The 10,000 Step Lie

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Come on, there we go.

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The best conversations happen at happy

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hour.

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Welcome to ours.

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Welcome aboard.

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This is the PT podcast.

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Here's your host, physical therapist,

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Jimmy McKay.

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Thanks, voice person.

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I appreciate that.

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Yeah,

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we're live at APT's CSM for two days.

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If it sounds like my voice is slowly

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degrading,

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it's because my voice is slowly degrading.

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Melissa's here.

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How's your conference?

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Is the nicety we say to each other

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while we're in the middle of chaos and

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noise?

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But how's it going?

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It's going great.

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I work at U.S.

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Physical Therapy,

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so we are here meeting tons of students

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who we provide clinical rotations to.

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What's your superhero backstory?

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How did you get to here in the

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profession?

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What's your superhero origin story in the

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profession?

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I'm a sports and orthopedic PT.

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I'm a Rock Tape alumni.

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I spent almost ten years with that brand.

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Good.

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University faculty,

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and so I run education at USPH.

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Do you think that's what you were going

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to be doing when you started?

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No.

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Isn't that fun though?

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It is.

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I thought I was going to own an

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orthopedic clinic and, you know,

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grind and which I did,

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but then I turned into a faculty and

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then I turned into an education

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professional.

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It's not one lane.

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It is not one lane.

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It's a lot of paths.

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Yeah.

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All right, so before we started, I said,

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hey, what are we talking about?

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You said the word spicy, like spicy takes,

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and I like spicy takes.

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So what's a spicy take or two that

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you've got,

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things that shouldn't be and they should

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be this way?

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Yeah, so I'm launching a book in May,

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and one of the primary things we're

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talking about is footwear and what shoes

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we should be wearing and what shoes we

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perhaps should be avoiding and how our

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foot health completely impacts our overall

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health.

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I feel like if you're going to own

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a term, foot health would be pretty good.

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Yeah.

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So how do you look at it?

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How should people be looking at it from

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your point of view?

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So one in three adults in America has

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foot pain.

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Over sixty percent of adults are wearing

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the wrong sized shoe.

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Wrong size.

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Wrong size.

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Is that our fault?

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Because you know what?

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I was in a store the other day

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and I'm looking for the little shoe sizey

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thing and it wasn't there.

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It wasn't even there anymore.

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You know what those things are called?

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No.

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That's a Brannock device.

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It's its hundredth anniversary.

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It has not been changed since it was

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innovated.

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It's American made.

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And I remember kids,

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somebody at the shoe store used to do

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it for you,

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whether they knew how to do it right

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or not.

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And then I remember as I aged,

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they were just, oh, yeah,

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it's over there in the corner.

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And now it's not even really there

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anymore.

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Why are we wearing the wrong shoe size?

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I mean,

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I just named like nine possible points of

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failure in the proper size,

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but why aren't we?

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And what does that do?

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Yeah.

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So if you're not wearing the right size

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of shoe, generally speaking,

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it's creating orthopedic problems and

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biomechanical propulsion problems.

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So if you've got corns, calluses, bunions,

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heel pain, Achilles pain, I could go on.

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A lot of times it's related to wearing

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the wrong size, length of shoe.

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Beyond size,

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I'm going to take a wild guess and

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say type probably is also a thing.

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Yes.

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How are we doing it?

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Back in the day before PT,

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I would choose my shoes very

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scientifically, color, texture,

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if it was in my brand,

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if I had running shirts or shorts that

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matched that.

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Probably not the best way to do it.

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What is a simple approach?

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You've got a book coming out.

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We'll have to get deeper into that.

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But the fifteen second rapid fire view,

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why are we doing it wrong and how

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do we do it better?

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The reason we're doing it wrong is the

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marketing budgets of shoes that are not

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shaped like feet are much greater than the

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marketing budgets of shoes that are shaped

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like feet.

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So there's your spicy hot take number one.

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Yeah, buy based on the foot,

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not the fashion.

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Yeah,

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so my non-negotiable foot-shaped shoe.

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Meaning what?

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Meaning it should not be tapered.

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Yeah.

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That's a big place to start.

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I forget who it was,

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but had some great photos on Instagram of

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like the toe box cut out.

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Oh, there's a van.

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There it is.

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But yeah,

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there's that's a great X-ray picture right

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there.

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Right.

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Is from ultra running.

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You're looking at one on the left.

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Sorry.

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Yeah.

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My my left.

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You're left there saying that looks like

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it's a little.

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Like my shoe,

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my feet are kind of cramped in there

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versus the one on the right,

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which there's a little more space for

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those little toesies in there to spread

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out.

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Yep, space for toes.

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So space for toes allows us to splay

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the toes, which improves our biomechanics.

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It reduces pressure on things like the

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nerves that run in between those

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metatarsals.

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allows your muscles in between the bones

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to have better function.

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They can hypertrophy over time,

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get bigger.

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Your interossei is a big player there.

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And babies aren't born with bunions.

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And so another unpopular opinion,

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hot take that I'll be sharing with

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everyone today,

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where do you think bunions come from?

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Shoes?

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Yeah.

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One of the contributors.

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Yeah.

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I mean...

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We look at, somebody had taught this,

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mentioned this in PT school,

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but we look at like foot binding

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practices.

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Like those are ridiculous.

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I can't believe people did that while

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we're sitting there in shoes that are

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maybe not as extreme as binding,

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but kind of doing the same thing over

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time and over a longer period of time.

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And we voluntarily do that.

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I wore tuxedo shoes yesterday because I

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thought it'd be funny to wear a tuxedo.

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And those shoes,

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Did not do a whole lot for my

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feet and my calves and my back,

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and I'm feeling that today.

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Yes, the dogs are barking.

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The dogs are barking.

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I will say these are sneaker bottoms,

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so they do look like dress shoes from

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the top,

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but on the bottom and on the inside,

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they are pretty small.

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Nice.

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We could maybe do a shoe reveal while

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we're chatting today.

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What is a shoe reveal?

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If you're so inclined.

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Well,

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I would have you pop that shoe off

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and we could decide if it's shaped like

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a foot.

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Let's do it.

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So what am I looking at?

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Where do you begin your foot?

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The journey?

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Well,

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let's take the shoe off to start with.

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Got it.

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There it is.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Yep.

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And so when we look at this...

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That's a tapered toe box.

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Whether or not it has the heart of

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a running shoe,

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as these are typically billed to be.

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Right.

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If we look at that toe box,

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that is a narrow toe box.

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That's based out of fashion.

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Right.

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It's very fashionable.

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What is normal.

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Right.

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Hang on to that thing.

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Go ahead.

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So I'm going to take my shoe off.

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See how my single leg balances.

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Thanks, Jimmy.

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All right.

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So this shoe is shaped like a foot.

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Right.

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So see how my toe box is a

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little bit wider.

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Yours is more tapered.

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And those Mickey Mouse for a second there

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on the bottom.

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Keep going.

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Yeah, this is a Vivo barefoot shoe.

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It's one of their sneakers.

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So when we look at it from the

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top as well,

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you can see that that would allow my

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toes to splay.

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It's not drastic, though.

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It's not like someone's going to look at

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you and be like, oh,

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those are clown shoes.

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Like, I wouldn't have noticed.

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Even when you said that,

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I didn't notice that yours were that much

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wider.

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Yeah.

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So the innovations have gotten a lot

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better as wide toe box shoes have gotten

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more common.

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They don't have to look as extreme.

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Yes, exactly.

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Yeah.

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Because, I mean,

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getting people to completely abandon...

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their footwear, probably not gonna happen,

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but asking them or giving them better

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options to choose between is probably a

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better option.

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Yeah,

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and there's a concept we talk about which

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is called the twenty-four hour shoe clock.

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So you have twenty-four hours in a day,

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and we think of that as a pie

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chart.

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So you're spending some time barefoot,

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you're spending some time sleeping,

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perhaps you're spending some time in a

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dress shoe.

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Maybe you work in a profession where

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you're a flight attendant,

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or you're in the military and you have

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to wear a narrow uniform shoe.

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And so you can counteract that, right?

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So all is not lost.

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Those of you who are in fashion shoes,

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choosing fashion shoes,

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going to a wedding,

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going to a hot date, you know,

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I'm probably not going to be...

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It's not all or nothing.

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It's not all or nothing.

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It's not a light switch.

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It's a volume dial.

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Okay.

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So talk more about the book.

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First of all,

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I pat myself on the back when I

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read a book.

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I'm like, I don't want to brag.

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You wrote a book?

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I wrote a book.

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Yeah.

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Walk us through it.

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Walk us through it.

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Walk us through it.

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So Jimmy, the book is called Walk.

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I have an advanced copy of it right

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here.

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Nice.

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She's a pretty gal.

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I wrote it with Dr. Courtney Conley,

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who's a chiropractor,

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foot and gait expert.

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Her brand is called Gait Happens.

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Gait Happens.

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She's also a Rock Tape alumni.

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So shout out to all those Rock Tape

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alumni who hopefully will

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Catch up with this.

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Shantae, Mike Stella, Joe LaVaca,

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Megan Helwig, all of our homies.

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Mike Stella was rocked.

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I didn't know that.

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Follow him like crazy.

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Steve Capo, Alison Evans, like the core.

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I love those people.

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They're my family.

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So start with this.

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Why?

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Writing a book, I've never done it,

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but again, can't be easy.

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You're gonna put blood, sweat,

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and tears into it.

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What was the big, this,

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we're gonna plant our flag here,

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and then what does someone become when

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they're done reading?

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Yeah,

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so we planted our flag at Mike Stella's

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wedding.

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Nice.

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Courtney came up to me and said, hey,

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I need your help with a project this

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year.

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I said, great,

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what do you need from me?

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Because I, at the time,

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was doing consulting work for her brand.

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And I was assuming what she needed for

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me was to help operationalize it, sell it,

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biz dev, that sort of thing.

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And she was like,

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I'm going to write a book about feet.

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And I said,

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ten people are going to read that.

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How about if we write a book about

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walking?

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So there was my helpful point number one.

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That is good.

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And so it was really a passion project

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of her wanting to get her messaging out,

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talk about foot health,

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how that impacts total health,

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teach people about self-assessment,

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footwear, pain, selecting time,

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how many steps should you take per day,

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and then it really just became this

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immersive experience.

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Yeah.

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Simple, not easy.

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Correct.

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Right.

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I feel like if you had written this

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ten years ago,

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okay but right now there is such a

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great light shine on wellness taking care

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of myself i need to be an active

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participant or you know the most active

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participant in my in my care so i've

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said pts or people in health hey this

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is our moment like they're paying

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attention yes as we know with moments they

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come and go they do while we've got

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this can we how many behaviors can we

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change again ten years ago even if it

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was the same book great i feel like

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this is a this is a great

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It's a moment.

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Yeah, it's a moment.

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We're in our taking care of ourselves era.

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We are.

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And we're talking about longevity.

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We're talking with experts like Dr.

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Vonda Wright,

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who is so big into muscle tone and

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bone health for women.

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We're talking about zone two loading.

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We're talking about power training.

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And all of those can be achieved.

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with walking as a platform.

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And so for us,

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it really just became this collision of

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the timing of the passion project and then

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us taking a very operational mindset and

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saying, all right, well,

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how do we commercialize this sucker?

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What do you do to get a book

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published?

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There's self-published,

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there's big traditional publishing.

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You have to get an agent,

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just like a real estate agent,

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and then that agent goes and shops you

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out.

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Wow.

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Who is it for?

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Who do you hope is holding this?

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And then what does that person hopefully

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become or feel empowered to do or be

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able to do when they're done?

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Yes.

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The book is for people who walk.

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A lot of people.

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We did, you know,

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really try to as clinicians.

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Right.

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I'm a physio.

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She's a chiropractor.

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We were really trying to struggle.

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We struggled with, you know,

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individuals who don't walk.

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So if someone's a wheelchair user or those

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sorts of things.

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And unfortunately,

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this book can only be so long.

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Right.

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So there are all sorts of wonderful,

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continuous mobility that individuals who

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don't walk are able to engage in.

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Unfortunately,

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we weren't really able to address that in

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this project.

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But so this is anybody who you could

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have a prosthetic.

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You could be walking with an assistive

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device.

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You could be returning from an injury.

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You could have an amputation,

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whatever the ideal.

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Reader is someone who is interested in

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today's wellness and tomorrow's longevity

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and wants a incredibly low cost,

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immediately accessible thing they can play

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with.

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And the great part of the book is

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it really just has like it has all

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these little snacks in it.

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the five-minute micro walk,

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how to swap an activity and do a

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walk,

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maybe how to do a walk and talk

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meeting, strategies you can use,

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all sorts of assessments.

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How's your big toe mobility?

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How's your ankle mobility?

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How's your foot awareness?

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It feels like a salad bar.

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To me,

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it feels like there's a little something

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for everyone.

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And you can pick and choose the elements

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that really need to be improved for you

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to become someone who has walking as a

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part of your day.

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Yeah.

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Where are you with the ten thousand steps?

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I think I saw something online that you

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had said where, hey, what?

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So what is your what is your spicy

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take?

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Agree.

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Disagree.

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Somewhere in the middle.

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Ten thousand steps is a marketing hangover

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from the nineteen sixties.

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It was never science backed.

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And so it is a myth we're trying

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to bust with our platform.

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Because what?

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We don't need that much.

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That's correct.

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Right.

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So, hey, don't feel shamed if you're not.

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Because, you know,

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two thousand is better than one thousand

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and six thousand is better.

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Yeah,

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so there's a rate of diminishing returns.

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The top end is around eighty-five hundred

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if you're under sixty years old.

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There's some really big randomized

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controlled systematic reviews with

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hundreds of thousands of patients in them.

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So eighty-five hundred if you're under

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sixty,

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seventy-five hundred if you're over sixty.

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If you're someone who's looking for

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benefits related to depression symptoms,

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fifty-five hundred.

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Lifetime risk of developing depression,

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seventy-five hundred.

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And there's really great data on dementia,

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where if you're at thirty nine,

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thirty eight hundred,

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you reduce your risk of dementia by about

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twenty percent.

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If you hit ninety eight hundred,

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which is high and close to ten K,

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that has almost a fifty percent reduction

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in lifetime dementia risk.

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There's also some really great data on

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cancer.

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There's great data on sleep and a ton

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related to mental and cognitive clarity

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and cognitive performance.

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Love it.

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All right.

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So the date on the book and where

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they can get it.

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Yes.

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We close the loop.

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Yes, absolutely.

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Let's close the loop.

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So this is available for pre-sale right

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now on Amazon and anywhere else you buy

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your books.

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Target, Walmart, Barnes & Noble,

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Book Civilian.

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It publishes on Cinco de Mayo this year,

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five, five, twenty, twenty six.

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Read the book,

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then have the margaritas because I don't

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know how much walking you want to do

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after.

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Yes, that could be unsafe.

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Might be a little bit.

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Big advocates of sober walking.

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Sober, sober walking.

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All right.

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Last thing we do on the show is

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call the party.

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This is The Parting Shot.

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One last mic drop moment.

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No pressure.

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Just your legacy on the line.

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Parting shot is your chance to like burn

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something into someone's brain.

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What's the last thing you'd want to leave

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with the audience?

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Because we know the last thing we're

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usually taught is the thing that sort of

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sticks.

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So what's the last thing?

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Everybody knows ten thousand steps is a

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myth.

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So I'm not going to spend my parting

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shot on that.

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I just kind of snuck it in there.

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Pick the right shoes.

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That's all I'm asking you for.

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If you have a foot shaped shoe,

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if you're recommending a foot shaped shoe

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to your patients,

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if you're staying away from a tapered toe

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box,

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you improve that foot health,

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the ability for the muscles to do their

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job, and your propulsion dramatically.

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So my advice to everyone listening,

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please stay away from the tapered toe box,

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no matter how pretty you think they are.

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They are not good for your overall health.

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Well, when you say get a foot-shaped shoe,

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it sounds so obvious when you say it.

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Of course we would.

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I appreciate the time.

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Thanks so much, Melissa.