00:34:31.338 --> 00:34:32.237 think outside the box. 00:34:32.657 --> 00:34:33.719 And I watched a former 00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:35.239 person that I interned for, 00:34:35.259 --> 00:34:36.438 or I interned at a radio station, 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.998 and Howard Stern was the morning guy. 00:34:38.358 --> 00:34:40.139 When he jumped from terrestrial radio, 00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:40.920 where there were a lot of 00:34:40.980 --> 00:34:41.840 rules and things you can 00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.721 and cannot say on the radio, 00:34:43.740 --> 00:34:44.440 unless you get fined, 00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:46.920 and he went to Sirius XM radio, 00:34:47.501 --> 00:34:48.601 there was no more box. 00:34:49.362 --> 00:34:50.342 And in my opinion, 00:34:50.722 --> 00:34:52.621 Howard Stern wasn't as great. 00:34:52.842 --> 00:34:53.981 He could do anything he wanted. 00:34:54.262 --> 00:34:55.722 There was no villain in the story. 00:34:56.182 --> 00:34:56.422 Hmm. 00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.842 So this chart says orange, 00:34:59.083 --> 00:35:00.465 people like me or Rebecca, 00:35:00.644 --> 00:35:02.507 we dislike rigidity and authority. 00:35:02.807 --> 00:35:05.411 I actually kind of like 00:35:05.851 --> 00:35:07.474 authority because I like 00:35:07.494 --> 00:35:08.715 when authority is my wingman. 00:35:09.911 --> 00:35:12.092 Because I understand how far I can go. 00:35:12.452 --> 00:35:14.132 The authority in usually my life, 00:35:14.273 --> 00:35:16.074 like my best friend from second grade, 00:35:16.474 --> 00:35:17.673 he's like the straight guy 00:35:17.873 --> 00:35:18.954 and I'm the wild one. 00:35:19.474 --> 00:35:20.655 But he always lets me know 00:35:20.675 --> 00:35:21.614 when I've gone too far. 00:35:21.835 --> 00:35:22.695 So he's authority. 00:35:22.996 --> 00:35:24.056 The problem where I think it 00:35:24.096 --> 00:35:25.615 says that oranges dislike 00:35:25.675 --> 00:35:26.817 rigidity and authority is 00:35:27.056 --> 00:35:29.516 when it's a creative campaign. 00:35:30.318 --> 00:35:31.697 The golds can't be in charge. 00:35:31.898 --> 00:35:33.077 You can keep me on task, 00:35:34.059 --> 00:35:35.259 but I'm very sorry. 00:35:36.143 --> 00:35:37.784 Golds and greens should not 00:35:37.824 --> 00:35:38.585 be running the world. 00:35:38.885 --> 00:35:39.666 And that's where I think a 00:35:39.706 --> 00:35:41.088 lot of companies, they're like, 00:35:41.108 --> 00:35:42.168 we're going to follow the CEO. 00:35:42.188 --> 00:35:43.208 I think a lot of CEOs are 00:35:43.248 --> 00:35:44.050 golds and greens. 00:35:44.489 --> 00:35:45.510 And people might push back, well, 00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:46.831 how many CEOs are orange? 00:35:47.351 --> 00:35:48.112 Maybe not a lot, 00:35:48.132 --> 00:35:49.193 but I think oranges might 00:35:49.213 --> 00:35:50.034 not need to be the CEO, 00:35:50.054 --> 00:35:50.753 but they need to be a loud 00:35:50.793 --> 00:35:51.375 voice in the room. 00:35:53.195 --> 00:35:55.858 Like Richard Branson or Mark Cuban. 00:35:55.958 --> 00:35:57.958 They are oranges. 00:35:58.519 --> 00:35:59.880 We all have a little bit of blue, 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:00.420 a little bit of gold, 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:00.960 a little bit of green. 00:36:00.981 --> 00:36:01.561 But predominantly... 00:36:03.643 --> 00:36:05.246 And I think the quickest way 00:36:05.266 --> 00:36:07.708 to failure is when oranges 00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:09.210 aren't at the helm or at 00:36:09.751 --> 00:36:11.873 least deciding where the things go. 00:36:11.893 --> 00:36:14.918 I think there's like you 00:36:14.938 --> 00:36:15.559 want to put different 00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:16.619 people in different roles. 00:36:16.699 --> 00:36:17.400 Right. 00:36:18.422 --> 00:36:20.505 And I think if to your point. 00:36:21.791 --> 00:36:22.472 If you're looking for 00:36:22.532 --> 00:36:24.213 somebody who's going to 00:36:24.492 --> 00:36:25.632 come up with that great idea, 00:36:25.753 --> 00:36:26.713 inspire people, 00:36:26.873 --> 00:36:28.373 move people in a certain direction, 00:36:28.474 --> 00:36:30.255 maybe an orange is the person to do that. 00:36:30.735 --> 00:36:32.835 But then you need some of 00:36:32.876 --> 00:36:34.135 your blues to help seal the 00:36:34.175 --> 00:36:35.436 deal with their compassion 00:36:35.456 --> 00:36:36.956 and their rapport with other people. 00:36:37.157 --> 00:36:39.378 You need them to help inspire others also. 00:36:39.398 --> 00:36:40.798 But then you need your golds 00:36:40.838 --> 00:36:42.179 and your greens to help get it done. 00:36:42.418 --> 00:36:43.920 Because I'm going to be like, 00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.280 here's this fabulous idea. 00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:47.021 And then I have a green 00:36:47.081 --> 00:36:48.501 partner who's going to be like, yeah. 00:36:49.681 --> 00:36:50.802 except that's not gonna work 00:36:50.882 --> 00:36:51.802 and here's why I'm like 00:36:51.882 --> 00:36:52.922 great we'll do something 00:36:53.023 --> 00:36:54.503 else you know and so like I 00:36:54.543 --> 00:36:56.063 think oranges can roll 00:36:56.143 --> 00:36:59.423 pretty well yep if we know 00:36:59.483 --> 00:37:02.344 why yeah what I I'll I'll 00:37:02.385 --> 00:37:03.525 bring up an example when 00:37:03.605 --> 00:37:05.166 when golds and greens are 00:37:05.226 --> 00:37:07.286 in charge of an orange 00:37:07.405 --> 00:37:08.626 project because again there 00:37:08.646 --> 00:37:09.387 are some projects that I 00:37:09.407 --> 00:37:10.467 should not be anywhere near 00:37:10.606 --> 00:37:11.567 right but I work in 00:37:11.586 --> 00:37:12.407 projects that are orange 00:37:12.447 --> 00:37:13.847 projects jimmy projects jimmy things 00:37:14.938 --> 00:37:16.380 I call it a Frankenstein. 00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:18.460 And the idea is someone will 00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.221 give me a task or a goal to hit. 00:37:20.561 --> 00:37:22.001 We need to communicate X, Y, 00:37:22.021 --> 00:37:23.501 Z to these people because of this, 00:37:23.521 --> 00:37:25.422 and we need them to do or know this. 00:37:25.862 --> 00:37:26.322 Got it. 00:37:26.643 --> 00:37:27.204 I go away. 00:37:27.403 --> 00:37:28.603 I come back with a really 00:37:28.623 --> 00:37:30.164 great idea or a couple different ideas. 00:37:30.565 --> 00:37:31.425 And what happens is the 00:37:31.465 --> 00:37:33.166 golds and greens are like, yeah, 00:37:33.246 --> 00:37:34.365 do exactly what you just said, Rebecca. 00:37:34.485 --> 00:37:35.367 Yeah, 00:37:35.646 --> 00:37:37.327 but we got to play it safe on this 00:37:37.367 --> 00:37:37.887 and this and this. 00:37:38.367 --> 00:37:40.148 And what happens is a Frankenstein. 00:37:40.469 --> 00:37:41.449 And what I mean by that is 00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:43.469 they change a little bit of the arms. 00:37:45.016 --> 00:37:45.195 Jimmy, 00:37:45.215 --> 00:37:46.338 you have to be flexible just a 00:37:46.398 --> 00:37:46.818 little bit. 00:37:47.380 --> 00:37:49.021 And then so much about the head. 00:37:49.061 --> 00:37:50.364 We got to change a little 00:37:50.384 --> 00:37:51.045 more about the head. 00:37:51.244 --> 00:37:51.846 And then the feet, 00:37:51.865 --> 00:37:52.788 a little bit about the feet, 00:37:52.807 --> 00:37:53.748 a little bit about the knees. 00:37:54.289 --> 00:37:55.030 And next thing you know, 00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:55.952 by the time you're done, 00:37:56.373 --> 00:37:57.574 those little itty bitty changes, 00:37:57.715 --> 00:37:58.576 it's not a little bit of a 00:37:58.615 --> 00:37:59.438 less of a good idea. 00:38:00.528 --> 00:38:01.889 It's a bad idea. 00:38:03.032 --> 00:38:03.251 Listen, 00:38:03.271 --> 00:38:04.713 if I order a vodka soda and you 00:38:04.733 --> 00:38:06.215 throw a little bit of water in it, 00:38:06.375 --> 00:38:07.416 it is not a little bit less 00:38:07.436 --> 00:38:08.297 of a good vodka soda. 00:38:08.356 --> 00:38:09.338 It is a crappy drink. 00:38:09.597 --> 00:38:10.458 It immediately becomes, 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:12.481 I don't know where that is, an ounce, 00:38:12.541 --> 00:38:14.003 a half an ounce, a quarter of an ounce. 00:38:14.182 --> 00:38:15.244 It becomes a crappy drink. 00:38:15.824 --> 00:38:17.246 Ideas are no different. 00:38:18.336 --> 00:38:21.880 So I don't have the exact formula. 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.461 If I did, I'd be a very rich person. 00:38:24.001 --> 00:38:26.563 But in orange-like projects, 00:38:26.704 --> 00:38:28.106 if an orange person isn't 00:38:28.126 --> 00:38:29.987 at least driving the bus, 00:38:30.126 --> 00:38:33.110 I'm not saying charting the course, 00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:33.429 right? 00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:35.012 But they have to be... This 00:38:35.052 --> 00:38:37.112 is where I see a lot of things fail. 00:38:37.193 --> 00:38:37.853 As I get brought into 00:38:37.893 --> 00:38:39.715 projects by golds and greens, 00:38:40.496 --> 00:38:41.896 we want you here because you're creative. 00:38:42.018 --> 00:38:43.179 I tell them this is the way. 00:38:43.898 --> 00:38:44.679 If it goes this way, 00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:45.840 you have to do all these things though. 00:38:46.931 --> 00:38:47.891 And then they change a little bit, 00:38:47.911 --> 00:38:49.132 a little bit, and it doesn't work. 00:38:49.172 --> 00:38:51.032 And they go, communications doesn't work. 00:38:51.172 --> 00:38:51.693 I go, no, 00:38:51.733 --> 00:38:52.932 crappy communications doesn't work. 00:38:53.592 --> 00:38:54.474 You failed to do these three 00:38:54.494 --> 00:38:55.494 things that I told you to do. 00:38:56.094 --> 00:38:58.094 And that's why it didn't work. 00:38:58.755 --> 00:39:00.235 But I have distanced myself 00:39:00.275 --> 00:39:01.275 from that a little bit where I say, 00:39:01.315 --> 00:39:02.054 I make suggestions, 00:39:02.094 --> 00:39:02.914 but you make decisions. 00:39:03.556 --> 00:39:04.476 I told you to do it this way 00:39:04.516 --> 00:39:05.235 and we'd have success. 00:39:05.576 --> 00:39:06.516 You decided to change it. 00:39:06.795 --> 00:39:07.215 That's on you. 00:39:08.637 --> 00:39:09.456 But because we did that, 00:39:09.577 --> 00:39:11.317 it now doesn't work because 00:39:11.336 --> 00:39:11.916 it's a different thing. 00:39:11.956 --> 00:39:12.617 It's a Frankenstein. 00:39:12.637 --> 00:39:13.297 It walks like a man. 00:39:13.358 --> 00:39:14.038 It talks like a man. 00:39:14.097 --> 00:39:14.697 It's not a man, though. 00:39:14.797 --> 00:39:15.237 It's a monster. 00:39:16.340 --> 00:39:17.320 That's creativity by 00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:18.942 committee scares the crap out of me. 00:39:22.925 --> 00:39:24.326 I think this is interesting. 00:39:24.545 --> 00:39:25.565 So in PT school, 00:39:25.726 --> 00:39:28.047 we had a conversation at one point. 00:39:28.088 --> 00:39:28.789 It was like one of those 00:39:28.829 --> 00:39:30.090 kind of one-off classes 00:39:30.550 --> 00:39:32.471 where I think they literally asked us, 00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:33.952 do you want to be a manager 00:39:34.072 --> 00:39:35.172 or do you want to be a leader? 00:39:35.213 --> 00:39:39.715 Oh, and you, an organization. 00:39:39.735 --> 00:39:40.916 That's a good point. 00:39:41.918 --> 00:39:42.699 Needs both. 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:42.759 Um, 00:39:43.735 --> 00:39:46.175 but not every person is 00:39:46.777 --> 00:39:48.438 equipped and set up and 00:39:48.617 --> 00:39:51.079 destined to be both. 00:39:51.179 --> 00:39:52.400 Like you tend to have a 00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:55.240 skillset in either one or the other. 00:39:55.702 --> 00:39:57.023 Like I'm not saying you can't do both, 00:39:57.422 --> 00:39:59.784 but a really good manager 00:39:59.903 --> 00:40:02.945 is not going to be a really good leader. 00:40:03.385 --> 00:40:05.027 And I think where we see this, 00:40:05.327 --> 00:40:06.487 even like in my own life, 00:40:06.527 --> 00:40:07.208 this is kind of some 00:40:07.228 --> 00:40:08.208 language that I stole from 00:40:08.248 --> 00:40:09.710 somebody else is like, 00:40:10.617 --> 00:40:12.518 there is a wow person and 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:13.739 there is a how person. 00:40:15.501 --> 00:40:19.163 And even like in our own home, 00:40:19.643 --> 00:40:20.684 sometimes my husband and I 00:40:20.724 --> 00:40:22.105 flip-flop between how and wow, 00:40:22.844 --> 00:40:23.485 whoever that is. 00:40:23.585 --> 00:40:24.425 And it's okay, 00:40:25.007 --> 00:40:27.628 but you have to give time for the wow. 00:40:27.648 --> 00:40:30.570 24 hours is usually our rule. 00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:31.570 Like you have to be able to 00:40:31.650 --> 00:40:33.391 wow and almost wow yourself 00:40:33.472 --> 00:40:34.873 out for 24 hours before the 00:40:34.913 --> 00:40:36.914 how can come in and how it to death. 00:40:37.434 --> 00:40:37.954 What does that mean? 00:40:39.121 --> 00:40:41.324 yeah so when I come up with 00:40:41.385 --> 00:40:43.407 my latest harebrained idea 00:40:43.427 --> 00:40:44.768 I go to my husband I'm like 00:40:45.009 --> 00:40:47.190 I have this idea and what 00:40:47.231 --> 00:40:48.932 we have learned for our 00:40:48.972 --> 00:40:50.255 relationship and also for 00:40:50.315 --> 00:40:51.757 our long-term success is 00:40:51.817 --> 00:40:53.818 that I need to be able to 00:40:53.958 --> 00:40:55.320 have this excitement and 00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:56.722 this passion or vice versa 00:40:56.782 --> 00:40:57.603 right for 24 hours 00:41:00.065 --> 00:41:01.766 Because that gives me time 00:41:02.166 --> 00:41:03.766 to go up on the highest high, 00:41:03.806 --> 00:41:04.987 but also to come back down 00:41:05.027 --> 00:41:07.748 a little bit and then start to say, oh, 00:41:07.847 --> 00:41:08.467 what about this? 00:41:08.847 --> 00:41:09.088 Okay. 00:41:09.188 --> 00:41:09.807 How am I going to do that? 00:41:10.108 --> 00:41:10.347 Okay. 00:41:10.467 --> 00:41:11.648 Well, what about this kind of deal? 00:41:12.068 --> 00:41:13.728 And so at that 24 hour mark 00:41:13.889 --> 00:41:15.168 is when the other person 00:41:15.409 --> 00:41:17.090 can come in and be the how and be like, 00:41:17.610 --> 00:41:18.849 how are you going to do this? 00:41:19.570 --> 00:41:21.030 How are you going to do this part? 00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:23.371 And so it's more of that logistics thing. 00:41:24.331 --> 00:41:25.432 how is this actually going 00:41:25.472 --> 00:41:27.394 to work before you go off 00:41:27.614 --> 00:41:30.217 and buy seven domains on 00:41:30.257 --> 00:41:31.318 the internet and start a 00:41:31.378 --> 00:41:32.460 new business kind of deal? 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.581 And so that is how we have 00:41:34.681 --> 00:41:37.764 found it to work in our own lives. 00:41:37.905 --> 00:41:39.206 And so I do think like... 00:41:39.927 --> 00:41:41.967 again, kind of with this concept of flow, 00:41:42.487 --> 00:41:44.548 we need to have the person 00:41:44.648 --> 00:41:47.230 or the team who can be like, wow, 00:41:47.590 --> 00:41:48.710 here's what we're going to do. 00:41:48.731 --> 00:41:50.411 And that's okay. 00:41:51.032 --> 00:41:52.672 And not immediately come in 00:41:52.793 --> 00:41:54.873 with the scissors and do 00:41:54.994 --> 00:41:56.074 our Frankenstein thing and 00:41:56.094 --> 00:41:57.355 then how it to death. 00:41:57.775 --> 00:42:00.556 This is a really, really hard thing to do, 00:42:00.596 --> 00:42:02.237 I think, especially in organizations. 00:42:02.257 --> 00:42:02.836 So I'm not saying I 00:42:03.177 --> 00:42:04.697 have the fix don't worry 00:42:04.717 --> 00:42:06.797 y'all but I think it's 00:42:06.838 --> 00:42:07.978 almost easier sometimes in 00:42:07.998 --> 00:42:10.039 like smaller teams like all 00:42:10.059 --> 00:42:11.539 of us are in to kind of 00:42:11.579 --> 00:42:13.019 have this like wow and then 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.860 how and then make them work 00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:16.061 together yeah I think 00:42:16.081 --> 00:42:17.260 that's where I i sort of 00:42:17.481 --> 00:42:18.880 because I i work alone a 00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:20.601 lot I think that's where I 00:42:20.621 --> 00:42:22.302 fall apart is I was used to 00:42:22.402 --> 00:42:24.282 being one of five or six 00:42:24.382 --> 00:42:25.382 full-time people at a radio 00:42:25.402 --> 00:42:28.083 station where it was the 00:42:28.123 --> 00:42:30.083 wow and how was the time 00:42:30.123 --> 00:42:31.105 period was truncated it was 00:42:31.125 --> 00:42:32.405 like you go on the air at three 00:42:33.094 --> 00:42:34.775 We just got handed the new Nirvana. 00:42:35.135 --> 00:42:35.817 What are we doing? 00:42:35.856 --> 00:42:37.177 And it was like, turn. 00:42:37.978 --> 00:42:38.838 I got a cease and desist 00:42:38.878 --> 00:42:39.898 order for that move, by the way. 00:42:40.139 --> 00:42:40.619 I framed it. 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:42.601 But it was like, you just got this thing. 00:42:42.701 --> 00:42:43.641 How do we respond? 00:42:44.041 --> 00:42:45.483 Where the golds or the greens? 00:42:45.523 --> 00:42:46.643 I can't remember because I'm an orange. 00:42:46.663 --> 00:42:47.583 I don't pay attention to detail. 00:42:48.224 --> 00:42:49.204 The golds or the greens would be like, 00:42:49.264 --> 00:42:50.846 let's sit around for 24 00:42:50.846 --> 00:42:51.965 hours and put together a plan. 00:42:51.985 --> 00:42:52.987 I'm like, you don't understand. 00:42:53.086 --> 00:42:56.028 Our competition is already moving on this. 00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:56.648 Right. 00:42:57.210 --> 00:42:59.311 The answer is we go on the air at three. 00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:01.130 What's our how? 00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:03.931 How are we going to wow is 00:43:03.992 --> 00:43:05.032 what an orange would do. 00:43:05.052 --> 00:43:06.652 They're like, how am I going to wow? 00:43:06.693 --> 00:43:07.594 Let's get the plan and let's 00:43:07.713 --> 00:43:09.574 execute because ideas are a dime a dozen. 00:43:09.614 --> 00:43:10.315 This is coming from a guy 00:43:10.355 --> 00:43:11.494 who has ideas every 10 minutes. 00:43:12.054 --> 00:43:12.835 It's execution. 00:43:13.635 --> 00:43:15.476 You cash that check with execution. 00:43:16.036 --> 00:43:17.978 We are now hiring for how people? 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.599 Job applications being 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:23.860 accepted for how people. 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:24.420 Right. 00:43:25.188 --> 00:43:26.610 At each of the following organizations. 00:43:26.869 --> 00:43:28.291 I want to bring something up 00:43:28.331 --> 00:43:29.371 that I thought of earlier 00:43:29.432 --> 00:43:31.635 that I think fits kind of with this, 00:43:31.775 --> 00:43:32.275 you know, Jimmy, 00:43:32.295 --> 00:43:33.436 you keep coming back to like, 00:43:33.577 --> 00:43:34.478 I'm an ideas guy. 00:43:34.498 --> 00:43:36.079 Like I have ideas every 30 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:36.900 seconds or whatever. 00:43:37.661 --> 00:43:39.543 I'm also kind of like that too. 00:43:39.643 --> 00:43:41.204 And I think Rebecca is too, 00:43:41.284 --> 00:43:42.786 to an extent of what I've 00:43:42.827 --> 00:43:44.288 grown to know about Rebecca. 00:43:44.307 --> 00:43:44.547 Right. 00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:48.512 And so I think that was 00:43:48.572 --> 00:43:50.134 almost paralyzing for me 00:43:50.193 --> 00:43:51.094 for a really long time 00:43:51.135 --> 00:43:52.476 because I had so many ideas 00:43:52.596 --> 00:43:53.317 and then they were just like, 00:43:53.797 --> 00:43:55.157 as soon as they came, they were gone. 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:56.559 But genuinely, 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:57.701 there were two questions in 00:43:57.740 --> 00:43:59.342 particular in going through 00:43:59.362 --> 00:44:00.202 the professional 00:44:00.242 --> 00:44:01.744 development plan that kind of helped me. 00:44:02.945 --> 00:44:05.967 zoom in on what I really am like, oh, 00:44:06.527 --> 00:44:08.708 this is an idea that I want 00:44:08.748 --> 00:44:11.090 to just float on by and that's okay. 00:44:11.449 --> 00:44:12.570 And this is an idea that I 00:44:12.630 --> 00:44:13.731 want to stick around. 00:44:14.251 --> 00:44:15.811 So two questions, 00:44:16.112 --> 00:44:17.132 what accomplishment are you 00:44:17.172 --> 00:44:17.893 most proud of? 00:44:19.134 --> 00:44:20.414 I think is sometimes harder 00:44:20.454 --> 00:44:21.655 to answer for ourselves 00:44:21.996 --> 00:44:24.117 than what we give ourselves credit for. 00:44:24.896 --> 00:44:26.538 And then is this where you 00:44:26.617 --> 00:44:29.119 plan to be at this stage in your career? 00:44:30.362 --> 00:44:31.422 And there were lots of good 00:44:31.443 --> 00:44:32.304 questions on there, Rebecca. 00:44:32.324 --> 00:44:33.744 I'm not trying to bring it 00:44:33.764 --> 00:44:35.005 down to just two questions. 00:44:35.226 --> 00:44:37.188 But those two questions for 00:44:37.248 --> 00:44:39.530 me really forced me to sit 00:44:39.710 --> 00:44:41.851 in the discomfort that I 00:44:41.911 --> 00:44:43.193 sometimes have in 00:44:43.273 --> 00:44:44.454 reflecting on my own 00:44:44.755 --> 00:44:46.255 success and accomplishments 00:44:46.315 --> 00:44:47.056 and achievements. 00:44:47.577 --> 00:44:48.458 But also, 00:44:50.298 --> 00:44:52.541 am I actually doing what I set out to do? 00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:55.141 at the start of all of this. 00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:57.501 And if that's not matching, that is, 00:44:57.581 --> 00:44:59.284 I think sometimes just as 00:44:59.583 --> 00:45:01.925 uncomfortable to sit in and be like, 00:45:02.726 --> 00:45:03.606 I am not, 00:45:03.766 --> 00:45:06.447 this is not matching what I thought. 00:45:06.949 --> 00:45:07.889 And so for me, 00:45:08.028 --> 00:45:10.371 those two have helped me 00:45:10.431 --> 00:45:14.373 really like zoom in on as ideas come, 00:45:15.114 --> 00:45:16.715 is this one that I really 00:45:16.755 --> 00:45:17.615 want to see through? 00:45:17.795 --> 00:45:19.737 Or is this an idea that I can just, 00:45:20.396 --> 00:45:22.498 I can tuck away for later and it's okay. 00:45:22.987 --> 00:45:23.166 Yeah. 00:45:23.286 --> 00:45:24.248 Leave it in the shopping cart, 00:45:24.268 --> 00:45:24.887 but don't buy it. 00:45:25.389 --> 00:45:25.528 Right. 00:45:25.929 --> 00:45:26.949 I do that a lot on Amazon. 00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:28.271 I definitely want this. 00:45:28.371 --> 00:45:30.112 I'm going to buy the 4,000 00:45:30.112 --> 00:45:31.793 piece Millennium Falcon Lego set. 00:45:32.074 --> 00:45:32.554 Absolutely. 00:45:32.974 --> 00:45:33.795 And I will eventually, 00:45:33.914 --> 00:45:34.735 but I leave it in the cart 00:45:34.976 --> 00:45:36.637 and I hit save for later. 00:45:36.657 --> 00:45:37.878 See? 00:45:38.838 --> 00:45:39.119 Yeah. 00:45:39.518 --> 00:45:40.159 I don't know what the hell 00:45:40.179 --> 00:45:40.800 to do with that. 00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:41.701 Wow and how? 00:45:42.141 --> 00:45:42.681 Wow and how? 00:45:42.802 --> 00:45:44.382 So that one question that you just asked, 00:45:44.402 --> 00:45:45.403 what are you most proud of? 00:45:45.603 --> 00:45:46.403 I worked at a couple 00:45:46.443 --> 00:45:47.505 different places and I 00:45:47.684 --> 00:45:48.806 asked myself that question 00:45:48.846 --> 00:45:50.047 and I couldn't come up with an answer. 00:45:50.266 --> 00:45:51.327 And that's when I knew I had to leave. 00:45:54.246 --> 00:45:55.106 I'm not really proud of 00:45:55.146 --> 00:45:56.085 anything that I've done here. 00:45:56.507 --> 00:45:57.387 I could point to a lot of 00:45:57.427 --> 00:45:58.266 things when I ran radio 00:45:58.286 --> 00:46:00.007 stations because I baked 00:46:00.047 --> 00:46:01.248 into the cake things that 00:46:01.527 --> 00:46:02.307 would make me proud. 00:46:02.527 --> 00:46:02.907 Like, yeah, 00:46:02.947 --> 00:46:03.927 making the radio station money. 00:46:04.188 --> 00:46:04.907 That wasn't one of them. 00:46:05.387 --> 00:46:07.068 That was something my boss 00:46:07.088 --> 00:46:07.829 probably liked me to do. 00:46:08.708 --> 00:46:09.989 I had a couple moments there 00:46:10.009 --> 00:46:11.030 when I was like, I'm proud of this. 00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:13.030 There's a highlight reel moment. 00:46:13.130 --> 00:46:13.889 And I think I worked at a 00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:14.690 couple different companies 00:46:15.371 --> 00:46:17.251 after getting my PT degree 00:46:17.271 --> 00:46:18.351 and I couldn't come up with 00:46:18.371 --> 00:46:19.070 it after a year. 00:46:19.971 --> 00:46:20.931 And that's when I decided 00:46:21.152 --> 00:46:22.271 both of those times to leave. 00:46:23.896 --> 00:46:24.637 Actually, three times, 00:46:24.657 --> 00:46:26.358 three different times. 00:46:26.378 --> 00:46:27.639 And that is really good for 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:28.559 professional development 00:46:28.579 --> 00:46:29.300 planning because it helps 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.101 you make decisions and not get stuck. 00:46:31.161 --> 00:46:32.563 Because that's that question, right? 00:46:32.682 --> 00:46:34.164 Am I where I wanted to be in 00:46:34.204 --> 00:46:35.083 my career right now? 00:46:35.563 --> 00:46:36.864 Or did I wake up 10 years 00:46:36.905 --> 00:46:38.186 later and looked around and think, 00:46:38.726 --> 00:46:41.327 I'm still here. 00:46:41.927 --> 00:46:42.748 How did I get here? 00:46:42.829 --> 00:46:43.909 How did I get stuck here? 00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:45.530 And where did the last 10 years go? 00:46:45.731 --> 00:46:47.592 And where's that I actually want to be? 00:46:47.612 --> 00:46:49.753 It's like waking up from a 00:46:49.853 --> 00:46:51.735 dream all of a sudden and realizing, 00:46:52.755 --> 00:46:53.815 It's not the right place. 00:46:53.876 --> 00:46:55.317 Well, I'm in that scary part, right? 00:46:55.336 --> 00:46:55.516 I mean, 00:46:55.536 --> 00:46:56.797 we talked about this as my dad had 00:46:56.838 --> 00:46:58.619 a stroke months ago and I 00:46:58.659 --> 00:46:59.900 had a job then and I 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:01.380 couldn't do it because my 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.322 dad was living with me and now he's not. 00:47:03.342 --> 00:47:04.663 He's back at his house most 00:47:04.682 --> 00:47:06.364 of the time and that's good. 00:47:06.384 --> 00:47:07.204 So now I got time. 00:47:08.545 --> 00:47:09.266 But now I have to figure out 00:47:09.286 --> 00:47:10.166 where the hell I fit. 00:47:10.306 --> 00:47:12.188 What are the things that excite me? 00:47:12.248 --> 00:47:13.429 And I don't know the answer to that. 00:47:14.012 --> 00:47:15.012 I would be really good at 00:47:15.072 --> 00:47:16.653 coaching myself if I wasn't me. 00:47:16.974 --> 00:47:17.873 Like it's really good to 00:47:17.994 --> 00:47:18.773 coach other people. 00:47:19.034 --> 00:47:21.014 Like so obvious to other people. 00:47:21.494 --> 00:47:22.934 It's super not obvious to me. 00:47:23.795 --> 00:47:23.954 Yeah. 00:47:25.054 --> 00:47:26.235 I guess it's a SWOT analysis. 00:47:26.375 --> 00:47:26.755 I don't know. 00:47:26.795 --> 00:47:28.735 I don't want to just keep doing exercises. 00:47:29.576 --> 00:47:31.096 Well, but then you have to make the plan, 00:47:31.135 --> 00:47:31.356 right? 00:47:31.376 --> 00:47:32.556 Like the plan has to go with 00:47:32.577 --> 00:47:33.356 the exercises. 00:47:34.056 --> 00:47:35.396 And where I find when people 00:47:35.416 --> 00:47:38.157 are going through the plan, 00:47:39.177 --> 00:47:40.257 they get stuck on the vision. 00:47:43.001 --> 00:47:43.842 And once you kind of get 00:47:43.862 --> 00:47:44.762 your vision nailed in, 00:47:44.782 --> 00:47:45.884 it's not really hard to 00:47:45.963 --> 00:47:47.224 decide what the plan looks 00:47:47.264 --> 00:47:48.706 like or how to have a 00:47:48.786 --> 00:47:49.726 meaningful yes and a 00:47:49.806 --> 00:47:51.588 meaningful no when people 00:47:51.708 --> 00:47:52.849 offer you opportunities. 00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:57.074 But that's where people quit 00:47:57.853 --> 00:47:59.175 because they can't see themselves. 00:47:59.215 --> 00:48:00.197 They can't see their vision. 00:48:00.237 --> 00:48:03.179 They fill out all the form. 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.420 They fill out the form. 00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:05.481 And then when they have to 00:48:05.541 --> 00:48:06.963 generate this vision of who 00:48:07.023 --> 00:48:09.125 they are and who they want to be, 00:48:10.557 --> 00:48:11.958 and what they want their life to be, 00:48:12.219 --> 00:48:13.119 like actually true, 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.239 like a vision for their professional life, 00:48:16.181 --> 00:48:16.800 they get stuck. 00:48:17.661 --> 00:48:18.762 And usually when I work with 00:48:18.782 --> 00:48:19.342 people on that, 00:48:19.681 --> 00:48:21.322 I talk to them about lots of things. 00:48:21.463 --> 00:48:22.384 It's like when you do your 00:48:22.463 --> 00:48:24.065 intakes with clients, Jimmy, 00:48:24.565 --> 00:48:25.164 and you ask them, 00:48:25.184 --> 00:48:26.666 you do like a PT eval on them. 00:48:26.925 --> 00:48:28.847 I kind of do a PT eval on 00:48:28.887 --> 00:48:29.447 where they are in their 00:48:29.467 --> 00:48:30.027 professional life. 00:48:30.387 --> 00:48:31.387 And I listen to all the 00:48:31.427 --> 00:48:32.469 things that they're saying to me. 00:48:33.358 --> 00:48:34.500 And I write things down. 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.940 And then often it's like a 00:48:37.001 --> 00:48:38.601 sticky note because usually 00:48:38.661 --> 00:48:40.543 the themes that keep coming 00:48:40.643 --> 00:48:41.623 up that they don't hear 00:48:41.663 --> 00:48:44.623 themselves saying fit on a sticky note. 00:48:46.284 --> 00:48:47.065 And then I hand them the 00:48:47.106 --> 00:48:49.246 sticky note and almost 00:48:49.367 --> 00:48:50.567 always their eyes well up 00:48:50.586 --> 00:48:52.027 with tears and they're like, oh, 00:48:52.867 --> 00:48:53.429 there I am. 00:48:53.969 --> 00:48:54.389 Here I am. 00:48:54.409 --> 00:48:57.451 I don't know mine. 00:48:59.112 --> 00:49:01.032 He needs me to listen and he 00:49:01.072 --> 00:49:01.932 needs me to see you. 00:49:02.827 --> 00:49:03.927 Yeah, I talk a lot, 00:49:03.947 --> 00:49:04.867 but maybe I don't say enough. 00:49:06.369 --> 00:49:06.690 I don't know. 00:49:06.710 --> 00:49:08.271 I think you say a lot. 00:49:09.652 --> 00:49:10.851 Maybe you just can't hear yourself. 00:49:11.393 --> 00:49:12.934 That's sort of why... So I 00:49:12.954 --> 00:49:14.355 do two live streams a week, 00:49:15.355 --> 00:49:17.155 Dave and Tony earlier in the day, 00:49:17.356 --> 00:49:18.336 and then one with you guys. 00:49:19.117 --> 00:49:20.318 And I sort of like... 00:49:20.418 --> 00:49:21.278 Because most of the time I 00:49:21.318 --> 00:49:22.219 come into interviews and 00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:23.900 regular episodes super prepared, 00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:25.101 or at least outlined. 00:49:25.242 --> 00:49:26.742 Never scripted, but outlined. 00:49:28.043 --> 00:49:28.204 And... 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.170 With my radio background, 00:49:31.190 --> 00:49:32.610 I was sort of afraid of dead air. 00:49:32.791 --> 00:49:33.652 Or where do we go next? 00:49:33.711 --> 00:49:34.492 Or is this awkward? 00:49:34.512 --> 00:49:35.431 Or what's the next step? 00:49:35.532 --> 00:49:36.771 That's why I probably don't like dancing. 00:49:36.952 --> 00:49:37.231 I can't. 00:49:37.271 --> 00:49:37.592 I don't. 00:49:37.813 --> 00:49:39.092 This is where it's like, he's an orange. 00:49:39.112 --> 00:49:39.893 He should love dancing. 00:49:39.913 --> 00:49:40.532 I can't stand it. 00:49:41.492 --> 00:49:42.012 Because it's this, 00:49:42.112 --> 00:49:43.213 I don't know what's going on here. 00:49:43.634 --> 00:49:44.514 And then I feel awkward. 00:49:45.333 --> 00:49:47.034 But I think that this whole 00:49:47.094 --> 00:49:47.994 live streaming thing, 00:49:48.014 --> 00:49:50.054 which is like a stream of consciousness, 00:49:50.574 --> 00:49:51.155 is good. 00:49:51.295 --> 00:49:51.954 Because it's just like, 00:49:52.094 --> 00:49:53.835 get all the... We do this a 00:49:53.876 --> 00:49:54.715 lot in ad campaigns. 00:49:55.853 --> 00:49:57.134 What should the tagline be for this? 00:49:57.434 --> 00:49:58.554 And we used to yell things out. 00:49:58.695 --> 00:49:59.755 And whatever the first 10 or 00:49:59.755 --> 00:50:00.835 15 or 20 would come out, 00:50:01.014 --> 00:50:01.534 we'd throw them out. 00:50:02.195 --> 00:50:03.275 That's what everybody else would do. 00:50:03.954 --> 00:50:04.956 That was the low-hanging fruit. 00:50:05.496 --> 00:50:06.576 I want to go higher on the tree. 00:50:07.536 --> 00:50:09.255 So if I were to do that, all right, 00:50:09.275 --> 00:50:09.916 let's just keep going. 00:50:09.936 --> 00:50:10.896 If I were to do that in my career, 00:50:11.036 --> 00:50:13.197 I thought I wanted to be a consultant. 00:50:13.297 --> 00:50:14.876 And I like that as sort of a 00:50:14.936 --> 00:50:15.797 hobby aside thing. 00:50:16.418 --> 00:50:17.557 But being a consultant, 00:50:17.577 --> 00:50:18.657 I don't get to work with other people. 00:50:19.518 --> 00:50:20.498 I come into an organization, 00:50:20.518 --> 00:50:21.137 I tell them what to do, 00:50:21.197 --> 00:50:21.898 and I sort of leave. 00:50:22.099 --> 00:50:23.378 I come back and I go, did you do it? 00:50:23.398 --> 00:50:24.539 And they go, yeah, kind of. 00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:25.978 Can't you just do it for me? 00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:26.838 No, I'm not an employee. 00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:28.340 Can't do that. 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:29.360 It's not how it works. 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.599 Not that I don't want to do it, 00:50:31.181 --> 00:50:32.101 but maybe I'm not built for 00:50:32.121 --> 00:50:33.041 that or I'm not built for 00:50:33.061 --> 00:50:33.940 that to be full time. 00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:35.001 Maybe my color on my 00:50:35.101 --> 00:50:38.342 calendar shouldn't be all consulting. 00:50:38.382 --> 00:50:38.983 Maybe that should just be 00:50:39.023 --> 00:50:40.663 like what I do 20% of the time. 00:50:40.722 --> 00:50:41.643 And I'm fulfilled by that 00:50:41.844 --> 00:50:42.684 because that's kind of fun, 00:50:43.083 --> 00:50:44.344 but I'm missing the 80% of 00:50:44.384 --> 00:50:45.784 what I should do in terms of work. 00:50:47.739 --> 00:50:49.119 Because I miss being a part of a team. 00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:50.721 I miss being a part of... My 00:50:50.740 --> 00:50:51.822 life was a radio station 00:50:51.842 --> 00:50:52.422 where there's a bunch of 00:50:52.442 --> 00:50:54.163 people who were similar at what I did, 00:50:54.202 --> 00:50:54.983 but never the same. 00:50:55.443 --> 00:50:56.284 Strengths and weaknesses 00:50:56.324 --> 00:50:56.985 different than mine. 00:50:57.585 --> 00:50:59.065 And we always had a problem 00:50:59.106 --> 00:50:59.927 of how to communicate this. 00:50:59.987 --> 00:51:00.947 And we always came at it, 00:51:01.208 --> 00:51:02.148 always came at it from 00:51:02.188 --> 00:51:02.869 different directions. 00:51:02.969 --> 00:51:04.869 And it was like, oh, yes and, yes and, 00:51:04.909 --> 00:51:05.230 yes and. 00:51:05.630 --> 00:51:06.271 And the thing was, 00:51:06.490 --> 00:51:07.512 that was where creativity 00:51:07.552 --> 00:51:08.753 by committee was better. 00:51:08.773 --> 00:51:11.434 Because it wasn't, here's an idea, 00:51:11.454 --> 00:51:12.916 let's break it apart and tear it down. 00:51:13.315 --> 00:51:14.135 Or let's dissect it. 00:51:14.275 --> 00:51:14.556 It was, 00:51:14.936 --> 00:51:16.557 let's put it together from the bottom up. 00:51:17.661 --> 00:51:18.722 And then let's make sure 00:51:18.742 --> 00:51:19.503 that thing can walk and 00:51:19.543 --> 00:51:20.844 talk and make sure it's not a, 00:51:20.884 --> 00:51:22.105 make sure it's not a Frankenstein. 00:51:22.565 --> 00:51:23.545 But then I also was in 00:51:23.586 --> 00:51:24.487 charge of the radio station. 00:51:24.527 --> 00:51:25.467 I was the one who said, go. 00:51:25.887 --> 00:51:26.829 I was the one who at least 00:51:26.909 --> 00:51:29.030 was a lot because I was 00:51:29.070 --> 00:51:31.813 taught well by smart people. 00:51:31.913 --> 00:51:33.514 They're like, you can't water it down. 00:51:33.833 --> 00:51:35.335 It's either a wow. 00:51:35.976 --> 00:51:36.916 And then you figure out the 00:51:36.936 --> 00:51:38.418 how you don't figure out how then. 00:51:38.458 --> 00:51:38.657 Wow. 00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:39.818 Yeah. 00:51:39.838 --> 00:51:41.000 I think the wow has got to come first. 00:51:44.262 --> 00:51:45.342 What if you had your own team? 00:51:46.581 --> 00:51:47.021 That's my problem. 00:51:47.041 --> 00:51:47.862 I don't know how to, 00:51:47.882 --> 00:51:49.282 I always took over a radio station. 00:51:49.802 --> 00:51:50.423 There was always a team 00:51:50.443 --> 00:51:51.764 there and I figured out how to use them. 00:51:52.764 --> 00:51:53.606 But what if you built your 00:51:53.746 --> 00:51:55.347 own like dream team and 00:51:55.367 --> 00:51:56.027 then you could be a 00:51:56.086 --> 00:51:58.369 consulting firm and those people. 00:51:59.009 --> 00:51:59.710 How do I do that? 00:51:59.849 --> 00:52:00.590 I don't know how to do that. 00:52:00.730 --> 00:52:01.030 Yes. 00:52:01.210 --> 00:52:02.050 The answer is yes, 00:52:02.431 --> 00:52:03.492 but I have no idea what 00:52:03.512 --> 00:52:04.572 that's what step two is. 00:52:04.733 --> 00:52:05.373 There's the wow. 00:52:05.653 --> 00:52:06.054 Be a team. 00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:07.800 How? 00:52:08.201 --> 00:52:08.521 I don't know. 00:52:09.081 --> 00:52:11.284 Because all I see is the end 00:52:11.364 --> 00:52:12.005 result of that. 00:52:12.646 --> 00:52:13.487 But I miss people. 00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:14.550 That's my problem. 00:52:15.090 --> 00:52:15.271 Yeah. 00:52:16.072 --> 00:52:16.813 I don't want to be. 00:52:17.293 --> 00:52:17.693 Yeah, go ahead. 00:52:18.175 --> 00:52:19.496 Can I share a quote that I 00:52:19.717 --> 00:52:20.617 have heard and then wrote 00:52:20.637 --> 00:52:21.239 down this morning? 00:52:21.259 --> 00:52:21.318 Yes. 00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:23.862 Have the audacity. 00:52:23.882 --> 00:52:24.704 Mm-hmm. 00:52:25.617 --> 00:52:26.838 Stop worrying about the how. 00:52:26.938 --> 00:52:27.639 Have the vision. 00:52:27.659 --> 00:52:29.201 I was literally listening to 00:52:29.240 --> 00:52:30.282 something else entirely 00:52:30.302 --> 00:52:32.423 this morning before this. 00:52:32.943 --> 00:52:34.826 Have the audacity. 00:52:35.525 --> 00:52:36.186 Have the vision. 00:52:36.367 --> 00:52:37.268 Stop worrying about the how. 00:52:37.648 --> 00:52:38.467 The how will come. 00:52:39.168 --> 00:52:39.429 Yeah. 00:52:39.608 --> 00:52:40.230 And I like that. 00:52:40.469 --> 00:52:41.771 Except now I don't have a job. 00:52:43.773 --> 00:52:44.472 And I have a house. 00:52:44.693 --> 00:52:46.315 And I have a dad who's sick. 00:52:46.534 --> 00:52:47.396 And I have people that count. 00:52:47.456 --> 00:52:49.356 So yes, I agree to all of that. 00:52:49.556 --> 00:52:50.478 And I would be giving myself 00:52:50.518 --> 00:52:51.079 the same advice. 00:52:51.976 --> 00:52:54.360 But no, I mean, I like no pressure, 00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:54.900 no diamonds. 00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:55.101 Right. 00:52:55.141 --> 00:52:55.780 I like pressure. 00:52:56.041 --> 00:52:57.282 But like now it's like I 00:52:57.302 --> 00:52:58.364 need to just do the same thing. 00:52:59.385 --> 00:53:01.128 It's definitely a scarcity 00:53:01.268 --> 00:53:02.588 place to be right when 00:53:02.628 --> 00:53:03.911 you're in a situation like 00:53:04.030 --> 00:53:05.733 that's not a good orange pressure. 00:53:07.474 --> 00:53:08.856 That's not a good orange pressure. 00:53:08.876 --> 00:53:10.376 Not all pressure is equal. 00:53:11.137 --> 00:53:11.478 No, 00:53:11.637 --> 00:53:13.719 because pressure is made out of 00:53:13.778 --> 00:53:15.701 scarcity and fear, right? 00:53:15.740 --> 00:53:16.400 They're going to make you 00:53:16.420 --> 00:53:17.481 choose something that feels 00:53:17.561 --> 00:53:19.762 safe that may not fit with 00:53:19.782 --> 00:53:21.184 your orange personality, right? 00:53:21.204 --> 00:53:22.264 And you're like, nope, 00:53:22.304 --> 00:53:23.646 this is the thing that I should do, 00:53:23.666 --> 00:53:24.746 so I'm going to do that. 00:53:25.626 --> 00:53:26.248 And I'm having that 00:53:26.307 --> 00:53:28.469 conversation with myself a lot right now. 00:53:28.969 --> 00:53:31.431 Maybe I should just go back 00:53:31.471 --> 00:53:32.572 to full-time clinical care. 00:53:32.592 --> 00:53:33.693 Maybe I should just... 00:53:35.396 --> 00:53:36.777 stop this maybe I should 00:53:36.876 --> 00:53:38.398 just give up this that I 00:53:38.438 --> 00:53:39.878 really enjoy because it 00:53:39.918 --> 00:53:42.061 doesn't provide what I need 00:53:42.081 --> 00:53:43.382 it to provide financially 00:53:43.782 --> 00:53:47.724 you know it's like but if 00:53:47.764 --> 00:53:49.905 we can grow with it and not 00:53:49.965 --> 00:53:50.626 get trapped in that 00:53:50.706 --> 00:53:51.768 scarcity mindset which is 00:53:51.827 --> 00:53:52.927 hard when people depend on 00:53:52.967 --> 00:53:55.949 you it's hard you got to 00:53:55.969 --> 00:53:57.271 figure out a way around it 00:53:57.711 --> 00:53:58.612 I wrote this text message 00:53:58.632 --> 00:53:59.413 to a friend this morning 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.143 And I don't know why she texted me, 00:54:02.583 --> 00:54:04.005 but she was like, hey, how's it going? 00:54:04.164 --> 00:54:05.306 And I decided to be honest. 00:54:05.865 --> 00:54:06.286 And I wrote, 00:54:06.666 --> 00:54:07.827 I'm starting to think that 00:54:07.887 --> 00:54:09.170 just maybe I'm not actually 00:54:09.250 --> 00:54:09.769 useful at all. 00:54:10.170 --> 00:54:11.291 And maybe I've just been a really, 00:54:11.371 --> 00:54:13.173 really great bullshitter for a long time. 00:54:17.677 --> 00:54:19.360 Like, I am very good at bullshitting. 00:54:22.235 --> 00:54:23.496 that's what communicating is 00:54:23.577 --> 00:54:24.556 right in a good way like 00:54:24.717 --> 00:54:25.398 bullshitting would be like 00:54:25.418 --> 00:54:26.277 the negative way to say it 00:54:26.378 --> 00:54:27.918 right but it's like I need 00:54:27.938 --> 00:54:29.179 you to understand this and 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.001 to understand it I need to 00:54:30.041 --> 00:54:31.242 put it into a story and the 00:54:31.262 --> 00:54:32.282 story is not always direct 00:54:32.362 --> 00:54:33.083 that's why I tell a story 00:54:33.123 --> 00:54:34.324 about this that's why we 00:54:34.344 --> 00:54:36.425 tell fairy tales telling a 00:54:36.485 --> 00:54:40.126 kid to not uh you know plan 00:54:40.146 --> 00:54:41.168 for a rainy day because 00:54:41.248 --> 00:54:41.949 every once in a while 00:54:41.989 --> 00:54:42.588 something might come 00:54:42.889 --> 00:54:43.829 doesn't work but telling 00:54:43.849 --> 00:54:44.791 the story the big bad wolf 00:54:44.931 --> 00:54:46.731 does work you have to 00:54:46.791 --> 00:54:48.092 create the villain right 00:54:48.333 --> 00:54:49.853 that's what so it's like bullshitting 00:54:51.476 --> 00:54:52.536 I think I'm a bullshitter, 00:54:52.556 --> 00:54:53.378 but I think the thing that 00:54:53.418 --> 00:54:54.958 I bullshit is like, I believe in it. 00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:55.619 Like I'm not, 00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:57.760 that's why I didn't leave PT 00:54:57.780 --> 00:54:58.820 when I left clinical practice. 00:54:58.880 --> 00:54:59.880 Cause I really do believe in 00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:01.221 the service that we provide. 00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:01.800 I really do. 00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:02.362 I honestly do. 00:55:03.661 --> 00:55:04.842 But just repeating the same 00:55:04.882 --> 00:55:06.163 boring message doesn't do it. 00:55:06.302 --> 00:55:07.003 So I'm like, great. 00:55:07.043 --> 00:55:07.963 We need to start bullshitting. 00:55:08.103 --> 00:55:09.423 And like, that's funny too, is like, Hey, 00:55:09.443 --> 00:55:10.105 I was bullshitting with my 00:55:10.144 --> 00:55:10.644 friend the other day. 00:55:10.764 --> 00:55:12.166 That's like a positive version. 00:55:12.626 --> 00:55:13.846 It's like just, you know, this, 00:55:14.547 --> 00:55:15.226 but in that message, 00:55:15.266 --> 00:55:16.067 I wrote to my friend this morning. 00:55:16.086 --> 00:55:18.108 I'm like, maybe I'm not actually, 00:55:18.248 --> 00:55:20.489 maybe it's just not, maybe I'm hype. 00:55:22.610 --> 00:55:24.092 I mean, you have to think like that. 00:55:24.751 --> 00:55:25.032 I think. 00:55:25.092 --> 00:55:25.952 I think you have to honestly 00:55:25.992 --> 00:55:26.592 assess yourself. 00:55:27.173 --> 00:55:28.894 Maybe the thing you've been 00:55:28.934 --> 00:55:31.655 selling all along... At 00:55:31.936 --> 00:55:33.577 least you have to ask yourself that. 00:55:33.617 --> 00:55:35.699 Maybe it's not true, but I don't know. 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:36.820 Okay, 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.099 I would argue first that it's not true, 00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:39.181 but then second, I would say, 00:55:39.221 --> 00:55:40.041 what's wrong with that? 00:55:40.641 --> 00:55:41.422 What's wrong with what part? 00:55:41.802 --> 00:55:42.362 Selling hype. 00:55:43.664 --> 00:55:44.744 What's wrong with being hype? 00:55:45.465 --> 00:55:45.724 Right, 00:55:46.405 --> 00:55:49.867 which goes back to a Denny's at CSM 00:55:50.208 --> 00:55:51.829 seven years ago, and my... 00:55:52.570 --> 00:55:53.751 professor at the time, 00:55:53.771 --> 00:55:55.152 or I think I just graduated, goes, 00:55:55.331 --> 00:55:58.753 what's the back of a menu at Denny's? 00:55:58.934 --> 00:56:00.233 She flipped it over and was like, 00:56:00.554 --> 00:56:01.614 here's the plan. 00:56:01.715 --> 00:56:02.876 What do you want to be in 10 years? 00:56:03.835 --> 00:56:04.795 And that's almost 10 years ago. 00:56:05.217 --> 00:56:05.697 And I said, 00:56:05.717 --> 00:56:06.536 I want to be the voice of 00:56:06.597 --> 00:56:07.297 physical therapy. 00:56:07.478 --> 00:56:08.297 And that doesn't mean I want 00:56:08.338 --> 00:56:10.119 to be the only voice in physical therapy. 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:11.338 Ironically, I was like, 00:56:11.539 --> 00:56:14.119 I want to be the WD-40 of 00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:15.201 all the other smart people 00:56:15.561 --> 00:56:16.601 because they don't have a microphone. 00:56:16.621 --> 00:56:17.882 I'm like, I can see your brilliance. 00:56:18.521 --> 00:56:19.762 I can help you teach people stuff. 00:56:21.994 --> 00:56:23.313 Jimmy Fallon isn't the star 00:56:23.333 --> 00:56:24.175 of the Jimmy Fallon show. 00:56:24.675 --> 00:56:25.695 I think he would agree with me. 00:56:26.635 --> 00:56:28.777 It's who he yes ands with all day. 00:56:29.536 --> 00:56:31.418 He gets Justin Timberlake or 00:56:32.018 --> 00:56:34.219 Charlize Theron to yes and. 00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:36.139 I think, ironically, 00:56:36.179 --> 00:56:37.161 his name's on the show, 00:56:37.221 --> 00:56:38.260 but I think he would agree 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:39.240 that he's not the star. 00:56:41.802 --> 00:56:42.182 I don't know. 00:56:42.322 --> 00:56:43.282 I'm just talking now because 00:56:43.302 --> 00:56:44.403 both of you are looking at me funny. 00:56:46.186 --> 00:56:47.809 I think you're underselling 00:56:47.849 --> 00:56:48.869 yourself quite a bit. 00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:50.751 And I think your goal of 00:56:50.791 --> 00:56:51.833 being the voice of physical 00:56:51.873 --> 00:56:53.153 therapy is accurate because 00:56:53.233 --> 00:56:56.056 yesterday I saw on somebody's Instagram, 00:56:56.496 --> 00:56:58.239 a student, she wasn't even, 00:56:58.259 --> 00:56:59.780 hadn't even started the program yet. 00:57:00.702 --> 00:57:00.961 She was, 00:57:01.342 --> 00:57:03.123 it was like right before she had 00:57:03.184 --> 00:57:04.786 started PT school and she 00:57:04.826 --> 00:57:06.286 had a screenshot of your 00:57:06.327 --> 00:57:08.148 podcast that she was listening to. 00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:09.851 And it said, 00:57:11.592 --> 00:57:12.715 I love this podcast. 00:57:12.835 --> 00:57:14.096 I listen to it every time 00:57:14.135 --> 00:57:15.617 I'm in the car because the 00:57:15.657 --> 00:57:17.481 way Jimmy McKay talks to 00:57:17.521 --> 00:57:18.581 leaders in this profession 00:57:18.882 --> 00:57:19.884 makes me more and more 00:57:19.943 --> 00:57:21.164 excited about my future. 00:57:21.925 --> 00:57:24.028 And this is a second career PT. 00:57:24.048 --> 00:57:25.110 This is somebody who's going 00:57:25.150 --> 00:57:26.371 into it with a family, 00:57:26.411 --> 00:57:27.974 like moving into their life. 00:57:29.884 --> 00:57:31.744 And you are part of what 00:57:31.864 --> 00:57:34.547 made that person know what PT was, 00:57:34.967 --> 00:57:35.947 explain the different types 00:57:36.007 --> 00:57:37.789 of PT and have her continue 00:57:37.809 --> 00:57:38.929 to be excited about it. 00:57:39.510 --> 00:57:41.472 And I met her last week and she said, 00:57:41.632 --> 00:57:43.494 I found you from Jimmy's podcast. 00:57:43.934 --> 00:57:45.675 And now I listen to your podcast. 00:57:46.275 --> 00:57:48.237 And then when I hear both of 00:57:48.277 --> 00:57:50.018 you talk about physical therapy, 00:57:50.117 --> 00:57:51.239 I'm excited about it. 00:57:51.259 --> 00:57:53.300 And I'm excited to see what 00:57:53.380 --> 00:57:54.561 I'll be when I grow up. 00:57:55.661 --> 00:57:57.543 So that's one ripple. 00:57:57.864 --> 00:57:58.043 Right. 00:58:00.170 --> 00:58:02.039 So you are, you have met that goal, Jimmy. 00:58:02.059 --> 00:58:03.344 So my challenge is like, what's next? 00:58:03.405 --> 00:58:04.369 You are the voice of PT. 00:58:04.389 --> 00:58:05.052 Like what's next? 00:58:05.583 --> 00:58:06.884 I don't, I don't know. 00:58:06.903 --> 00:58:08.644 I guess now I do the, how I guess, 00:58:08.664 --> 00:58:09.505 is that what you were saying? 00:58:09.824 --> 00:58:10.826 That was my wow for you. 00:58:11.005 --> 00:58:11.525 Wow. 00:58:11.786 --> 00:58:12.306 Is that it? 00:58:12.326 --> 00:58:13.447 Like, I'm honestly asking, like, 00:58:13.547 --> 00:58:14.668 I don't know because I've 00:58:14.688 --> 00:58:15.608 been doing this for eight 00:58:15.648 --> 00:58:17.869 years and I really do like it, 00:58:18.409 --> 00:58:19.789 but now I'm like, is this a thing? 00:58:20.530 --> 00:58:22.231 Like eight years in, is this a thing? 00:58:22.972 --> 00:58:23.711 Cause I don't have a hundred 00:58:23.731 --> 00:58:24.472 thousand followers. 00:58:24.952 --> 00:58:25.693 We we've, 00:58:26.333 --> 00:58:27.853 we've gotten 5 million downloads 00:58:27.893 --> 00:58:28.514 over eight years. 00:58:28.594 --> 00:58:29.155 It's pretty good. 00:58:29.175 --> 00:58:30.376 It's almost a million a year, right? 00:58:30.396 --> 00:58:30.755 It's good. 00:58:32.351 --> 00:58:33.793 But I don't know. 00:58:34.193 --> 00:58:34.413 Yeah. 00:58:34.713 --> 00:58:35.452 What do I do with that? 00:58:35.853 --> 00:58:36.454 Is that a job? 00:58:37.253 --> 00:58:41.775 Is that on my Noah Kagan thing? 00:58:41.916 --> 00:58:42.956 Is that what I do full time? 00:58:42.996 --> 00:58:43.396 I don't know. 00:58:44.056 --> 00:58:44.998 Because that's what ikigai, 00:58:45.018 --> 00:58:46.137 we've talked about ikigai, right? 00:58:46.177 --> 00:58:46.958 The four circles. 00:58:47.699 --> 00:58:49.458 It's like what you're good at, 00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:50.380 what the world needs, 00:58:50.539 --> 00:58:52.041 what you can get paid for, what you love. 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:53.800 And that's where I think 00:58:53.820 --> 00:58:54.762 people get confused. 00:58:54.802 --> 00:58:55.382 I'm good at it. 00:58:56.222 --> 00:58:56.922 Do you love it though? 00:58:57.023 --> 00:58:57.862 Because you might be good at 00:58:57.882 --> 00:58:58.523 something you don't love. 00:58:58.583 --> 00:58:59.623 Don't do that, right? 00:58:59.643 --> 00:58:59.724 Yeah. 00:59:00.418 --> 00:59:00.978 So I don't know. 00:59:00.998 --> 00:59:01.880 I got to figure out what that is. 00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:03.000 Am I a media company? 00:59:03.139 --> 00:59:05.021 Am I a guy with people around me? 00:59:05.121 --> 00:59:05.782 But I don't know how to go 00:59:05.842 --> 00:59:07.001 from a guy with a camera 00:59:07.021 --> 00:59:08.262 and a microphone to a company. 00:59:08.483 --> 00:59:09.182 I don't know how to go from 00:59:09.302 --> 00:59:10.083 one employee to two. 00:59:10.224 --> 00:59:10.664 I do not. 00:59:11.704 --> 00:59:12.704 Because to me, that's risky. 00:59:14.166 --> 00:59:15.447 So do I get a full-time job 00:59:15.706 --> 00:59:17.166 and then I'll figure it out later? 00:59:17.367 --> 00:59:18.847 Or is that the nail in my coffin? 00:59:18.867 --> 00:59:20.048 Because I'll figure it out later. 00:59:20.148 --> 00:59:21.550 Someday is code for never. 00:59:21.570 --> 00:59:22.750 I don't know the answer. 00:59:23.210 --> 00:59:24.170 Well, Jimmy, what should I do? 00:59:25.373 --> 00:59:26.612 With what part? 00:59:27.333 --> 00:59:28.414 So it's just me. 00:59:28.434 --> 00:59:29.253 Should I hire somebody to 00:59:29.293 --> 00:59:30.074 help me do all this stuff 00:59:30.094 --> 00:59:31.474 that I hate doing so that I 00:59:31.514 --> 00:59:33.614 can actually... I think you 00:59:33.634 --> 00:59:35.155 should go get your first big-ass client. 00:59:35.934 --> 00:59:37.094 I think you should wow them 00:59:37.715 --> 00:59:39.114 and then be like, okay. 00:59:40.175 --> 00:59:40.596 All right. 00:59:40.655 --> 00:59:42.036 I'm not even going to ask Elise this one. 00:59:42.076 --> 00:59:43.235 But A-Team. 00:59:44.655 --> 00:59:45.096 80s sitcom. 00:59:45.677 --> 00:59:46.516 You got Hannibal. 00:59:47.416 --> 00:59:49.536 Mr. T. Mr. T. B.A. 00:59:49.577 --> 00:59:50.137 Baracus. 00:59:50.257 --> 00:59:51.157 You got Faceman. 00:59:51.277 --> 00:59:54.197 And you got Howlin' Mad Murdoch. 00:59:54.829 --> 00:59:56.110 My problem is I'm not Hannibal. 00:59:57.351 --> 00:59:59.291 Hannibal is the guy who is in charge. 00:59:59.411 --> 01:00:00.231 At least you just leave the 01:00:00.271 --> 01:00:02.193 chat at this point. 01:00:02.793 --> 01:00:04.693 Hannibal was the guy whose tagline was, 01:00:04.733 --> 01:00:06.134 I love it when a plan comes together. 01:00:08.815 --> 01:00:11.615 And I like, but if you watch the 18 movie, 01:00:11.856 --> 01:00:13.036 I think I'm more face man. 01:00:14.336 --> 01:00:15.737 But in the, in the 18 movie, 01:00:15.956 --> 01:00:17.157 face man was trying to 01:00:17.217 --> 01:00:18.217 always learn from Hannibal 01:00:18.257 --> 01:00:19.038 to be the next. 01:00:19.157 --> 01:00:20.458 It's like, I like being Robin. 01:00:20.699 --> 01:00:21.259 I really do. 01:00:22.509 --> 01:00:23.150 And some people will be like, 01:00:23.190 --> 01:00:24.170 why do you always want to be Robin? 01:00:24.190 --> 01:00:25.030 That's the second fiddle. 01:00:25.070 --> 01:00:26.972 I go, I just sort of like his position. 01:00:27.532 --> 01:00:28.494 I never wanted to be the pitcher. 01:00:28.773 --> 01:00:29.355 I always kind of wanted to 01:00:29.375 --> 01:00:30.255 be like the first baseman, 01:00:30.295 --> 01:00:31.175 like next to the guy. 01:00:32.938 --> 01:00:33.898 I don't know how to lead by 01:00:33.958 --> 01:00:34.599 being the second. 01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:34.980 I don't know. 01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:36.161 Robin can't start. 01:00:38.922 --> 01:00:40.324 Hawkeye couldn't start the Avengers. 01:00:40.463 --> 01:00:41.264 It needed to be Captain 01:00:41.284 --> 01:00:42.126 America or Iron Man. 01:00:43.606 --> 01:00:45.027 I'm trying to use parallels 01:00:45.047 --> 01:00:46.610 that Elise would understand. 01:00:47.791 --> 01:00:48.291 I didn't see them. 01:00:48.431 --> 01:00:49.192 I don't get that one. 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.360 Yeah, I want to be Ken, man. 01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:52.481 You're Ken-uff. 01:00:53.181 --> 01:00:53.960 You are Ken-uff. 01:00:54.581 --> 01:00:56.141 What does that mean? 01:00:56.322 --> 01:00:57.322 Oh, my God. 01:00:57.342 --> 01:01:00.882 All right, 01:01:01.043 --> 01:01:02.184 so we've been talking for an hour. 01:01:02.603 --> 01:01:05.224 I guess I'll do something I rarely do, 01:01:05.264 --> 01:01:06.264 which is I'll re-listen to 01:01:06.304 --> 01:01:07.224 an episode because most of 01:01:07.264 --> 01:01:08.626 the time I record it and then I'm done. 01:01:09.405 --> 01:01:10.166 But I re-listen to this. 01:01:10.945 --> 01:01:12.206 What about doing the 01:01:12.266 --> 01:01:13.967 professional development plan? 01:01:14.027 --> 01:01:14.987 Yeah, tell me what to do. 01:01:15.168 --> 01:01:15.688 I'm a doer. 01:01:17.061 --> 01:01:19.021 do I do well I i have like a 01:01:19.081 --> 01:01:20.242 short webinar on my website 01:01:20.302 --> 01:01:21.382 about what professional 01:01:21.402 --> 01:01:22.422 development planning is and 01:01:22.523 --> 01:01:24.804 why and then it has like a 01:01:24.844 --> 01:01:25.643 whole thing that you can 01:01:25.664 --> 01:01:26.844 work through and then when 01:01:26.864 --> 01:01:27.903 people get stuck like elise 01:01:27.943 --> 01:01:29.565 is like thank you template 01:01:29.804 --> 01:01:30.945 I'm I'm can follow 01:01:30.985 --> 01:01:32.164 instructions I'm gonna just 01:01:32.224 --> 01:01:34.106 crush it and other people 01:01:34.146 --> 01:01:35.706 are like they listen to the 01:01:35.746 --> 01:01:36.485 whole lecture they get 01:01:36.525 --> 01:01:37.927 really expired then they 01:01:37.947 --> 01:01:38.726 start working through the 01:01:38.766 --> 01:01:40.407 form and they're like help 01:01:40.547 --> 01:01:42.288 me yeah so I also do that 01:01:42.688 --> 01:01:44.288 so it's it's a thing you can do and 01:01:45.532 --> 01:01:46.134 All right. 01:01:46.434 --> 01:01:47.275 I can't ask for help. 01:01:47.335 --> 01:01:48.356 And then when it's presented for me, 01:01:48.376 --> 01:01:49.157 I can't say no to it. 01:01:49.657 --> 01:01:51.659 That's what we call an ask hole. 01:01:53.202 --> 01:01:53.882 I didn't come up with that, 01:01:53.902 --> 01:01:54.623 but I thought it was funny. 01:01:55.143 --> 01:01:55.905 You ever get people like that? 01:01:55.925 --> 01:01:57.025 They're asking, asking, asking. 01:01:57.045 --> 01:01:57.226 I'm like, 01:01:57.286 --> 01:01:57.987 I'm tired of giving you the 01:01:58.068 --> 01:01:58.628 answers because you're not 01:01:58.668 --> 01:01:59.188 doing anything. 01:02:00.438 --> 01:02:01.639 That's where I had a post 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:02.420 recently where I was like, 01:02:02.539 --> 01:02:03.780 my answer to your problem 01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:04.481 is not going to change 01:02:04.541 --> 01:02:05.342 based on your lack of 01:02:05.902 --> 01:02:06.963 willingness to do it. 01:02:07.244 --> 01:02:08.045 And that's not trying to say 01:02:08.065 --> 01:02:09.206 that my answer is the only way. 01:02:09.547 --> 01:02:10.306 But you asked me for an 01:02:10.347 --> 01:02:11.708 answer and you didn't do it. 01:02:12.108 --> 01:02:12.849 Go ask someone else. 01:02:12.929 --> 01:02:14.210 Like, that's a solution. 01:02:14.251 --> 01:02:15.331 I'm not going to give you 50 01:02:15.331 --> 01:02:17.914 only to have you not do 50. 01:02:17.914 --> 01:02:19.596 If you are still listening, 01:02:19.615 --> 01:02:20.577 this is longer than an 01:02:20.657 --> 01:02:22.338 average episode at 62 minutes. 01:02:23.916 --> 01:02:24.556 I'm curious. 01:02:25.177 --> 01:02:26.838 Write me a DM or do 01:02:26.878 --> 01:02:28.278 something to let us know. 01:02:28.298 --> 01:02:29.539 Because I'd be very curious. 01:02:29.838 --> 01:02:30.920 Because I always have that 01:02:31.019 --> 01:02:32.219 internal clock from radio 01:02:33.041 --> 01:02:33.681 where I was taught. 01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:35.782 I talked between Foo 01:02:35.802 --> 01:02:36.961 Fighters and Linkin Park. 01:02:36.981 --> 01:02:37.543 That was my life. 01:02:37.563 --> 01:02:38.682 It was like, bang, bang, bang. 01:02:39.003 --> 01:02:40.184 And it was like, you're going too long. 01:02:40.364 --> 01:02:42.625 So I'm always like, but I don't know. 01:02:43.465 --> 01:02:43.864 But also, 01:02:43.885 --> 01:02:45.146 should I care what the audience thinks? 01:02:46.226 --> 01:02:48.166 Because really, this is for me. 01:02:48.186 --> 01:02:48.907 And then the right people 01:02:48.947 --> 01:02:49.847 will find what we do. 01:02:50.208 --> 01:02:51.007 You don't like what we do? 01:02:51.027 --> 01:02:53.329 I can't turn myself into you. 01:02:54.266 --> 01:02:55.648 Can't go from an orange to a green. 01:02:56.288 --> 01:02:57.028 That would be disturbing. 01:02:57.349 --> 01:02:58.050 I wouldn't be able to do it. 01:02:58.550 --> 01:02:59.771 I've been told that I'm too much. 01:03:01.074 --> 01:03:04.177 And there are, I don't know if you've seen, 01:03:04.197 --> 01:03:05.338 gosh, what's her name? 01:03:05.418 --> 01:03:05.739 Elise. 01:03:05.938 --> 01:03:06.659 Her name is Elise. 01:03:06.820 --> 01:03:07.460 Elise Myers. 01:03:08.041 --> 01:03:09.523 Our content creator. 01:03:09.583 --> 01:03:10.925 If you don't follow her, you should. 01:03:11.304 --> 01:03:12.786 But she always says, if I'm too much, 01:03:12.867 --> 01:03:13.668 then go find less. 01:03:15.644 --> 01:03:17.226 I've been told I move too 01:03:17.286 --> 01:03:19.387 fast in meetings on projects. 01:03:19.688 --> 01:03:21.588 And then I say, I agree with you, 01:03:22.150 --> 01:03:23.490 but then I'm allowed to say, I'm allowed, 01:03:23.550 --> 01:03:24.452 I am now allowed to say 01:03:24.472 --> 01:03:25.393 you're moving too slowly. 01:03:25.893 --> 01:03:26.914 And both of those things are, 01:03:27.014 --> 01:03:27.813 and if I can prove it, 01:03:27.894 --> 01:03:29.175 I just can't make a comeback. 01:03:29.195 --> 01:03:29.815 Well, if I'm too fast, 01:03:30.235 --> 01:03:31.858 but I've watched projects 01:03:31.978 --> 01:03:33.199 fail or be less successful 01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:34.840 because of the speed at which we moved. 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.141 I'm not saying mine's perfect, 01:03:37.782 --> 01:03:39.943 but I'm saying too slow is bad as well. 01:03:40.505 --> 01:03:41.846 And that bicycle analogy is, 01:03:42.465 --> 01:03:43.005 Which is like, man, 01:03:43.047 --> 01:03:43.907 you ride a bike too slow, 01:03:43.927 --> 01:03:44.628 that thing falls over. 01:03:44.648 --> 01:03:45.708 You got to have some speed. 01:03:46.188 --> 01:03:47.269 We got to decide what a good 01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:48.210 speed is for us. 01:03:48.851 --> 01:03:49.811 So I get in trouble for that 01:03:49.831 --> 01:03:50.952 because I'm usually out in front. 01:03:52.193 --> 01:03:52.994 We'll figure it out. 01:03:54.295 --> 01:03:56.315 But that was the industry I came in. 01:03:56.356 --> 01:03:56.996 But I don't think it was an 01:03:57.077 --> 01:03:58.056 accident I was in radio. 01:03:58.597 --> 01:03:59.398 I could have been in TV. 01:03:59.838 --> 01:04:01.119 It took all day to get one 01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:01.840 three-minute story. 01:04:01.860 --> 01:04:02.380 I was like, no. 01:04:03.041 --> 01:04:03.822 Give me something that I can 01:04:03.862 --> 01:04:04.782 turn a microphone on and 01:04:04.802 --> 01:04:07.364 it's happening right now. 01:04:07.423 --> 01:04:07.965 And that's sort of why I 01:04:08.025 --> 01:04:09.025 like the live stream versus 01:04:09.045 --> 01:04:09.905 the recorded podcast. 01:04:12.418 --> 01:04:13.159 But there was no plan. 01:04:13.259 --> 01:04:14.840 And we just talked for 64 minutes. 01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:16.242 And I got a lot out of it. 01:04:16.362 --> 01:04:17.523 And if you did too, awesome. 01:04:17.563 --> 01:04:19.405 But also, hey, I got a lot out of it. 01:04:19.565 --> 01:04:22.048 So this is about me, people. 01:04:22.068 --> 01:04:23.110 All right. 01:04:23.190 --> 01:04:23.751 Parting shots. 01:04:23.771 --> 01:04:24.911 What do you want to wrap up with today? 01:04:28.456 --> 01:04:28.717 I mean, 01:04:28.777 --> 01:04:29.918 do Rebecca's professional 01:04:29.938 --> 01:04:30.759 development planning. 01:04:31.099 --> 01:04:31.280 Yeah. 01:04:33.139 --> 01:04:33.960 I like how wow. 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:35.121 That's something I'm taking away. 01:04:35.561 --> 01:04:37.041 I think how wow was it for me? 01:04:37.262 --> 01:04:38.581 Wow, how? 01:04:39.161 --> 01:04:40.643 Yeah, I think that was it for me. 01:04:40.742 --> 01:04:41.884 And then also just 01:04:41.943 --> 01:04:43.784 remembering yourself when 01:04:43.804 --> 01:04:44.545 you're thinking about 01:04:44.605 --> 01:04:46.224 developing your professional life. 01:04:47.405 --> 01:04:49.226 You might need to develop yourself too. 01:04:49.507 --> 01:04:50.907 Don't forget the you inside 01:04:50.967 --> 01:04:51.847 of who you want to be. 01:04:52.688 --> 01:04:52.927 Yeah, 01:04:53.068 --> 01:04:54.449 I would say how wow for me was the 01:04:54.469 --> 01:04:55.148 thing I took apart. 01:04:55.768 --> 01:04:56.829 Wow, how, man? 01:04:57.230 --> 01:04:57.550 How, how? 01:04:58.954 --> 01:05:00.155 Thanks for coming to my 01:05:00.235 --> 01:05:01.617 hour-long therapy session 01:05:01.916 --> 01:05:03.077 with Rebecca and Elise 01:05:03.117 --> 01:05:03.938 providing the therapy. 01:05:04.257 --> 01:05:04.998 But that's what this is. 01:05:05.398 --> 01:05:06.018 Therapy Barbies. 01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:07.219 Therapy Barbies. 01:05:07.701 --> 01:05:08.460 The best conversations 01:05:08.501 --> 01:05:09.221 happen at happy hour. 01:05:09.601 --> 01:05:10.161 Thanks for coming on.