Aug. 21, 2026

Make 100 Mediocre Things!

Make 100 Mediocre Things!

Your clinic is already full of content. You just may not be noticing it.

In this episode of PT Breakfast Club, Tony Maritato and Jimmy McKay dig into what is actually working in physical therapy content right now.

Jimmy shares what he is learning from LinkedIn, including why heat maps, rankings, dogs, sneakers, and “PT but make it…” posts perform well. The reason is not magic. People engage when they can identify with something, argue with it, correct it, or add themselves to the story.

Tony shares what is working on Facebook, including AI-generated knee replacement images, real patient photos, simple text prompts, and posts that invite patients to talk about their own experience. Some of the highest-performing posts are not polished videos. They are simple, direct, and built for conversation.

That leads to a bigger point: media should be social. Clinics do not need to produce perfect videos. They need to tell real stories, ask better questions, and get more reps.

The conversation then turns to hiring. Jimmy explains why most PT job posts sound exactly the same: competitive salary, fast-paced environment, great culture, mentorship, and all the beige phrases that say almost nothing. If every job post sounds the same, the clinic pays a sameness tax.

Tony pushes the conversation into access and rationing care. If patients cannot get into PT for weeks or months, referral sources may eventually stop referring. Same-day or next-day access may be a differentiator, but it also changes the business model, staffing model, and documentation burden.

The episode wraps with charting beer, call-in show energy, TikTok rage bait, viral injury stories, and the reminder that content creation works like physical therapy: one perfect rep does not change much. The reps do.

<p>This episode is part of the <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a>, where physical therapists and clinic owners learn how to get more patients, improve operations, and grow their clinic without relying only on referrals.</p>

<p>Looking for more episodes? Explore the full <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a> for real-world strategies on physical therapy marketing, patient acquisition, and clinic growth.</p>

Transcript
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Broadcasting way too early from three

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separate Wi-Fi connections.

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It's PT Breakfast Club with Tony Meritato,

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Dave Kittle, and Jimmy McKay.

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Welcome to your Thursday PT Breakfast

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Club.

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Yesterday, Tuesday, I wasn't here.

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Now Dave's not going to be here.

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But, you know,

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two out of three ain't bad.

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That's actually the same.

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That's right.

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My original idea for this was we would

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have two at a time because three is

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too many.

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But we consistently have done it for over

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two years.

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Two years, man.

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two years so that's more than a hundred

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plus episodes is it only two years because

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it actually might be a little longer no

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it might be longer yeah i just i

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knew two years was a conservative guess

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you know the funny part is we get

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a decent amount of people watching live

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but like obviously time zones and

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schedules and whatnot when i'm at

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conferences or places you'd be i'm you

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know constantly like wow because we forget

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like to us it's us just like shooting

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the breeze for a couple minutes or

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whatever

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sort of verbal processing.

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Clinicians, students,

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C-suite people are like, hey,

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listen to the show.

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I get something out of it.

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And I'm like, huh,

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not everything needs to be

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Um,

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it's not that we don't plan because we

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overproduced,

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not everything needs to be overproduced,

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overproduced.

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That's it.

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So we do plan and we sort of

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are very transparent about our process,

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which is I think what a lot of

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people do.

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We get a group chat,

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we fire funny pictures back and forth at

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each other.

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And then, uh, we see what pops up.

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What did you guys dig into on Tuesday?

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I didn't even get a chance to listen

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on Tuesday.

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yeah so we were well you inspired the

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conversation around hiring recruitment

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culture yeah um you know the conversation

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i asked dave i was like hey you

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you're in the hiring process right now i

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said i've had great pts and ptas in

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the past

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who they were amazing,

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but they were sick all the time.

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They were sick like once a month.

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And you book a full schedule for them.

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Everybody loves them.

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They do a great job,

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but you can't rely on them.

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On the flip side,

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Jeremy, who I work with now,

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I told him the other day, I'm like,

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you haven't been sick ever.

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I don't think you've ever called out sick

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in like fifteen years.

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I've maybe called out sick once or twice

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in that time.

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So we were just talking about like the

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soft skills,

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other things you look for when hiring.

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You've been kind of talking more going

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down that road of recruitment and hiring

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and attraction.

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Um,

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what are some of the things that are

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hot on your radar right now related to

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that?

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This wasn't planned, but maybe Tony,

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because you like data and you're good at

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like paying attention to sort of like data

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and what it says.

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And I think we all should be better

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at that.

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And I've been trying to get better at

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that.

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So take a look, seize at this.

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I decided in November that I was going

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to triple down on LinkedIn.

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And I've had some runs and just like

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you and I, and I hear,

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I feel like you saying it makes me

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feel better because I'll do a lot.

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And then I'll just sort of like,

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I don't want to even look at it

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for a few days.

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So I should be better at like when

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I'm hot, schedule in advance.

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But I get so excited when I make

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something.

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I'm like,

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I want to see how this does.

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I want to share it, whatever, whatever.

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But take a look at some of this

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LinkedIn data.

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I'll see if I can zoom.

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Does it help if I zoom in a

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little bit?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's my last seven days on LinkedIn.

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Two hundred and eighteen thousand

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impressions.

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Two hundred eighteen thousand impressions.

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And then you look at engagements and those

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are up ninety five percent.

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Seven days is hard, though.

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So let's go back.

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Let's go to a month.

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So in terms of impressions,

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almost half a million.

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Yeah.

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And you can see that spike right there.

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And here's the secret.

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I've been paying attention to what has

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spiked over the last three hundred sixty

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five days.

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LinkedIn will tell me that if you go

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to your data and say,

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show me my best producing content in the

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last three sixty five,

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it'll show it to you.

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And then what's Tony going to tell you

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to do?

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What am I going to tell you to

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do?

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Put that back into ChatGPT because you

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probably created it with ChatGPT in the

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first place.

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But now give it the context.

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Hey, remember that thing we made?

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And if you don't, I'll remind you,

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copy and paste.

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Look how it did.

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And the next step, let's figure out why.

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Why do you think?

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Best guess, right?

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Best guess with AI anyway.

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And you can see,

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so let's just look at the last like,

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fourteen days.

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Some of the best content.

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Man, if you look at the top two,

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I've been making some of these heat maps

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of salary to tuition.

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I'm just comparing two things and then

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mapping it out by state.

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And people...

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Freaking love this.

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And this is one of the content that's

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actually crossed platforms.

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This is done well on Facebook because of

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images.

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It's done well on LinkedIn because that's

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where people are for cool business.

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And it's done well on Instagram too.

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People love to do a couple things.

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Look at it.

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Agree with it.

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Disagree with it or tell me where I

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screwed up and my map is wrong or

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how I screwed up data,

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which I am fine.

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And Tony is fine with all of it.

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Agree with me.

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Disagree with me.

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Tell me where I've screwed up.

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People point out things that, yeah,

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I didn't I didn't take that into

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consideration.

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You're right.

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And then the other series is so that's

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heat maps and the other series that I've

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been doing that's played pretty well.

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were these images where I said,

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physical therapy, but make it drinks,

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physical therapy, but make it sneakers,

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physical therapy, but make it dogs.

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People have lost.

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I don't know why I didn't start with

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dogs.

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People have lost their minds for a couple

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of reasons.

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Number one,

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I couldn't do all the specialties in one

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image.

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It would just get crowded.

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I also left a few off on purpose

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because I wanted people to get pissed that

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I left off blah or blah or blah.

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But here's what I found in these two

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posts.

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There's something for the audience to

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self-identify with.

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Oh, there's one more post.

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I did the NFL draft board where I

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took two data points, cost of PT program,

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tuition,

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First time pass rate.

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So like an objective measure in cost and

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an objective pass rate.

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And I ranked them.

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So I'm looking for the best bargain bang

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for buck.

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And it's a lot of schools that maybe

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we don't talk about a lot.

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It's not a lot of the and I'm

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using air quotes here, kids,

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the best ranked PT schools.

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But the people who went to Angelo State

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have a PT degree for thirty grand and

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their first time pass rate is like one

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hundred percent.

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So there's something for people to bitch

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about.

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Either they saw their school and they

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agree with it or they didn't see their

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school and like, wait,

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my school was great.

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How come they're not on the list?

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So I think in content for me anyway,

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it's something people can identify with.

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Flip that to what Tony shares about.

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something super specific as knee

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replacements,

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but there's something for people to

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identify with because they all had one.

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They've all got their own experience.

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How long after this did you do this?

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Did it hurt when you did this?

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Did your doctor do this or not?

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There's a way for me to walk in

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that's about me.

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So I mean,

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if there's one lesson I've taken the last,

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you know,

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It really isn't about the creator.

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There is some content that is about the

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creator.

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The day in the life videos.

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That's not really my jam.

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As much as I like to talk about

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me and be part of the thing,

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that's not really my jam.

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It really is,

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can I find a button to push for

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the audience to get engaged?

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Yeah, I love it.

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I still have not gotten back on LinkedIn

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for probably half a year, maybe longer.

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I just did not get, well,

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my audience shifted from therapist to

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consumer.

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And I just,

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I have no need to be there.

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That's not the community.

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Do you go on LinkedIn just to look?

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No, I don't even go on it.

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This backs up my thing when people say,

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where should I start?

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Everywhere.

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And I go,

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fish where you like to fish,

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where you already are, man.

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Like if you don't like,

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I don't like I,

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my jam is not tick tock for some

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reason,

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but people like you're leaving a lot of

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attention on the table.

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And I'm like,

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Now,

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I'd rather double down on LinkedIn because

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I like reading some of that stuff.

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I actually like commenting on some of that

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stuff because I like finding the clear

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like rage bait and being like rage bait.

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Like, I don't know.

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I like fish where you like to already

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fish.

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If you don't like consuming the content,

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my opinion is, and this is not universal,

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but you're probably going to hate creating

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the content that will do well there.

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Yeah.

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It's a mirror.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's when I was more active on YouTube,

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I produced more YouTube content.

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Then when I saw the opportunity shift to

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Facebook,

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I produced more Facebook content.

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Even Instagram is another one.

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I really don't,

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I don't consume content on Instagram.

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I the content I share to Instagram is

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a byproduct of what I share to Facebook.

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Yeah.

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You know,

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and so there's no intentional effort on

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Instagram, but I don't spend time there.

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But it's a two for one.

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If you make it on Instagram and Facebook,

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they're very easy, obviously,

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because they're owned by the same company.

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I think the lesson for single

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solopreneurs, small businesses is.

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with a team but not a dedicated team,

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like dual role,

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like your tech or your admin might be

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creating content,

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or organizations with large teams,

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I wouldn't put someone on a platform if

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they didn't like it.

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And well, if it's your job,

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they have to get at least comfortable with

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it.

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You got to be able to bear with

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it.

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And just because the thing that drives me

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nuts is with APTA organizations or

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businesses, they sort of give the duty,

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the job of creating content and earning

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attention.

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It's so consistent that I can map it

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out when I'm in a room with people.

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It's the youngest person.

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It's the go-getter.

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And I'm like,

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that doesn't mean they like doing it or

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are good at it at all.

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But we don't understand the social medias.

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That's when you know someone doesn't know

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what they're talking about.

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They put an S on medias.

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I don't understand the social medias.

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They do that.

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They do the ticky-tocks.

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We don't do that.

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I'm like, that is a recipe for failure.

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So since you shared those numbers,

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let me pull this up.

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That's bananas, man.

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This is a sixty day and I chose

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sixty day on purpose.

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So this is my Facebook business page.

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This is the total therapy solutions,

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the physical therapy page.

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Forty six million views in sixty days.

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You can see July eleventh.

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kind of the distinct jump that is when

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i was on vacation that week i was

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on vacation so i was like i've got

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nothing else to do i'm just sitting in

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my chair but that's also when i discovered

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images photos ai images what you put um

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i forget how to take this off oh

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here

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What you were sharing,

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those were images created by AI.

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You did not hire a graphic designer to

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go out.

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My guess is you harvested the data in

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AI.

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Maybe you verified some of the data.

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You got it to generate the image.

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Correct.

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I was not doing any of that.

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And I think this is a very small

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window of opportunity for anyone listening

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and watching.

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Because literally, let me share my page.

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Like last night, you know,

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I get home and I'm like, ah,

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what am I going to do content wise

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for tomorrow?

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So pop this up on the screen.

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Can you share?

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Do you see it down there?

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Yeah.

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How come it's not going?

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I don't know.

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You said StreamYard was being kind of

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weird today.

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Oh, I know why.

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There we go.

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Okay.

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So, like, this is actually a photo.

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This was a photo shared.

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Wait, wait, wait.

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That's a photo on the top right?

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The big one?

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Yeah, the knee over the Grand Canyon.

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That's so funny because, like,

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now when you get dope pictures like that,

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everyone's going to assume it's AI,

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but that is a dope picture.

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Holy cow.

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So,

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but this is exactly what I would do.

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So I found that photo.

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It was in one of my Facebook groups.

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I would take this photo then,

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and I would use AI and I would

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say, Hey, put this photo on a kayak,

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put this photo on a, you know,

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what a cruise in Europe, in Italy, the,

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the Eiffel tower.

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Like I,

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I would make this multiple photos knowing

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that that's going to resonate.

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This is a real photo,

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the real patient in my clinic.

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But now this- You didn't light them on

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fire.

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That's not a real photo.

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This is a real photo.

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And I told AI, ChatGPT, last night,

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I published this ten hours ago.

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I said, hey, put flames on one side,

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put lightning on the other.

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And I made a post about zingers and

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numbness and heat around the knee.

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One sentence, do you feel zingers,

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numbness, or heat around your new knee?

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Um, a hundred thumbs up,

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seventy-three comments.

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Yup.

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If I take a quick look, uh,

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it got fifty-five,

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fifty-six thousand views since last night.

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You know,

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and that image will probably go on to

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do a couple hundred thousand views.

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I would love for you to hear,

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go back to the Zinger one.

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Yeah.

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I would love for you to wait a

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month or whatever, a cooling off period,

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share that again,

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and then do the move that I see

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other creators do,

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which is

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Give me a heart emoji if you feel

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heat.

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Give me a thumbs up emoji if you

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feel electric.

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And then you can sort of like,

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I don't know,

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it feels like they're weighing in.

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Because what I don't want to do is

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write something if I don't have to.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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This was another one I shared last night.

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One hundred and thirty three thousand

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views.

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Twenty dollars in earnings.

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And all it is, it's fully AI generated.

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I said,

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give me an image of a woman standing

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inside a x-ray machine or whatever at the

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airport.

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Show me an x-ray of the knee replacement.

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And then I said,

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have you traveled on a plane or by

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plane since your total knee replacement

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surgery?

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You know, that's a real photo,

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that's a real video.

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So it's a mixture of these AI images

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and then just some text, plain text posts.

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Yeah, they're doing well.

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Yeah,

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this one got one hundred and sixty six

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comments,

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but I've got multiple text posts that are

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doing thousands of comments in a day.

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over a thousand comments last one another

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ai image hundred and thirty five thousand

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views sixteen dollars in revenue um you

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know these things take seconds to create

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less time to share if there's a lesson

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in this because i'm sure people out there

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are like but i'm not a content creator

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i think there's a couple lessons you're

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either a good content creator or you're a

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bad one

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even if you're like, I'm not,

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and that means you're a bad one.

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You need to be creating something.

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Your organization needs to be creating

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something.

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The second thing is, it's not as hard,

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it is a skill,

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But it's something that repetition will

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get you.

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Are you using like the voice feature or

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are you typing what to do when you're

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like doing this?

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Are you using your thumbs or your voice?

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I use voice to text.

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So not the talking to and it talks

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back.

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I just use voice to text.

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I don't love that voice feature where we

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talk back and forth unless I'm driving.

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I don't mind that.

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And here's why.

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The AI's answer is often too long and

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flowery.

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I'm like, just get to the point.

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Like,

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I think I made a meeting to do

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a better prompt.

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The other thing is I feel like there's

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a bell curve.

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So the middle is like getting no

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attention.

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It's super, super, super high produced,

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like high effort.

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Like the press conference video you

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shared.

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I forget the guy's name.

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I want to give him credit.

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You know what I'm talking about?

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I don't know.

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The guy you're like,

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I love to see is the creator.

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He does like if PTs walked out of

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the clinic and did like a post-game press

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conference.

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Brilliant format because everybody

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instantly recognizes it.

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And then he goes,

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but it's not football or basketball or

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hockey or baseball.

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It's PT.

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And that's where people go, boom,

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I want to see what this says.

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Great, brilliant twist of format.

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And I would call that high effort.

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That part.

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Because it took him time to script it

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out.

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He had to set up the scene.

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It's not cinema movie effort,

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but it's more effort than what Tony and

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I are doing,

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which is sharing clips of a podcast

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episode or riffing with AI for forty five

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seconds,

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drilling down on an image and then popping

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it out.

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You know,

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I've never even looked at his channel

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name.

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It's Court and Clinic.

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The therapist is Taylor.

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I'm going to say Leiby, L-E-I-B-Y.

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I love his videos.

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I've commented on them before.

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I told him he's one of my favorite

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creators.

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He's got the best spin on humor in

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the physical therapy clinic.

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I would say his content is more for

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clinicians than it is for consumers,

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but hilarious.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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He's put it.

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So I would say we should do a

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list.

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We should do a top ten,

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top twenty of PT creators videos.

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pointed at the at the profession because

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that's a niche within a niche within a

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niche matt huey matt the pt yeah is

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big uh k uh master cola is great

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dpts with anxiety she's big at memes but

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when she turns the camera on herself it's

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very good as well

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I'm sure I'm leaving people out because

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I'm not prepared for this.

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There's a bunch.

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We should get together a list.

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We should do a user-generated list.

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Suggest who should do it.

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That would be good.

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So I just shared his Instagram page.

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But like, you know, Matt,

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I see Matt doing collabs now.

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Taylor did a collab with Spry.

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I see all of these little business things

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that are popping up for these guys and

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girls.

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Very cool stuff.

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I've been...

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I went to the APTA Colorado student thing

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and one of the students was like, hey,

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like sort of sheepishly.

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And this is where you just assume because

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someone's young,

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they're hip to the social medias.

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And that's not necessarily true, right?

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Because...

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I'm going to try to guess this girl's

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age.

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She seemed to be the age where social

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media has been a thing her entire life.

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That's my guess.

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Twenties.

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And she was like, where do I start?

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And I'm thinking I was sort of thinking

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in the old cranky way.

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We're like, you're twenty five.

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Don't you know exactly how to start?

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She didn't.

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And I was like, oh,

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this is a great question.

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And I gave her sort of like maybe

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the two basic I think she was she

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was thinking that Jimmy McKay was going to

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give her some really philosophical

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whatever.

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And I was like,

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what do you like looking at?

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And she was like, what do you mean?

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I'm like,

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where when you're bored and you got twenty

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minutes, what do you flip there?

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And she's like, well, Instagram.

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And I'm like, then start there.

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But don't I need to also be I'm

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like, whoa, you don't have to do anything.

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You don't have to do any of this,

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right?

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But if you wanted to stand out.

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Now she, if I'm remembering correctly,

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physical therapist,

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had a niche in practice.

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I can't remember what it was,

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but she was bilingual.

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And I'm like, that would be a great...

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hook right do either either and i was

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then we were like playing with ideas and

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i'm curious to see what tony would say

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if you're bilingual and you were going to

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make a post would you create an english

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version and a spanish version on the same

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channel or would you have two channels

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that were essentially mirror images but

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just translated

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Yeah, that's tough.

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Like a meta has AI translation to

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different languages.

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And some of those videos do really well

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for me in other languages.

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Historically, you know,

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I've heard good advice on both sides.

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Like one one will say the algorithm will

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distribute the Spanish version to the

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Spanish community.

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Other people will say no,

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make a dedicated channel for that

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community.

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I don't know that there's an answer.

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Uh,

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the cool part about that for me was

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not her getting a million views or

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whatever, whatever she started.

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I said, in the next three days,

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here's what,

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here's what success looks like for me.

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You telling you,

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you showing me your first video.

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And I gave her like one, I literally,

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the only piece of advice I said,

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I would buy, I'm like,

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buy a good microphone.

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Your camera has a good enough.

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Your phone has a good enough camera.

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You don't need anything else.

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You're fine.

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And it's consistency.

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How fast can you get to ten or

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a hundred videos?

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Shoot me a hundred C minuses.

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I'll show you someone who knows how to

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put out a B plus in a hundred

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videos or less.

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Yeah.

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Just showing real quick.

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This is arranged by comments.

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The last twenty eight days.

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So I literally went in the parking lot,

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took a picture of the pavement where there

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is the disability placard.

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Right.

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Um, one thousand three hundred comments,

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you know, and then an AI video,

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an AI image is still photo of an

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osteoarthritic knee next to a replacement

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knee with the prosthesis.

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Again, thirteen hundred comments.

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A text only did describe your total knee

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replacement in one word.

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Twelve hundred comments.

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Yeah,

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one word is a great prompt because it's

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it's a low bar to hit.

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So there's four posts with over a thousand

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comments.

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I mean, it's just crazy.

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If you think about it, it is crazy.

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But I think sometimes we overcomplicate

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things.

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I think most of the time we over

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rather than undercomplicate them.

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Whenever I start talking to people, I say,

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I need you to switch the order of

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words.

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I want you to create media that's social.

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And that's not me trying to be cute.

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When people are like,

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we need to make more social media,

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they're talking about volume and quantity,

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where I want you to think about quality,

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but it doesn't need to take a lot

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of time.

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You don't need to break out film quality

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cameras and scripts and teleprompters to

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get quality.

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Quality is decided by the audience.

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Look at what is playing well.

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I think you and I and Dave do

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this a lot, which is what's this?

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Oh,

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you shared the two videos we can talk

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about.

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from the auto detailers.

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Yeah.

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And one of them was higher quality.

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But I don't know if the production was

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the reason it was a better video.

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Do you want to describe these two?

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And why did you share them?

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We haven't talked about this.

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yeah there's really three so this this was

00:23:15.125 --> 00:23:19.105
on instagram um i've got you know a

00:23:19.205 --> 00:23:21.666
two thousand i don't know five i think

00:23:21.707 --> 00:23:24.647
car and i was like hey i want

00:23:24.688 --> 00:23:26.768
to get it cleaned up like my boys

00:23:26.788 --> 00:23:28.608
are trash in my car there's cleats and

00:23:28.648 --> 00:23:31.250
mud and all the the stuff there i

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start getting ads for car detailing they

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come out to your house they're all the

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same they're like two hundred dollars ish

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one was a young kind of awkward teenage

00:23:43.285 --> 00:23:45.986
guy standing in front of the camera do

00:23:46.006 --> 00:23:48.626
you remember the star wars like lightsaber

00:23:48.666 --> 00:23:51.228
guy yeah one of the first viral videos

00:23:51.268 --> 00:23:53.669
yeah it seemed like him yeah that's right

00:23:53.788 --> 00:23:56.029
this kid reminded me of him yeah he

00:23:56.049 --> 00:23:58.931
was like hey cincinnati you know i'm doing

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this and uh this is what it is

00:24:01.071 --> 00:24:02.892
and this is the deal it's usually and

00:24:02.912 --> 00:24:05.053
we're doing for and it was cute

00:24:05.532 --> 00:24:06.534
i don't know that i would look at

00:24:06.554 --> 00:24:08.535
that kid and be like yeah he's going

00:24:08.555 --> 00:24:10.455
to do a good job right then there

00:24:10.476 --> 00:24:13.037
was one without a person on camera but

00:24:13.257 --> 00:24:15.778
basically a voiceover showing like steam

00:24:15.818 --> 00:24:18.180
cleaning and vacuuming and that was the

00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.441
one that i kind of liked um and

00:24:20.461 --> 00:24:22.142
then there was a third version that was

00:24:22.241 --> 00:24:25.364
more kind of synthetic and ai and i

00:24:25.403 --> 00:24:26.964
didn't like that one but i just thought

00:24:27.005 --> 00:24:27.285
you know

00:24:28.544 --> 00:24:31.184
How do these three interplay with me,

00:24:31.224 --> 00:24:32.086
the consumer,

00:24:32.506 --> 00:24:34.126
basically the same price point,

00:24:34.166 --> 00:24:35.788
basically the same promise,

00:24:36.367 --> 00:24:38.328
same geographic area, same everything.

00:24:39.048 --> 00:24:41.671
And then how do we apply that to

00:24:41.810 --> 00:24:44.652
our physical therapy, mobile practices,

00:24:44.711 --> 00:24:45.673
brick and mortar practice?

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I think this goes back to one of

00:24:47.548 --> 00:24:48.608
the first things we were talking about

00:24:48.669 --> 00:24:49.950
today, which is in hiring.

00:24:50.109 --> 00:24:51.550
I think it's transparency.

00:24:51.570 --> 00:24:52.530
I'll give you an example.

00:24:53.511 --> 00:24:55.613
I'm in my town's Facebook group, right?

00:24:55.692 --> 00:24:57.834
And people advertise like yard sales and

00:24:57.854 --> 00:24:58.173
yada yada.

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There's these two kids who are in college

00:25:02.175 --> 00:25:03.576
and it's Liam and something.

00:25:04.116 --> 00:25:05.457
And whenever they come home,

00:25:06.218 --> 00:25:07.678
it's literally like a photo of them.

00:25:07.738 --> 00:25:10.059
It reminded me like almost is a photo,

00:25:10.099 --> 00:25:11.480
but of the first video you're talking

00:25:11.500 --> 00:25:12.740
about, like low quality.

00:25:14.056 --> 00:25:16.198
but they tell a story.

00:25:16.298 --> 00:25:17.119
Hey, it's Liam and Steve.

00:25:17.140 --> 00:25:18.040
We're home from break.

00:25:18.320 --> 00:25:19.561
We'd love to help you with all the

00:25:19.582 --> 00:25:20.623
things you don't want to do.

00:25:21.144 --> 00:25:23.026
We do garage clean out, landscaping.

00:25:23.307 --> 00:25:24.528
We're just two kids trying to put our

00:25:24.548 --> 00:25:26.470
way through college.

00:25:26.549 --> 00:25:28.451
And I think what that does is if

00:25:28.471 --> 00:25:30.193
you've been college kids or you've been

00:25:30.253 --> 00:25:31.855
nineteen and you had no money,

00:25:32.796 --> 00:25:34.759
you instantly go, yeah,

00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:36.362
because this is what we need.

00:25:36.481 --> 00:25:37.463
We need kids who want to,

00:25:37.683 --> 00:25:39.186
these kids today don't want to work.

00:25:39.567 --> 00:25:39.907
Good.

00:25:39.968 --> 00:25:40.788
That's the trope.

00:25:40.828 --> 00:25:42.172
That's the cliche.

00:25:42.551 --> 00:25:43.634
They're the opposite.

00:25:44.280 --> 00:25:45.121
and they're doing that.

00:25:46.182 --> 00:25:46.882
So if you were like,

00:25:47.041 --> 00:25:48.863
look at this kid, he is awkward.

00:25:49.363 --> 00:25:51.242
Man, that kid, I wanna help him out.

00:25:52.544 --> 00:25:53.683
So it's not that any of these are

00:25:53.703 --> 00:25:54.404
gonna be better.

00:25:54.525 --> 00:25:56.285
I think, obviously, if you're gonna A, B,

00:25:56.305 --> 00:25:57.105
and C test these,

00:25:57.246 --> 00:25:58.365
some things are gonna pop.

00:25:58.865 --> 00:26:01.386
But for the person who wants two things,

00:26:01.606 --> 00:26:02.467
their car cleaned,

00:26:02.928 --> 00:26:04.468
and to help out the plucky kid who's

00:26:04.488 --> 00:26:06.269
a little awkward, that kid wins.

00:26:06.969 --> 00:26:08.132
But if it's, listen,

00:26:08.311 --> 00:26:08.972
I got a little dirt.

00:26:09.012 --> 00:26:10.336
I got to get off my shoulder here.

00:26:10.375 --> 00:26:11.357
I'm a little classier.

00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.382
I'm going to go with the flashier video

00:26:13.643 --> 00:26:15.867
because I align with that.

00:26:15.968 --> 00:26:17.150
I got one more example.

00:26:18.193 --> 00:26:20.576
This got me to go spend two hundred

00:26:20.596 --> 00:26:23.218
and fifty bucks on plants.

00:26:23.459 --> 00:26:23.878
Tony,

00:26:24.779 --> 00:26:26.661
I could count on one hand how many

00:26:26.721 --> 00:26:28.061
times in my life I bought plants.

00:26:28.363 --> 00:26:28.923
It's that number.

00:26:28.962 --> 00:26:29.363
It's one.

00:26:29.683 --> 00:26:31.786
OK, in the local Facebook group,

00:26:32.046 --> 00:26:32.905
somebody else,

00:26:33.307 --> 00:26:35.228
maybe they're related to this greenhouse.

00:26:35.749 --> 00:26:37.671
Maybe they're just pissed off that this

00:26:37.691 --> 00:26:38.010
happened.

00:26:38.351 --> 00:26:39.832
This woman tells a story how this

00:26:39.892 --> 00:26:41.153
family-owned greenhouse,

00:26:41.653 --> 00:26:43.094
you can tell the family's house is in

00:26:43.114 --> 00:26:44.595
the back on a busy road.

00:26:44.914 --> 00:26:45.675
And then in the front,

00:26:45.836 --> 00:26:47.237
right in front of this busy road is

00:26:47.277 --> 00:26:49.377
like three greenhouses and their store,

00:26:49.397 --> 00:26:49.959
their business.

00:26:50.598 --> 00:26:52.640
And they did almost like a news story

00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.162
with photos and text how someone went over

00:26:55.182 --> 00:26:55.902
there in the middle of the night,

00:26:56.022 --> 00:26:56.823
took a razor blade,

00:26:57.242 --> 00:26:58.784
slashed all their greenhouses.

00:26:59.265 --> 00:27:01.066
A bunch of plants died because of,

00:27:01.086 --> 00:27:02.426
I don't know, the heat, got cold,

00:27:02.467 --> 00:27:03.106
something, something.

00:27:03.326 --> 00:27:05.268
They slashed the family's pool,

00:27:05.288 --> 00:27:05.949
everything.

00:27:06.288 --> 00:27:08.250
And they did thousands of dollars in

00:27:08.290 --> 00:27:08.671
damage.

00:27:09.192 --> 00:27:11.413
And I said,

00:27:11.634 --> 00:27:13.134
I needed to get some plants because people

00:27:13.154 --> 00:27:15.957
have been telling me your house looks like

00:27:15.977 --> 00:27:16.538
a frat house.

00:27:16.577 --> 00:27:17.699
Like it's just a dude who lives there.

00:27:17.719 --> 00:27:18.019
Like, well,

00:27:18.038 --> 00:27:18.940
it is just a dude who lives there.

00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:20.280
Put some plants in your house, Jimmy.

00:27:20.641 --> 00:27:21.882
And this put me over the edge.

00:27:21.922 --> 00:27:23.383
I was like, they're down my street.

00:27:24.260 --> 00:27:24.981
That's screwed up.

00:27:25.061 --> 00:27:25.801
I want to help them.

00:27:26.623 --> 00:27:27.703
I don't want to just go throw money

00:27:27.723 --> 00:27:28.305
in a donation.

00:27:28.404 --> 00:27:29.665
I want to help their business.

00:27:30.146 --> 00:27:30.626
So I did.

00:27:30.666 --> 00:27:31.907
I went and dropped like two hundred twenty

00:27:31.928 --> 00:27:32.788
fifty bucks on plants.

00:27:33.028 --> 00:27:33.930
She was terribly nice.

00:27:33.970 --> 00:27:34.570
I literally just said,

00:27:34.971 --> 00:27:35.892
I need you to give me plants that

00:27:36.172 --> 00:27:38.114
even I can't kill and they got to

00:27:38.134 --> 00:27:38.795
be outside.

00:27:38.855 --> 00:27:39.134
And, you know,

00:27:39.154 --> 00:27:40.016
I'm going to plant them now.

00:27:40.056 --> 00:27:40.455
It's all good.

00:27:40.516 --> 00:27:41.356
And she was like, got it.

00:27:41.396 --> 00:27:41.958
You want this?

00:27:42.298 --> 00:27:43.019
And she was awesome.

00:27:43.955 --> 00:27:46.036
Then that story gets picked up by the

00:27:46.056 --> 00:27:47.497
local actual TV news.

00:27:47.656 --> 00:27:48.757
So now it gets even more.

00:27:48.777 --> 00:27:49.876
And I'm like, this is awesome.

00:27:50.257 --> 00:27:51.357
I go to the comment section.

00:27:51.577 --> 00:27:53.038
I see people going,

00:27:53.417 --> 00:27:54.357
you should buy a gun.

00:27:54.657 --> 00:27:55.659
You should buy a camera.

00:27:55.878 --> 00:27:56.818
You should buy a dog.

00:27:56.979 --> 00:27:57.778
And I just commented,

00:27:58.019 --> 00:27:59.259
you should all buy some plants.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.059
Those are all great things that she should

00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.480
have done six weeks ago.

00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:04.260
She didn't.

00:28:04.681 --> 00:28:05.480
Also, a camera.

00:28:06.576 --> 00:28:07.636
Would you show you some dude in a

00:28:07.676 --> 00:28:08.676
hoodie with a razor blade?

00:28:08.717 --> 00:28:09.417
Like that ain't going to help.

00:28:09.877 --> 00:28:11.598
Buy some plants is my story.

00:28:11.699 --> 00:28:13.980
So that's an example of real media that

00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:17.080
told a story that hopefully got them back

00:28:17.101 --> 00:28:18.501
to at least zero, right?

00:28:18.541 --> 00:28:19.942
Got them back to where they were before

00:28:20.262 --> 00:28:21.083
pre-razor blade.

00:28:21.523 --> 00:28:22.844
But telling good stories,

00:28:23.224 --> 00:28:24.664
people want to rally behind them.

00:28:24.704 --> 00:28:26.185
And the realer they are,

00:28:26.746 --> 00:28:28.807
I think the more they spread,

00:28:28.826 --> 00:28:29.867
the more people look at them and want,

00:28:30.008 --> 00:28:31.449
even in an era of AI.

00:28:32.169 --> 00:28:34.329
And our clinic is full of real stories.

00:28:34.589 --> 00:28:35.090
Full of them.

00:28:35.290 --> 00:28:35.651
Yes.

00:28:36.558 --> 00:28:37.779
One hundred percent full of them.

00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:40.121
And I think the barrier,

00:28:40.161 --> 00:28:41.421
there's a couple of barriers to telling

00:28:41.441 --> 00:28:43.842
them, I don't know how to do this.

00:28:43.902 --> 00:28:45.282
I feel awkward as the clinician or the

00:28:45.323 --> 00:28:45.923
clinic owner.

00:28:46.123 --> 00:28:47.423
I'd feel awkward asking.

00:28:48.865 --> 00:28:50.384
I wouldn't know exactly how to do it.

00:28:50.404 --> 00:28:51.125
It would be too whatever.

00:28:51.465 --> 00:28:54.007
But you've found that people are what's

00:28:54.027 --> 00:28:55.968
your batting average of if you ask ten

00:28:56.008 --> 00:28:57.428
people, how many of them say yes?

00:28:57.848 --> 00:28:59.809
How many of them say no?

00:28:59.849 --> 00:29:02.411
So what to share in the video like

00:29:02.451 --> 00:29:02.830
patients?

00:29:04.106 --> 00:29:04.728
I mean,

00:29:04.748 --> 00:29:06.949
I'd say in ten years of doing it

00:29:06.989 --> 00:29:09.090
seriously, probably three have said no.

00:29:09.111 --> 00:29:09.990
Wow.

00:29:10.030 --> 00:29:11.311
Three out of ten years.

00:29:11.332 --> 00:29:11.892
That's pretty good.

00:29:11.912 --> 00:29:13.733
Many thousands have said yes.

00:29:13.913 --> 00:29:14.233
Right.

00:29:14.814 --> 00:29:16.394
And then if, you know,

00:29:17.256 --> 00:29:19.237
I think the next is people feel like

00:29:19.257 --> 00:29:20.438
they need to aim for perfection,

00:29:20.738 --> 00:29:21.838
which is why the next question is,

00:29:21.858 --> 00:29:22.878
what do I have to buy?

00:29:23.180 --> 00:29:24.039
What do I have to get?

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:25.381
How long does it take?

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.702
And the answer should be barely anything.

00:29:29.083 --> 00:29:31.964
Get a twenty nine dollar microphone off of

00:29:32.065 --> 00:29:32.905
whatever for your phone.

00:29:33.486 --> 00:29:34.926
Your phone has a good enough camera for

00:29:34.946 --> 00:29:36.008
video and photo.

00:29:36.929 --> 00:29:39.330
And then look at ten videos of Tony's.

00:29:39.951 --> 00:29:42.353
And then I love when people steal my

00:29:42.373 --> 00:29:43.753
format, steal the strategy.

00:29:43.854 --> 00:29:47.155
Because there's more collaboration than

00:29:47.195 --> 00:29:48.356
there is competition, right?

00:29:48.376 --> 00:29:49.758
Like the person who makes the video in

00:29:49.798 --> 00:29:51.900
California is not competing for patients

00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:52.420
with Tony.

00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:53.260
What's the problem here?

00:29:53.560 --> 00:29:53.881
In fact,

00:29:53.921 --> 00:29:56.423
it probably helps the profession overall.

00:29:57.263 --> 00:29:58.464
Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:00.306 --> 00:30:02.228
Anything else on this topic before we move

00:30:02.307 --> 00:30:02.387
on?

00:30:03.590 --> 00:30:04.551
On this specifically?

00:30:05.873 --> 00:30:06.314
No,

00:30:06.433 --> 00:30:08.494
but we veered off of what you asked

00:30:08.515 --> 00:30:10.057
me in the beginning, which was hiring.

00:30:10.076 --> 00:30:11.377
Yeah, yeah.

00:30:11.417 --> 00:30:12.999
So I will share,

00:30:13.078 --> 00:30:14.460
I'll find some of the posts in a

00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:15.961
second, but I mean,

00:30:16.162 --> 00:30:18.943
my latest post has been getting some

00:30:19.003 --> 00:30:20.484
pretty good, my last series,

00:30:20.904 --> 00:30:22.105
I decided to do a series.

00:30:22.586 --> 00:30:23.366
I'm actually following,

00:30:23.667 --> 00:30:25.088
Larry Benz is teaching me about

00:30:25.128 --> 00:30:25.769
communications.

00:30:26.309 --> 00:30:27.451
Larry's very big in,

00:30:27.471 --> 00:30:28.731
I'm going to write an article for his

00:30:28.791 --> 00:30:29.332
sub stack,

00:30:30.472 --> 00:30:31.773
but it's going to be part one of

00:30:31.834 --> 00:30:32.634
a five-part series.

00:30:33.731 --> 00:30:36.053
Because I think if he wrote one article

00:30:36.073 --> 00:30:37.513
that was five times as long,

00:30:37.753 --> 00:30:39.795
it would be, it's too much.

00:30:40.035 --> 00:30:41.214
So he was smart enough,

00:30:41.234 --> 00:30:42.076
that's his strategy.

00:30:42.395 --> 00:30:43.395
So I started doing that.

00:30:43.415 --> 00:30:43.856
I was like, okay,

00:30:44.196 --> 00:30:45.416
five parts of the series,

00:30:45.778 --> 00:30:46.637
five days in a week,

00:30:47.097 --> 00:30:48.098
this is what I'm gonna do for the

00:30:48.118 --> 00:30:48.358
week.

00:30:49.019 --> 00:30:50.880
And they're doing not half bad.

00:30:53.061 --> 00:30:54.423
This one has been doing well because I

00:30:54.442 --> 00:30:55.864
think I've been working a lot on the

00:30:55.923 --> 00:30:56.263
hook.

00:30:56.403 --> 00:30:58.265
And the hook for this one is physical

00:30:58.285 --> 00:31:00.105
therapy hiring is basically two strangers

00:31:00.185 --> 00:31:01.606
lying politely to each other for forty

00:31:01.646 --> 00:31:03.827
five minutes and hoping the next two

00:31:03.847 --> 00:31:05.949
thousand hours work out.

00:31:06.028 --> 00:31:06.349
Yeah.

00:31:06.410 --> 00:31:08.750
And I've been very careful to not take

00:31:08.790 --> 00:31:12.232
a side because I want to play Switzerland

00:31:12.252 --> 00:31:14.294
because I actually think it's both

00:31:14.394 --> 00:31:15.954
nobody's fault and everybody's fault the

00:31:15.994 --> 00:31:16.734
exact same time.

00:31:17.336 --> 00:31:19.016
And that post walks through the dance that

00:31:19.036 --> 00:31:19.297
we do.

00:31:20.538 --> 00:31:22.359
I'm sort of taking the clinician side a

00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:24.082
little more on this particular post

00:31:24.102 --> 00:31:26.703
because I'm saying I did this with AI.

00:31:27.325 --> 00:31:28.645
Hey, you know, Claude,

00:31:28.685 --> 00:31:31.469
go find me one hundred random PT job

00:31:31.509 --> 00:31:32.049
descriptions.

00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:33.570
And it did that random.

00:31:33.691 --> 00:31:34.092
It went to it.

00:31:34.132 --> 00:31:34.852
But I watched it, too.

00:31:34.892 --> 00:31:35.553
I watched the thing.

00:31:35.573 --> 00:31:37.214
It was going to indeed and did it.

00:31:38.038 --> 00:31:39.238
now i want you to create a word

00:31:39.298 --> 00:31:41.578
cloud for all the words that get used

00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.159
over and over and over and over again

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:44.960
right and then i want you to create

00:31:44.980 --> 00:31:47.621
a separate list of outlier words that like

00:31:47.760 --> 00:31:50.240
never appear and of course the list of

00:31:50.481 --> 00:31:52.182
words that appear in every one competitive

00:31:52.201 --> 00:31:54.182
salary fast-paced environment all the

00:31:54.202 --> 00:31:56.942
cliches were apparent yeah and then i just

00:31:56.982 --> 00:31:58.683
said listen a couple things

00:31:59.772 --> 00:32:01.614
You're not telling any story.

00:32:01.634 --> 00:32:04.234
So when people say job boards don't work,

00:32:04.295 --> 00:32:04.976
I go, no,

00:32:05.135 --> 00:32:08.037
you're just fishing with invisible bait.

00:32:09.038 --> 00:32:11.058
There's nothing to discern these ten posts

00:32:11.078 --> 00:32:12.759
from each other other than salary,

00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.941
if they even list it, or location, right?

00:32:15.961 --> 00:32:16.761
So I'm guessing.

00:32:17.201 --> 00:32:18.762
And then you're confused why more people

00:32:18.803 --> 00:32:20.703
don't apply or why you have to go

00:32:20.743 --> 00:32:22.444
through a whole stack of hay to find

00:32:22.484 --> 00:32:22.904
a needle.

00:32:23.565 --> 00:32:24.506
You're being beige.

00:32:25.386 --> 00:32:27.109
And then I even said the clinics pay

00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:28.191
a sameness tax.

00:32:28.811 --> 00:32:30.314
What I mean by that is, let's say,

00:32:30.654 --> 00:32:31.576
God forbid,

00:32:31.876 --> 00:32:34.440
you did create an amazing clinic that did

00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:35.301
all the things.

00:32:35.721 --> 00:32:36.544
And you're sitting here going,

00:32:36.584 --> 00:32:37.224
look at this thing.

00:32:37.244 --> 00:32:37.865
We invested.

00:32:38.185 --> 00:32:38.567
We made.

00:32:38.686 --> 00:32:40.308
We have all the things that PTs are

00:32:40.328 --> 00:32:40.710
looking for.

00:32:42.315 --> 00:32:43.935
but the job posting was boring as hell.

00:32:44.135 --> 00:32:46.497
Imagine if Josh Funk wrote boring posts.

00:32:47.018 --> 00:32:48.939
He'd be like, look at this dope facility.

00:32:48.979 --> 00:32:49.898
Why is no one showing up?

00:32:50.199 --> 00:32:51.740
And I'm saying you did the hard work

00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:53.661
of creating the environment and then you

00:32:53.701 --> 00:32:55.541
put up a beige post.

00:32:56.482 --> 00:32:58.584
So I'm sort of taking the clinician side

00:32:58.703 --> 00:33:03.246
maybe a little more because they really

00:33:03.826 --> 00:33:07.167
can't change the post or they can't read

00:33:07.989 --> 00:33:09.308
between the lines because the lines are

00:33:09.328 --> 00:33:10.049
all the same.

00:33:12.324 --> 00:33:15.165
I think there's a buyer's market and a

00:33:15.205 --> 00:33:15.965
seller's market.

00:33:17.926 --> 00:33:20.909
It is a buyer's market right now.

00:33:20.949 --> 00:33:22.388
The buyer is the clinician.

00:33:23.309 --> 00:33:25.310
They command the conversation,

00:33:25.391 --> 00:33:26.751
they command the salaries,

00:33:26.771 --> 00:33:28.192
they command everything.

00:33:28.772 --> 00:33:30.432
And even locally here, I mean,

00:33:30.834 --> 00:33:32.354
one of the topics I pitched to you

00:33:32.394 --> 00:33:34.214
about today was rationing care.

00:33:34.756 --> 00:33:36.797
Like when do we have the conversation

00:33:36.836 --> 00:33:39.137
about rationing physical therapy care?

00:33:40.597 --> 00:33:42.259
because we don't have enough to go around.

00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.319
And so the therapist who wants to take

00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:45.921
somebody through forty visits,

00:33:46.580 --> 00:33:49.942
they're taking away thirty visits from

00:33:50.022 --> 00:33:50.643
other people.

00:33:50.682 --> 00:33:53.023
They're denying care to three or four

00:33:53.244 --> 00:33:55.165
other patients if they would have split

00:33:55.205 --> 00:33:57.547
the forty visits across four people

00:33:57.606 --> 00:33:59.448
instead of dedicating the one.

00:34:00.087 --> 00:34:01.709
Nobody is talking about that.

00:34:02.509 --> 00:34:04.050
I took two or three calls this week,

00:34:04.070 --> 00:34:05.251
and I don't want to change the topic

00:34:05.271 --> 00:34:05.872
from recruiting,

00:34:05.912 --> 00:34:08.934
but I took two or three calls this

00:34:08.994 --> 00:34:09.275
week.

00:34:09.755 --> 00:34:11.498
Every single one of them was like,

00:34:11.577 --> 00:34:12.418
I called the hospital.

00:34:12.478 --> 00:34:13.239
I can't get into October.

00:34:13.259 --> 00:34:16.762
Okay, well, we'll see you tomorrow.

00:34:17.523 --> 00:34:19.744
I can make the schedule work,

00:34:19.864 --> 00:34:21.027
even though we're booked.

00:34:21.746 --> 00:34:23.327
I can make the schedule work to get

00:34:23.367 --> 00:34:25.128
you in within twenty four hours.

00:34:25.148 --> 00:34:26.728
Right.

00:34:26.748 --> 00:34:28.550
But like I had a patient yesterday,

00:34:28.730 --> 00:34:29.809
been seeing her for months.

00:34:30.050 --> 00:34:31.931
I want to refer her to an OT.

00:34:32.070 --> 00:34:33.952
There is no OT for me to refer

00:34:33.992 --> 00:34:34.351
her to.

00:34:34.992 --> 00:34:36.612
I want a mobile OT will go out

00:34:36.632 --> 00:34:37.172
to the house.

00:34:37.253 --> 00:34:37.913
Doesn't exist.

00:34:38.592 --> 00:34:40.653
Best case scenario is I make her go

00:34:40.693 --> 00:34:43.135
to the hospital for outpatient OT there.

00:34:43.934 --> 00:34:44.976
It's going to be, you know,

00:34:45.076 --> 00:34:46.496
months before she can get in.

00:34:46.516 --> 00:34:47.556
There's no priority.

00:34:48.623 --> 00:34:50.905
And it's I, I just give up,

00:34:51.266 --> 00:34:52.407
I don't refer anymore.

00:34:53.186 --> 00:34:54.427
You know, and so like,

00:34:54.467 --> 00:34:55.268
that's what I've said,

00:34:55.509 --> 00:34:57.070
I think is the biggest threat to the

00:34:57.110 --> 00:35:00.751
profession is the people who refer to our

00:35:01.072 --> 00:35:04.295
our profession are gonna quit referring

00:35:04.335 --> 00:35:06.695
because there's no one to refer to.

00:35:06.715 --> 00:35:09.117
Yeah, you can find alternatives.

00:35:09.358 --> 00:35:10.978
How many times is a physician going to

00:35:11.018 --> 00:35:12.820
touch the stove and burn themselves before

00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:13.661
they stop touching,

00:35:13.701 --> 00:35:15.143
before they stop reaching for the stove?

00:35:15.603 --> 00:35:16.744
How many times are they going to refer

00:35:16.784 --> 00:35:17.164
to us?

00:35:17.284 --> 00:35:19.385
And then they hear back from that patient.

00:35:19.405 --> 00:35:19.885
They say, well,

00:35:19.905 --> 00:35:21.106
it's an eight-week wait list.

00:35:22.128 --> 00:35:23.528
And they get frustrated and they just stop

00:35:23.588 --> 00:35:24.070
altogether.

00:35:24.530 --> 00:35:24.710
Yeah.

00:35:24.750 --> 00:35:24.909
Right?

00:35:24.969 --> 00:35:26.311
Wasn't this the big thing?

00:35:26.331 --> 00:35:27.572
Yeah.

00:35:27.592 --> 00:35:27.972
I don't know.

00:35:28.032 --> 00:35:28.353
Fifteen,

00:35:28.393 --> 00:35:29.893
twenty years ago when physician-owned

00:35:29.934 --> 00:35:31.094
practices were the thing, they're like,

00:35:31.114 --> 00:35:31.195
well,

00:35:31.215 --> 00:35:32.635
they're never going to refer out to us.

00:35:33.056 --> 00:35:34.318
It's like, well, now you're so full.

00:35:36.215 --> 00:35:36.855
Your waitlist,

00:35:37.014 --> 00:35:38.536
and people will get into it.

00:35:38.556 --> 00:35:40.016
They'll be pro or anti.

00:35:40.115 --> 00:35:42.516
Some people wear their waitlist length as

00:35:42.536 --> 00:35:43.277
a badge of honor.

00:35:44.057 --> 00:35:46.038
We're six weeks out, man.

00:35:46.278 --> 00:35:47.918
As they wipe the dirt off their shoulder

00:35:47.938 --> 00:35:48.798
and they're like,

00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:50.320
buffing their fingernails.

00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:51.780
We're six weeks out, bro.

00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:52.701
That's how good we are.

00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.101
How do you measure efficiency?

00:35:55.521 --> 00:35:56.382
Or how do you measure good?

00:35:56.782 --> 00:35:57.501
Is it efficient?

00:35:57.922 --> 00:35:58.722
Are you available?

00:35:59.688 --> 00:36:00.690
Um, you know,

00:36:00.971 --> 00:36:02.853
I sort of flirted with the lady at

00:36:02.873 --> 00:36:04.657
the dentist's office to get my dad and

00:36:04.998 --> 00:36:05.820
within seven days,

00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:06.782
cause he had a broken tooth.

00:36:06.802 --> 00:36:09.967
She was like, I dunno, it's, it's August,

00:36:10.068 --> 00:36:10.708
October.

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:12.192
And I was like, oh yeah.

00:36:14.076 --> 00:36:14.876
I'm like, well,

00:36:15.157 --> 00:36:16.797
he's a retired New York City fireman.

00:36:16.818 --> 00:36:17.637
He's in pain.

00:36:17.798 --> 00:36:18.599
He broke a tooth.

00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:19.420
And she's like, all right,

00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:20.721
let me help out.

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:21.840
But if I had been on the phone

00:36:22.021 --> 00:36:23.402
and I hadn't been schmoozing the,

00:36:23.442 --> 00:36:24.402
you know,

00:36:24.463 --> 00:36:25.804
sixty five year old receptionist,

00:36:25.884 --> 00:36:26.463
I have no shame.

00:36:26.523 --> 00:36:27.844
And I will flirt with a sixty five

00:36:27.945 --> 00:36:29.126
year old receptionist to get my dad's

00:36:29.166 --> 00:36:29.726
tooth looked at.

00:36:29.847 --> 00:36:30.487
And I had to.

00:36:30.967 --> 00:36:32.268
But like, that's the problem, right?

00:36:32.327 --> 00:36:34.010
Not enough dentists, not enough PTs,

00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:34.909
not enough, not enough.

00:36:35.289 --> 00:36:36.451
And then you have people saying there's no

00:36:36.731 --> 00:36:38.192
there's no there's no opportunity in the

00:36:38.211 --> 00:36:38.612
profession.

00:36:39.286 --> 00:36:40.706
So now this is where we go back

00:36:40.748 --> 00:36:42.289
to recruiting, to culture.

00:36:42.329 --> 00:36:42.969
It's like, all right,

00:36:42.989 --> 00:36:45.552
so if the candidate is saying,

00:36:45.753 --> 00:36:47.414
I want an hour with every patient,

00:36:47.894 --> 00:36:49.777
I want to determine when I discharge,

00:36:49.996 --> 00:36:51.657
I want the potential to see a patient

00:36:51.677 --> 00:36:53.579
for twenty four visits over multiple

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:53.940
months.

00:36:54.985 --> 00:36:55.847
That's nice,

00:36:56.327 --> 00:36:58.389
but that's going to put me out of

00:36:58.429 --> 00:36:58.971
business.

00:37:00.112 --> 00:37:02.135
It's not even that I can't afford that.

00:37:02.916 --> 00:37:05.920
I literally cannot offer that because one

00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:08.822
of our differentiating factors is we will

00:37:08.983 --> 00:37:10.605
always get a new patient in.

00:37:10.644 --> 00:37:10.865
Right.

00:37:11.967 --> 00:37:13.547
I guess that should be lesson one,

00:37:13.588 --> 00:37:15.130
which is what is your differentiating

00:37:15.170 --> 00:37:15.570
factor?

00:37:15.989 --> 00:37:17.371
And we can tie these things right

00:37:17.391 --> 00:37:17.771
together.

00:37:18.251 --> 00:37:20.454
Because if it's high-paced environment,

00:37:20.875 --> 00:37:21.275
friendly,

00:37:22.056 --> 00:37:23.757
if it's all the cliches and the tropes

00:37:23.777 --> 00:37:25.659
that you're going to see, that ain't it.

00:37:25.798 --> 00:37:27.840
Because now it's the sea of sameness.

00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:28.922
How are you going to stand out in

00:37:28.942 --> 00:37:29.483
the sea of...

00:37:30.003 --> 00:37:31.224
of sameness and you're going to pay a

00:37:31.284 --> 00:37:31.985
tax for that.

00:37:32.184 --> 00:37:32.445
Right.

00:37:33.166 --> 00:37:34.686
I helped someone.

00:37:35.007 --> 00:37:35.907
I won't say who,

00:37:36.088 --> 00:37:37.208
until I ask his permission,

00:37:37.748 --> 00:37:39.670
but I saw someone writing a cheesy,

00:37:39.751 --> 00:37:41.773
boring job description on LinkedIn and we

00:37:41.793 --> 00:37:42.253
were connected.

00:37:42.313 --> 00:37:43.974
So I DM him and said, Hey man,

00:37:44.875 --> 00:37:47.257
can you send me the actual,

00:37:48.478 --> 00:37:49.539
the thing they shared was sort of a

00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:50.340
truncated version.

00:37:50.739 --> 00:37:51.740
Give me the full thing.

00:37:52.121 --> 00:37:53.762
And he goes, okay, here you go.

00:37:53.842 --> 00:37:55.224
And then I sort of AI'd it,

00:37:55.583 --> 00:37:56.465
gave it to him.

00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.240
And it was blatantly transparent, true,

00:38:00.340 --> 00:38:03.280
honest, to the point where two days later,

00:38:03.340 --> 00:38:05.922
I saw another clinician screenshot it and

00:38:05.961 --> 00:38:06.782
sort of bash it.

00:38:07.362 --> 00:38:09.643
This guy's saying, sixty visits a week.

00:38:10.302 --> 00:38:11.603
And I look at that and say,

00:38:12.262 --> 00:38:13.702
if you don't want sixty visits a week,

00:38:13.943 --> 00:38:15.384
I don't want you applying because that's

00:38:15.403 --> 00:38:16.043
what we do here.

00:38:16.443 --> 00:38:17.704
If this is bad for you,

00:38:18.083 --> 00:38:19.164
I don't want you to apply.

00:38:19.684 --> 00:38:21.644
So like that guy bashing the job

00:38:21.664 --> 00:38:22.824
description proved my point,

00:38:23.144 --> 00:38:24.965
which is your job description

00:38:26.072 --> 00:38:26.391
Therefore,

00:38:26.512 --> 00:38:29.695
your clinic description should remove

00:38:29.876 --> 00:38:31.637
everybody who when you see them on your

00:38:31.717 --> 00:38:32.378
schedule and you go,

00:38:32.418 --> 00:38:33.298
that's not a good fit.

00:38:33.739 --> 00:38:35.181
They should never, ever,

00:38:35.300 --> 00:38:37.001
ever even get past the website.

00:38:37.282 --> 00:38:38.664
They should never get to the phone call

00:38:38.704 --> 00:38:39.905
or the form of the front desk.

00:38:40.144 --> 00:38:41.547
And God forbid, get on your schedule.

00:38:42.166 --> 00:38:43.427
My last patient as a student,

00:38:43.447 --> 00:38:44.208
I've told this story,

00:38:44.608 --> 00:38:46.150
was a pediatric patient.

00:38:47.121 --> 00:38:49.864
like a under-thirteen-year-old who had a

00:38:49.943 --> 00:38:52.686
TMJ that frequently dislocates.

00:38:53.186 --> 00:38:54.108
And I remember being like,

00:38:54.929 --> 00:38:56.050
I know I'm supposed to be a general

00:38:56.130 --> 00:38:57.411
outpatient orthopedic PT,

00:38:57.431 --> 00:38:58.853
but I don't want to go anywhere near

00:38:58.913 --> 00:38:59.193
that.

00:38:59.353 --> 00:39:00.894
And my CI was like, oh, hard no.

00:39:00.934 --> 00:39:01.775
How did that get on the tip?

00:39:01.795 --> 00:39:02.717
Like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:39:02.856 --> 00:39:04.257
I know the perfect PT to send them

00:39:04.297 --> 00:39:05.639
to, twenty minutes away.

00:39:06.260 --> 00:39:08.021
But your job description or your clinic

00:39:08.041 --> 00:39:11.442
description should be more exclusive than

00:39:11.601 --> 00:39:12.242
inclusive.

00:39:12.362 --> 00:39:13.722
And I think as we have the Peace

00:39:13.742 --> 00:39:14.242
Corps gene,

00:39:14.543 --> 00:39:15.963
we want to be everything to everybody.

00:39:16.003 --> 00:39:17.403
And I think that is doing everybody a

00:39:17.523 --> 00:39:18.744
disservice.

00:39:18.864 --> 00:39:19.644
Yeah.

00:39:19.844 --> 00:39:20.065
Yeah.

00:39:20.105 --> 00:39:21.105
So during your...

00:39:22.146 --> 00:39:23.326
Scott is saying if you have a waiting

00:39:23.346 --> 00:39:25.626
list more than forty eight hours.

00:39:26.246 --> 00:39:27.447
Love the bold statement.

00:39:27.487 --> 00:39:28.248
Look at that.

00:39:28.387 --> 00:39:29.208
Forty eight hours.

00:39:29.748 --> 00:39:30.889
You have a problem.

00:39:31.635 --> 00:39:33.179
This type of problem is where the,

00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:35.442
this type of problem is where the profit

00:39:35.501 --> 00:39:35.603
is.

00:39:35.902 --> 00:39:37.405
Have a fixer mindset.

00:39:37.865 --> 00:39:39.409
I don't know how to agree more with

00:39:39.429 --> 00:39:40.210
something like that.

00:39:40.349 --> 00:39:43.094
Scott, what is yours, Tony?

00:39:43.114 --> 00:39:43.355
You said,

00:39:45.003 --> 00:39:46.443
Yeah, objectively,

00:39:46.704 --> 00:39:49.065
our metric was twenty four hours from the

00:39:49.085 --> 00:39:49.746
phone call.

00:39:49.786 --> 00:39:51.967
So if you call, I like that.

00:39:52.027 --> 00:39:53.869
We want you on the schedule booked for

00:39:53.889 --> 00:39:55.530
an appointment within twenty four hours.

00:39:55.590 --> 00:39:55.811
Now,

00:39:55.871 --> 00:39:58.893
there are occasions where the patient

00:39:59.092 --> 00:40:01.355
post-surgical isn't allowed to start less

00:40:01.394 --> 00:40:02.695
than twenty four hours.

00:40:02.775 --> 00:40:03.076
Right.

00:40:03.135 --> 00:40:05.597
But too much can happen between now and

00:40:05.617 --> 00:40:05.818
then.

00:40:06.038 --> 00:40:07.938
And the reality is like we get people

00:40:07.978 --> 00:40:08.619
are like, oh,

00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.621
let's look at next month's calendar and

00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:11.762
I'll book an appointment.

00:40:11.782 --> 00:40:14.384
No, I call us back next month.

00:40:14.864 --> 00:40:17.666
Don't call me now because I'm going to

00:40:17.686 --> 00:40:18.527
get you in right now.

00:40:19.266 --> 00:40:20.447
Let's see what Ben is saying because I

00:40:20.487 --> 00:40:21.809
like what Ben takes the other points.

00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:23.289
I can argue the other way not because

00:40:23.329 --> 00:40:23.871
I believe it,

00:40:24.391 --> 00:40:25.992
but you can make the argument that it

00:40:26.012 --> 00:40:29.275
is higher profit to have less new.

00:40:30.818 --> 00:40:32.440
less new patients and attrition than

00:40:32.500 --> 00:40:33.400
constant churn.

00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:34.882
What is he saying here?

00:40:35.262 --> 00:40:35.663
He's either,

00:40:35.922 --> 00:40:37.483
he might be talking about new hires.

00:40:37.804 --> 00:40:38.344
Oh, new hires.

00:40:38.704 --> 00:40:40.847
And that's an argument that I've,

00:40:41.027 --> 00:40:41.766
I've always heard.

00:40:41.847 --> 00:40:45.010
And I've told my own people and I

00:40:45.050 --> 00:40:46.110
talked to Dave about it.

00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:48.693
I'm like, look, when I was hiring,

00:40:49.744 --> 00:40:50.684
When I was hiring,

00:40:50.864 --> 00:40:52.306
I would tell the candidate, I'm like,

00:40:52.346 --> 00:40:55.788
look, you're a new grad, you're fresh out.

00:40:56.007 --> 00:40:57.708
I understand you don't have the skills.

00:40:57.789 --> 00:40:58.809
I understand you don't have the

00:40:58.869 --> 00:40:59.510
experience,

00:40:59.969 --> 00:41:01.251
but you have the raw materials.

00:41:01.291 --> 00:41:02.291
You have the personality,

00:41:02.311 --> 00:41:03.431
you have the disposition.

00:41:03.492 --> 00:41:04.592
This is what I'm hiring.

00:41:04.632 --> 00:41:06.014
I'm not hiring your knowledge and

00:41:06.074 --> 00:41:06.693
expertise.

00:41:07.655 --> 00:41:09.135
I will make the trade.

00:41:09.556 --> 00:41:11.177
I would rather have you for a year

00:41:11.217 --> 00:41:11.677
or two,

00:41:11.757 --> 00:41:13.818
knowing you're gonna go on to be better

00:41:13.958 --> 00:41:16.079
and greater than I can provide on my

00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:16.681
platform.

00:41:17.481 --> 00:41:18.581
But I'm going to get the best of

00:41:18.621 --> 00:41:20.481
you for now, you know,

00:41:20.922 --> 00:41:22.943
and I am going to turn over my

00:41:23.003 --> 00:41:26.563
staff every two or three years because my

00:41:26.603 --> 00:41:28.164
compensation doesn't go up.

00:41:28.704 --> 00:41:30.125
Medicare just keeps cutting.

00:41:30.885 --> 00:41:33.826
I can't provide that cost of living raise.

00:41:34.246 --> 00:41:36.126
So my business model for a long time

00:41:36.166 --> 00:41:37.286
was come in,

00:41:37.608 --> 00:41:39.188
give me a year or two, maybe three,

00:41:39.887 --> 00:41:41.568
move on to the next opportunity,

00:41:41.628 --> 00:41:44.250
and I'll bring in new talent every single

00:41:44.309 --> 00:41:44.869
couple of years.

00:41:45.429 --> 00:41:46.471
because I can't raise you.

00:41:46.530 --> 00:41:48.532
I can't give you the compensation you need

00:41:48.552 --> 00:41:49.012
or deserve.

00:41:49.833 --> 00:41:51.373
Ben, Ben then chimed in and just said,

00:41:52.414 --> 00:41:54.155
no, I don't know.

00:41:54.175 --> 00:41:55.496
We might not be understanding what Ben is

00:41:55.516 --> 00:41:55.715
saying.

00:41:55.795 --> 00:41:56.476
Ben, if you're,

00:41:56.617 --> 00:41:58.657
if you want to chime in, uh,

00:41:58.737 --> 00:41:59.958
I will DM you my phone number and

00:41:59.998 --> 00:42:01.478
we can do a live call or whatever

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:02.300
to get.

00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.800
Cause Ben usually has really good points.

00:42:05.141 --> 00:42:05.422
Yeah.

00:42:05.442 --> 00:42:06.481
He's got the experience.

00:42:06.601 --> 00:42:07.483
He's been counterpoints.

00:42:07.742 --> 00:42:08.023
Like he,

00:42:08.083 --> 00:42:09.284
like I like when he takes the other

00:42:09.324 --> 00:42:09.543
side.

00:42:09.623 --> 00:42:11.244
Cause it's like, okay, okay.

00:42:11.405 --> 00:42:12.666
What do we do if that's the case?

00:42:13.228 --> 00:42:15.429
And then if he was talking about patient

00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:18.050
turnover, I would say the same thing.

00:42:18.170 --> 00:42:20.472
I get the highest compensation per minute

00:42:20.492 --> 00:42:21.552
for an evaluation.

00:42:22.012 --> 00:42:24.215
I have no problem just churning through

00:42:24.255 --> 00:42:26.755
the evaluations, get the revenue up,

00:42:27.317 --> 00:42:28.717
but I would need a clinician who

00:42:28.856 --> 00:42:31.438
understands their role in that business

00:42:31.478 --> 00:42:31.759
model.

00:42:31.778 --> 00:42:32.639
Oh, okay.

00:42:32.699 --> 00:42:34.621
He's saying constantly getting in new

00:42:34.641 --> 00:42:36.302
patients will actually cost the clinic

00:42:36.461 --> 00:42:39.403
more compared to if it can keep the

00:42:39.423 --> 00:42:41.085
patients it has coming in.

00:42:41.625 --> 00:42:43.827
Not unless you optimize for it.

00:42:44.467 --> 00:42:48.329
And only if you're looking at lead

00:42:48.369 --> 00:42:49.630
generation as a cost.

00:42:49.811 --> 00:42:51.371
Like we don't have any lead generation

00:42:51.411 --> 00:42:51.791
costs.

00:42:52.253 --> 00:42:54.014
If I was marketing and I was paying

00:42:54.054 --> 00:42:55.355
for all these new patients,

00:42:55.394 --> 00:42:58.257
Facebook and that stuff, absolutely.

00:42:59.237 --> 00:43:00.498
We have a steady flow,

00:43:00.858 --> 00:43:02.679
ten to twelve new patients a week.

00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:04.820
We don't pay anything for them.

00:43:04.860 --> 00:43:05.980
We don't market for them.

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.721
There's nowhere else for them to go.

00:43:09.061 --> 00:43:10.961
They're actively trying to go somewhere

00:43:11.001 --> 00:43:12.063
else and they can't get in,

00:43:12.103 --> 00:43:13.202
so they come to us.

00:43:14.063 --> 00:43:15.324
And from my perspective,

00:43:15.364 --> 00:43:19.326
we've optimized the workflow so that it

00:43:19.985 --> 00:43:20.606
used to be,

00:43:20.666 --> 00:43:22.086
and I totally agree with Ben,

00:43:22.246 --> 00:43:23.788
it used to be more expensive.

00:43:23.807 --> 00:43:25.509
And I've got old videos saying

00:43:26.128 --> 00:43:27.333
keep your patients on,

00:43:27.413 --> 00:43:28.818
complete the plan of care.

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.306
More new patients is more expense.

00:43:32.382 --> 00:43:34.063
But then at some point in the last

00:43:34.103 --> 00:43:35.804
decade or so, we changed things.

00:43:35.824 --> 00:43:37.626
And I was like, no, I'm happy.

00:43:37.786 --> 00:43:39.728
I'll do a twenty minute about show you

00:43:39.748 --> 00:43:40.867
three things to do at home.

00:43:41.748 --> 00:43:42.969
Turn that table over.

00:43:43.369 --> 00:43:44.931
I said this in the clinic the other

00:43:44.951 --> 00:43:45.210
day.

00:43:45.610 --> 00:43:47.112
Patient was sitting around talking,

00:43:47.192 --> 00:43:47.773
socializing.

00:43:47.793 --> 00:43:48.373
I was like, hey,

00:43:48.693 --> 00:43:50.054
we need to turn this table over.

00:43:50.454 --> 00:43:51.175
We need more people.

00:43:51.215 --> 00:43:52.976
We need new people coming in here.

00:43:53.255 --> 00:43:53.936
You're finished.

00:43:53.996 --> 00:43:55.518
Get out of here and go enjoy your

00:43:55.557 --> 00:43:55.818
day.

00:43:56.577 --> 00:43:57.358
Just like a server.

00:43:57.739 --> 00:43:57.818
Oh,

00:43:57.858 --> 00:43:59.202
Chaminade from Colorado saying he's booked

00:43:59.443 --> 00:44:00.405
out three weeks at least.

00:44:00.545 --> 00:44:01.947
Usually not sure how that's less

00:44:02.027 --> 00:44:02.429
profitable.

00:44:02.608 --> 00:44:03.650
Well, he's got a different format, right?

00:44:03.670 --> 00:44:05.253
Because he's a solo player, I believe.

00:44:05.635 --> 00:44:07.018
So it's going to be different for each,

00:44:07.077 --> 00:44:07.318
right?

00:44:07.398 --> 00:44:08.239
Absolutely.

00:44:09.365 --> 00:44:11.246
Yeah, Ben is then saying the admin burden.

00:44:11.367 --> 00:44:14.027
I think he's continuing saying on the same

00:44:14.106 --> 00:44:15.106
idea, the admin burden,

00:44:15.648 --> 00:44:16.608
the percent of no show,

00:44:16.628 --> 00:44:17.668
the cost of acquisition.

00:44:17.748 --> 00:44:19.768
You need to know your customer acquisition

00:44:19.809 --> 00:44:20.048
cost.

00:44:20.068 --> 00:44:20.528
Right.

00:44:22.228 --> 00:44:24.230
And those three things are huge.

00:44:24.869 --> 00:44:26.869
So from my perspective,

00:44:26.949 --> 00:44:28.811
how do I deal with each of those?

00:44:29.490 --> 00:44:30.451
Admin burden.

00:44:31.672 --> 00:44:34.431
We've streamlined the admission process to

00:44:34.552 --> 00:44:35.652
practically nothing.

00:44:35.793 --> 00:44:36.873
It's a single signature.

00:44:37.172 --> 00:44:37.835
We did this before.

00:44:38.295 --> 00:44:39.739
If I want to go from website to

00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:40.541
seeing Tony,

00:44:41.704 --> 00:44:42.806
how many steps are there and what are

00:44:42.827 --> 00:44:42.947
they?

00:44:43.268 --> 00:44:44.150
They're not fancy at all.

00:44:45.675 --> 00:44:47.277
I mean, most people are still calling.

00:44:47.336 --> 00:44:49.239
We do not have online scheduling.

00:44:49.298 --> 00:44:50.099
I've pushed for it.

00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:50.519
I've tried.

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:51.940
There's no good way for us to get

00:44:51.981 --> 00:44:54.742
that done, just on the technology side.

00:44:54.782 --> 00:44:55.804
But aside from that.

00:44:56.905 --> 00:44:59.547
Calendly.

00:44:59.606 --> 00:45:01.367
You call, we get you in.

00:45:01.768 --> 00:45:02.869
I don't care if I have three other

00:45:02.909 --> 00:45:05.010
patients scheduled in that block of time.

00:45:05.210 --> 00:45:06.572
You call, I will get you in.

00:45:07.393 --> 00:45:09.273
You have the priority as the new patient

00:45:09.313 --> 00:45:10.695
over everybody else in the clinic.

00:45:10.755 --> 00:45:12.076
I just won't charge for those other

00:45:12.675 --> 00:45:13.097
visits.

00:45:13.157 --> 00:45:15.318
I have no problem not charging for those

00:45:15.378 --> 00:45:16.057
other visits.

00:45:16.378 --> 00:45:17.219
They can still come in.

00:45:17.259 --> 00:45:18.219
They can still work out.

00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:19.320
They can still do their stuff.

00:45:19.340 --> 00:45:21.422
They would have no idea that they didn't

00:45:21.461 --> 00:45:23.682
get a physical therapy treatment billed to

00:45:23.702 --> 00:45:24.342
the insurance.

00:45:25.103 --> 00:45:26.204
So I eliminate that.

00:45:27.804 --> 00:45:29.445
We have no acquisition costs because,

00:45:29.485 --> 00:45:29.907
like I said,

00:45:29.927 --> 00:45:32.188
we're the only option in town if you

00:45:32.208 --> 00:45:33.088
want to get in quickly.

00:45:33.992 --> 00:45:34.833
The docs know us,

00:45:34.873 --> 00:45:35.813
we've been around forever.

00:45:36.233 --> 00:45:37.414
We don't market anything.

00:45:38.436 --> 00:45:39.675
And then from the administrative

00:45:39.715 --> 00:45:40.297
perspective,

00:45:40.336 --> 00:45:41.838
it's literally take the picture of the

00:45:41.878 --> 00:45:43.418
cards, put them into the system.

00:45:43.918 --> 00:45:45.760
Pretty much everybody around here has

00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:47.661
three insurance plans.

00:45:48.081 --> 00:45:51.543
It's Medicare, it's United, it's Anthem.

00:45:51.563 --> 00:45:53.264
Occasionally we'll get an Aetna or a

00:45:53.324 --> 00:45:53.844
Humana,

00:45:53.864 --> 00:45:55.985
but it's not that big of a deal.

00:45:56.646 --> 00:45:57.726
And the same thing,

00:45:57.947 --> 00:45:59.748
and this goes to the culture of the

00:45:59.807 --> 00:46:00.467
organization.

00:46:00.527 --> 00:46:02.128
I talked to my wife yesterday about it.

00:46:02.188 --> 00:46:02.789
I was like, look,

00:46:03.590 --> 00:46:05.429
We could hire an admin person,

00:46:06.391 --> 00:46:08.710
pay him forty, fifty thousand a year,

00:46:09.931 --> 00:46:13.192
or we could take a fifty thousand dollar

00:46:13.291 --> 00:46:16.371
loss on authorizations that should have

00:46:16.391 --> 00:46:19.432
been gotten and didn't get got or,

00:46:19.492 --> 00:46:19.733
you know,

00:46:19.773 --> 00:46:21.992
claims that got denied and never got

00:46:22.052 --> 00:46:22.793
reprocessed.

00:46:22.813 --> 00:46:23.773
Right.

00:46:23.833 --> 00:46:24.614
My gamble,

00:46:25.114 --> 00:46:28.474
I probably lose less than I would pay

00:46:28.635 --> 00:46:30.235
in an administrative person.

00:46:30.275 --> 00:46:30.554
Recoup it.

00:46:31.701 --> 00:46:33.380
Just making the mistakes and that's okay.

00:46:33.581 --> 00:46:35.481
Yeah, I'm happy to lose twenty thousand,

00:46:35.581 --> 00:46:37.922
not not getting authorization on a couple

00:46:37.943 --> 00:46:38.463
of cases,

00:46:39.043 --> 00:46:41.324
then lose fifty thousand hiring an admin

00:46:41.364 --> 00:46:41.623
person.

00:46:41.923 --> 00:46:42.764
And I'm not growing.

00:46:43.184 --> 00:46:44.003
That's the other part of it.

00:46:44.043 --> 00:46:44.764
I'm not growing.

00:46:44.804 --> 00:46:46.105
I'm not opening more locations.

00:46:46.125 --> 00:46:47.804
I have zero interest in growing the

00:46:47.844 --> 00:46:48.684
clinical side.

00:46:50.005 --> 00:46:52.947
So so my advice is very different than

00:46:53.027 --> 00:46:54.606
maybe what somebody else would say.

00:46:54.867 --> 00:46:56.288
This is where I think a call-in show

00:46:56.307 --> 00:46:58.469
would be great because a lot of these

00:46:58.489 --> 00:46:59.389
things do depend.

00:47:00.490 --> 00:47:01.972
If you were doing Dave Ramsey,

00:47:02.211 --> 00:47:03.592
it would be like, well, what's your goal?

00:47:03.632 --> 00:47:04.213
What's your goal?

00:47:04.512 --> 00:47:05.393
If it's not growing,

00:47:05.414 --> 00:47:07.255
then it's going to be wildly different

00:47:07.295 --> 00:47:09.777
than if it were staying the same or

00:47:10.157 --> 00:47:10.717
downsizing.

00:47:12.318 --> 00:47:13.818
Ben chimes in again, like a restaurant,

00:47:13.838 --> 00:47:15.199
do you have five sittings in a night

00:47:15.260 --> 00:47:15.639
or two?

00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:17.101
Both can be profitable if set up.

00:47:17.141 --> 00:47:18.382
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:20.739 --> 00:47:21.619
Not to change the subject,

00:47:21.639 --> 00:47:23.440
but got to share this.

00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.059
This is a friend of mine sent me

00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:26.880
this video that I went to undergrad with.

00:47:26.900 --> 00:47:28.081
So he's not a PT at all,

00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.101
but because he sees so much PT content

00:47:30.461 --> 00:47:32.121
and he DMs me every once in a

00:47:32.141 --> 00:47:32.581
while.

00:47:32.902 --> 00:47:34.481
So Carl sent me this.

00:47:35.222 --> 00:47:37.322
I've never really tried to get free stuff

00:47:38.143 --> 00:47:40.284
for PT Breakfast Club, but Tony,

00:47:40.503 --> 00:47:42.103
I want to get one of these for

00:47:42.204 --> 00:47:42.804
each of us.

00:47:42.983 --> 00:47:43.483
Are you ready?

00:47:44.264 --> 00:47:45.465
Kudos to this clinic.

00:47:56.038 --> 00:48:01.902
charting break lager they made their their

00:48:01.961 --> 00:48:05.644
own they made their own beer uh how

00:48:05.664 --> 00:48:06.985
do we get in on this i want

00:48:07.005 --> 00:48:09.527
to get me some charting break lager i

00:48:09.547 --> 00:48:11.429
mean that would be an out-of-the-box way

00:48:11.469 --> 00:48:13.789
to be like listen our average uh our

00:48:14.150 --> 00:48:15.891
our clinicians on average do uh

00:48:16.610 --> 00:48:18.150
Forty-five minutes of documentation,

00:48:18.931 --> 00:48:20.152
but everybody gets a shift beer.

00:48:20.851 --> 00:48:22.331
In the restaurant industry, a shift beer,

00:48:22.612 --> 00:48:23.532
you get free beer at the end of

00:48:23.552 --> 00:48:23.913
your shift.

00:48:24.112 --> 00:48:25.514
That was like a thing when you had

00:48:25.534 --> 00:48:25.974
a cool boss.

00:48:25.994 --> 00:48:26.673
It was like, all right,

00:48:26.693 --> 00:48:27.394
you can sit down,

00:48:27.934 --> 00:48:29.355
grab any beer you want, make a drink,

00:48:29.375 --> 00:48:29.655
whatever.

00:48:29.755 --> 00:48:31.835
And while you're doing your tables and

00:48:31.856 --> 00:48:33.137
your taxes and your tips, whatever,

00:48:33.436 --> 00:48:34.097
we'll figure it out.

00:48:34.398 --> 00:48:35.297
Charting beers...

00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:41.204
I don't know how much the licensing boards

00:48:41.244 --> 00:48:43.347
would appreciate that, but Proactiv,

00:48:43.367 --> 00:48:45.449
I believe they're out in Washington.

00:48:45.811 --> 00:48:48.994
So one can get word to the brewmaster

00:48:49.034 --> 00:48:49.755
at Proactiv.

00:48:50.356 --> 00:48:52.320
I will drink that on the show.

00:48:53.257 --> 00:48:54.996
We, locally,

00:48:55.077 --> 00:48:59.039
we have Coors Molson distributors and

00:49:00.338 --> 00:49:02.778
their employees get free cases of beer.

00:49:03.380 --> 00:49:04.739
It's the craziest thing to me.

00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.101
And I remember we had them as patients

00:49:07.141 --> 00:49:08.420
at one time and they would come in,

00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:10.541
they'd be like, I've got cases and cases,

00:49:10.581 --> 00:49:11.862
take some, take some.

00:49:11.882 --> 00:49:14.161
So we had, I started off, again,

00:49:14.242 --> 00:49:15.583
I always talk back to when I ran

00:49:15.603 --> 00:49:16.302
a radio station,

00:49:16.483 --> 00:49:18.844
we had Bud Light Free Beer Friday and

00:49:18.884 --> 00:49:19.784
Bud Light was smart enough.

00:49:20.443 --> 00:49:22.244
they would give us a case of beer

00:49:22.545 --> 00:49:24.166
to give away once an hour,

00:49:24.286 --> 00:49:25.967
every hour from seven A to seven P.

00:49:26.068 --> 00:49:26.768
And we do that every week.

00:49:27.048 --> 00:49:27.469
And trust me,

00:49:28.030 --> 00:49:29.550
they got more promotion than they gave

00:49:29.570 --> 00:49:30.472
away beer, right?

00:49:30.891 --> 00:49:32.972
But the bonus was if people waited,

00:49:32.992 --> 00:49:33.954
I don't know if it was two weeks

00:49:33.994 --> 00:49:34.614
or three weeks,

00:49:34.655 --> 00:49:35.856
if you didn't pick up a prize within

00:49:35.896 --> 00:49:37.777
three weeks, it just, it became ours,

00:49:37.836 --> 00:49:38.557
property of us again.

00:49:38.577 --> 00:49:39.297
Oh, nice.

00:49:39.338 --> 00:49:41.860
So I didn't buy a beer for...

00:49:43.221 --> 00:49:44.702
eight years i didn't have to i had

00:49:44.884 --> 00:49:46.284
so many beers i would give it away

00:49:46.445 --> 00:49:47.527
i would show up to the party and

00:49:47.606 --> 00:49:48.728
i was the most popular guy when i

00:49:48.748 --> 00:49:49.730
walked i'm like do you guys need three

00:49:49.769 --> 00:49:51.391
cases of beer because i didn't want it

00:49:51.411 --> 00:49:52.474
to go bad or i had to actually

00:49:52.514 --> 00:49:55.036
throw it away so maybe this is another

00:49:55.056 --> 00:49:56.798
twist too right so we started with bud

00:49:56.818 --> 00:49:57.621
light free beer friday

00:49:58.876 --> 00:50:00.318
Then Miller Lite was like,

00:50:00.518 --> 00:50:02.438
we want Thursdays, right?

00:50:02.478 --> 00:50:03.079
Thursdays.

00:50:03.940 --> 00:50:06.541
And so there was Miller Thursdays or it's

00:50:06.581 --> 00:50:07.581
Miller time Thursdays,

00:50:07.621 --> 00:50:09.202
whatever the catchphrase was at the time,

00:50:09.262 --> 00:50:10.143
Bud Light Free Beer Friday.

00:50:10.603 --> 00:50:12.784
Then Coors comes in and I'm sitting with

00:50:12.804 --> 00:50:13.344
them and they're like,

00:50:13.403 --> 00:50:14.204
what are we going to do now?

00:50:14.224 --> 00:50:15.264
Just take Wednesday?

00:50:15.766 --> 00:50:18.746
And I'm like, hold on.

00:50:19.387 --> 00:50:21.108
I thought I went even better and sneakier.

00:50:21.708 --> 00:50:23.710
Do you remember the movie Office Space?

00:50:23.769 --> 00:50:24.309
Yeah, of course.

00:50:24.789 --> 00:50:26.371
looks like someone's got a case of the

00:50:26.391 --> 00:50:29.474
mondays it has the word case in it

00:50:29.733 --> 00:50:31.996
yeah i pitched to chorus light i go

00:50:32.076 --> 00:50:34.277
listen let bud light have friday let

00:50:34.338 --> 00:50:36.780
miller light have thursday when when do

00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:38.501
you really need a beer and like what

00:50:38.521 --> 00:50:39.802
do you mean i'm like and i just

00:50:39.822 --> 00:50:41.143
played the in the meeting i played the

00:50:41.163 --> 00:50:43.224
clip looks like someone's got a case of

00:50:43.244 --> 00:50:44.585
them so we called it cores like case

00:50:44.606 --> 00:50:46.067
of the mondays like hey and the whole

00:50:46.086 --> 00:50:48.528
thing was talking to people at work on

00:50:48.608 --> 00:50:49.108
the worst

00:50:49.809 --> 00:50:50.451
day of the week,

00:50:50.550 --> 00:50:51.791
although I actually saw a recent survey.

00:50:51.831 --> 00:50:52.913
Tuesday is apparently the worst day of the

00:50:52.932 --> 00:50:53.052
week.

00:50:53.072 --> 00:50:53.552
I don't know why.

00:50:54.014 --> 00:50:54.474
But I was like,

00:50:54.494 --> 00:50:55.195
the worst day of the week.

00:50:55.534 --> 00:50:56.596
Mondays suck, man.

00:50:56.635 --> 00:50:57.536
So I was like, they suck.

00:50:57.597 --> 00:50:58.478
And the tagline was,

00:50:58.838 --> 00:51:01.019
make Mondays suck a little bit less for

00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:01.960
the case of Coors Light.

00:51:02.942 --> 00:51:05.103
I don't know who that is.

00:51:05.123 --> 00:51:05.543
Maybe it is Ben.

00:51:05.563 --> 00:51:06.023
Oh, crap.

00:51:06.063 --> 00:51:06.585
I just hung up.

00:51:06.605 --> 00:51:07.545
I thought it was a spam call.

00:51:08.025 --> 00:51:08.726
Ben, was that you?

00:51:08.907 --> 00:51:10.268
Call again if that was you.

00:51:11.329 --> 00:51:12.869
so that was that was the twist that

00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.050
we did we've got nine minutes so we're

00:51:15.070 --> 00:51:17.911
around in the corner let's talk about on

00:51:17.951 --> 00:51:19.731
a serious note because i i do think

00:51:19.771 --> 00:51:22.972
this is impactful tick tock for me i

00:51:22.992 --> 00:51:25.172
think i've said this before it is just

00:51:25.213 --> 00:51:28.193
a stream of rage baiting i swear most

00:51:28.313 --> 00:51:30.934
of the stuff tick tock oh yeah most

00:51:30.994 --> 00:51:33.135
of the stuff that i see cannot be

00:51:33.215 --> 00:51:36.036
real these are people that have to be

00:51:36.076 --> 00:51:38.717
trying to grow you know their revenue by

00:51:38.777 --> 00:51:40.918
saying the most absurd ridiculous stuff

00:51:42.125 --> 00:51:44.965
video came across and it was i'm not

00:51:44.985 --> 00:51:46.746
going to mention the the video but

00:51:46.786 --> 00:51:49.606
basically it was a young female i'm young

00:51:49.646 --> 00:51:50.987
i'm going to say late twenties early

00:51:51.027 --> 00:51:53.947
thirties uh roll later in front of her

00:51:54.447 --> 00:51:57.568
well-dressed big smile on her face saying

00:51:57.608 --> 00:52:00.110
that a physical therapist basically ruined

00:52:00.130 --> 00:52:02.411
her life a physical therapist i saw this

00:52:02.490 --> 00:52:04.451
yeah hurt me a physical therapist

00:52:04.490 --> 00:52:07.612
herniated two discs blamed every every

00:52:07.652 --> 00:52:09.291
single video starts with a physical

00:52:09.331 --> 00:52:10.753
therapist hurt me

00:52:11.773 --> 00:52:12.353
I'm like, what?

00:52:12.393 --> 00:52:12.514
No.

00:52:12.653 --> 00:52:13.855
So, of course, I'm hooked.

00:52:14.215 --> 00:52:15.235
I'm watching it.

00:52:15.797 --> 00:52:18.179
And this person goes through and looking

00:52:18.219 --> 00:52:19.199
at the person, you know,

00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.521
they're relatively healthy, fit looking.

00:52:21.561 --> 00:52:22.943
You can't see what's behind the scenes,

00:52:22.983 --> 00:52:25.565
but says that the physical therapist had

00:52:25.606 --> 00:52:26.646
her doing a deadlift.

00:52:26.706 --> 00:52:27.668
And I was like, oh, deadlift.

00:52:28.510 --> 00:52:29.510
five-pound dumbbells.

00:52:29.530 --> 00:52:30.731
I was like, come on.

00:52:30.972 --> 00:52:33.414
Then ten, then fifteen, twenty-fives,

00:52:33.454 --> 00:52:34.335
then went to a bar.

00:52:35.396 --> 00:52:37.679
The story is, as I understand it,

00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:38.559
and I could be wrong,

00:52:39.260 --> 00:52:41.724
the physical therapist asked her to do,

00:52:42.224 --> 00:52:43.666
I think it was a barbell,

00:52:44.266 --> 00:52:47.168
and I want to say twenty-fives on each

00:52:47.188 --> 00:52:48.550
side, maybe ninety-five pounds.

00:52:48.811 --> 00:52:49.672
Totally reasonable.

00:52:50.896 --> 00:52:55.157
And she herniated a cervical spine disc

00:52:55.217 --> 00:52:57.217
and a lumbar spine disc and it's ruined

00:52:57.257 --> 00:52:57.717
her life.

00:52:57.737 --> 00:52:59.878
She can't work, she can't function,

00:53:01.380 --> 00:53:02.659
can't afford her house,

00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:04.561
husband and her moving to her mom's house.

00:53:05.260 --> 00:53:07.822
Every single day there's new videos and

00:53:07.882 --> 00:53:09.922
every single day it's leveraging this

00:53:10.043 --> 00:53:13.483
injury that was caused by this physical

00:53:13.503 --> 00:53:17.005
therapist who in my opinion did absolutely

00:53:17.125 --> 00:53:19.485
nothing wrong, nothing crazy.

00:53:20.543 --> 00:53:22.625
But even in the best of situations,

00:53:22.764 --> 00:53:24.706
she sounds very legit.

00:53:24.827 --> 00:53:26.708
I think she really believes that she's

00:53:26.728 --> 00:53:28.851
been disabled by this physical therapist.

00:53:29.391 --> 00:53:31.373
She's never talked about litigation yet,

00:53:31.934 --> 00:53:34.896
but she did announce a program to help

00:53:35.016 --> 00:53:37.318
other people who are suffering in the same

00:53:37.358 --> 00:53:37.739
way.

00:53:38.358 --> 00:53:40.481
And I'm sure it's gonna turn into a

00:53:40.541 --> 00:53:43.304
paid program and I'm sure she's seen the

00:53:43.423 --> 00:53:45.266
obscene amounts of money that come

00:53:45.306 --> 00:53:45.646
through.

00:53:46.706 --> 00:53:49.268
and i'm just like oh man like this

00:53:49.407 --> 00:53:52.349
this is why i as a physical therapist

00:53:52.630 --> 00:53:55.010
understanding muscle physiology

00:53:55.150 --> 00:53:56.771
understanding exercise science

00:53:56.911 --> 00:53:59.554
understanding dosing you know you see the

00:53:59.594 --> 00:54:01.514
jokes about therapists using yellow

00:54:01.534 --> 00:54:05.056
therabands for everything um yeah this is

00:54:05.115 --> 00:54:07.998
why i am never gonna load somebody to

00:54:08.038 --> 00:54:11.460
an appropriate dose for strength when i

00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.621
know that even one in ten thousand people

00:54:14.661 --> 00:54:15.961
could experience this

00:54:17.036 --> 00:54:18.637
And now my life is ruined.

00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:20.518
You know, it's not going to happen.

00:54:21.059 --> 00:54:21.380
Yeah.

00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:22.360
I mean, just you telling me this,

00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:23.601
I've seen one or two of the posts.

00:54:23.641 --> 00:54:24.722
I didn't see the one where now she's

00:54:24.742 --> 00:54:25.702
going to create a course.

00:54:26.603 --> 00:54:28.264
And then it just makes you, you know,

00:54:28.664 --> 00:54:28.804
I,

00:54:28.885 --> 00:54:30.365
it sucks that this is the world where

00:54:30.385 --> 00:54:32.206
now I think, did this actually,

00:54:32.268 --> 00:54:33.829
did any of that actually happen?

00:54:34.429 --> 00:54:35.028
Did it happen?

00:54:35.088 --> 00:54:35.650
And you like,

00:54:36.349 --> 00:54:37.510
now you've got to question sort of

00:54:37.570 --> 00:54:39.132
everything and say,

00:54:39.693 --> 00:54:41.014
you doing it for the ticky tock so

00:54:41.054 --> 00:54:42.755
you can get the blingy bling, right?

00:54:42.775 --> 00:54:43.695
Are you doing it?

00:54:43.735 --> 00:54:44.335
You know, I don't know.

00:54:46.436 --> 00:54:49.481
I just think that this is the kind

00:54:49.521 --> 00:54:50.481
of stuff that

00:54:51.534 --> 00:54:54.476
Leads to I think it's more impactful to

00:54:54.496 --> 00:54:57.418
the profession degrading than all the

00:54:57.458 --> 00:54:59.159
other crazy stuff we see out there.

00:54:59.179 --> 00:54:59.760
Right.

00:54:59.820 --> 00:55:01.059
You know, because this is real.

00:55:01.221 --> 00:55:03.481
This this is like a real lawsuit,

00:55:03.521 --> 00:55:06.583
potentially real negative media.

00:55:07.224 --> 00:55:09.666
And it just feeds into this loop of

00:55:10.246 --> 00:55:11.306
I am fragile.

00:55:11.586 --> 00:55:12.748
I am a victim.

00:55:13.248 --> 00:55:15.349
I have been injured as opposed to.

00:55:16.210 --> 00:55:17.771
And I tell patients when they walk in

00:55:17.811 --> 00:55:20.853
the door, my admission paperwork.

00:55:21.733 --> 00:55:23.835
Physical therapy involves exercise.

00:55:24.016 --> 00:55:25.657
Exercise involves risks.

00:55:25.797 --> 00:55:27.717
It is my job to make sure you

00:55:27.757 --> 00:55:29.358
don't do anything crazy,

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but at the same time,

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there is real risk of injury with anything

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we do here.

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And I can tell you that we brought

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in a whole bunch of new equipment into

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the clinic.

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Every single minute of every single day,

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my first priority is making sure nobody

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trips and falls and cracks their head on

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a piece of equipment.

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I'm not thinking about the best possible

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intervention for this person because I am

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so consumed with making sure you don't get

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hurt.

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Right.

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Before we go, this is where someone went.

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Michelob Ultra ran an ad that said if

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it's physical, it's therapy.

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The APTA had them take it down?

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Did they?

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I don't know.

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This must have been recently.

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Michelob Ultra's only been around for,

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you know, ten years?

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Fifteen years?

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I don't know.

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It's been around a while.

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Has it?

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Really?

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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That sucks if that's true.

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I hate that.

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All right.

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Parting shots.

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Was that your parting shot?

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Parting shots.

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Get out there.

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Produce more content.

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Tell good stories.

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Yeah.

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I'll say this again.

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The distance between you and your next

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hire...

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or you and your next patient is the

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thickness of the glass in your phone.

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I know that sounds like, well,

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it's so easy.

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It's not.

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It's not.

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Go make a hundred mediocre things and then

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you'll notice around a hundred and twenty,

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it's better.

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Isn't that what we say in PT?

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Like it's not going to happen overnight.

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And then we freeze when it's like time

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to do something out of our comfort zone.

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Isn't that your whole pitch?

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Isn't that your whole pitch?

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You can't do one perfect rep.

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You got to do thousands of reps.

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It's not one rep and you're going to

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do nothing.

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You're like, great, go do more reps.

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So get over that.

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We'll be back on Tuesday.

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See you, Tony.

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All right.

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That's it.

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We're out.

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Boys, what the hell are you doing?

00:57:16.025 --> 00:57:18.824
Follow Tony Meritato on YouTube at Total

00:57:18.864 --> 00:57:19.925
Therapy Solution.

00:57:19.965 --> 00:57:20.965
Find Dave Kittle at

00:57:20.985 --> 00:57:24.166
conciergepainrelief.com and on YouTube at

00:57:24.206 --> 00:57:25.385
The Dave Kittle Show.

00:57:25.545 --> 00:57:28.847
And follow Jimmy McKay at PT Pinecast on

00:57:28.867 --> 00:57:30.007
YouTube, the socials,

00:57:30.086 --> 00:57:31.887
and wherever you binge podcasts you

00:57:31.907 --> 00:57:33.568
pretend are for CEUs.

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And hey, just a reminder,

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none of this was for advice.

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This was for entertainment only.

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Our lawyers say that counts.

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Thanks, Keith.