Beyond the Clinic: Leveraging Your PT Skills for Greater Impact

WEBVTT 0:00:00.790 --> 0:00:01.691 Once we're going on here, 0:00:01.770 --> 0:00:02.633 I'm going to hit this thing 0:00:02.673 --> 0:00:03.253 to make it look good. 0:00:08.721 --> 0:00:09.662 When you do the intro, 0:00:09.702 --> 0:00:12.085 it does feel very official, doesn't it? 0:00:12.445 --> 0:00:12.766 Yes. 0:00:13.547 --> 0:00:15.369 I feel like I'm a part of 0:00:15.410 --> 0:00:15.929 something bigger. 0:00:16.823 --> 0:00:17.463 Bigger and better. 0:00:17.483 --> 0:00:17.783 All right. 0:00:17.803 --> 0:00:18.443 Today's guest, 0:00:18.603 --> 0:00:19.925 a trailblazer in the world 0:00:19.964 --> 0:00:22.146 of physical therapy from 0:00:22.185 --> 0:00:24.187 appearing on an episode of Pawn Stars. 0:00:24.207 --> 0:00:25.167 We're going to get into that 0:00:25.207 --> 0:00:27.048 to revolution with his 0:00:27.068 --> 0:00:29.571 mobile practice and YouTube channel. 0:00:29.591 --> 0:00:30.371 We'll talk about that. 0:00:31.332 --> 0:00:32.393 His journey, my journey. 0:00:32.593 --> 0:00:34.374 Is anybody's journey really ordinary? 0:00:34.393 --> 0:00:35.335 I think that's the fun part. 0:00:35.375 --> 0:00:36.435 Like zoomed out, it might. 0:00:36.454 --> 0:00:37.655 But when you start to zoom in, 0:00:37.915 --> 0:00:38.896 we're all a little bit different. 0:00:40.078 --> 0:00:40.878 Michael Derry is here. 0:00:40.957 --> 0:00:41.939 Michael, welcome to the program, man. 0:00:42.716 --> 0:00:44.018 Hey, I appreciate you having me. 0:00:44.438 --> 0:00:45.438 I'm looking forward to just 0:00:45.478 --> 0:00:47.179 chatting and seeing where things go. 0:00:47.198 --> 0:00:47.819 All right. 0:00:47.859 --> 0:00:48.618 Let's start off with, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.299 you've got a unique background. 0:00:50.359 --> 0:00:52.040 What drove you to, you know, establish, 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:53.121 what drove you to now? 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:54.661 Let's, let's go with your, like, you know, 0:00:54.942 --> 0:00:56.203 all good movies or 0:00:56.222 --> 0:00:57.423 especially superhero movies. 0:00:57.442 --> 0:00:58.863 They're all origin stories, really. 0:00:58.944 --> 0:01:01.924 What made that superhero or the villain? 0:01:01.984 --> 0:01:02.984 It's always more interesting. 0:01:03.005 --> 0:01:05.126 The villain is typically deeper, but what, 0:01:05.266 --> 0:01:05.807 what, you know, 0:01:05.867 --> 0:01:06.706 what brought you to here 0:01:06.766 --> 0:01:07.667 and how has it aligned with 0:01:07.706 --> 0:01:08.567 your personal and 0:01:08.608 --> 0:01:09.787 professional aspirations 0:01:09.808 --> 0:01:10.989 now that you're doing what you do, 0:01:11.028 --> 0:01:11.668 which we'll get into? 0:01:12.739 --> 0:01:13.060 Sure. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:13.340 Yeah. 0:01:13.359 --> 0:01:15.283 I mean, my story is pretty classic. 0:01:15.423 --> 0:01:15.582 I mean, 0:01:15.643 --> 0:01:17.144 other than I got into PT and I had 0:01:17.284 --> 0:01:18.326 no previous injury. 0:01:18.466 --> 0:01:19.207 So that's a big one. 0:01:19.308 --> 0:01:19.668 Right. 0:01:19.727 --> 0:01:22.852 And I got in the realm of PT 0:01:22.953 --> 0:01:24.575 just because I like to help people, 0:01:24.674 --> 0:01:25.596 but didn't really like 0:01:25.956 --> 0:01:27.097 other realms of health care. 0:01:27.739 --> 0:01:28.739 And it was that good match 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.460 with the one-on-one care, really, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:31.521 and getting to know people. 0:01:31.540 --> 0:01:33.121 I knew I wanted to influence 0:01:33.182 --> 0:01:33.843 people's health, 0:01:34.123 --> 0:01:36.323 but I couldn't do it in 10, 15 minutes. 0:01:36.364 --> 0:01:37.364 I recognized that then, 0:01:37.424 --> 0:01:38.825 and it still holds true now. 0:01:38.926 --> 0:01:41.466 So I went through PT school. 0:01:41.486 --> 0:01:42.787 That was awesome. 0:01:42.847 --> 0:01:43.989 I went to Bradley University 0:01:44.009 --> 0:01:44.909 in Central Illinois. 0:01:44.929 --> 0:01:47.430 Had a lot of great teachers and resources, 0:01:47.450 --> 0:01:48.131 and that kind of led me 0:01:48.171 --> 0:01:50.552 down the path of wanting to pursue... 0:01:51.572 --> 0:01:52.433 Like certifications. 0:01:52.713 --> 0:01:53.573 So, man, 0:01:53.614 --> 0:01:55.995 I was dead set on becoming an 0:01:56.055 --> 0:01:56.754 orthopedic clinical 0:01:56.795 --> 0:01:57.715 specialist and the 0:01:57.796 --> 0:01:59.195 fellowship and then maybe 0:01:59.256 --> 0:02:01.456 dabbling into teaching just 0:02:01.477 --> 0:02:02.296 because the people I looked 0:02:02.337 --> 0:02:04.237 up to in PT school did those things. 0:02:04.658 --> 0:02:07.118 And I respected them and the 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:08.439 just the interaction they 0:02:08.460 --> 0:02:09.379 had with their clients and 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:10.360 the way they spoke and 0:02:10.401 --> 0:02:11.600 their hands on skills and 0:02:11.640 --> 0:02:12.442 all of those things just 0:02:12.502 --> 0:02:13.282 resonated with me. 0:02:14.073 --> 0:02:14.854 And I'm the type of person 0:02:14.894 --> 0:02:15.854 that if I commit to something, 0:02:15.894 --> 0:02:17.514 I'm gonna do it 100%. 0:02:17.514 --> 0:02:19.116 And so it just matched that 0:02:19.175 --> 0:02:21.177 I could just keep going on and learning. 0:02:22.576 --> 0:02:23.836 So that's kind of exactly what I did. 0:02:23.877 --> 0:02:25.937 I started working as soon as I graduated, 0:02:25.997 --> 0:02:26.937 I started working for 0:02:27.078 --> 0:02:28.639 traditional PT practice. 0:02:29.438 --> 0:02:31.218 It was a PT clinic that's 0:02:31.299 --> 0:02:33.000 all high volume amount of patients. 0:02:33.020 --> 0:02:34.300 And I just got to get my 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:35.560 hands on a lot of people. 0:02:35.620 --> 0:02:36.480 And that helped during the 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:38.040 residency because that was 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:39.520 a hybrid model residency. 0:02:39.561 --> 0:02:41.822 And so I needed a bunch of patient hours. 0:02:42.102 --> 0:02:43.562 And at the time, 0:02:43.622 --> 0:02:45.323 my wife was in PT school as well. 0:02:45.423 --> 0:02:45.603 So 0:02:46.522 --> 0:02:47.563 She was in PT school. 0:02:47.584 --> 0:02:48.044 So I was like, well, 0:02:48.063 --> 0:02:49.125 what am I going to do with my time? 0:02:49.224 --> 0:02:50.586 I'll just continue learning. 0:02:50.626 --> 0:02:51.945 And so I knocked out the 0:02:51.986 --> 0:02:53.467 residency right out of school. 0:02:54.608 --> 0:02:56.609 And then I went on, um, 0:02:56.808 --> 0:02:58.890 B started managing the clinic like other, 0:02:59.510 --> 0:03:00.611 like everybody wants to do 0:03:00.632 --> 0:03:01.772 when you come out of school, you know, 0:03:01.853 --> 0:03:03.533 I want to manage the clinic. 0:03:03.954 --> 0:03:04.193 Right. 0:03:04.253 --> 0:03:04.593 Yeah. 0:03:04.614 --> 0:03:04.813 Yeah. 0:03:04.873 --> 0:03:06.616 Just keep growing my skills. 0:03:06.656 --> 0:03:07.936 And so that's what I did. 0:03:08.856 --> 0:03:09.858 And, um, 0:03:10.038 --> 0:03:11.378 as soon as I finished the residency, 0:03:11.438 --> 0:03:12.679 I was knee deep in managing. 0:03:12.739 --> 0:03:13.479 So I did that, 0:03:13.539 --> 0:03:14.700 learned that for about a year. 0:03:14.741 --> 0:03:14.961 And then 0:03:15.561 --> 0:03:17.663 Once I was getting comfortable, I was like, 0:03:17.682 --> 0:03:18.925 I want to go on to fellowship. 0:03:18.965 --> 0:03:21.086 And that didn't really match 0:03:21.146 --> 0:03:22.627 with what my work demands were. 0:03:22.647 --> 0:03:23.769 And so my work demands were 0:03:23.788 --> 0:03:24.449 seeing patients. 0:03:24.889 --> 0:03:26.151 And I said, hey, I need a step, 0:03:26.372 --> 0:03:27.673 not necessarily step away, 0:03:27.733 --> 0:03:28.974 but I'm going to have some 0:03:28.995 --> 0:03:29.715 responsibilities. 0:03:29.775 --> 0:03:30.735 Can I make both work? 0:03:30.756 --> 0:03:32.157 And then I soon realized I couldn't. 0:03:32.816 --> 0:03:34.417 So then I took a job as a 0:03:34.477 --> 0:03:36.899 staff therapist at healthcare system, um, 0:03:37.558 --> 0:03:40.100 kind of to one allowed me 0:03:40.140 --> 0:03:40.901 to see one-on-one. 0:03:41.581 --> 0:03:42.763 And then I was able to have 0:03:42.823 --> 0:03:43.924 a mentor that I, 0:03:44.104 --> 0:03:45.585 that I really wanted to spend time with. 0:03:45.625 --> 0:03:47.725 That was my professor at my PT school. 0:03:48.086 --> 0:03:48.667 And she was like, Hey, 0:03:48.706 --> 0:03:49.526 I'll be your mentor through 0:03:49.546 --> 0:03:50.068 the fellowship. 0:03:50.108 --> 0:03:50.707 Let's do this. 0:03:50.747 --> 0:03:52.049 And I was like, absolutely. 0:03:52.128 --> 0:03:52.930 I'm a hundred percent in. 0:03:52.949 --> 0:03:54.670 So then I stepped back from 0:03:54.991 --> 0:03:56.072 management skills and step 0:03:56.111 --> 0:03:57.072 towards PT skills. 0:03:57.953 --> 0:03:59.123 And then about 12, 0:03:59.123 --> 0:04:00.715 18 months into fellowship, um, 0:04:01.929 --> 0:04:03.710 I felt like the program was 0:04:03.909 --> 0:04:05.289 trying to make me into them, 0:04:05.830 --> 0:04:06.950 instead of letting me be 0:04:07.290 --> 0:04:08.132 grow as a therapist. 0:04:09.951 --> 0:04:10.953 And I was just, 0:04:11.492 --> 0:04:14.394 I was really challenged and 0:04:14.533 --> 0:04:15.814 doing my absolute best and 0:04:15.835 --> 0:04:16.855 just getting some feedback 0:04:16.894 --> 0:04:18.196 that didn't necessarily 0:04:18.276 --> 0:04:21.456 match who I thought I was as a person. 0:04:22.536 --> 0:04:24.117 And I had to step away. 0:04:24.137 --> 0:04:24.918 It was like the first thing 0:04:24.958 --> 0:04:25.798 in my life that I quit. 0:04:27.238 --> 0:04:28.839 my fiance at the time she 0:04:28.879 --> 0:04:30.420 was very surprised I made 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:31.360 that decision but I was 0:04:31.401 --> 0:04:33.322 just having to like not 0:04:33.382 --> 0:04:34.682 help make wedding decisions 0:04:34.742 --> 0:04:36.204 and step away from personal 0:04:36.244 --> 0:04:37.245 things to step towards this 0:04:37.285 --> 0:04:38.824 fellowship and having to 0:04:38.845 --> 0:04:39.725 make decisions that didn't 0:04:39.766 --> 0:04:41.266 resonate with me well as a 0:04:41.307 --> 0:04:42.367 person human being I'm like 0:04:42.387 --> 0:04:43.427 this is not the reason why 0:04:43.447 --> 0:04:45.588 I started this so I quit 0:04:45.949 --> 0:04:47.490 and I never looked back 0:04:47.529 --> 0:04:49.870 from there and uh at that 0:04:49.990 --> 0:04:52.192 point I started realizing you know 0:04:52.932 --> 0:04:54.595 How is physical therapy serving me? 0:04:54.714 --> 0:04:55.915 How am I leveraging my 0:04:55.956 --> 0:04:57.137 skills and my license? 0:04:57.216 --> 0:05:00.019 And where do I see this going? 0:05:01.701 --> 0:05:02.742 And so at that point in time, 0:05:02.802 --> 0:05:05.404 I was just focusing on personal. 0:05:05.625 --> 0:05:06.665 And so my wife and I got 0:05:06.706 --> 0:05:09.548 married in October of 2019. 0:05:09.548 --> 0:05:10.149 At that point, 0:05:10.189 --> 0:05:11.971 I was about four years out of school. 0:05:12.692 --> 0:05:15.995 And then in, let's see, we know in 2020, 0:05:15.995 --> 0:05:17.637 things got a little wild because 0:05:18.216 --> 0:05:19.278 And we moved. 0:05:19.958 --> 0:05:22.139 We just both had the 0:05:22.180 --> 0:05:24.860 opportunity during COVID to 0:05:24.940 --> 0:05:26.622 step away from our jobs and 0:05:26.661 --> 0:05:27.281 start something new. 0:05:27.401 --> 0:05:29.043 We knew if we started a family in Illinois, 0:05:29.083 --> 0:05:30.403 we'd probably end up staying there. 0:05:31.245 --> 0:05:33.086 And we knew we wanted to go 0:05:33.125 --> 0:05:34.206 somewhere sunnier. 0:05:35.427 --> 0:05:37.108 And I had been toying around 0:05:37.148 --> 0:05:38.548 this idea of starting my own practice. 0:05:39.509 --> 0:05:40.990 And I had never had that 0:05:41.050 --> 0:05:42.389 vision in PT school. 0:05:42.509 --> 0:05:44.129 That was way off my radar. 0:05:44.610 --> 0:05:45.550 I remember sitting down with 0:05:45.571 --> 0:05:47.050 my regional manager and I'm like, hey, 0:05:47.071 --> 0:05:47.711 have you ever thought about 0:05:47.730 --> 0:05:48.512 starting your own thing? 0:05:48.531 --> 0:05:48.851 And he's like, 0:05:49.192 --> 0:05:50.692 I never want to deal with insurance. 0:05:51.291 --> 0:05:52.793 And that was the end of the conversation. 0:05:53.673 --> 0:05:55.334 And so I'd never thought about it. 0:05:55.394 --> 0:05:56.494 But then I was like, man, I'm like, 0:05:56.514 --> 0:05:58.894 I really think I could do this on my own. 0:05:58.954 --> 0:06:00.675 I have no idea business-wise 0:06:00.735 --> 0:06:01.435 what I'm doing, 0:06:01.894 --> 0:06:03.016 but I know I have a good product, 0:06:03.235 --> 0:06:03.956 at least what I thought it 0:06:03.995 --> 0:06:04.995 was a product at that time. 0:06:06.117 --> 0:06:07.317 And so I actually technically... 0:06:07.898 --> 0:06:08.158 you know, 0:06:08.177 --> 0:06:09.517 started that when we were in Illinois. 0:06:09.538 --> 0:06:10.738 And then when we got here in Florida, 0:06:11.119 --> 0:06:12.399 we were living with family. 0:06:12.579 --> 0:06:14.278 We ended up pregnant a 0:06:14.358 --> 0:06:15.879 couple months here in Florida. 0:06:15.899 --> 0:06:17.720 And we were like, we got to find a house. 0:06:18.319 --> 0:06:19.199 And then I was working for a 0:06:19.259 --> 0:06:21.880 company and I went to go on 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:22.781 paternity leave. 0:06:22.860 --> 0:06:23.461 And I was like, Hey, 0:06:23.500 --> 0:06:24.800 like I would love some time off. 0:06:25.341 --> 0:06:26.240 And they're like, yeah, sure. 0:06:26.281 --> 0:06:27.120 Two weeks sounds good. 0:06:27.141 --> 0:06:27.982 I'm like, nah, I'm like, 0:06:28.002 --> 0:06:28.721 it's my first one. 0:06:28.742 --> 0:06:30.601 I would love maybe just a little bit more. 0:06:30.622 --> 0:06:31.762 I don't care if it's not paid. 0:06:32.201 --> 0:06:33.002 Everybody just tells you 0:06:33.023 --> 0:06:34.242 that that time is fleeting. 0:06:34.283 --> 0:06:35.182 You never regret it. 0:06:35.762 --> 0:06:35.982 you know, 0:06:36.041 --> 0:06:37.463 not spending time with your little one. 0:06:37.524 --> 0:06:39.245 So I was trying to heed some 0:06:39.266 --> 0:06:42.108 of that advice and, um, you know, 0:06:42.129 --> 0:06:43.269 they just weren't matching 0:06:43.310 --> 0:06:44.512 what I thought when my needs were. 0:06:45.031 --> 0:06:47.214 And so I remember being in 0:06:47.274 --> 0:06:49.297 the hospital and then just 0:06:49.317 --> 0:06:50.317 telling my wife, like, I'm done. 0:06:50.619 --> 0:06:50.798 Like, 0:06:51.310 --> 0:06:52.372 I'm not going back to that 0:06:52.432 --> 0:06:54.593 job and I'm starting my own thing. 0:06:54.612 --> 0:06:57.694 And so the first few months of his life, 0:06:57.774 --> 0:07:00.237 I was just trying to, you know, 0:07:00.956 --> 0:07:01.958 rock it out and bust out 0:07:02.017 --> 0:07:03.819 all the stuff I had learned in the past, 0:07:04.259 --> 0:07:05.579 being new to the area and 0:07:05.620 --> 0:07:06.699 starting a new business. 0:07:07.341 --> 0:07:08.000 And that's when things just 0:07:08.021 --> 0:07:08.641 started rolling. 0:07:08.802 --> 0:07:10.322 Like I was starting to get 0:07:10.382 --> 0:07:11.062 involved in different 0:07:11.103 --> 0:07:12.504 groups in my business. 0:07:12.584 --> 0:07:14.084 I mean, it was slow. 0:07:14.165 --> 0:07:14.985 I've been at it for two and 0:07:15.005 --> 0:07:15.906 a half years now, 0:07:16.386 --> 0:07:17.086 but now it's grown to 0:07:17.127 --> 0:07:18.408 something that I never thought. 0:07:19.228 --> 0:07:20.009 And I haven't looked back. 0:07:20.028 --> 0:07:20.389 I'm like, 0:07:21.098 --> 0:07:22.598 I've just really enjoyed the ride. 0:07:22.637 --> 0:07:23.478 And so now I have a 0:07:23.519 --> 0:07:24.718 concierge mobile practice 0:07:24.759 --> 0:07:25.918 here in Jacksonville, Florida. 0:07:26.639 --> 0:07:27.759 And I'm kind of leveraging 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:28.600 those skills that I learned 0:07:28.639 --> 0:07:29.959 along the way from management, 0:07:30.019 --> 0:07:31.959 from residency and fellowship. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.721 And then what I've learned being a part of, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:34.461 you know, 0:07:34.500 --> 0:07:35.500 different groups and just 0:07:35.540 --> 0:07:36.622 reading some material and 0:07:36.641 --> 0:07:38.201 trying to flex some skills that I'd never, 0:07:38.922 --> 0:07:40.062 that I was never able to 0:07:40.182 --> 0:07:41.783 like foster or grow in PT 0:07:41.802 --> 0:07:42.882 school or undergrad. 0:07:43.925 --> 0:07:44.725 And I didn't grow up in a 0:07:44.766 --> 0:07:46.687 family that had a business mindset. 0:07:47.187 --> 0:07:48.228 Both my parents just were 0:07:48.269 --> 0:07:49.490 employees their whole life, 0:07:49.569 --> 0:07:50.230 which is fine. 0:07:50.790 --> 0:07:52.132 But I was just trying to 0:07:52.172 --> 0:07:53.012 learn things along the way. 0:07:53.394 --> 0:07:54.834 So that's kind of what led me here today. 0:07:55.194 --> 0:07:55.454 Yeah. 0:07:56.076 --> 0:07:58.017 Well, the decision to quit, 0:07:58.658 --> 0:08:01.120 because I think we're taught as kids, 0:08:01.261 --> 0:08:01.480 right? 0:08:01.540 --> 0:08:02.422 Winners never quit. 0:08:02.901 --> 0:08:04.023 And Seth Godin, 0:08:04.103 --> 0:08:05.745 who's a great business writer, he says, 0:08:06.805 --> 0:08:07.867 winners quit all the time. 0:08:08.966 --> 0:08:10.528 They actually know when to 0:08:10.588 --> 0:08:13.809 quit and what to quit better, typically. 0:08:14.509 --> 0:08:15.350 They take that leap. 0:08:15.370 --> 0:08:15.990 They're like, listen, 0:08:16.069 --> 0:08:17.930 staying in a bad situation 0:08:17.990 --> 0:08:21.091 doesn't mean that you're 0:08:21.211 --> 0:08:22.732 going to guarantee success. 0:08:23.273 --> 0:08:25.112 So just briefly, 0:08:25.153 --> 0:08:27.014 what did you feel in your 0:08:27.074 --> 0:08:27.673 gut that made you, 0:08:27.713 --> 0:08:29.175 I think leaving this is 0:08:29.214 --> 0:08:30.814 actually a better decision for me. 0:08:30.875 --> 0:08:33.235 And from what I heard you say, it was. 0:08:33.836 --> 0:08:34.697 What did it feel like? 0:08:36.822 --> 0:08:37.442 It was awful. 0:08:37.802 --> 0:08:40.024 Like I had never quit anything ever. 0:08:40.264 --> 0:08:43.307 Like I remember almost 0:08:43.368 --> 0:08:45.730 quitting PT school once and I was, 0:08:45.850 --> 0:08:47.451 I felt very ill prepared 0:08:47.551 --> 0:08:48.812 and that was a grind and I 0:08:48.871 --> 0:08:51.134 was able to do it and did just fine. 0:08:51.173 --> 0:08:53.576 But when it came to OCS and 0:08:53.615 --> 0:08:55.498 like I knew if I quit the fellowship, 0:08:55.758 --> 0:08:57.340 my trajectory had changed forever. 0:08:57.460 --> 0:08:58.620 Like there was no way that I 0:08:58.660 --> 0:08:59.621 was able to advance my, 0:09:00.221 --> 0:09:00.902 like what I thought, 0:09:01.162 --> 0:09:01.981 what I needed to be a 0:09:02.042 --> 0:09:04.123 teacher or to leverage those skills. 0:09:04.182 --> 0:09:06.183 So I remember it going 0:09:06.224 --> 0:09:08.604 against every gut feeling 0:09:08.644 --> 0:09:10.684 that I had at that point in 0:09:10.705 --> 0:09:11.504 time and just growing up 0:09:11.544 --> 0:09:12.424 that quitting was just not 0:09:12.445 --> 0:09:13.566 something that we did in my house. 0:09:13.605 --> 0:09:14.846 Like you did it, you did it. 0:09:14.926 --> 0:09:18.647 So, and I remember being on the phone. 0:09:18.667 --> 0:09:20.006 I remember the exact spot 0:09:20.067 --> 0:09:21.288 and location I was when I 0:09:21.347 --> 0:09:22.248 called them and had that 0:09:22.307 --> 0:09:23.427 conversation with like, hey, 0:09:23.467 --> 0:09:24.548 I got to step away from this. 0:09:24.587 --> 0:09:26.828 Like it's not serving me anymore anymore. 0:09:27.241 --> 0:09:28.602 I feel that the first time 0:09:28.663 --> 0:09:29.263 quitting something is 0:09:29.283 --> 0:09:30.004 probably the hardest. 0:09:30.504 --> 0:09:32.065 And then, and then from then, 0:09:32.144 --> 0:09:33.166 like it's been so much 0:09:33.245 --> 0:09:34.846 easier to let go of things 0:09:34.866 --> 0:09:35.587 that I could tell weren't 0:09:35.607 --> 0:09:37.328 serving me personally or professionally. 0:09:37.349 --> 0:09:38.349 Isn't that great? 0:09:38.789 --> 0:09:39.230 Yeah. 0:09:39.269 --> 0:09:39.529 Yeah. 0:09:39.570 --> 0:09:40.070 So it's a little, 0:09:40.171 --> 0:09:41.591 it's a little free freeing 0:09:41.672 --> 0:09:43.472 and I feel like it's so 0:09:43.513 --> 0:09:45.714 much easier to say no now, like no, 0:09:45.854 --> 0:09:47.235 no to the perfect client or 0:09:47.274 --> 0:09:48.255 no to a client that I don't 0:09:48.275 --> 0:09:50.197 feel like I can serve, you know, 0:09:50.216 --> 0:09:51.217 no to different opportunities. 0:09:51.751 --> 0:09:51.912 Well, 0:09:51.932 --> 0:09:53.494 saying yes to the wrong thing means 0:09:53.514 --> 0:09:54.674 you might be saying no to a 0:09:54.695 --> 0:09:55.475 lot of the right things. 0:09:55.495 --> 0:09:56.456 I mean, you mentioned, you know, 0:09:56.496 --> 0:09:57.918 wanting to stay home with a 0:09:57.957 --> 0:09:58.979 new addition to the family. 0:09:59.019 --> 0:10:00.441 It's like, 0:10:00.980 --> 0:10:01.981 you might have two things in 0:10:02.042 --> 0:10:02.982 front of you that are great, 0:10:03.163 --> 0:10:05.306 but you have to decide. 0:10:05.365 --> 0:10:06.186 You have to wake up in the 0:10:06.206 --> 0:10:08.107 middle of the night and say, 0:10:08.227 --> 0:10:09.269 is this the right decision? 0:10:09.308 --> 0:10:09.929 So that's awesome. 0:10:10.750 --> 0:10:11.010 Yeah. 0:10:11.230 --> 0:10:11.451 Yeah. 0:10:11.491 --> 0:10:12.613 You're absolutely right. 0:10:12.732 --> 0:10:13.693 I, you know, I... 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.160 you learn the more you read 0:10:17.201 --> 0:10:17.941 and the more you learn, 0:10:17.961 --> 0:10:19.642 like following your gut goes a long way. 0:10:19.662 --> 0:10:23.263 And, and that's what I did at that moment. 0:10:23.302 --> 0:10:23.702 And my wife, 0:10:24.102 --> 0:10:25.144 my fiance at the time was just 0:10:25.203 --> 0:10:27.024 so supportive and she was like, okay, 0:10:27.085 --> 0:10:28.125 like a hundred percent, 0:10:28.164 --> 0:10:30.145 like she was on the same page, 0:10:30.186 --> 0:10:31.645 whether I stayed or went. 0:10:31.666 --> 0:10:32.866 So that was never a thing. 0:10:33.226 --> 0:10:34.866 Um, yeah, it just worked out. 0:10:35.107 --> 0:10:35.727 It just worked out. 0:10:35.788 --> 0:10:35.967 Yeah. 0:10:36.508 --> 0:10:37.388 Uh, what's the pawns? 0:10:37.427 --> 0:10:38.989 You were on an episode of pawn stars, 0:10:39.068 --> 0:10:39.808 which by the way, 0:10:39.889 --> 0:10:42.208 is a show that I never seek out to watch. 0:10:42.328 --> 0:10:43.049 It's just there. 0:10:43.409 --> 0:10:44.870 And next thing you know, three hours later, 0:10:44.909 --> 0:10:46.269 I've watched like six episodes. 0:10:46.850 --> 0:10:48.091 So it's never like, Oh my gosh, 0:10:48.150 --> 0:10:48.931 pawn stars is on. 0:10:48.951 --> 0:10:49.171 It's just, 0:10:49.211 --> 0:10:50.791 I'm flipping and there's the 0:10:51.191 --> 0:10:52.692 best I can do is three 50. 0:10:52.692 --> 0:10:55.152 And I'm like, I'm in, I'm like, why are we, 0:10:55.172 --> 0:10:56.192 I'm invested. 0:10:56.293 --> 0:10:56.592 Yeah. 0:10:56.673 --> 0:10:58.013 It's the story there for pawn stars. 0:10:58.472 --> 0:11:00.875 yeah I mean 21 year old male 0:11:00.934 --> 0:11:02.115 went to vegas for his 21st 0:11:02.155 --> 0:11:05.177 birthday and went walked 0:11:05.197 --> 0:11:06.437 the strip all the way down 0:11:06.739 --> 0:11:07.999 and we were honestly in 0:11:08.058 --> 0:11:09.120 line just to purchase a 0:11:09.139 --> 0:11:10.221 little trinket to say that 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.902 we were there sure and they 0:11:11.922 --> 0:11:12.621 were like hey we're gonna 0:11:12.662 --> 0:11:13.962 film in 10 minutes and then 0:11:13.982 --> 0:11:14.764 they just went down the 0:11:14.803 --> 0:11:15.583 line and said hey do you 0:11:15.604 --> 0:11:16.125 want to be in it do you 0:11:16.144 --> 0:11:17.365 want to be in it and I was like 0:11:18.225 --> 0:11:19.807 I have no problem being in it, 0:11:19.846 --> 0:11:20.927 but my family's here with me. 0:11:20.966 --> 0:11:21.586 I'm not going to make them 0:11:21.626 --> 0:11:23.028 sit outside and they're like, no, 0:11:23.067 --> 0:11:23.748 bring them too. 0:11:23.807 --> 0:11:25.589 And so we were able to just 0:11:25.609 --> 0:11:27.629 be like a random person in 0:11:27.649 --> 0:11:29.450 the background of this episode. 0:11:30.051 --> 0:11:30.951 And when it aired, 0:11:30.990 --> 0:11:32.331 like you could see my feet 0:11:32.410 --> 0:11:34.172 and my clothes and like my 0:11:34.272 --> 0:11:35.312 face a couple of times, 0:11:35.432 --> 0:11:38.114 but it was just more of, you know, 0:11:38.293 --> 0:11:38.974 at that point in time, 0:11:39.014 --> 0:11:39.854 like I had suddenly 0:11:39.913 --> 0:11:41.355 realized that Pawn Stars is 0:11:41.375 --> 0:11:42.514 a hundred percent scripted 0:11:42.514 --> 0:11:42.995 100% of the time. 0:11:43.034 --> 0:11:43.235 Oh yeah. 0:11:43.254 --> 0:11:43.375 Yeah. 0:11:44.696 --> 0:11:45.716 And it broke my heart. 0:11:45.777 --> 0:11:47.076 And I was like, man, I'm like, 0:11:47.417 --> 0:11:49.857 that did not meet my expectations. 0:11:49.898 --> 0:11:50.999 And I was very upset. 0:11:51.318 --> 0:11:52.799 I was on an episode of, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.200 I don't know if you're old 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:54.841 enough to remember this, 0:11:54.860 --> 0:11:56.922 but Howard Stern used to have a TV show. 0:11:56.942 --> 0:11:58.081 Like they used to like video. 0:11:58.142 --> 0:11:58.961 It was one of the first, 0:11:58.981 --> 0:11:59.923 if you want to look at it, 0:12:00.602 --> 0:12:02.124 it was one of the first reality shows. 0:12:02.163 --> 0:12:04.164 And that one not scripted at all. 0:12:04.184 --> 0:12:04.705 Cause they were just like, 0:12:04.745 --> 0:12:05.345 we're just going to put 0:12:05.404 --> 0:12:06.946 cameras in the studio with Howard Stern. 0:12:07.005 --> 0:12:07.546 And people were like, 0:12:07.966 --> 0:12:08.927 but it's a radio show. 0:12:08.947 --> 0:12:09.907 We can't see radio. 0:12:09.927 --> 0:12:10.288 And they were like, 0:12:10.327 --> 0:12:11.067 but we're going to do it. 0:12:11.628 --> 0:12:12.869 So I was an intern at the 0:12:12.908 --> 0:12:13.889 radio station there. 0:12:14.549 --> 0:12:16.951 And the TV show was separate. 0:12:17.011 --> 0:12:18.852 That was E. That was the E channel. 0:12:18.972 --> 0:12:20.094 And the radio station was 0:12:20.634 --> 0:12:21.615 this other company. 0:12:22.975 --> 0:12:24.035 But we knew each other 0:12:24.076 --> 0:12:24.917 because I was an intern. 0:12:24.937 --> 0:12:26.538 Again, I was low man on totem pole. 0:12:26.618 --> 0:12:28.019 But the TV people would recognize us. 0:12:28.058 --> 0:12:28.859 And I'm outside having a 0:12:29.460 --> 0:12:30.441 slice of pizza for lunch. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:32.162 And what they would do is... 0:12:33.139 --> 0:12:33.980 they would get man on the 0:12:34.019 --> 0:12:35.600 street reactions to what, 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:37.400 what they talked about that morning. 0:12:37.461 --> 0:12:39.001 So Howard show was off at 0:12:39.062 --> 0:12:40.361 like 10 AM or something like that. 0:12:40.783 --> 0:12:42.082 And this is noon, but they're, 0:12:42.182 --> 0:12:43.003 what they're trying to do 0:12:43.043 --> 0:12:43.744 is they're trying to get 0:12:43.783 --> 0:12:45.803 some reaction like man on 0:12:45.844 --> 0:12:46.644 the street thing. 0:12:46.663 --> 0:12:46.825 Sure. 0:12:46.845 --> 0:12:46.924 Sure. 0:12:46.945 --> 0:12:47.044 Sure. 0:12:47.065 --> 0:12:47.404 And yeah, 0:12:49.610 --> 0:12:51.231 The topic of the day had to 0:12:51.292 --> 0:12:52.793 do with – I'm trying to 0:12:52.813 --> 0:12:54.394 think how to dance around this. 0:12:56.418 --> 0:12:57.918 My mom was not necessarily proud. 0:12:57.979 --> 0:12:58.919 This is my TV moment. 0:12:59.441 --> 0:13:00.961 But an adult film actress 0:13:00.981 --> 0:13:02.524 had been on the program, 0:13:02.984 --> 0:13:05.287 and she had some of her 0:13:05.326 --> 0:13:07.469 body parts removed. 0:13:07.729 --> 0:13:09.770 It was an ectomy, and I won't say where, 0:13:09.850 --> 0:13:11.273 but it was below the belly button. 0:13:11.913 --> 0:13:14.595 And she had the body parts saved in Lucite, 0:13:14.634 --> 0:13:15.556 in liquid plastic. 0:13:15.635 --> 0:13:16.376 And it was one of the first, 0:13:16.397 --> 0:13:17.618 it was early eBay. 0:13:17.638 --> 0:13:19.719 She was auctioning off these 0:13:19.818 --> 0:13:21.240 parts of her that were removed. 0:13:21.441 --> 0:13:22.581 And like, it was a big debate. 0:13:22.601 --> 0:13:23.642 Can you sell these? 0:13:23.722 --> 0:13:24.883 Is this ethical or whatever? 0:13:25.443 --> 0:13:26.083 And they couldn't get 0:13:26.224 --> 0:13:28.046 anybody on the street to talk about it. 0:13:28.086 --> 0:13:28.986 Everybody was like, I'm not, 0:13:29.427 --> 0:13:30.508 I'm not coming. 0:13:30.648 --> 0:13:32.028 They stopped me and they're like, hey, 0:13:32.089 --> 0:13:33.370 we need a good reaction. 0:13:33.429 --> 0:13:34.951 You're a 21 year old male. 0:13:34.990 --> 0:13:36.172 Like, give us a good whatever. 0:13:36.192 --> 0:13:37.472 They gave me the prompt. 0:13:37.493 --> 0:13:39.095 They're like, so-and-so just had this. 0:13:39.855 --> 0:13:40.820 Would you bid on this? 0:13:40.860 --> 0:13:41.705 And if so, how much? 0:13:41.784 --> 0:13:42.951 And I was like, my reaction was... 0:13:44.099 --> 0:13:44.839 My reaction was, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:46.960 why would I bid on body 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.701 parts that this woman 0:13:48.740 --> 0:13:50.581 doesn't even want of herself? 0:13:53.143 --> 0:13:54.383 And they were like, that's it. 0:13:54.462 --> 0:13:55.263 That's the reaction. 0:13:55.504 --> 0:13:56.724 So I got on TV for that. 0:13:56.903 --> 0:13:59.445 So they were prompted, you know, 0:13:59.544 --> 0:14:01.645 it's pushed. 0:14:02.645 --> 0:14:04.307 Let me ask you this for the home run, 0:14:04.326 --> 0:14:05.226 for the punch, right? 0:14:06.788 --> 0:14:08.609 Reflecting on this headline, right? 0:14:08.649 --> 0:14:10.369 Being a PT is more than hard. 0:14:10.389 --> 0:14:11.629 It's nearly impossible, right? 0:14:12.684 --> 0:14:13.926 what advice would you give 0:14:14.005 --> 0:14:15.206 for people who are hearing 0:14:15.226 --> 0:14:17.969 this that are in school right now? 0:14:18.068 --> 0:14:19.070 They were where you were. 0:14:19.110 --> 0:14:19.850 You mentioned you thought 0:14:19.870 --> 0:14:20.870 about quitting PT school, 0:14:20.890 --> 0:14:22.192 which I'm pretty sure a lot of us did, 0:14:22.292 --> 0:14:23.092 right? 0:14:23.472 --> 0:14:24.293 But what advice would you 0:14:24.333 --> 0:14:26.335 give to aspiring PTs to 0:14:26.456 --> 0:14:28.976 navigate this challenging 0:14:29.037 --> 0:14:30.138 yet rewarding field? 0:14:30.177 --> 0:14:32.720 There is this dichotomy of, yeah, 0:14:32.740 --> 0:14:34.240 it could be terribly challenging, 0:14:34.260 --> 0:14:35.682 but on the other flip side of that, 0:14:35.782 --> 0:14:37.043 it could be rewarding. 0:14:37.102 --> 0:14:37.663 So what advice? 0:14:39.258 --> 0:14:40.138 Yeah, that's a good question. 0:14:40.177 --> 0:14:42.519 I think myself and my wife, 0:14:42.559 --> 0:14:43.139 we had two different 0:14:43.179 --> 0:14:44.740 perspectives going through PT school. 0:14:45.341 --> 0:14:47.101 I was very much focused on 0:14:47.182 --> 0:14:48.841 how do I establish a really good career? 0:14:48.861 --> 0:14:51.783 And PT seemed to me like, hey, 0:14:51.864 --> 0:14:53.784 eight to five, I can see patients, 0:14:53.845 --> 0:14:55.044 make a decent living, 0:14:55.985 --> 0:14:57.245 fulfill that bucket of mind 0:14:57.265 --> 0:14:58.287 where I want to serve and 0:14:58.346 --> 0:15:00.067 help people feel better and 0:15:00.488 --> 0:15:01.828 really build a relationship. 0:15:01.889 --> 0:15:03.649 I think as PTs, 0:15:03.688 --> 0:15:05.110 if everybody did personality tests, 0:15:05.129 --> 0:15:06.270 we're all empathetic and 0:15:06.370 --> 0:15:07.870 feelers at one point in time. 0:15:08.192 --> 0:15:08.471 And so 0:15:09.371 --> 0:15:10.231 being in the healthcare 0:15:10.253 --> 0:15:11.673 field and being able to 0:15:11.712 --> 0:15:12.614 check those boxes 0:15:12.714 --> 0:15:14.354 internally made me feel really good. 0:15:15.534 --> 0:15:16.514 And so when I got out of school, 0:15:16.534 --> 0:15:17.395 like I was able to dive 0:15:17.436 --> 0:15:19.037 into something where you, you know, 0:15:19.136 --> 0:15:20.076 if you could work your butt 0:15:20.096 --> 0:15:21.177 off and see a ton of patients, 0:15:21.217 --> 0:15:22.258 you can make a decent living. 0:15:22.597 --> 0:15:22.798 Sure. 0:15:22.837 --> 0:15:23.097 Right. 0:15:23.359 --> 0:15:25.399 And so that worked for a while. 0:15:25.419 --> 0:15:27.379 And then, you know, 0:15:27.541 --> 0:15:29.140 you get out of PT school and they say, 0:15:29.201 --> 0:15:30.361 okay, like you're good to go. 0:15:31.327 --> 0:15:32.489 you can start making your money. 0:15:32.509 --> 0:15:34.009 Hey, you've got student loans. 0:15:34.049 --> 0:15:34.690 And then by the way, 0:15:34.710 --> 0:15:35.551 you probably want to start 0:15:35.591 --> 0:15:37.211 your life at some point in time soon. 0:15:37.792 --> 0:15:39.352 And so that's when we, you know, 0:15:39.613 --> 0:15:41.234 got married and had a child. 0:15:41.293 --> 0:15:43.255 And then my priorities, I was like, well, 0:15:43.275 --> 0:15:45.496 man, how does, how does PT serve me now? 0:15:46.618 --> 0:15:47.278 And just seeing the 0:15:47.337 --> 0:15:48.558 different struggles that my 0:15:48.599 --> 0:15:49.440 wife and I have had. 0:15:49.519 --> 0:15:50.961 And so, you know, 0:15:50.980 --> 0:15:51.941 like she wants to be a 0:15:51.961 --> 0:15:53.101 therapist and treat patients, 0:15:53.142 --> 0:15:54.722 but if you only make money 0:15:54.802 --> 0:15:55.543 while you're getting, 0:15:55.563 --> 0:15:57.345 or while you're treating, you know, 0:15:57.384 --> 0:15:58.125 you're really having to 0:15:58.184 --> 0:15:59.025 choose between like, 0:15:59.793 --> 0:16:01.234 my, do I spend time with my child? 0:16:01.274 --> 0:16:02.634 Do I work like, 0:16:03.034 --> 0:16:04.495 and everybody's situation is different. 0:16:04.514 --> 0:16:05.355 And this is just our 0:16:05.436 --> 0:16:07.236 particular situation with PT, 0:16:07.277 --> 0:16:08.517 but you know, 0:16:08.756 --> 0:16:10.717 you're billing units in the end, 0:16:10.898 --> 0:16:12.019 like that's what you're doing. 0:16:12.038 --> 0:16:13.379 You're trading your time for 0:16:13.740 --> 0:16:14.460 units of care. 0:16:14.519 --> 0:16:16.400 And so if you're billing units, 0:16:16.421 --> 0:16:17.240 you're able to make money. 0:16:17.282 --> 0:16:18.341 If you're not billing units 0:16:18.442 --> 0:16:19.763 and you're not able to make money. 0:16:19.802 --> 0:16:22.644 And so, um, if I had anybody, you know, 0:16:22.744 --> 0:16:23.965 looking back at this for years, 0:16:24.004 --> 0:16:24.345 I wouldn't 0:16:24.903 --> 0:16:25.804 I would not believe how 0:16:25.904 --> 0:16:26.945 challenging it would be to 0:16:27.004 --> 0:16:28.066 make a decent living, 0:16:28.105 --> 0:16:29.066 but then also having to 0:16:29.125 --> 0:16:30.647 choose where do I spend my time? 0:16:31.587 --> 0:16:32.447 And I think the sooner you 0:16:32.488 --> 0:16:34.048 can ask those questions, the better, 0:16:34.129 --> 0:16:34.849 because then you start 0:16:34.870 --> 0:16:35.870 getting creative on how to 0:16:35.929 --> 0:16:37.750 leverage your time and skills earlier, 0:16:38.410 --> 0:16:39.292 which will allow you to 0:16:39.392 --> 0:16:40.472 still fill those buckets 0:16:40.513 --> 0:16:42.313 that make you feel good and 0:16:42.433 --> 0:16:44.195 really serve me as a human being. 0:16:44.955 --> 0:16:46.615 But then it also starts to be like, okay, 0:16:46.676 --> 0:16:49.597 what does it look like down the road? 0:16:51.024 --> 0:16:51.624 Timeline here. 0:16:51.644 --> 0:16:51.764 I mean, 0:16:51.783 --> 0:16:52.745 it's the same thing we do with our 0:16:52.784 --> 0:16:53.644 finances, right? 0:16:53.664 --> 0:16:55.285 You talk to a financial planner. 0:16:55.346 --> 0:16:57.427 So, um, we've got to look, 0:16:57.667 --> 0:16:58.988 got to look down road a little bit. 0:16:59.687 --> 0:16:59.788 Okay. 0:16:59.807 --> 0:17:01.048 All right. 0:17:01.369 --> 0:17:01.788 Uh, Michael, 0:17:01.808 --> 0:17:02.789 you're ready to play a little game. 0:17:02.809 --> 0:17:05.171 We like to call 60 second PT. 0:17:06.511 --> 0:17:06.951 Oh man. 0:17:07.951 --> 0:17:08.252 Yes. 0:17:08.413 --> 0:17:10.713 I am a hundred percent in 60 seconds. 0:17:10.753 --> 0:17:11.074 Let's go. 0:17:11.528 --> 0:17:11.708 All right. 0:17:11.728 --> 0:17:12.587 I got the ticking clock. 0:17:12.607 --> 0:17:13.608 I'm going to ask you rapid 0:17:13.669 --> 0:17:15.990 fire questions for 60 seconds. 0:17:16.049 --> 0:17:17.210 The faster you answer, 0:17:17.230 --> 0:17:19.111 the more questions you get. 0:17:19.451 --> 0:17:22.451 So your 60 second PT, hang on, 0:17:22.471 --> 0:17:23.511 let me get this. 0:17:24.173 --> 0:17:25.373 Your 60 second P Michael 0:17:25.393 --> 0:17:27.054 Derry starts right now. 0:17:28.054 --> 0:17:28.134 Uh, 0:17:28.213 --> 0:17:29.654 what's your favorite part of being a 0:17:29.714 --> 0:17:30.555 physical therapist? 0:17:32.175 --> 0:17:33.415 The relationship building. 0:17:34.236 --> 0:17:35.517 Summarize physical therapy 0:17:35.596 --> 0:17:36.957 in just three words. 0:17:38.057 --> 0:17:38.317 Hmm. 0:17:39.727 --> 0:17:41.826 Rewarding, challenging, and fun. 0:17:42.468 --> 0:17:42.728 All right. 0:17:42.748 --> 0:17:43.627 Talking about challenging, 0:17:43.647 --> 0:17:44.748 what's the most challenging 0:17:44.788 --> 0:17:45.407 part of your job? 0:17:47.469 --> 0:17:48.788 Choosing where to spend my time. 0:17:49.209 --> 0:17:50.449 Where's the most rewarding 0:17:50.509 --> 0:17:51.189 part of your job? 0:17:54.089 --> 0:17:56.069 Seeing people improve. 0:17:57.090 --> 0:17:58.230 What's one myth about 0:17:58.290 --> 0:17:59.411 physical therapy that you 0:17:59.510 --> 0:18:00.230 often encounter? 0:18:02.392 --> 0:18:03.132 Oh, man. 0:18:03.152 --> 0:18:04.672 I love that question. 0:18:06.333 --> 0:18:08.192 We can only help after surgery. 0:18:09.243 --> 0:18:11.684 What's a common mistake new grad PTs make? 0:18:13.085 --> 0:18:15.145 Oh my gosh, not thinking down the road. 0:18:15.945 --> 0:18:17.666 What's your secret sauce for 0:18:17.747 --> 0:18:22.008 connecting with patients? 0:18:22.087 --> 0:18:23.909 You've got to leverage your 0:18:23.969 --> 0:18:25.730 empathy and learn how to 0:18:25.769 --> 0:18:26.470 grow those skills. 0:18:26.869 --> 0:18:27.950 Yeah. 0:18:28.050 --> 0:18:29.490 What's one habit that has 0:18:29.550 --> 0:18:31.971 contributed most to your success? 0:18:34.613 --> 0:18:36.093 Being able to get work done 0:18:36.232 --> 0:18:37.273 and have a strong work ethic. 0:18:38.393 --> 0:18:39.413 And what's a piece of advice 0:18:39.433 --> 0:18:40.434 you wish you'd been given 0:18:40.454 --> 0:18:41.434 at the start of your career? 0:18:43.096 --> 0:18:44.297 It's going to be harder than it looks. 0:18:44.637 --> 0:18:45.218 There you go. 0:18:45.478 --> 0:18:46.098 All right, Michael Daria, 0:18:46.118 --> 0:18:46.919 you're off the hot seat. 0:18:46.939 --> 0:18:49.421 That is your 60 second PT. 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.041 I made that sound doom and 0:18:51.082 --> 0:18:52.643 gloom at some points, but man, 0:18:54.003 --> 0:18:55.905 I guess I just focused on the, uh, the, 0:18:56.165 --> 0:18:56.967 the things that are most 0:18:57.106 --> 0:18:58.428 upfront in my mind and the challenges. 0:18:58.928 --> 0:18:59.147 Sure. 0:18:59.167 --> 0:18:59.567 All right. 0:18:59.607 --> 0:19:00.588 Last thing we do on the show. 0:19:00.648 --> 0:19:01.250 Usually I'll give you your 0:19:01.269 --> 0:19:02.830 opportunity to take your parting shots. 0:19:04.682 --> 0:19:06.922 this is the parting shot mic 0:19:06.961 --> 0:19:08.423 drop moment statement 0:19:08.803 --> 0:19:09.762 what's the parting shot 0:19:09.782 --> 0:19:10.363 you'd want to leave with 0:19:10.383 --> 0:19:14.523 people you know as a 0:19:14.564 --> 0:19:15.423 physical therapist there's 0:19:15.463 --> 0:19:16.804 a lot of wonderful things 0:19:16.864 --> 0:19:18.204 about what we do very 0:19:18.265 --> 0:19:20.285 privileged very rewarding 0:19:20.345 --> 0:19:21.865 career we're also very 0:19:21.924 --> 0:19:23.185 challenged in many ways and 0:19:23.246 --> 0:19:24.246 if you talked to people 0:19:24.286 --> 0:19:24.905 that looked at us 0:19:25.006 --> 0:19:25.986 objectively they would 0:19:26.006 --> 0:19:27.067 think we're crazy for 0:19:27.086 --> 0:19:27.967 getting in our field 0:19:28.747 --> 0:19:31.267 absolutely nutso the roi 0:19:31.586 --> 0:19:32.788 it's it's really hard to 0:19:32.827 --> 0:19:33.847 look at that sometimes 0:19:34.842 --> 0:19:37.044 Um, but if you're talking for something, 0:19:37.263 --> 0:19:37.544 you know, 0:19:37.765 --> 0:19:38.565 when you think about other 0:19:38.625 --> 0:19:39.465 careers out there and I've 0:19:39.486 --> 0:19:40.626 been able to have an impact 0:19:40.666 --> 0:19:41.728 on someone's life and health, 0:19:42.749 --> 0:19:43.750 we're right there. 0:19:43.890 --> 0:19:44.170 I mean, 0:19:44.349 --> 0:19:45.631 everything coming down the road 0:19:45.691 --> 0:19:47.271 from where does PT line, 0:19:47.291 --> 0:19:48.153 the healthcare system, 0:19:48.212 --> 0:19:49.094 getting us involved with 0:19:49.114 --> 0:19:50.575 primary cares to see how we 0:19:50.714 --> 0:19:51.875 are interacting in the 0:19:51.915 --> 0:19:53.176 military and all of that 0:19:53.196 --> 0:19:54.538 stuff that's going to come downstream. 0:19:54.538 --> 0:19:57.661 100% we're at the frontline 0:19:57.701 --> 0:19:58.402 and treating people. 0:19:58.481 --> 0:20:00.323 So absolutely, 0:20:01.084 --> 0:20:02.365 absolutely a great place to be. 0:20:03.990 --> 0:20:05.492 Michael, appreciate the time and insight. 0:20:05.512 --> 0:20:06.915 The best conversations 0:20:06.955 --> 0:20:07.758 happen at happy hour. 0:20:07.778 --> 0:20:08.539 Thanks for coming to ours. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:09.823 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:20:10.124 --> 0:20:10.664 My pleasure. 0:20:11.266 --> 0:20:11.748 Perfect. 0:20:11.788 --> 0:20:12.710 That is all we need.