The Golden Mile Problem: Money, PR, and Why AI Still Needs You
Dave Kittle and Tony Maritato open with a prediction: Sophie Cunningham becomes the WNBA's first billionaire — not from basketball, but from the same social-media gravity that's already reshaping how physical therapists build wealth outside patient care. Jimmy joins mid-scooter-commute to Hoboken and the conversation turns practical fast: why PR only works as a growth lever when you're the underdog, why "dumbing down" clinical education is the wrong frame (scaling it down is the right one), and why a Career Connection candidate's real question is never "what's the salary" — it's "what's the floor, and how high is the ceiling."
The back half digs into hiring and retention: why money alone rarely explains why a PT leaves, the concept of "career cuffing season" (staying somewhere out of convenience, not conviction), and a "baseball card" framework for evaluating a job the way you'd evaluate a player — caseload, culture, mentorship, not just take-home pay. Jimmy also walks through the AI prompt he's been running against clinics' Google reviews to surface hidden strengths (and hidden problems), and the crew closes on the "golden mile problem" — the case for why AI can automate the diagnosis but will never replace the person who shows up, adjusts the plan, and gets someone back to their life.
Topics covered: PR and personal brand in healthcare, cash-pay retention economics, clinician compensation structure, hiring and recruiting friction, documentation compliance pitfalls, AI-assisted marketing, and the limits of AI in hands-on care.
<p>This episode is part of the <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a>, where physical therapists and clinic owners learn how to get more patients, improve operations, and grow their clinic without relying only on referrals.</p>
<p>Looking for more episodes? Explore the full <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a> for real-world strategies on physical therapy marketing, patient acquisition, and clinic growth.</p>
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And we are live.
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Dave Kittle, Tony Meritato back on July,
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twenty eight, two thousand twenty six.
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Dave, what's going on?
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How's how are things in New York?
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Morning.
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Morning.
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All's well here.
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How are you?
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I'm doing great.
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Jimmy is going to try to join from
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the office at prompt,
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but let's go ahead and get started because
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we missed out on Tuesday.
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That's right.
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Have you had a chance to see that
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post that I shared?
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I'm curious to get your perspective on
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Sophie Cunningham.
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My prediction,
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she's going to be the first WNBA
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billionaire with a B,
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mostly just because of like the crazy
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social media success she's having.
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Was she also the one that did like
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the... I don't know what the name is.
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Like the ring girl or something from one
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of the recent fights?
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What was the...
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Was it the Jake Paul fight or what
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was the fight?
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Or the McGregor?
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The UFC...
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Ultimate Fighting Challenge Championship.
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She talked to Dana White.
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She was like, hey,
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I want to hold one of those cards.
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He was like, absolutely, you got it.
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That opportunity opened up for her,
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they said, because of the pointing meme.
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That just went crazy viral.
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Then she, you know,
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got in the headlines again with some
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comments about boys and girls sports.
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And like she dropped a shoe release,
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sold out instantly.
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I think it was Reebok maybe.
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I don't remember.
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No, it was Adidas.
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Adidas sneaker.
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Sold out all the inventory as soon as
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the shoe dropped.
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Everything's in place.
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Like this young woman has the personality,
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she has the appeal,
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she's got the public behind her.
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I could see her going the way of
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other females that have gotten product
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deals and started companies with,
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you know,
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partners that launched to a billion dollar
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brand.
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Also,
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just a reminder that Tom Brady has been
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doing a lot more social media stuff.
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In fact,
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a couple of weeks ago at the Fanatics
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Fest here in New York City, he slapped,
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not Jake Paul, Logan Paul.
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He slapped Logan Paul in the face on
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stage.
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And so, but he's getting criticized.
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He's getting criticized that it's like
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damaging his brand.
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And that was a publicity stunt.
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He's doing other publicity stunts.
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So my pushback to you would be,
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Do the publicity stunts help if you're
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Sophie Cunningham earlier in your career
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because you're lesser known and it makes
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sense for you to be known,
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whereas Tom Brady is kind of very
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established and well-known,
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and now it's almost like,
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why are you doing these silly â
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PR stunts just to get headlines.
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Are those two different things?
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Or is it always good?
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Or is it bad?
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Or is it hurting Tom Brady,
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but not hurting Sophie Cunningham?
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That's my question for you.
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I think we have to be cautious not
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to confuse what we're hearing.
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So you're hearing that it's bad for Tom
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Brady.
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Who's saying that it's bad for Tom Brady?
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Who's looking at Tom's bank account?
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My understanding was he lost a ton of
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money on crypto and other deals that he
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was in.
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So I'm guessing he's probably trying to
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rebuild what he lost.
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But, you know,
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haters are going to hate like you've said
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it.
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I've said it.
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Jimmy said it.
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When you're succeeding,
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people are going to try to tear you
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down.
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They're going to try to support you when
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you're down.
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I don't know.
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How are we supposed to know that he's
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not doing well with these stunts?
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P.T.
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Barnum,
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I think plenty of people hated his guts
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and thought that he was taking advantage.
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And if you put P.T.
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Barnum in today's market, forget it.
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Like there'd be protests and people would
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go crazy about it.
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Yet he would be home smoking his cigar,
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loving his life because he would be
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winning on every front.
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So I don't know.
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So one of the negative comments was from
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Dave Portnoy,
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who is probably a little less wealthy.
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Probably he's got to be less wealthy than
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Tom Brady.
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But he's like big enough or loud enough
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or popular enough.
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And he was one person of other people
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that were talking poorly about Tom Brady.
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And Portnoy is a Patriots fan.
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So he is a Tom Brady fan and
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a Patriots fan of Tom Brady's career.
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And he was still saying â
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Tom Brady's doing this, like,
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these stupid PR stunts, but also, like,
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Dave Portnoy does, like,
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silly social media stunts.
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Absolutely.
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He was just on Family Feud, Portnoy was.
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He was, you know,
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he does the pizza reviews, like,
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he does all this crazy stuff.
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And he is an abrasive personality that
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plenty of people don't like.
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Right.
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Yeah, I mean,
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and he is not the one seeing Tom's
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bank account.
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You know, so whatever Tom's doing, I mean,
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he's had plenty of success.
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He's had plenty of experience.
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He's a super smart guy from what I've
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seen.
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I believe he is making calculated
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decisions.
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But my big thing for all of this
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is
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How does this tie into the profession of
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physical therapy?
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And so we talked about this with Caitlin
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Clark.
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Now we've got Sophie Cunningham to
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discuss, but it's like, all right,
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these girls are playing basketball.
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They're not getting rich playing
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basketball.
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If I remember,
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Caitlin Clark was making like eighty
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thousand a year,
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seventy something thousand a year for
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playing basketball.
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She wasn't making much money.
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But she's making all of her wealth from
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the brand deals associated with her
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ability to play basketball.
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Sophie is making tons of wealth and will
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probably make significantly more than
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Caitlin.
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with this kind of social media attention,
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you put that in the world of physical
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therapy,
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I kind of feel like I'm on the
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cusp of completely replacing my physical
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therapy income with social media income.
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And I'm not near what a couple other
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physical therapists out there are when it
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comes to scale.
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I think a physical therapist should have
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physical therapy in their back pocket.
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It's their passion, it's their hobby,
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it's the thing they like to do,
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but it's a tenth or less of the
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revenue profit generator of something
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else.
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Whether it be a business that they run,
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whether it be real estate that they're
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involved in, whether it be social media,
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digital products, whatever it's gonna be,
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the wealth shouldn't necessarily come from
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patient care.
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It should come from some other vehicle.
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And I think you saw the post where
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I was discussing something like that.
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And I got a little resistance,
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which is awesome, where they said,
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you know, we got to be careful.
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We can't make physical therapy about the
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money.
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It's got to be about the passion and
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the professionalism and the excellence.
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And did you catch any of that?
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I didn't.
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You got to fill me in.
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But we could certainly riff on it.
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Well,
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tell me about what you're thinking so far
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while I look for it.
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Well, also,
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so Jimmy posted something about on
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LinkedIn.
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He posted I just had it.
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He posted like your most what is your
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most.
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Let me pull it up.
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Let me pull it up.
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While you're finding it,
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I thought Jimmy had a great post where
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he was talking about,
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did you use more words?
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Or what did he, oh, more steps,
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more words or more steps in the clinic
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during patient care time.
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Talking about documentation.
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Yeah, I did see that.
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What Jimmy's,
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I can't find the post on LinkedIn.
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It was something like,
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what's your most impressive or valued
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thing
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recent like metric in your physical
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therapy practice.
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And I kind of hesitate because like for
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us,
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it's like in terms of like knowing if
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you have, you know,
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successful patients or a successful
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clinic.
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And I wanted to kind of say like
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retention,
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like someone who pays out of pocket and
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like we're continuing to help them reach
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their goals.
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But listen, if someone just pays
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a thousand bucks to work with us.
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Like that's, that's amazing.
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And if they got the result that they
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were looking for and we helped them with
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that, that that's amazing.
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And if they're independent enough to like
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continue their, you know,
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exercise and progression on their own,
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like that's awesome.
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That that's also a win.
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But obviously like financially,
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if someone stays with us and spends tens
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of thousands of dollars over time,
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or in some cases a lot more money
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than that over time, uh,
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because we're helping them incrementally
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like achieve new goals,
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like get back to golf and then get
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back to get back to putting first,
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then get back to the golf simulator.
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And then it's like,
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get back to like six to nine holes
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outside.
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And then it's like complete a full round
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of golf outside.
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And then it's, um,
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two rounds of golf or, you know,
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two rounds of golf in three or four
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days in that time window or something.
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And then it's, um,
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going on a trip to Europe and not
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being wiped out and having enough
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endurance and strength to like actually
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enjoy the trip with your spouse.
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Like those are,
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those are like incrementally some goals
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for like one person that we work with.
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And that's, that's one thing where like,
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I'm trying to make sense because like,
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you know,
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we sometimes shy away from like the,
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like the revenue and the profit stuff with
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like physical therapy in general.
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And so if there's like a twenty or
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thirty year old that just spends like a
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thousand bucks with us and they get a
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win and they,
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we help them get back to CrossFit or
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High Rocks or just running in Central
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Park, like whatever it is,
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like that's still equally as much of a
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win as helping someone who's seventy or
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eighty incrementally with these other
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goals.
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But they just they just want more
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accountability.
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They just want more oversight.
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They want to maybe they're it's a
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combination of multiple things.
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Maybe they're a little lonely.
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Maybe they want the the accountability in
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person.
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um those are some things that uh came
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up when i saw that post from jimmy
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and since jimmy's joining now live um
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we'll have to ask him about that that
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recent linkedin post which one was that i
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was and this is cool i was just
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using my new scooter to commute to work
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and i gotta be honest i was listening
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to you guys as i'm cruising up the
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street in hoboken it sounds like a morning
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radio show it's a little different when
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you're when you're listening in the
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environment
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and without you that is high praise this
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morning that's right so what was the post
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on linkedin i heard you guys talking about
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my i like itchy questions like steps or
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steps or words right and you thought it
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would go all one way with it was
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like people were making arguments and
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that's the point it's not social media
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it's supposed to be media that's social
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what was the linkedin post that you were
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asking i didn't hear that one
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There was something, I'm looking,
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I'm on your post right now, I'm looking.
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There was something like,
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what's your best metric at your clinic
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that you're most proud of or something
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like that?
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Does that ring a bell?
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Yeah, I was asking, I think,
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was it a meme?
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Was it a picture?
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Because I asked,
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I did like one from the big Lebowski.
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I was like,
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so cool that you have fourteen KPIs.
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Which one actually shows you if patients
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show back up again?
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Oh, no, I got it.
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I got it.
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It's from one hour ago.
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Show and tell Tuesday.
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What's one thing in your clinic you're
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irrationally proud of?
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Show us.
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And you said it could be a piece
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of equipment, your clinic space,
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the coffee set up,
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a workflow that saves everyone time,
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a teammate who makes work better,
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a clinic dog, anything that makes you say,
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yeah, this is pretty awesome.
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Drop a photo or a short video in
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the comments to tell us why.
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Now, I didn't pull this up.
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Now the audience heard the post.
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And I was telling Tony that what we
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are irrationally proud of is something
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that doesn't really get talked about a lot
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in physical therapy and in health care,
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which is retention.
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Like if we if we have a twenty
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or thirty year old get back to their
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CrossFitter running and all they had to do
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was spend like a thousand bucks with us
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or whatever.
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Like that's amazing.
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And that's a win.
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But then we also have like sixty,
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seventy eight year olds that spend crazy
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money with us,
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especially over time because we're
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incrementally helping them achieve other
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goals, like get back to golf,
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get back to half of a round of
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golf,
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get back to a full round of golf,
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get back to like different things that
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they want.
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And then every time,
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like some of these people that are very
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like type A personality of our clients,
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we help them with one goal and like,
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there's always like,
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it's always like the next goal is up.
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Like, all right,
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now I want you to help me with
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this.
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And now I went on this trip and
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I was a little, you know,
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fatigue that I didn't really like,
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I couldn't tour and go around as much.
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So I want to work on that.
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I want to work on, you know,
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what does that,
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what do I need to do for that?
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Right.
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So, okay.
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Strength and endurance and how's your
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sleep and how's your,
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how's your nutrition,
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how's your stress and all that type of
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stuff.
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So those people, um,
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spend more money with us because they want
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more help with like more goals over time.
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And that's one thing that we're
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irrationally proud of, which is like,
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We're growing really well this year,
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and that's one part of it.
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It's like some of these folks that are
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like fifty year old and plus that have
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a lot of goals that want to that
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have discretionary money and want to just
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stick with us for all of their future
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goal setting.
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The first thing is the on ramp and
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then you keep them on the highway for
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as long as possible.
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My post was looking for comments, though.
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I'm trying to mimic Tony, which is like.
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So I took a picture yesterday.
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Maybe you missed this one.
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I got weird tchotchkes on my desk.
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I got like little Lego sets and stress.
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Jimmy's always playing with something.
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I'm spinning pens.
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I can't sit still.
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I was like,
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other people are probably like this.
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What's on your desk?
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And wouldn't you know it?
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People are proud to show their things.
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So then I wanted either text responses.
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What I really want is photos.
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I wanted to show me.
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And then I asked it formally on LinkedIn,
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but differently show and tell Tuesday.
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So I'm watching what Tony's doing and I'm
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saying, that's cool.
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I don't want to copy him.
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I see the Steelers knee replacement.
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Good, good, good.
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What's my version of that?
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What is my version of that?
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What's my version of that?
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So that's what I'm looking to do.
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But yes, I don't know.
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I was thinking about you.
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Have you seen Pink's?
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window washing.
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Maybe you won't see that in the city
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because of geotargeting.
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Pinks is a window washing service.
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Chris Corner would love Pinks.
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Have you seen ads for Pinks window
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washing, Tony?
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Yeah.
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I think we discussed it.
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Oh, okay.
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It's an irrationally boring service,
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but nobody wants to do it.
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I even hire a woman every couple of
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months to come clean my house,
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and she's like, windows are extra.
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Even the cleaning lady who likes cleaning
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and gets paid to do it is like,
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windows are extra.
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So they're like, we do windows.
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and all their people wear the same color,
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right?
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It's like sort of in the line,
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remember the guy next to the pizza place
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who would spin the thing?
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It's like, can I get attention?
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So I was sort of thinking like,
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what's Dave's version of that?
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It would be irrational,
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but what if you hit like,
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fifty clinicians and you owned a
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neighborhood, if you owned a zip code,
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You would wear a knee length white coat
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and carry a black leather bag.
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That is how you would treat.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like that would be your billboard or like
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some spin of that.
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That might sound ridiculous and that might
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not be the right answer,
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but the answer is probably far enough away
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from normal in any direction.
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Or you'd wear yellow hats.
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That doesn't make any sense.
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Like Savannah banana hats, yeah.
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It doesn't make any sense,
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but it stands out.
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Like the only reason it makes sense is
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because it's a purple cow.
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Hmm.
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Yeah.
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So so I apologize.
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I didn't have a comment for your post.
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I'm doing it here verbally live.
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The post about the what are you
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irrationally proud of with your practice?
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And you were saying you wanted comments.
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I'm saying I didn't comment on that,
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but I'm verbally commenting about it to
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you guys.
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Well,
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so I've been to clinics like I was
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at Alice Barnes is a clinician in
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Colorado.
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just outside of Denver.
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You walk in,
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and I know this is going to shock
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both of you,
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not a beige wall in sight.
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It feels like a place NHL players or
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NFL players would go work out in the
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offseason.
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They would just pay ten grand for the
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year and call it â no,
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more than that,
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twenty-five grand a year and call it a
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day because it was all AstroTurf,
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six of everything, a recovery room.
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But Alice â
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Has like a like she's got stuff around
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that are all wow moments.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like a really cool painted wall with a
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mural on it or a coffee set up
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like each clinic has one of those things.
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And it's shocking that I know these people
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and I never see they bury the lead.
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I'm like, dude,
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you have a nine hundred dollar coffee
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machine that you just give away espressos.
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I'm like.
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You got to play that up, man.
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That's your weird.
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You lean into your weird.
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You lead with the weird.
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And a lot of clinics don't.
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They have a weird thing.
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Oh, we have a rock climbing wall.
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I worked in a pediatric clinic that had
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a legit, legit zip line,
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like from a playground.
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And kids lost their minds.
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I'm like,
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why is that not the first thing on
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your homepage?
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Because a mom would be like,
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my kid might like that.
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And once the kid sees it,
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you think he's going to want to go
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back there.
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The answer was yes.
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So what's your zip line?
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Should be my next post.
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Before you jumped on,
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can you hear me okay?
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Yeah.
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Before you jumped on,
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we were talking about Sophie Cunningham.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I heard that.
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I was listening to that.
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I wanted to get some of your feedback
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on that.
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What were your thoughts?
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Proof of concept.
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And I know someone had in the comments
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like, well, yeah,
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if you put away X number of dollars
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at eight percent,
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that's not what you're talking about,
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right?
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Like you're talking about being a
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billionaire in the next ten years, right?
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Not when she's sixty five.
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And the answer is she's a lightning rod.
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She's the one with the finger, right?
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She's doing this.
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Fucking great move.
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Like, you know,
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people like that's unsportsmanlike.
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Like,
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have you seen some of the other stuff
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in other sports?
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Please don't please don't say that.
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That's that's nothing.
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That's nothing.
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That's a two.
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But here's the thing.
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It's a ten if you're in the WNBA
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because it hasn't been done there and
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women don't do that.
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And for the podcast audience,
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I am throwing up air quotes left and
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right.
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Please don't come at me.
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I don't disagree.
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Let's put it this way.
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If anybody's going to be a billionaire
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from the WNBA,
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it would be her or it's going to
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be the girl who's in middle school right
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now watching her going,
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I see what she's doing.
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Be a B-plus basketball player and you'll
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get paid like a B-plus basketball player.
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Be an A-plus basketball player and you'll
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get paid like a B-plus basketball player.
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That's just how that math is.
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If you want to make more,
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do something outside.
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Right.
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There was a story about Messi,
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how Nike turned him.
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His dad,
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his dad asked for an extra track suit.
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Just wanted an extra zip up track suit
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and wind pants.
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And they were like they ghosted him.
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And then he went to another brand.
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You lost Messi for thirty eight dollars
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worth of windbreaker material.
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Like you missed the boat.
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You missed it.
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Just like the Yankees lost Juan Soto
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because they would not give his family a
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suite for like the playoffs last year or
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the year before or whatever.
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It wouldn't get Griffey because apparently
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the Yankees slighted Griffey Sr.
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But that's it.
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You're either doing public â that's public
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relations.
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You're either doing public relations well
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or poorly.
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There is no not doing public relations.
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I thought it was funny.
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Dave is going to get into this world
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really fast.
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The thing that stands out to me about
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Sophie Cunningham and the pointing,
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there's all these clips coming out now
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where one of the officials is telling her
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not to step over.
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Can you not hear me?
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i'm sweating okay it is telling her not
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to step over the the three-point line and
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then she steps over it intentionally when
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he turns around she does all of this
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stuff like just to spite because she was
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told not to do it it's exactly what
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a you know three-year-old is gonna start
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doing
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But that is what's going to lead to
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the success.
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That's where people are going to say, no,
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she can't make that kind of money.
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Because I guarantee everybody before that
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incident actually assumed Caitlin Clark
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was going to be the biggest revenue
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producer, the biggest moneymaker.
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It's not.
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It's going to be Cunningham.
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Yeah,
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you're going to get more from you're going
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to get more from shoes.
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The resistance as I was finishing my
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scooter ride up Main Street here in
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Hoboken to get to the office.
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The resistance for PT is going to be
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from people who are staking their identity
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in the sanctity.
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And I'm using air quotes again in this
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is this.
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And I think that's a giant mistake,
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but that's OK if that's you.
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What they're saying is you can't go on
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the Instagrams and teach people this
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because I took a decade to learn this.
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And I'm like, well,
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a really skilled person could educate in
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thirty seconds.
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That's that's not dumbing it down.
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That's simple.
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The dumbing it down.
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I thought I had a good analogy this
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past weekend.
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Someone said, oh, I see what you do.
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You sort of dumb it down.
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And it made me sort of stung a
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little bit.
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And I was like, well, I don't know.
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Do you think what I do is dumb
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or what you're saying is only dumb people
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can understand it?
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And then I use it.
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Which takes craft, and you know that.
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Right, but the analogy I gave was,
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you know how to resize a picture, right?
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But if you do it wrong,
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it gets warped.
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Unless you do it in scale,
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perfectly in a corner,
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the thing you get is messed up.
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So if I just simply took a complex
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thing and told it like a third grader,
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that might not land.
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You have to put it in context.
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You have to make sure nothing is lost.
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So dumbing it down isn't the answer.
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Watering it down isn't the answer.
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Perfectly scaling it down,
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that's different.
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I was going to try and take a
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clip from an orthopedic surgeon who was
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talking about osteoporosis.
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And he comes on Instagram and he says,
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if this doesn't change your mind about
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osteoporosis, I don't know what will.
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And on the screen, he's showing an image,
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an illustration of trabecular bone and the
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matrix within the bone and showing how the
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bone disintegrates.
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I'm like, nobody cares about that.
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That's not going to change any woman's
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mind about osteoporosis.
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Show the woman with a broken hip in
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the bathtub, naked,
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asking her son to help her get up.
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That's gonna change somebody's mind.
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It's not gonna be a graphic illustration
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of a bone.
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If you show a graphic illustration,
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as annoying as it is,
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it needs to be someone slightly bent over,
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face wincing in pain,
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and then on their back,
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something red like a heat map with little
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arrows coming, little points.
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Listen, it communicates one thing.
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A picture says a thousand words, right?
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If you use it well,
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but how come you haven't shown the
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trabecular matrix in a bone?
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Because I don't know what the hell that
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is.
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That means nothing to me.
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You tried to,
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that surgeon tried to sound fancy.
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Fancy.
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Not clear.
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What else we got?
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uh did you talk about i mean i
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know you probably mixed it in the second
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topic that i saw come across the group
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chat was uh do we want to spend
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time driving or do we want to spend
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time improving our car do we want to
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spend time just just just why are we
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paying attention to the money and how much
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money we make is that the conversation we
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were talking about
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So we, I shared a post,
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which I've been thinking a lot about,
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and it basically said, you know,
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back in my day started with back in
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my day,
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a hundred thousand a year was aspirational
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because I remember like going back a
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decade.
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If I put out that, Hey,
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a mobile therapist can earn a hundred
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thousand dollars seeing twenty patients a
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week.
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It was like, amazing.
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I can't believe it.
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How can I make that much money?
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Now it doesn't even move the needle.
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Like nobody is even looking at that as
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something, you know, awesome.
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Now you have to be at two fifty
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to five hundred to really even get
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anyone's attention.
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So no, I disagree.
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You really, you,
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you still feel like a hundred thousand is
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enough for somebody to take notice.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Depending on if they're the owner or the
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clinician or, or they're the employee.
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We're talking,
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we're talking about clinicians that are,
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that are in the job market, right?
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Yeah.
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I think if you dangle anything north of
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one fifty,
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someone will pay attention because I think
00:24:51.277 --> 00:24:53.258
everybody's expecting a hundred.
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Well, how come I,
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how come I have so much interest when
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I,
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when I get inbound and then I send
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them a two pager,
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these are potential therapist candidates.
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And it's a, you know,
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seventy seven to eighty seven thousand
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dollar base salary.
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And then the rest is all performance pay.
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And then they have to ask.
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Then they have to trust us like, hey,
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like,
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where do you get new patient referrals
00:25:14.451 --> 00:25:14.731
from?
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And, you know,
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how much how fast does it take me
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to ramp up my caseload and all that?
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So they they want to know, like,
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when can I expect to be
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at a hundred K or more over what
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time and then kind of maintain that.
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So it obviously depends on our ability to
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do the marketing,
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get new patients and their ability to be
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great clinically and have communication
00:25:35.019 --> 00:25:36.780
and retain a lot of those patients if
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those patients need it or want it and
00:25:38.661 --> 00:25:39.681
wanted to continue with us.
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So that does not say guaranteed a hundred
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thousand, although it's pretty easy.
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You're going to make a hundred thousand
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with us, but you're talking about,
00:25:47.022 --> 00:25:48.723
let's say one fifty, right, Tony, right,
00:25:48.743 --> 00:25:48.963
Jimmy.
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So
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It doesn't say guaranteed you're going to
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make one fifty.
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But there's I have I have three therapists
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right now going through our recruiting
00:25:55.510 --> 00:25:56.832
process, our interview process.
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I have others that are interested in
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scheduling calls.
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They're looking at our social media.
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So it's not saying a guaranteed one
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hundred and fifty thousand dollar salary.
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It doesn't say anywhere.
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But we still have we still have
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significant interest.
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So.
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But there's a decent path, right?
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And you're probably weeding those people
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out.
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If they don't ask,
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you don't want those people.
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You want inquisitive people who are going
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to hustle.
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Those are the right people who ask the
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right questions.
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They go, well,
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if I hit all my metrics,
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what would I land?
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And if someone did all their things,
00:26:24.595 --> 00:26:25.375
what would they land?
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If someone did well,
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if someone did A- on all the things
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you just mentioned, where would they land?
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Ballpark.
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At least one-twenty.
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Pre-taxed.
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In my memory,
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the posts that you've shared that I've
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seen, when you list a number,
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it's usually one hundred and twenty seven.
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I feel like I've seen or something above
00:26:46.752 --> 00:26:47.413
one hundred.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Regardless, you're right.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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The point is,
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inflation is driving expectations higher.
00:26:57.280 --> 00:26:59.343
And Scott Davis, great guy,
00:26:59.403 --> 00:27:01.825
follow him on TikTok, educator,
00:27:02.204 --> 00:27:03.526
amazing clinician.
00:27:03.686 --> 00:27:05.607
He talks about, you know, really,
00:27:05.627 --> 00:27:06.528
really great stuff.
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But he shared a sentiment that I've heard
00:27:10.612 --> 00:27:12.493
echoed through other clinicians,
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especially clinicians that have been in
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the profession, twenty, thirty,
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forty years.
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These are not sentiments coming out from
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new grads.
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These are sentiments from, you know,
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consummate professionals.
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And he's like, look,
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We need to acknowledge there's more to it
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than just the money.
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We can't get so stuck on the number
00:27:31.223 --> 00:27:33.464
that we forget we're here to help.
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We're here to change lives.
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And I get it.
00:27:37.744 --> 00:27:39.346
I totally agree with everything that
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Scott's saying.
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Now,
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one part of this where I think he
00:27:42.566 --> 00:27:46.027
loses the attention of the viewer and the
00:27:46.186 --> 00:27:48.027
perspective person thinking about physical
00:27:48.067 --> 00:27:48.426
therapy,
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and it's the same with another person I'm
00:27:50.188 --> 00:27:51.528
thinking of in OT.
00:27:53.226 --> 00:27:56.048
is Scott mentioned that he lives kind of
00:27:56.067 --> 00:27:57.888
a conservative life.
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He has a two bedroom apartment,
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lives with his wife, fulfilling life.
00:28:04.073 --> 00:28:05.854
That's not really selling the dream.
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That's not selling the shine and the
00:28:08.675 --> 00:28:09.957
glitter of like, yeah,
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I want to do that.
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And this other person basically says the
00:28:13.818 --> 00:28:14.298
same thing.
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This other person's like, look,
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:16.661
I have a small house.
00:28:16.780 --> 00:28:18.221
I have a conservative car.
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I drive all of these things.
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OK, like that's awesome.
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You can do that.
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And I feel like I live a very
00:28:26.567 --> 00:28:27.648
conservative life.
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But that being said,
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that's not going to attract young
00:28:31.852 --> 00:28:33.833
professionals into the profession because
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you could do that without a doctorate
00:28:35.634 --> 00:28:35.934
degree.
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You know, you could do that in anything.
00:28:38.797 --> 00:28:39.678
What are you going to say, Jimmy?
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I shared something.
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See if you can bring it on the
00:28:41.940 --> 00:28:42.339
screen.
00:28:43.141 --> 00:28:45.422
I had shared this post on on LinkedIn.
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And I got a lot of reaction out
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of it.
00:28:48.557 --> 00:28:48.757
I got like,
00:28:48.777 --> 00:28:49.977
twenty-nine comments and I shared it
00:28:50.017 --> 00:28:50.497
yesterday.
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And the post was, I think employers,
00:28:52.278 --> 00:28:54.499
this is gonna go counterintuitive,
00:28:55.078 --> 00:28:57.779
overestimate how much money alone makes a
00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:00.039
physical therapist consider another job.
00:29:00.861 --> 00:29:02.340
Everybody just thinks if you're hiring
00:29:02.361 --> 00:29:03.842
someone that money's gonna pull them away.
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I had a comment.
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That's true.
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You need to hit a floor.
00:29:09.766 --> 00:29:11.606
Everybody's got a number that will be,
00:29:11.826 --> 00:29:12.087
okay,
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you could pay me one hundred twenty five
00:29:13.769 --> 00:29:14.388
thousand dollars.
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But if the job sucks, I ain't going.
00:29:17.050 --> 00:29:18.612
But you need you need a number.
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I need ninety eight.
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That's my number because I know how much
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to live.
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I'd consider it.
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But it's these other things.
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Listen,
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you're going to pay me less money to
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do less work.
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I'm cool with that.
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If that's the person I am right now.
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Right.
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I made like ninety grand a year in
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radio.
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I would have paid sixty two thousand
00:29:37.163 --> 00:29:38.644
dollars to the radio station to keep doing
00:29:38.664 --> 00:29:39.085
that job.
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But it was the job.
00:29:40.465 --> 00:29:42.467
So there is a marriage of those things.
00:29:42.487 --> 00:29:44.388
There are other elements that come into
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it.
00:29:45.169 --> 00:29:46.128
not just a salary,
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but you have to cross a threshold.
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And if you don't, it's like an insult.
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You know what I mean?
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You didn't even,
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it's not even above that dude.
00:29:52.011 --> 00:29:52.751
What are we talking about?
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I have a pulse and a license that
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grants me at least the floor.
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Then everything else on top of that
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explains how high the ceiling is.
00:29:59.894 --> 00:30:00.575
Like Dave says,
00:30:01.134 --> 00:30:02.415
you want to make just this and do
00:30:02.435 --> 00:30:02.655
this.
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I pay you eighty two.
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Great.
00:30:05.065 --> 00:30:05.865
Do nothing else.
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You make eighty two.
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Now, hey, man, between you and me,
00:30:08.549 --> 00:30:09.530
you want to do a buck thirty.
00:30:09.872 --> 00:30:11.314
Do this for fifty two weeks.
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I'll pay you one fifty.
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But that's where you become a part of
00:30:15.058 --> 00:30:15.619
the business.
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.801
You own your schedule.
00:30:17.142 --> 00:30:17.643
That's different.
00:30:17.663 --> 00:30:17.742
Yeah.
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In healthcare, outside of healthcare,
00:30:21.269 --> 00:30:23.431
there's a lot of people that stay at
00:30:23.471 --> 00:30:25.932
a job that they don't really love,
00:30:25.971 --> 00:30:27.952
but they'll continue because it's
00:30:27.992 --> 00:30:28.492
convenient.
00:30:28.532 --> 00:30:29.653
It's kind of close by.
00:30:30.374 --> 00:30:32.434
The people that don't want to commute and
00:30:32.454 --> 00:30:32.795
they're like,
00:30:33.056 --> 00:30:34.655
I have a job that's two blocks away
00:30:34.736 --> 00:30:36.136
or two miles away or whatever.
00:30:36.896 --> 00:30:39.838
They'll complain about it to their friends
00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:42.140
at dinner and at the bar.
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:44.040
But then they're also like, yeah,
00:30:44.080 --> 00:30:45.121
but it's like close.
00:30:45.181 --> 00:30:45.480
And like,
00:30:45.821 --> 00:30:47.241
I'm looking in the job market and like
00:30:47.382 --> 00:30:49.202
all the jobs are like way further away.
00:30:49.242 --> 00:30:50.304
It's like, you know,
00:30:50.324 --> 00:30:51.183
there's pros and cons.
00:30:52.164 --> 00:30:54.546
So my question with that though is,
00:30:56.166 --> 00:30:58.428
and this relates to the previous post,
00:30:58.627 --> 00:31:01.308
at what point when you start to feel
00:31:01.348 --> 00:31:04.510
like that, I'm not super happy,
00:31:04.611 --> 00:31:06.371
but it's a convenience.
00:31:06.451 --> 00:31:07.172
It's, you know, it's,
00:31:07.571 --> 00:31:10.413
It's like the girl you're dating in high
00:31:10.473 --> 00:31:11.755
school and you're like, well, it's just,
00:31:11.815 --> 00:31:13.175
it's easier not to break up.
00:31:13.717 --> 00:31:14.376
I don't love her.
00:31:14.837 --> 00:31:16.219
I'm not even having that much fun with
00:31:16.239 --> 00:31:18.500
her, but it's there, you know,
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.362
it's there every day and it's easy.
00:31:20.741 --> 00:31:23.023
I got a term.
00:31:23.203 --> 00:31:24.845
It's career cuffing season.
00:31:25.065 --> 00:31:25.826
That's what it is.
00:31:25.865 --> 00:31:27.126
It's like, ah, we hit fall.
00:31:27.146 --> 00:31:28.407
We're starting to go into November and
00:31:28.448 --> 00:31:28.928
December.
00:31:29.348 --> 00:31:30.630
I'm not finding a new girl right now.
00:31:30.650 --> 00:31:31.990
We're riding this one through till spring.
00:31:32.111 --> 00:31:33.271
That's cuffing season,
00:31:33.352 --> 00:31:35.272
career cuffing season.
00:31:35.333 --> 00:31:35.913
That's what it is.
00:31:37.133 --> 00:31:40.454
So my thing with it is we're therapists,
00:31:40.515 --> 00:31:40.755
right?
00:31:40.815 --> 00:31:43.435
If a patient comes to Dave and the
00:31:43.455 --> 00:31:44.576
patient's like, hey, Dave,
00:31:44.717 --> 00:31:45.718
I've never been a runner,
00:31:45.798 --> 00:31:46.917
never run in my life.
00:31:48.058 --> 00:31:49.920
I sprained my ankle going down the stairs
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:50.539
at home.
00:31:50.700 --> 00:31:51.901
This is my opportunity.
00:31:51.941 --> 00:31:53.121
I'm going to rehab my ankle.
00:31:53.161 --> 00:31:54.442
And then I want you to help me
00:31:54.501 --> 00:31:55.462
run my first five K.
00:31:57.265 --> 00:31:57.806
What do we do?
00:31:57.846 --> 00:31:58.967
We do an evaluation.
00:31:59.448 --> 00:32:01.371
We establish starting point.
00:32:01.511 --> 00:32:02.692
What do they have going for them?
00:32:02.733 --> 00:32:04.556
What do they have that's a deficit?
00:32:04.977 --> 00:32:07.401
We develop a plan to build strength,
00:32:07.441 --> 00:32:08.903
build endurance, build mobility,
00:32:08.963 --> 00:32:10.164
build the capacity
00:32:11.104 --> 00:32:13.125
And then we take them into the training
00:32:13.185 --> 00:32:14.046
for the five K.
00:32:14.606 --> 00:32:17.169
My thing with therapy is, okay, look,
00:32:17.368 --> 00:32:20.471
we know that this is a relatively capped
00:32:20.530 --> 00:32:21.111
profession.
00:32:21.171 --> 00:32:23.192
We know that there's only so many minutes
00:32:23.232 --> 00:32:23.712
in the day.
00:32:24.074 --> 00:32:25.914
There's only so many billable units I
00:32:25.934 --> 00:32:26.515
could deliver.
00:32:27.355 --> 00:32:30.077
I know that I have bigger aspirations than
00:32:30.298 --> 00:32:30.778
a hundred,
00:32:30.798 --> 00:32:33.619
a hundred and twenty K a year.
00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:35.321
I'm going to make my money first.
00:32:36.453 --> 00:32:38.214
And then I don't have to worry about
00:32:38.575 --> 00:32:39.056
the money.
00:32:39.096 --> 00:32:41.356
Then I can take a less,
00:32:41.817 --> 00:32:43.978
a lower paying job that has greater
00:32:44.038 --> 00:32:47.780
satisfaction and I won't get frustrated.
00:32:47.881 --> 00:32:51.163
I won't get that feeling of I need
00:32:51.182 --> 00:32:52.403
to do something else.
00:32:52.903 --> 00:32:54.244
I can focus on the patient.
00:32:54.365 --> 00:32:55.945
I can focus on the intervention.
00:32:56.006 --> 00:32:57.807
I can focus on being the best therapist
00:32:57.866 --> 00:33:00.127
I can be because I don't have the
00:33:00.167 --> 00:33:01.388
need for additional money.
00:33:01.449 --> 00:33:02.609
I've already made my money,
00:33:02.650 --> 00:33:04.730
whether it's real estate, media,
00:33:05.290 --> 00:33:07.556
you know any other thing you can do
00:33:07.836 --> 00:33:10.643
i still think and i agree with um
00:33:11.653 --> 00:33:12.313
I think it was Scott.
00:33:13.153 --> 00:33:15.875
We don't have to tie finances to patient
00:33:15.895 --> 00:33:16.175
care.
00:33:16.256 --> 00:33:17.696
We can keep them separate.
00:33:18.096 --> 00:33:20.238
We can live in that perfect world where
00:33:20.657 --> 00:33:22.298
I'm not watching the clock for one more
00:33:22.338 --> 00:33:23.779
minute to get another eight minute
00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:24.540
billable unit.
00:33:25.201 --> 00:33:26.541
I can just focus on the patient,
00:33:26.561 --> 00:33:29.242
but I can't do it if I'm struggling
00:33:29.282 --> 00:33:31.384
to pay my student loans, pay my mortgage,
00:33:31.424 --> 00:33:32.464
pay my car payment,
00:33:32.505 --> 00:33:34.125
pay for my kids to go to school
00:33:34.547 --> 00:33:36.367
and all the other stuff associated with
00:33:36.428 --> 00:33:36.688
life.
00:33:37.138 --> 00:33:39.138
Yeah, I went full Tony on this one.
00:33:39.298 --> 00:33:40.480
I'm sharing another thing, Tony.
00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:41.460
See if you can bring that on the
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:41.799
screen.
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.359
I think you're going to love this because
00:33:44.760 --> 00:33:46.040
it has a baseball card.
00:33:46.361 --> 00:33:47.461
So this is what I was trying to
00:33:47.500 --> 00:33:49.182
illustrate in this post.
00:33:49.342 --> 00:33:51.981
I essentially was saying, listen, I said,
00:33:52.061 --> 00:33:53.521
stop looking at the salary.
00:33:53.561 --> 00:33:54.002
And all of a sudden,
00:33:54.042 --> 00:33:54.542
Tony would be like,
00:33:54.583 --> 00:33:55.242
what are you talking about?
00:33:55.262 --> 00:33:56.083
There's no money involved.
00:33:56.123 --> 00:33:57.222
Dave would say there's no way someone's
00:33:57.242 --> 00:33:58.123
going to pay attention.
00:33:58.163 --> 00:33:59.763
But what I was really saying is play
00:33:59.804 --> 00:34:00.284
money ball.
00:34:01.104 --> 00:34:02.884
If salary is the only thing you're looking
00:34:02.964 --> 00:34:04.984
at, then salary is home runs.
00:34:05.065 --> 00:34:06.286
And you're neglecting the fact that this
00:34:06.306 --> 00:34:08.445
guy also this job also strikes out four
00:34:08.465 --> 00:34:09.085
hundred times a year.
00:34:09.326 --> 00:34:10.547
Yes, you get paid one fifty,
00:34:10.847 --> 00:34:12.447
but you hate it every time you walk
00:34:12.487 --> 00:34:12.766
in there.
00:34:13.126 --> 00:34:15.128
So what I was saying in here is
00:34:15.268 --> 00:34:17.548
what are the other stats that don't maybe
00:34:17.588 --> 00:34:18.309
make SportsCenter?
00:34:18.608 --> 00:34:19.829
Because everybody looks at this right
00:34:19.869 --> 00:34:20.090
away.
00:34:20.190 --> 00:34:21.289
Salary setting in hours.
00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:23.010
That's like back of the baseball card.
00:34:23.291 --> 00:34:24.751
Home runs batting average RBIs.
00:34:25.211 --> 00:34:26.692
But you need to pay attention to the
00:34:26.932 --> 00:34:27.713
other things.
00:34:27.853 --> 00:34:29.132
If you're going to be an employee,
00:34:29.494 --> 00:34:30.873
are you double booked or one-on-one?
00:34:31.333 --> 00:34:32.815
No judgment, but which one do you like?
00:34:33.155 --> 00:34:34.715
How many patients in a day really?
00:34:35.215 --> 00:34:36.436
Is there a mentor you want to know?
00:34:36.536 --> 00:34:39.157
All the things people bitch about after
00:34:39.197 --> 00:34:41.378
they get their first check and go, oh.
00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:44.380
That divided by two checks a month isn't
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.202
as big as it was after FICA shows
00:34:47.262 --> 00:34:48.023
up, whoever that is.
00:34:48.543 --> 00:34:50.106
So what I'm saying is,
00:34:51.045 --> 00:34:52.487
what if all jobs,
00:34:52.628 --> 00:34:53.889
this might be one for Dave,
00:34:54.228 --> 00:34:56.090
what if you could give a baseball card
00:34:56.210 --> 00:34:57.291
for your actual job?
00:34:58.106 --> 00:35:00.068
Yes, Valerie should be on there,
00:35:00.289 --> 00:35:03.795
but also you get a fifty two per
00:35:03.835 --> 00:35:06.179
caseload because that's awesome because
00:35:06.219 --> 00:35:08.101
normally people have to see that's fifty
00:35:08.121 --> 00:35:10.445
two visits in a month where when you
00:35:10.465 --> 00:35:11.447
start to lay that out there,
00:35:11.507 --> 00:35:12.748
if that bothers you.
00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:15.052
then you want to find a place that
00:35:15.092 --> 00:35:16.534
does the thing that makes you happy.
00:35:16.954 --> 00:35:18.615
And there's a balance in all these things.
00:35:18.836 --> 00:35:20.177
So it's not just home runs, RBIs,
00:35:20.217 --> 00:35:20.898
and batting average.
00:35:21.099 --> 00:35:21.699
You've got to figure out,
00:35:21.739 --> 00:35:22.581
can the guy field?
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:24.163
Can he steal a base every once in
00:35:24.182 --> 00:35:24.523
a while?
00:35:24.744 --> 00:35:26.226
Can he hit with runners?
00:35:26.365 --> 00:35:27.126
And the culture stuff.
00:35:27.367 --> 00:35:28.027
How are they going to be in the
00:35:28.047 --> 00:35:28.447
locker room?
00:35:28.507 --> 00:35:30.070
How are they going to be representing your
00:35:30.090 --> 00:35:30.391
brand?
00:35:30.771 --> 00:35:32.253
So I was trying to not make this
00:35:32.293 --> 00:35:33.233
about the clinician,
00:35:33.313 --> 00:35:35.836
not their clinical skills, but the job.
00:35:35.876 --> 00:35:37.179
Like, does it fit?
00:35:37.759 --> 00:35:39.882
Jimmy would not do well in basketball,
00:35:39.961 --> 00:35:41.322
but I'd thrive in ice hockey.
00:35:41.362 --> 00:35:42.505
Does that mean I'm a good athlete or
00:35:42.545 --> 00:35:42.945
bad athlete?
00:35:43.005 --> 00:35:44.266
It means I'm wrong for this,
00:35:44.527 --> 00:35:45.487
but right for this.
00:35:46.369 --> 00:35:47.648
Not all jobs are alike,
00:35:48.070 --> 00:35:49.469
but I feel like everybody and now that
00:35:49.489 --> 00:35:51.311
I'm working sort of in the sector where
00:35:51.331 --> 00:35:53.550
I'm trying to connect clinicians to jobs,
00:35:54.210 --> 00:35:54.911
I'm like, oh,
00:35:55.012 --> 00:35:57.052
this note looks nothing like this.
00:35:57.251 --> 00:35:59.432
Like your clinic environment looks badass,
00:35:59.452 --> 00:36:02.853
but you wrote competitive salary and great
00:36:02.893 --> 00:36:03.954
mentorship program.
00:36:03.994 --> 00:36:04.554
And I'm like, dude,
00:36:04.574 --> 00:36:06.715
that's that's ice mayonnaise flavored ice
00:36:06.735 --> 00:36:06.974
cream.
00:36:07.094 --> 00:36:07.936
That says nothing.
00:36:07.996 --> 00:36:08.896
No one asked for that.
00:36:09.115 --> 00:36:10.735
It's tangy, but I don't like it.
00:36:11.317 --> 00:36:12.257
Say something better.
00:36:15.608 --> 00:36:17.528
Quick shout out before we keep going.
00:36:18.409 --> 00:36:20.130
I saw a post from Will Boyd.
00:36:20.389 --> 00:36:21.570
I don't know if he's on today.
00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:24.871
He is restarting his podcast.
00:36:24.971 --> 00:36:26.692
Totally unrelated to everything else,
00:36:26.731 --> 00:36:28.652
but if you guys don't know Will Boyd.
00:36:29.612 --> 00:36:30.672
It's not unrelated though,
00:36:30.693 --> 00:36:32.893
because Will is like, okay,
00:36:32.913 --> 00:36:33.972
I'm going to use my clinical mind and
00:36:33.992 --> 00:36:35.373
I'm going to help people who run HVAC
00:36:35.393 --> 00:36:35.793
companies.
00:36:36.313 --> 00:36:37.273
Because HVAC people,
00:36:38.094 --> 00:36:39.655
people who run HVAC companies that he's
00:36:39.675 --> 00:36:41.155
helping don't have an HVAC problem.
00:36:41.576 --> 00:36:42.376
They have a,
00:36:42.456 --> 00:36:44.135
I keep putting piles of money into my
00:36:44.175 --> 00:36:45.677
bank account, but in six months,
00:36:45.717 --> 00:36:46.717
I don't have as much as I thought
00:36:46.757 --> 00:36:46.996
I did.
00:36:47.717 --> 00:36:48.978
He comes in and combs through the plate
00:36:49.038 --> 00:36:50.137
of spaghetti and figures it out.
00:36:50.918 --> 00:36:53.498
I picked up a Hormozy clip, an idea,
00:36:53.539 --> 00:36:55.360
and I wanted to see what you thought
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:55.719
about it.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.800
First of all, first of all,
00:37:00.601 --> 00:37:05.222
Hormozy just doing like these intimate
00:37:05.242 --> 00:37:05.603
moments
00:37:06.327 --> 00:37:08.650
like programs for like ten, twenty,
00:37:08.670 --> 00:37:09.391
thirty grand.
00:37:09.411 --> 00:37:10.532
And then you get like an hour with
00:37:10.572 --> 00:37:13.295
Alex Hormozy and then sharing all the
00:37:13.335 --> 00:37:15.396
video is a brilliant move.
00:37:15.536 --> 00:37:16.677
It's a brilliant move.
00:37:16.898 --> 00:37:17.679
It's a brilliant move.
00:37:18.099 --> 00:37:18.980
But this was one.
00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:21.061
He was the guy runs a martial arts
00:37:21.081 --> 00:37:22.864
studio and he's like,
00:37:23.503 --> 00:37:25.525
I don't know how to make a high
00:37:25.585 --> 00:37:26.847
end, a high ticket offer.
00:37:26.967 --> 00:37:28.027
And then Hormozy, of course,
00:37:28.047 --> 00:37:28.949
because this is all he does.
00:37:29.168 --> 00:37:30.451
He looks at it through the same lens.
00:37:30.471 --> 00:37:31.512
He goes, I know how you do that.
00:37:32.690 --> 00:37:34.394
You put the high-end ticket on the front.
00:37:34.916 --> 00:37:36.260
So you want to be in my judo
00:37:36.300 --> 00:37:36.721
class?
00:37:36.902 --> 00:37:39.266
You have to go through one-on-one until
00:37:39.286 --> 00:37:40.429
you get to the class.
00:37:41.344 --> 00:37:43.106
conventional wisdom would go i throw you
00:37:43.146 --> 00:37:44.847
in the class with everybody else for a
00:37:44.887 --> 00:37:46.668
hundred dollars a week and then if you
00:37:46.708 --> 00:37:48.509
eventually want to move up we move you
00:37:48.568 --> 00:37:50.168
up he goes no you don't get to
00:37:50.208 --> 00:37:52.070
be in my class with everybody until you
00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:53.990
understand how the class works and i
00:37:54.010 --> 00:37:55.672
decide how the class works so he puts
00:37:55.692 --> 00:37:57.472
the gate on the front and goes it's
00:37:57.492 --> 00:38:00.213
a thousand dollars a month until you can
00:38:00.255 --> 00:38:01.954
get to yellow belt or whatever it was
00:38:02.295 --> 00:38:03.655
then you can join the group class the
00:38:03.695 --> 00:38:05.597
group classes i have are all for blues
00:38:05.637 --> 00:38:07.277
and higher you can have the white belts
00:38:07.338 --> 00:38:09.219
over here for ninety nine bucks a week
00:38:09.298 --> 00:38:10.619
i'm not doing that and i was like
00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:11.000
oh
00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:13.342
What if we use that route for Tony's
00:38:13.581 --> 00:38:15.262
five K or marathon?
00:38:15.523 --> 00:38:16.443
You don't come in and get a three
00:38:16.463 --> 00:38:17.804
hundred dollar eval and then sixty bucks a
00:38:17.844 --> 00:38:18.125
pop.
00:38:18.465 --> 00:38:20.226
You pay you pay three grand.
00:38:20.726 --> 00:38:22.447
And then I decide if we keep moving
00:38:22.527 --> 00:38:22.648
on.
00:38:22.748 --> 00:38:24.168
It just reframes the value.
00:38:24.289 --> 00:38:25.530
And some people are going to love this
00:38:25.871 --> 00:38:26.911
and some people are going to hate this.
00:38:26.951 --> 00:38:27.811
And it feels icky.
00:38:28.112 --> 00:38:28.972
And that's OK.
00:38:29.873 --> 00:38:30.793
You do you, boo boo.
00:38:30.833 --> 00:38:32.936
You do you.
00:38:32.956 --> 00:38:33.576
Real quick,
00:38:33.896 --> 00:38:36.838
Teresa has been super active in these
00:38:36.858 --> 00:38:38.260
bananas today on LinkedIn.
00:38:39.574 --> 00:38:42.496
I remember this episode from Friends where
00:38:42.576 --> 00:38:43.536
Rachel says,
00:38:43.576 --> 00:38:45.317
who is this Spica lady and why is
00:38:45.336 --> 00:38:46.577
she taking all of my money?
00:38:48.099 --> 00:38:51.460
There's a hilarious video meme reel that's
00:38:51.641 --> 00:38:53.342
out where this guy is looking at his
00:38:53.382 --> 00:38:55.663
paycheck and he sees the same thing and
00:38:55.682 --> 00:38:58.545
he's like saying how this person is taking
00:38:58.585 --> 00:38:59.344
all his money.
00:39:00.106 --> 00:39:01.286
You guys are probably too young to
00:39:01.346 --> 00:39:01.766
remember,
00:39:01.827 --> 00:39:03.608
but thank you for sharing that great
00:39:03.668 --> 00:39:04.027
memory.
00:39:04.659 --> 00:39:04.898
Yeah.
00:39:04.938 --> 00:39:05.900
Somebody just, you just,
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:07.362
you just got to grow the top number.
00:39:07.561 --> 00:39:08.101
All right.
00:39:08.161 --> 00:39:08.262
And,
00:39:08.483 --> 00:39:12.306
and like to Jimmy's point is our offering
00:39:12.746 --> 00:39:13.286
allows you,
00:39:13.306 --> 00:39:14.748
we have a path for you to do
00:39:14.768 --> 00:39:17.231
that more than most other places in
00:39:17.291 --> 00:39:17.710
healthcare.
00:39:18.112 --> 00:39:18.592
Yeah.
00:39:18.632 --> 00:39:18.751
Yeah.
00:39:18.771 --> 00:39:20.474
What's a four hundred and one K that's
00:39:20.494 --> 00:39:21.114
a long race.
00:39:21.155 --> 00:39:21.914
I didn't run a race.
00:39:21.974 --> 00:39:23.277
Why did I get charged for a four
00:39:23.317 --> 00:39:24.297
hundred and one K?
00:39:24.818 --> 00:39:26.099
I ran a ten K three weeks ago.
00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:26.480
What is this?
00:39:27.315 --> 00:39:28.655
That's another reel.
00:39:28.797 --> 00:39:30.018
It's Will Ferrell.
00:39:30.057 --> 00:39:31.059
And he's like, look, right here,
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:32.860
we have four hundred and one thousand
00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:34.141
dollars in this account.
00:39:35.003 --> 00:39:35.784
And they're like, no,
00:39:35.844 --> 00:39:37.224
it's a four oh one K.
00:39:37.385 --> 00:39:40.047
And you have eleven dollars in there, sir.
00:39:40.349 --> 00:39:42.231
And you actually owe us money.
00:39:42.251 --> 00:39:42.891
What do you guys look at?
00:39:42.911 --> 00:39:44.373
What's one thing you guys are working on
00:39:44.413 --> 00:39:45.813
to solve in your business this week?
00:39:45.855 --> 00:39:48.077
Like what's a big, hairy, scary day?
00:39:49.849 --> 00:39:50.311
Big, hairy,
00:39:50.331 --> 00:39:51.894
scary thing that we're dealing with or
00:39:51.934 --> 00:39:53.177
trying to solve, did you say?
00:39:53.277 --> 00:39:54.681
Trying to solve, like you're actively,
00:39:54.722 --> 00:39:54.862
like,
00:39:54.902 --> 00:39:56.465
is it getting those people through the
00:39:56.686 --> 00:39:58.230
recruiting process to figure out which
00:39:58.250 --> 00:39:59.231
one's right or what is it?
00:40:00.253 --> 00:40:03.677
So that also have a we're looking at
00:40:04.217 --> 00:40:04.797
meta ads.
00:40:04.838 --> 00:40:06.579
So I'm speaking to two companies about
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.001
running Facebook and Facebook and
00:40:09.061 --> 00:40:10.623
Instagram ads, which is like secondary.
00:40:10.684 --> 00:40:11.764
Like the main thing is recruiting and
00:40:11.824 --> 00:40:12.105
hiring.
00:40:12.686 --> 00:40:14.266
Secondary is the meta stuff.
00:40:15.608 --> 00:40:15.909
Also,
00:40:16.228 --> 00:40:19.331
primary is we're hiring virtual assistants
00:40:19.371 --> 00:40:22.494
to answer our phones and do callbacks.
00:40:23.135 --> 00:40:23.195
Uh,
00:40:23.335 --> 00:40:26.297
and they have our customized script and
00:40:26.396 --> 00:40:28.277
all like in a design that they helped
00:40:28.318 --> 00:40:28.717
me make.
00:40:28.938 --> 00:40:29.358
Um,
00:40:29.378 --> 00:40:30.639
that's a whole other story with like
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.599
prompts and they, they're like copy,
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.081
they're like copy this and paste it into
00:40:34.101 --> 00:40:35.161
like chat GPT.
00:40:35.581 --> 00:40:36.181
And it just like,
00:40:36.282 --> 00:40:38.063
and asked me like fifty questions.
00:40:38.623 --> 00:40:39.583
And then at the end it like gives
00:40:39.603 --> 00:40:40.784
me this document that's like,
00:40:41.304 --> 00:40:43.465
it's twenty pages and it's like designed
00:40:43.865 --> 00:40:46.047
perfectly and, you know,
00:40:46.088 --> 00:40:47.969
separated out with like different like
00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:49.248
titles and sub headlines.
00:40:49.289 --> 00:40:49.670
But anyway.
00:40:50.469 --> 00:40:52.210
the recruiting is the main thing as well
00:40:52.670 --> 00:40:54.431
as at the same time also equally as
00:40:54.471 --> 00:40:56.371
important is getting this virtual
00:40:56.391 --> 00:40:58.152
assistant company to be answering our
00:40:58.172 --> 00:41:00.512
phone calls uh doing callbacks text backs
00:41:00.773 --> 00:41:03.112
uh being in our high level to uh
00:41:03.293 --> 00:41:06.534
make calls from uh like like a new
00:41:06.554 --> 00:41:08.094
york city number even though they're going
00:41:08.114 --> 00:41:10.155
to be based in costa rica and the
00:41:10.195 --> 00:41:12.094
two that uh we're having we're going to
00:41:12.114 --> 00:41:15.056
be having to uh compete against each other
00:41:15.556 --> 00:41:16.456
And in the short term,
00:41:16.476 --> 00:41:17.338
they're going to compete and we're going
00:41:17.358 --> 00:41:18.518
to see who wins and has the best
00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:19.498
conversion rate.
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:20.260
In the long term,
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:21.780
I think they're both going to work for
00:41:21.860 --> 00:41:22.362
us anyway.
00:41:25.063 --> 00:41:26.103
I think for me,
00:41:26.344 --> 00:41:28.606
aside from the media stuff that you guys
00:41:28.887 --> 00:41:29.947
see me sharing,
00:41:30.027 --> 00:41:32.329
my objective and what I'm talking to AI
00:41:32.349 --> 00:41:35.492
about is I just cracked a thousand a
00:41:35.532 --> 00:41:37.152
week in revenue from Facebook.
00:41:38.273 --> 00:41:40.635
I had twenty-two million views.
00:41:41.474 --> 00:41:43.898
I want to hit over a hundred million
00:41:43.918 --> 00:41:44.380
views.
00:41:44.541 --> 00:41:46.284
I want to hit ten thousand a month
00:41:46.364 --> 00:41:49.911
just from Facebook ads or not ads ad
00:41:49.951 --> 00:41:51.655
revenue income from Facebook.
00:41:52.507 --> 00:41:54.389
No digital product, no other thing,
00:41:54.670 --> 00:41:57.512
just Facebook paying me to share posts.
00:41:58.012 --> 00:41:58.873
But aside from that,
00:41:59.634 --> 00:42:02.376
more in Jimmy's world now,
00:42:02.916 --> 00:42:05.318
as we're busy as heck in the clinic
00:42:05.358 --> 00:42:06.820
right now, I'm not hiring,
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.141
I refuse to hire,
00:42:08.661 --> 00:42:10.262
so I need to optimize.
00:42:10.302 --> 00:42:11.623
I need to figure out like,
00:42:11.903 --> 00:42:13.005
how do I streamline?
00:42:13.346 --> 00:42:14.626
How do I make effective notes?
00:42:14.746 --> 00:42:16.768
I ran into an issue which shocks me,
00:42:16.829 --> 00:42:17.728
but it happens,
00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:20.612
where a single third party payer
00:42:21.713 --> 00:42:23.393
We joined the network.
00:42:23.994 --> 00:42:25.976
I sent documentation for submission.
00:42:26.295 --> 00:42:27.918
They didn't want to pay me for Therax.
00:42:28.318 --> 00:42:29.498
And I was like, what the heck?
00:42:29.539 --> 00:42:31.420
Why are you not paying me for Therax?
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.583
And I realized it's because I
00:42:35.242 --> 00:42:38.186
inadvertently said range of motion within
00:42:38.266 --> 00:42:39.007
normal limits,
00:42:39.146 --> 00:42:40.507
strength within normal limits.
00:42:41.123 --> 00:42:43.264
Well, that's because to me it is.
00:42:43.824 --> 00:42:44.105
You know,
00:42:44.125 --> 00:42:45.726
that doesn't mean that this person doesn't
00:42:45.766 --> 00:42:46.925
need to exercise.
00:42:47.425 --> 00:42:50.927
So like that was a technical mistake I
00:42:50.967 --> 00:42:53.307
made as somebody who teaches documentation
00:42:53.347 --> 00:42:53.949
at times.
00:42:54.768 --> 00:42:55.228
And I'm like,
00:42:55.528 --> 00:42:57.929
I can't speak to the third party payer
00:42:57.969 --> 00:42:59.630
the way I would speak to Dave or
00:42:59.670 --> 00:43:00.971
Jimmy or another therapist.
00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:01.670
Gotta play the game.
00:43:01.791 --> 00:43:02.572
Gotta play the game.
00:43:02.612 --> 00:43:03.052
You got it.
00:43:03.211 --> 00:43:06.273
So now I need to refine a system
00:43:06.293 --> 00:43:08.534
that I had been working on for twenty
00:43:08.574 --> 00:43:08.914
years.
00:43:09.594 --> 00:43:11.054
to make sure, no,
00:43:11.215 --> 00:43:13.434
I can't say that it's within normal
00:43:13.474 --> 00:43:13.775
limits.
00:43:13.916 --> 00:43:16.916
I have to identify deficits so that I
00:43:16.956 --> 00:43:19.057
justify the therapeutic exercise that I
00:43:19.077 --> 00:43:19.597
want to use.
00:43:19.617 --> 00:43:21.577
So it's that kind of stuff.
00:43:22.278 --> 00:43:23.938
It's dummy proofing the system.
00:43:24.378 --> 00:43:25.960
So literally,
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.021
I could pull somebody off the street
00:43:28.661 --> 00:43:29.940
They could walk into this clinic,
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.402
they could treat a patient and the patient
00:43:31.422 --> 00:43:33.963
gets a positive outcome and we get paid.
00:43:34.023 --> 00:43:34.623
Bingo.
00:43:34.643 --> 00:43:35.623
Did you see what I was doing?
00:43:36.043 --> 00:43:37.204
I think I did one for both of
00:43:37.224 --> 00:43:38.164
you on Facebook, but Tony,
00:43:38.184 --> 00:43:38.963
I don't know if you saw it.
00:43:39.103 --> 00:43:40.965
I was sitting there and I was saying,
00:43:41.304 --> 00:43:43.585
what are some untapped data points that
00:43:43.626 --> 00:43:46.106
clinics have that they could use even to
00:43:46.146 --> 00:43:48.007
just do some self analysis and self
00:43:48.047 --> 00:43:48.447
awareness?
00:43:49.068 --> 00:43:49.288
And
00:43:50.407 --> 00:43:51.909
I was hanging out with my buddy Claude.
00:43:52.210 --> 00:43:54.231
Me and Claude were hanging and Claude was
00:43:54.251 --> 00:43:54.452
like,
00:43:54.811 --> 00:43:56.393
why don't you check out Clinics Google
00:43:56.434 --> 00:43:56.873
reviews?
00:43:57.134 --> 00:43:57.574
So I found it.
00:43:57.675 --> 00:43:58.295
I just said, hey,
00:43:58.335 --> 00:43:59.637
drop your name of your clinic.
00:44:00.077 --> 00:44:01.478
I would go and find their Google reviews.
00:44:01.798 --> 00:44:03.320
I'd copy paste that into an AI.
00:44:03.579 --> 00:44:05.001
I gave it a little magical zhuzhed up
00:44:05.041 --> 00:44:06.382
prompt that I worked on for about a
00:44:06.422 --> 00:44:06.882
half hour.
00:44:07.284 --> 00:44:07.844
And then I was like,
00:44:08.324 --> 00:44:09.344
do something with this.
00:44:09.485 --> 00:44:11.206
Like there's an internal version like,
00:44:11.246 --> 00:44:11.487
hey,
00:44:12.208 --> 00:44:14.088
Charlene, who's at the front desk,
00:44:14.268 --> 00:44:15.929
pops up a lot.
00:44:16.148 --> 00:44:18.369
Maybe understand that your front desk is
00:44:18.429 --> 00:44:20.331
crushing it and people are saying how
00:44:20.371 --> 00:44:20.971
great she is.
00:44:21.291 --> 00:44:23.172
So what it's doing is it's sifting through
00:44:23.572 --> 00:44:26.213
the haystack for the golden needles and
00:44:26.253 --> 00:44:27.612
telling you what to pay attention to.
00:44:27.952 --> 00:44:29.554
But it can also rewrite your marketing.
00:44:29.974 --> 00:44:30.715
Because we always say,
00:44:30.934 --> 00:44:32.257
meet the patient where they are.
00:44:32.396 --> 00:44:32.697
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:32.858 --> 00:44:33.559
And while you're there,
00:44:33.858 --> 00:44:35.181
talk to them like they talk.
00:44:35.722 --> 00:44:37.625
And if they're honestly giving good Google
00:44:37.664 --> 00:44:40.128
reviews, listen to what words pop up.
00:44:40.568 --> 00:44:41.610
And some clinics, I mean,
00:44:41.690 --> 00:44:43.932
I did one yesterday, seven years,
00:44:44.414 --> 00:44:46.617
and not one review was less than five
00:44:46.677 --> 00:44:47.057
stars.
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.742
With Dave, it said two reviews came up,
00:44:51.322 --> 00:44:53.704
but then it clearly analyzed why he got
00:44:53.905 --> 00:44:55.067
less than five-star reviews,
00:44:55.387 --> 00:44:57.389
and it was a missed expectation.
00:44:57.489 --> 00:45:00.092
And we talked about it before.
00:45:01.193 --> 00:45:03.474
Where I got that idea from is somebody
00:45:03.534 --> 00:45:04.755
tagged me in a video,
00:45:04.835 --> 00:45:06.077
or one of you guys tagged me in
00:45:06.097 --> 00:45:06.577
a video,
00:45:08.179 --> 00:45:18.005
where the fish bone museum â
00:45:13.163 --> 00:45:15.043
Someone wrote a review that said worst
00:45:15.083 --> 00:45:15.945
aquarium ever.
00:45:16.065 --> 00:45:18.626
It's a it's like it's a bone museum.
00:45:18.666 --> 00:45:20.668
It's like like they had like skeletons of
00:45:20.728 --> 00:45:22.509
fish and people were like worst aquarium
00:45:22.610 --> 00:45:22.789
ever.
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It's like, sir, this is a Wendy's.
00:45:24.331 --> 00:45:25.110
This is not an aquarium.
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But I was like,
00:45:25.931 --> 00:45:30.054
what other old mine of blasphemous or
00:45:30.114 --> 00:45:31.715
really great content is out there?
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It's fantastic.
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I mean, I did it.
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I did a Google review post in my
00:45:36.309 --> 00:45:38.632
local bike shop that Google because Google
00:45:38.652 --> 00:45:40.954
tells me now they got ten thousand views.
00:45:41.193 --> 00:45:43.996
I got ten thousand views for saying, hey,
00:45:44.016 --> 00:45:44.757
these guys are great.
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They sharpen my skates and fix my bike
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like people are willing to say stuff.
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What are you doing with that knowledge?
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So if you want that prompt,
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I'm doing it for a bunch of people
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who are now putting their links to their
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clinics.
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on my Facebook account.
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I'm just running it through the same
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prompt and I'm giving them the results,
00:46:00.831 --> 00:46:02.512
but you can do this too.
00:46:02.532 --> 00:46:03.692
This is a magic what I'm doing.
00:46:04.452 --> 00:46:06.253
But by the way, Tony's walking around.
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Do you see that the camera's falling?
00:46:07.972 --> 00:46:08.853
I was going to ask him,
00:46:08.913 --> 00:46:09.672
I was going to ask him how he's
00:46:09.693 --> 00:46:09.954
doing.
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That's gotta be something in stream yard.
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Cause that's nothing that I've done.
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No,
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I'm going to say I'm going to sign
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off.
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Cause I got a new patient waiting for
00:46:23.376 --> 00:46:23.516
me.
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So I'll catch you guys next week.
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Sounds good.
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All right.
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Shout out Randall Williams.
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Finally caught a live here.
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Always appreciate you guys and all the
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:34.240
input.
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That's awesome.
00:46:34.721 --> 00:46:35.541
Thank you for the feedback.
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:36.221
Randall.
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All right.
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Let's do parting shots because I'm like,
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I got to go get like a coffee
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or something.
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I just did my morning scoot.
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I got a Segway scooter.
00:46:45.643 --> 00:46:46.623
And this is the lesson, right?
00:46:46.643 --> 00:46:48.264
Because if you're on LinkedIn long enough
00:46:48.744 --> 00:46:50.023
and you stub your toe, you're like,
00:46:50.043 --> 00:46:50.923
I stubbed my toe yesterday.
00:46:50.943 --> 00:46:51.884
And here's what it taught me about B
00:46:51.903 --> 00:46:52.385
to B sales.
00:46:52.405 --> 00:46:53.965
Like you can spin anything into content,
00:46:54.005 --> 00:46:54.184
right?
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Hold on, hold on.
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You have a Segway scooter,
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like the upright ones,
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like just totally vertical?
00:46:58.909 --> 00:46:59.690
It's a regular scooter,
00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:00.490
but it's just electric.
00:47:00.510 --> 00:47:01.090
Okay, electric.
00:47:01.150 --> 00:47:02.472
Yeah, not like a hoverboard.
00:47:02.753 --> 00:47:03.713
I would hurt myself on that.
00:47:04.074 --> 00:47:06.074
So I now commute once a week to
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the office.
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The train is great.
00:47:08.076 --> 00:47:08.536
I love trains.
00:47:08.556 --> 00:47:09.177
You don't have to park.
00:47:09.197 --> 00:47:09.737
You don't have to think.
00:47:09.757 --> 00:47:10.597
You can work on the train.
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But then I get here,
00:47:12.059 --> 00:47:13.260
and I got to walk like a mile
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and a half.
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And some of you guys are like, bro,
00:47:14.721 --> 00:47:15.362
get your steps in.
00:47:15.621 --> 00:47:16.862
Except I get to the office.
00:47:17.322 --> 00:47:18.844
You know how it is.
00:47:18.884 --> 00:47:19.184
You're sweaty.
00:47:19.204 --> 00:47:19.463
I'm sweating.
00:47:19.503 --> 00:47:19.764
It's humid.
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It's humid here.
00:47:20.105 --> 00:47:20.445
It's humid, right?
00:47:20.465 --> 00:47:23.447
It's humid in the Northeast.
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Even early in the morning.
00:47:24.547 --> 00:47:25.528
But then I said, hey, man,
00:47:25.568 --> 00:47:26.909
let's get some let's close some rings.
00:47:26.929 --> 00:47:27.949
Let's rent a city bike.
00:47:27.989 --> 00:47:29.231
You know what a city bike is for
00:47:29.271 --> 00:47:30.152
a mile and a half?
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It's like ten bucks.
00:47:32.132 --> 00:47:32.853
I got the money,
00:47:32.893 --> 00:47:35.396
but it's like it just like the train
00:47:35.436 --> 00:47:38.237
ride for two hours is fifteen dollars.
00:47:38.898 --> 00:47:40.159
The city bike for mile and a half
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is ten.
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I'm like, you know what?
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That doesn't make sense.
00:47:43.842 --> 00:47:44.862
That doesn't make sense to me.
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But this shows you the irrationality.
00:47:46.242 --> 00:47:48.264
I'd rather buy a four hundred dollar
00:47:48.344 --> 00:47:50.907
scooter and do that because if I rent
00:47:50.927 --> 00:47:51.226
the bike,
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I still got to pedal the damn thing.
00:47:52.447 --> 00:47:53.889
I'm not solving the sweaty problem.
00:47:54.269 --> 00:47:56.231
And if I stop coming to this office,
00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:57.751
I can sell the scooter.
00:47:58.112 --> 00:47:59.534
I'm buying an asset that I can sell
00:47:59.813 --> 00:48:00.813
for less money than I bought it.
00:48:00.835 --> 00:48:01.914
But I got my mileage out of it.
00:48:02.315 --> 00:48:02.675
Anyway,
00:48:03.255 --> 00:48:04.858
it got me thinking about the golden mile
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problem.
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I can get all the way close here.
00:48:08.358 --> 00:48:09.438
I can get to Hoboken,
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but I can't get to a mile and
00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:14.001
a half without walking or sweating through
00:48:14.021 --> 00:48:14.840
my polo here.
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So that's what you're solving.
00:48:18.001 --> 00:48:19.742
People can go to AI and figure out
00:48:20.422 --> 00:48:21.342
my back hurts.
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How do I die?
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It's the doing and the organizing and the
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putting.
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It's the golden mile problem.
00:48:27.965 --> 00:48:29.505
That is why I think you're still
00:48:29.965 --> 00:48:32.447
incredibly valuable.
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It's not...
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The physical therapist.
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The physical therapist.
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The practitioner.
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It is not the fact that you can
00:48:42.927 --> 00:48:47.148
pull a book off the shelf and it's
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anatomy and physiology.
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That is now Google boxable.
00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:52.690
That you and your friend Claude can figure
00:48:52.710 --> 00:48:53.030
that out.
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It is the golden mile problem.
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You are putting it in context.
00:48:56.972 --> 00:48:58.213
You are giving a clear plan.
00:48:58.572 --> 00:49:00.313
You can pivot that plan over and over
00:49:00.353 --> 00:49:00.594
again.
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That is with human connection.
00:49:02.815 --> 00:49:05.536
That is not yet anyway figured out by
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AI.
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So my golden mile problem was I spent
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four hundred bucks without even thinking
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.081
about it twice on a scooter because I
00:49:11.121 --> 00:49:12.702
had a four hundred dollar problem and I
00:49:12.742 --> 00:49:13.563
had four hundred dollars.
00:49:13.583 --> 00:49:14.364
I decided to solve it.
00:49:15.204 --> 00:49:16.905
If someone can't run and to them,
00:49:17.425 --> 00:49:19.306
that's a big that's a two thousand dollar
00:49:19.347 --> 00:49:21.007
problem and they have two thousand
00:49:21.047 --> 00:49:21.389
dollars.
00:49:21.628 --> 00:49:22.590
If you don't ask for it,
00:49:22.730 --> 00:49:24.311
that's that's that's a bad move on your
00:49:24.351 --> 00:49:24.490
part.
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Parting shot to just double click on that
00:49:28.626 --> 00:49:33.389
is that I believe that our true patient
00:49:33.429 --> 00:49:36.389
client customer will always want our
00:49:36.451 --> 00:49:36.931
service.
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And I do not care how advanced AI
00:49:39.532 --> 00:49:41.913
thinks it'll be or will ever get.
00:49:42.849 --> 00:49:44.731
that the last mile, the golden mile,
00:49:44.751 --> 00:49:45.753
the last mile that you're talking about,
00:49:45.813 --> 00:49:48.576
the same thing that HVAC will definitely
00:49:48.596 --> 00:49:50.056
never be replaced because you need someone
00:49:50.077 --> 00:49:52.478
to come here and your plumber and your
00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:56.643
roofer and any other service provider to
00:49:56.704 --> 00:49:59.065
work on your plumbing or whatever,
00:49:59.085 --> 00:50:00.106
your dishwasher, whatever it is.
00:50:01.188 --> 00:50:02.148
And the same thing for
00:50:03.088 --> 00:50:04.710
your aches or pains or health,
00:50:04.730 --> 00:50:06.192
when you need accountability,
00:50:06.231 --> 00:50:07.893
when you need extra oversight,
00:50:08.193 --> 00:50:10.976
when you need someone to trust that,
00:50:11.315 --> 00:50:12.356
and maybe it's a second opinion,
00:50:12.376 --> 00:50:13.257
maybe it's a third opinion,
00:50:13.277 --> 00:50:13.898
whatever it might be,
00:50:13.998 --> 00:50:17.300
but it's not even like the human
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:19.663
connection, but it's just like the human,
00:50:20.003 --> 00:50:20.844
the other human,
00:50:21.576 --> 00:50:24.177
to help you in whatever it is,
00:50:24.197 --> 00:50:26.219
back pain, neuropathy, headaches,
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:28.202
like what, whatever your issue is walking.
00:50:28.641 --> 00:50:30.224
I mean, specifically like, like, you know,
00:50:30.264 --> 00:50:32.786
half our business is geriatric where, um,
00:50:33.789 --> 00:50:36.090
It's someone that is mostly homebound.
00:50:36.670 --> 00:50:38.271
How is AI ever replacing that?
00:50:38.371 --> 00:50:38.871
It's not.
00:50:38.972 --> 00:50:39.592
It will never.
00:50:39.652 --> 00:50:41.434
We have someone right now that's being
00:50:41.454 --> 00:50:43.195
discharged from a Manhattan nursing home,
00:50:43.516 --> 00:50:44.856
and we're helping with the transition to
00:50:44.896 --> 00:50:46.677
get this guy home to his home apartment.
00:50:47.297 --> 00:50:50.460
AI will literally never replace any aspect
00:50:50.619 --> 00:50:52.021
of that process.
00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:53.402
And then the next step,
00:50:53.422 --> 00:50:56.284
which is the service delivery of the home
00:50:56.324 --> 00:50:58.826
visits and charging three fifty per visit
00:50:58.846 --> 00:50:59.826
out of pocket in New York City.
00:51:00.126 --> 00:51:00.487
And over time,
00:51:00.507 --> 00:51:02.447
we're going to raise our prices and we
00:51:02.467 --> 00:51:03.528
will never be replaced.
00:51:04.088 --> 00:51:04.369
It will.
00:51:04.510 --> 00:51:06.210
So it will weed out all the stuff
00:51:06.231 --> 00:51:07.972
that shouldn't have been a PT visit in
00:51:08.012 --> 00:51:08.572
the first place.
00:51:09.132 --> 00:51:09.213
Yep.
00:51:09.432 --> 00:51:10.253
That is what it will do.
00:51:10.353 --> 00:51:11.054
And that's great.
00:51:11.355 --> 00:51:12.596
And I love that for the consumer.
00:51:12.775 --> 00:51:14.177
And I actually love that for the clinician
00:51:14.456 --> 00:51:15.858
because we want to be treating people who
00:51:15.898 --> 00:51:17.018
really need to see us long term.
00:51:17.259 --> 00:51:17.458
Right.
00:51:17.759 --> 00:51:19.181
I think it will weed out the stuff
00:51:19.201 --> 00:51:20.201
that never should have been on your
00:51:20.461 --> 00:51:22.003
caseload anyway.
00:51:22.262 --> 00:51:22.922
And that's good.
00:51:23.264 --> 00:51:24.403
Some of it will get through because that
00:51:24.443 --> 00:51:25.826
person just wanted reassurance from
00:51:25.865 --> 00:51:27.286
something with a heartbeat and a pulse.
00:51:27.847 --> 00:51:29.208
But I think a lot of it will
00:51:29.228 --> 00:51:30.809
weed out the stuff that never should have
00:51:30.829 --> 00:51:31.989
hit your schedule anyway.
00:51:32.728 --> 00:51:34.269
I will say my one caveat is this
00:51:34.309 --> 00:51:37.251
will make our job more complex because now
00:51:37.271 --> 00:51:40.012
you're not just doing out of ten patients
00:51:40.052 --> 00:51:42.054
in a day, four easy,
00:51:42.153 --> 00:51:44.474
four medium and two hard.
00:51:44.494 --> 00:51:45.155
Did I do the math right?
00:51:45.195 --> 00:51:45.456
Eight, yeah.
00:51:46.536 --> 00:51:49.438
Now you're doing, you know, seven hard,
00:51:49.498 --> 00:51:50.237
three medium.
00:51:50.257 --> 00:51:51.539
There's no easy, right?
00:51:51.579 --> 00:51:52.619
And easy is relative.
00:51:52.659 --> 00:51:53.880
I'm not saying anything is necessarily
00:51:53.900 --> 00:51:54.219
easy.
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:55.079
But you get what I mean.
00:51:55.099 --> 00:51:55.840
It's like a lot of those stuff is
00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:56.481
getting weeded out.
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:58.802
Hey, you just got more complex.
00:51:59.181 --> 00:51:59.862
That's the bad news.
00:51:59.902 --> 00:52:01.862
The good news is complex is valuable.
00:52:02.523 --> 00:52:03.164
That's right.
00:52:03.184 --> 00:52:05.425
And people paid to solve it.
00:52:05.824 --> 00:52:06.545
Hell, yeah, they do.
00:52:07.385 --> 00:52:08.445
We'll see you guys on Thursday.
00:52:08.485 --> 00:52:09.907
I will be less sweaty.
00:52:09.927 --> 00:52:11.068
But maybe I will be riding the scooter
00:52:11.088 --> 00:52:11.668
around my driveway.
00:52:11.688 --> 00:52:12.047
You never know.