The Career Move Most PTs Ignore (And Pay For Later)

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Here's your host, Jimmy McKay.

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All right, cheers.

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sarahhealth.com that is sarah s-a-r-a

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health

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Now,

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most physical therapists focus on getting

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better at treating patients,

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but the ones who build lasting careers in

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businesses usually do something else

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entirely.

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They plug into something bigger than just

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themselves.

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They go out and find mentors,

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they build networks,

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and they stay involved in shaping their

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profession.

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And in turn,

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the profession winds up shaping them.

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Today's guest has spent decades doing just

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that, while building a private practice,

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teaching the next generation,

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and helping lead one of the most active

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physical therapist and physical therapist

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assistant communities in the country.

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And now she's helping bring that entire

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community together in one spot

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IRL, in real life, in person,

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to celebrate where the profession's been,

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dot, dot, dot, and where it's going.

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Let's bring in Edie Benner to the show.

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Edie, welcome to the program.

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Thank you so much, Jimmy.

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It's great to be on the show.

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How was that intro?

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Was that pretty, was I close to,

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you know?

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Nailed it.

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All right, good.

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You're on target.

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We are ready to have some fun this

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year.

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And thanks to just all the years of

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being able to connect with friends and

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colleagues and

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mentors and students.

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It's just great to be a part of

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your show and carry on some excitement for

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our events here in Ohio, too,

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that many other states are getting ready

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to celebrate various types of exciting

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events and occurrences and anniversaries

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and birthdays and their leaders.

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And it's just great.

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Yeah, big milestones.

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Let's start with you.

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You've worn a lot of hats, clinic owner,

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educator, association leader.

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What made you get involved and stay

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involved in the profession beyond treating

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patients like you did?

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It started back in school.

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I went to the University of Miami back

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in the heyday,

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and I think we went to our district

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meetings.

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We went up to Orlando to the state

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association.

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meetings and then when I got to be

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a clinician right away I was in a

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large facility and all the therapists were

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engaged they were mentors to me they were

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my peers they weren't only just clinic

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mentors we went to the local district

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meetings that was back in the day when

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you went to district meetings every month

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and then you stopped for a beer afterwards

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and everybody connected and guess what

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those friends are still friends now and I

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hope many of them are continuing to uh

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be a part of the association.

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Yeah.

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So it sounds like you tried it a

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little bit and you found something or some

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things there when you were in person that

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you said, Ooh,

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I didn't expect this to be here or

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didn't know about this.

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And that led to the answer is always

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people that led to people,

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which led to more things,

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which leads to more people.

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And it just builds a, a network.

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You know, some people will point to, well,

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how many connections do you have on

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LinkedIn?

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And that's nice.

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But to me, that's a beauty pageant metric.

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The real connections are someone you know

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well enough that you can call or text

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or when you see, you understand,

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number one, how you get to help them.

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And then the funny part is eventually it

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sort of does come back.

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It does.

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It goes full circle and it just continues

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to create like a whirling cyclone effect

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because those friends from years ago in

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this case are still friends.

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And the friends that I met,

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even students today when I was up at

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Cleveland State teaching,

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those students are already starting to

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become

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friends and they're just so excited about

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the profession.

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And there's still so many of us who've

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been doing this for a few years that

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are still excited to be a part of

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the profession and celebrate so many

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milestones,

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whether it's in our district level,

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within our facilities, our state level,

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our national level,

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or even shoot with the whole world.

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It's so much happening with physical

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therapy and so much exciting in the

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healthcare world that we just need to keep

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it moving forward and

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keep those connections growing so that we

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have more to just more to our physical

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therapy life.

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I almost call it like our family.

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It's our friends and our family and

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they're all connected.

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So it's our physical therapy family and

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they're just going to be there for us

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forever.

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Well,

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the world changes from time to time to

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time.

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So a lot of times PTs or PTAs,

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we'll see associations as extra, right?

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You said back in the day,

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you used to go to district meetings and

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things in the world move in pendulums.

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A couple of years ago,

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everything we did was online and then

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building a connection in real life was

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harder.

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So what have associations given you that

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you couldn't have gotten otherwise without

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showing up and meeting those people you

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mentioned?

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Boy,

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I think all of us who went into

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the physical therapy profession,

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we love the interaction.

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We love the energy and the vibe we

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get out of our interactions with our

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patients and our clients.

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And then from there,

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you can build that excitement with your

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friends and develop the network of, hey,

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I've got this patient and I just really

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don't know what to do with them.

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And so you can give somebody a call

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because their expertise is related to

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whatever that diagnosis might be.

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Plus, I think as PTs,

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we kind of like to have some fun.

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So these district meetings,

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they're also a lot of fun,

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whether it's the old fashioned way where

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we met in a hotel reception ballroom and

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had just didactic meetings to

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Now,

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where we have more of our pub crawls

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and some events like that,

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or we meet at Topgolf,

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or we go to some of the local

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baseball games as a group to just gather.

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I think we're people people.

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And so it's so important for us to

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not really add that to our life,

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just make it part of your professional

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life.

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Sure.

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Now,

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let me let me let me force you

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to change a hat now.

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From a clinic owner perspective,

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how does being plugged into a community

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like OPTA or any state chapter similar to

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that,

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how does being plugged into that community

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actually impact your business?

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You mentioned how it sort of impacted your

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clinical life, your friends,

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but how about business?

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Oh, from a business perspective,

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I would be lost without the association

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mentorship and guidance and

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everything from the networking at the PPS

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meetings to even at the APTA meetings.

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It's just so important to read and

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understand and be able to bounce ideas

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off.

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I think I was listening to one of

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your podcasts about metrics and just with

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Katie and talking about

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how important it is to figure out what

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metrics are important for you and your

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clinic and then making them meaningful and

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then being able to put some action to

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them so that it helps to build that

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collegial relationship and that

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understanding amongst your staff and your

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peers so that they can understand why you

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need to take a look at these KPIs

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or these benchmarks,

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or just look at the business side of

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things.

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Because if we can't follow the business

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part of the profession,

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we won't be here in our communities to

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be a part of our community and be

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here to serve your community and provide

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the awesome things we do besides just

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physical therapy.

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Yeah.

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I feel like it's a deeper way to

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be connected to people who are doing

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things that are close, similar,

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or completely different to what you're

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doing and then figuring out

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Wow, would that work for me?

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Or what did they learn from that?

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What can I take from that?

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What is this teaching me?

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And you can get some of that online.

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I'm a guy that lives a lot online.

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But online is not the only way.

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And sometimes it's not the best way for

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everything.

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It's not.

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No,

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I think just that personal human

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connection is so important for everything

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we do,

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just not only for how we interact with

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our patients, but shoot,

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how we deal with our chambers of commerce

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and being a part of your community,

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because then those people,

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you talk about marketing and connection,

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that's where you get your patients.

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When you're out in the community and

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you're a part of the chamber of commerce

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or the rotary,

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or you put on a race and you

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have

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a five K race, walk, hike, scavenger hunt,

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Easter egg hunt,

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and they come to your clinic and then

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you go outside and they see that you're

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excited about life and you're excited

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about your profession.

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And so they want to come to see

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you when they have something that is

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impacting their life,

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whether they can't participate at the

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level of a run or a walk or

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pick up their grandkids for that,

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that reason.

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So it's just crucial.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Quick pause because you're a clinic owner.

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This part matters.

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Documentation, billing, workflows,

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all lives inside your EMR.

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And if your system is clunky,

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the whole clinic feels it.

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It doesn't feel good.

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That's where Empower EMR comes in.

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But specifically for PT,

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Empower is designed to simplify your

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workflow, not slow it down.

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Faster documentation, better reporting,

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and tools that actually help you run your

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business because your EMR shouldn't be

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something you fight every day.

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That would be frustrating.

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Check them out online at empoweremr.com.

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That's empoweremr.com.

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Edie, we got to pay the bills.

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We got to do the live.

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I know the feeling.

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Thank you.

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And thank you to Empower.

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Yeah, there you go.

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So you've mentioned before the shift from

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an expert to more of a coaching model.

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Correct.

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How have you seen that play out in

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real clinics?

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How is sort of shifting that changed

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things?

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Well,

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I think it builds that therapeutic

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alliance,

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that relationship with your patient or

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client,

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depending on

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Whether you're taking it more as a

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lifestyle medicine,

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health coaching perspective versus the old

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fashioned expert approach where you as the

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leader or the expert come in and tell

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a patient what they need to do.

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and they just sit there with their big

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eyes like in a headlight,

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deer in a headlight look, and they go,

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oh, okay.

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They go home.

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They don't remember a darn thing you said.

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You haven't built any rapport.

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You haven't built any of the goals that

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they have in their life,

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and so they get home.

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They don't understand what it is to do,

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and they don't follow through,

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so we get into the health coaching model.

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It's a collaborative relationship.

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It's open-ended questions.

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You're

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motivational interviewing techniques where

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you're really trying to make sure that the

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goals and the connection are achievable

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and they're realistic.

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And then you're using some SMART goals to

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help come up with some timely and

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achievable needed type of goals that

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they're excited about and they can feel

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their accomplishments.

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They understand you're helping to minimize

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the barriers.

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You're really trying to help them just get

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back to whatever it is they want to

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do in life.

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So if you don't build that,

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there's just that challenge ahead of you

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is that expert advice doesn't really work

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in this day and age.

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Especially now with artificial

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intelligence,

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if you're selling just expertise and an

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answer to a question,

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I would be nervous if that's the thing

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that you offer.

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If that's the service you provide,

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I'd get nervous.

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And you show where it's more like Yoda

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and guidance and seeing that person,

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right?

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Oprah said people want to be seen, heard,

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and understood.

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Making sure that you shift from that

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expert model to more of a coaching or

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more of a, I'm in this with you.

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That's sustainable.

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Now, how about this though?

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For younger PTs or even burned out

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clinicians anywhere in their career,

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it doesn't matter.

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Um,

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they might feel like they're doing so

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much, right?

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You got out of school and all of

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a sudden this thing hits you.

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Now you've got to do this thing every

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day.

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They've been working towards.

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What is getting involved actually look

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like in a practical way,

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in a way where it's not one other

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thing?

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Because a lot of people are saying,

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what's the return on investment?

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That's everybody's favorite KPI right now.

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What's the ROI of me joining a thing

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or showing up and spending my time and

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paying attention, right?

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Because time and money and attention are

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all commodities.

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They're all things we have.

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They're finite.

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For the younger PTs, for anybody,

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what does getting involved actually look

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like in a practical way?

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And well,

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I'll stop right there and then I'll have

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a follow up.

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So what does it actually look like in

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a practical way to get involved?

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Well,

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I think the practical way that young, old,

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burned out, not burned out, we as PTs,

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we as PTAs, we as humans,

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The way to attack it is that we

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really just want to be a part of

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something bigger than ourselves.

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We want to be able to understand that

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there's other people out there and that

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they help to re-energize us.

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They help to re-excite us.

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They help to re-engage us to carry on

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so that we can remember what it was,

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why we went to PT school.

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And we can maybe share and have fun

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because, you know,

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when your endorphins are excited and

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you're having a great time,

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that burden of that thought of being

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burned out or being stressed,

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that's sort of minimized.

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And the research shows that,

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that if you have that life-work balance,

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that it helps to contribute to a more

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positive working relationship and job

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satisfaction.

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It's not all about just the paycheck.

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It's really...

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that you're able to connect with other

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people that have like-minded goals,

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like-minded activities.

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So something about that is like,

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that's why the Ohio Physical Therapy

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Association and our East Central, well,

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and our district levels throughout the

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country and APTA,

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that just really helps all of us in

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the therapy world to engage,

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feel like you're part of the entire health

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community,

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that we can really make a difference,

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that advocacy piece,

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that we really can jump on board and

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change the world, so to speak.

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I think when we all went to PT,

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PTA school,

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we're going to change the world.

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And then sometimes you get into the real

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world and you're stuck with kind of that

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silo and you feel like you're not being

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appreciated.

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when you can get out and be a

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part of your association and activities

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and your peers and have fun,

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I think it's just really what helps you

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continue to be excited.

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I've been doing this for a long time

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and I'm still excited.

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Two, three years, two, three years.

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Plus about a whole bunch.

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Well, then let's talk about this,

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this physical embodiment of pretty much

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everybody,

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everything we've been talking about for

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the last, you know,

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know you know the the association in ohio

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decided that you were going to do a

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physical celebration for everything that

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sort of came before to sort of mark

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some time and then also ask the questions

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because you're going to have someone like

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drew contreras from apta who's a pretty

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forward-thinking guy looking to be on the

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horizon

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So you want to look at what's coming

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down the line for the profession.

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You're celebrating seventy-five years of

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an organization of people.

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It's not an association.

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It's not about a building.

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It's not about a logo.

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It's about all the people in the last

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seventy-five years now and coming.

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I bet you I could ask this question

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to anybody on the committees that are

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helping you in Ohio throw this and get

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different answers, which is good.

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But what are you trying to create beyond

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just a conference?

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To celebrate seventy five years.

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What is the thing beyond the thing for

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you?

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Well,

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the thing beyond the thing is that it

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is going to be like a wedding on

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steroids.

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It's going to be a night that you

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are going to remember.

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It's going to be fun.

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And guess what?

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you're going to be there.

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And so one and only Jimmy McKay is

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going to be there to kind of tie

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it all together and bring the excitement.

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We're going to even have a red carpet

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when you walk in.

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So yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'm going to be asking like a,

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like a reporter,

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what are we wearing tonight?

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And you know,

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what's on the horizon and all those

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things.

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Well, we're going to yuck it up.

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But what do you hope people walk away

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thinking and feeling beyond the fun,

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beyond a couple of vodka sodas and

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Chardonnays?

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What do we hope people are motivated to

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now go and do?

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What's a win for you three years from

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now from the event in Ohio next month?

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Okay,

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I'm at the golf outing with some physical

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therapy friends in a couple years and they

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go, you know,

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back in twenty twenty six on April

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eleventh in Columbus, man,

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you guys put on the best event.

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That gala for seventy five years was so

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exciting.

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We got to talk to a number of

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our friends and we got to talk to

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some students.

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They were all re-energized and energized

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to springboard the profession forward.

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We wore our fancy duds.

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We had our dancing shoes on.

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The food was tremendous.

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The venue was great.

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Met some new friends.

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Got to meet Jimmy McKay.

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So what more could they want?

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Well,

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I look at that kind of room and

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I say,

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let's fast forward to three years of your

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golf tournament.

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Maybe three years might be too soon,

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but six or seven years,

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quite likely a student in attendance is

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now APTA Ohio's president, right?

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Yeah.

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That's the thing to think of.

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And the funny thing is when you talk

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to people who are now leaders,

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some of them said,

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this is very intentional.

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I want to do this.

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I want to lead.

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And some people are so serendipitous and

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accidental.

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They were like,

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somebody gave me a free ticket to a

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party and I showed up.

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And then six years later,

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I'm the president because it was awesome.

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And I met so many great people.

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So I look at an event like...

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what you're doing next month in Ohio and

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say, it's sort of like a lottery ticket.

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You show up looking for future versions or

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opportunities of yourself.

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If you look for it as a direct

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ROI, what am I going to get?

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I think you walk away with little to

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nothing.

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I think if you walk into it like,

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what can I learn?

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What could I give back?

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You wind up... It sounds so corny,

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but you wind up walking away with a

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lot more.

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For sure.

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I think that the work that the committee's

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been putting into it,

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it's really exciting because we all still

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need to appreciate the history of the

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seventy five years that have come before

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us.

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So there's been a lot of effort to

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dig up some of the old pictures and

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some of the history and timeline.

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So hopefully the newbies, the young grads,

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early professionals can stand there and

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go, wow,

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I wonder what this will look like in

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seventy five years.

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And how do I shape that?

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And that's up to us because, wow,

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I'll still be around hopefully.

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They will, I won't,

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but they will be hopefully around in

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seventy five years.

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I wouldn't mind,

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but I'd be pretty old by then.

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But I've been around Ohio and then Florida

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before that.

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And I can see some of the leaders

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from forty three years ago when I joined

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the Physical Therapy Association,

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some of those leaders

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have really shaped the future.

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They had me present my research at APTA

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early on that first year out of school.

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And it just built the excitement.

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I talked to Florence Kendall.

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She critiqued my research.

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And so hopefully somebody will have that

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same aha moment and go, oh my gosh,

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that was Jimmy McKay.

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I talked to him or, oh,

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I got to meet Tyson Gentry or talk

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to Dr. Drew Contreras.

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And he's forward thinking.

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And now it's been,

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six years since the event.

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And look at what some of those things

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have gotten to do.

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I got to do a residency and I

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got to meet so-and-so.

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And so I can really see that this

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profession is exciting and that OPTA is

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like the

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I think we want to say we're like

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the heart of the profession.

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You know,

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we're trying to think where we're at as

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an association.

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And I think APTA, OPTA,

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your different state associations,

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and then your special interest groups and

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your other SIGs and district groups,

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we're the heart of the profession because

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If your heart isn't pumping and thriving

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and working hard and doing everything it

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can,

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then the rest of your musculoskeletal

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system and neurological system and

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everything else can't work optimally.

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So I think your association is the heart

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of it all.

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Do you have that analogy?

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You just pulled that out like you're ready

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to go.

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The heart analogy.

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That was perfect.

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Tied it up with a bow.

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Sounds good.

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I just pulled it out of my heart,

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Jimmy.

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Pulled it out of your heart.

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Edie, we have a tradition on the show.

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It is called the parting shot.

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This is the parting shot.

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One last mic drop moment.

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No pressure.

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Just your legacy on the line.

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So Edie, you're parting shot.

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I'll give you a question to play off

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of.

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If you could challenge every physical

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therapist assistant and every physical

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therapist listening to do one thing to

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build a better career,

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not just a better clinician,

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but a better career, what would it be?

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What would you challenge them to be?

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Well,

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I think it comes back to a larger

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voice is a stronger voice.

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And if one hundred percent of physical

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therapists and physical therapist

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assistants in the country or members of

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the associations, we would have.

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huge voice from an advocacy perspective,

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as well as we would have a really

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great time if all of them would show

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up at our gala on April eleventh in

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Columbus, Ohio,

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to celebrate our seventy fifth year.

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And so I think that the hundred percent

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membership and so that they hopefully

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don't look at it as a an add

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on,

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but just part of the heart and soul

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of your professional fun and your

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professional responsibilities.

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Great.

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Excellent.

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All right.

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I'm going to put some information about

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the conference and the gala,

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which are going back to back in just

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under a month.

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So we'll see you there, Ohio.

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But also,

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I wanted to make sure people from

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neighboring states in Pittsburgh is not

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that far.

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I mean, it doesn't have you.

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You can come to the party.

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You can come to the event and not

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necessarily be an APTA Ohio member or a

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member of that state chapter.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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It's great.

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We have friends from all over the country

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and we welcome new friends to come and

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check us out and just be a part

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of our fun evening and become our future

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friends.

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Excellent.

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Edie,

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appreciate the time and thanks for doing

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what you do.

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And I'll see you in a couple of

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weeks.

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Can't wait.

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Looking forward to it.

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Thank you very much.

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That's it for this one,

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It's for entertainment purposes only.

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Bullshit!

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See, Keith?

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We read the script.

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Happy now?