March 27, 2026

The Real Reason Your Website Isn’t Bringing Patients

The Real Reason Your Website Isn’t Bringing Patients
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Most PT clinic owners assume growth comes from referrals—until those referrals slow down.

In this episode, Lex Lancaster breaks down how patients actually find clinics today and why most PT websites fail to convert visitors into patients. This conversation focuses on practical, actionable strategies clinic owners can use immediately.


Key Takeaways:

• SEO is about getting found by the right patients, not more traffic

• Your website must clearly answer: who you help, what you do, how, and where

• Generalist messaging kills conversions—specificity wins

• Organic traffic builds long-term patient flow without ongoing ad spend

• SEO is a 6–18 month play, not a quick fix

• Content = answering real patient questions consistently

• If your website doesn’t convert, ads will only waste money


Why This Matters

If your clinic relies only on referrals, you’re exposed. SEO and content create a second, scalable pipeline of patients that works even when referrals slow down.


Guest Links

Website: https://www.lexlancaster.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexlancaster_


Sponsors

SaRA Health — Automates patient engagement and RTM

EMPOWER EMR — Faster workflows built for PTs

U.S. Physical Therapy — Career growth and clinic support

Flagler Health - https://www.flaglerhealth.io/


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<p>This episode is part of the <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a>, where physical therapists and clinic owners learn how to get more patients, improve operations, and grow their clinic without relying only on referrals.</p>

<p>Looking for more episodes? Explore the full <a href="/physical-therapy-business-podcast">Physical Therapy Business Podcast</a> for real-world strategies on physical therapy marketing, patient acquisition, and clinic growth.</p>

Transcript
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Welcome to another riveting episode in the

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series, the MBA for the DPT.

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Do you want to say thanks for our

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friends at Flagler Health using AI to

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engage patients,

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automate RTM and drive ninety nine percent

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clean claims.

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You actually get paid for the care you

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deliver.

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It's sort of why you did it.

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More adherence, fewer denials.

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fascial revenue.

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Most clinic owners think growth comes from

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referrals until referrals slow down.

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Today's guest helps health and wellness

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businesses solve a problem most don't

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realize they have until they have it.

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And that's being invisible online.

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She's taken her experience as a physical

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therapist and clinic owner and translated

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it into something most clinicians struggle

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to understand and

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but desperately need how patients actually

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find you in twenty twenty six and beyond.

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She doesn't just talk about things like

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SEO.

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She builds the systems that turn websites

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into consistent lead generators instead of

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just digital brochures.

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And she's here to explain why more traffic

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isn't necessarily the answer.

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Better structure is.

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Please welcome Lex Lancaster to the show,

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to the class.

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Professor Lancaster is what we'll be

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calling you today.

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Wow, that's so official.

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What an intro.

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Thank you so much.

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I'm so excited to be here.

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So this isn't on the official script.

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We're going off script immediately because

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we've known each other before.

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I feel like what you do and what

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I do is similar, not the same, right?

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A lot of times it's a pain maybe

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a business owner doesn't know they have

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until they're neck deep in it.

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Where do you start that conversation?

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Because most of the people listening are

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going to be business owners,

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not the people who are sort of like

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yourself or myself,

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which is building the solutions.

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So where do you start that conversation?

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Because they might be like,

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I sort of know I need her,

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but don't know where to start.

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So how do you start the conversation?

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Yeah,

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that's a really great question because I

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get folks at all stages of business.

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So for me, I will tell you that,

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you know,

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when I first started my business,

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it was a lot of,

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I would tell you, yes,

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of course you need a website.

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And at that point in time,

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I did not have the evidence that I

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now have for, of course,

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you need a website because it does this

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thing.

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And I have seen it do this thing

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multiple times for hundreds and hundreds,

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maybe even thousands of people at this

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point.

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So for me, when I'm like,

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do you actually need to work with me?

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I will always tell people you can figure

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out anything you want to figure out

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anywhere, anytime.

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We all know there's YouTube University,

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right?

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And for me,

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it's I will say that I am the

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systems integrator.

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So oftentimes in my field of work,

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people specialize in one thing.

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They specialize in the email side.

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They specialize in the website.

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They specialize in the SEO.

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They specialize in the ads.

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The problem is that all of those things

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are working together all of the time.

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So if you are relying on word of

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mouth marketing,

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I'm going to tell you that's the gold

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standard.

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Keep going.

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I love it.

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Yes.

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And then the next step needs to be

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how else are we having revenue coming in

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and new patients coming in without having

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you go do a workshop every week?

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So when we look at, you know,

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do you need me?

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I will say yes.

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I never will tell someone they absolutely

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need me.

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I actually push people off of calls to

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need me.

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It's more or less,

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are you ready to have someone have a

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second set of eyes,

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look at your processes,

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look at your systems,

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look at what's going on on your website,

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your ads, your SEO,

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and then just working with someone that

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can integrate all of the pieces rather

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than hiring one person for one piece.

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And then you need to hire another person

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for another piece.

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And to be blatantly honest with you,

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Jimmy, we've all seen it.

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In PT, we have clients,

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we have patients that just trust us.

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hey, you know what, Jimmy,

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you told me this thing and I have

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so much trust in you.

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Let's do it.

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When it comes to this field,

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I will tell you that there are so

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many things that are really hard to trust.

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And clients will come to me and just

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be like,

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I just don't know who to trust.

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I don't know what to do because this

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is stuff I don't understand.

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And sometimes they've been,

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I use the word bamboozled,

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thanks to Heather McMahon,

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the comedian in the past.

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And they just don't know what to do.

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And for me,

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I really pride myself on giving people

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every single option so that they can then

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make a decision.

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Good decision.

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Yeah.

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I've said this to people before.

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You don't need to be the world's expert

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on how to solve a problem.

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I think you need to be competent to

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do it.

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And you need to be the person someone

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knows.

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Yeah.

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This is why when I turn to my

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buddy who's lived in my hometown for a

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million years and I say, hey man,

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this type of lawyer, who do you got?

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And he's like, one of these two,

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that's it, right?

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But now that's word of mouth.

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You would say that's word of mouth.

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He's earned it.

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You can facilitate word of mouth several,

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many different ways.

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And this is where we bring you in.

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Now we get to tactics.

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First of all,

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I like to just take the obvious and

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I'm using air quotes.

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and make sure it's stunningly obvious.

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So for the clinic owners who are like,

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okay,

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I'm wading into this little river here,

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who hears SEO and immediately is like,

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yeah, I know what that, I got,

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I understand that.

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Let's go basic to the basic.

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What is SEO really?

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Yeah.

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So SEO, search engine optimization,

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it basically means getting found on Google

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from,

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by your ideal client when they search for

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the service that you provide or the

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problem that you solve.

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Folks often forget that part.

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And that is important because more traffic

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does not mean more customers unless they

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are your actual ideal client.

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But I want more.

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But here's the problem, right?

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Because more might cost me more.

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So if it's more of the wrong person

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who's never going to use me,

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it does not care.

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That feels like wasted effort, time,

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and money.

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So SEO at the heart of it,

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how I market it and how it exists

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in the world, it's free.

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So this is essentially free traffic.

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So if we compare it to something like

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Google ads,

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you're not spending money to get these

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leads.

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However,

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let's just think about the person who

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comes in your clinic.

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who's not your ideal client it costs a

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lot exactly like you just said

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energetically to work with someone that

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you don't want to work with so just

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getting in front of everybody doesn't

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matter we don't want to just get in

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front of everybody we want to get in

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front of the person that you like to

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help so if you're the acl specialist we're

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going to get you in front of folks

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who have you know they want that acl

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prevention side they want to return to

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sport after acl surgery right and

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Correct.

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You've said you've talked people out of

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working with you before.

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I wind up talking more people out of

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working with me because I'd rather get to

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the know as quick as possible.

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Because if I convince someone,

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if I talk them into it,

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but I know from the start it's probably

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not a good fit,

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they're not going to follow through,

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whatever the issue is,

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I'd rather have that person walking

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around, word of mouth, saying,

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No, he knew his stuff.

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She knew her stuff.

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And I just wasn't a good fit.

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But you might be,

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so you should go talk to him.

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Or I can go deeper.

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No, it's not going to work.

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It doesn't work.

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And I've burned that bridge.

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I don't know.

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I also just feel morally bad about it

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if you know it's not a good fit.

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I think we can talk about this clinically

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or business-wise.

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Clinically, we say refer out.

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That's the thing we're taught.

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I think business should be the same way.

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If you don't think you're a great fit

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and you know someone who would be a

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better fit...

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I don't know.

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My internal moral obligation says refer

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out.

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Absolutely.

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It's like someone who comes to me.

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I only work on the Squarespace website

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platform.

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I am proficient.

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I'm fast.

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And that is where I work.

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And if someone comes to me from a

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WordPress website,

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I am very happy to provide consulting.

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I will give you the SEO.

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I will consult with you.

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However, the implementation side...

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refer out.

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So I have some people who are like,

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hey, Lex, I trust your wisdom.

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I want to know what you have to

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say about my website,

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but I'm on WordPress.

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What can we do?

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For me, I will do the consulting side.

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And then if they need a referral for

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a WordPress folk who can implement said

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recommendations for me,

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I can refer to them.

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It's an energetic exchange all the time.

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And for me to take on some type

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of work that is not what I'm proficient

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in, one,

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I don't feel good about charging you

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money.

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when I'm not proficient and fast at that

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thing.

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And it doesn't give me joy to do

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that either.

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So yes,

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we're referring out as much as possible

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whenever needed.

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All right.

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So how does SEO actually work?

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Now that we understand what it is,

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what it isn't,

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how does it actually work in a way

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also that leads to the right patients

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walking through the right door at the

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right time?

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Yeah.

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So this is where we talk about the

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integration side, right?

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So regardless, at any point in time,

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your website needs to be what I say,

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working for you.

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If your website is speaking to someone

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who's not your ideal client,

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I don't care how much effort you put

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into SEO,

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you're going to bring people to your

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website and then they're likely not going

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to become patients or you're going to get

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patients that are not actually who you

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want to work with.

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so for seo we are bringing in traffic

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folks who are googling anything i'm

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talking about problems or solutions so

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folks are saying knee pain with running or

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they're searching for physical therapy

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those are two different people don't

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forget one person knows that they need

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physical therapy and they're ready to buy

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the other person is saying hey you know

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i have this problem google i am looking

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to solve it what is the solution and

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then obviously we're looking to pitch that

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solution with content that we're creating

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on our website

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But SEO goes back to our website structure

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and our website messaging, right?

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Who are we talking to?

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What are we good at?

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What are we not good at?

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Who are we for?

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Which then, let's go back even further,

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goes back to our ideal client, right?

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Who are we actually wanting to work with?

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What problems do they have?

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What problems do we actually want to

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solve?

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What questions do we actually want to

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answer?

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And then take one more step back, right?

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That goes back to our values, right?

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and who we are as a human.

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All of that stuff leads to folks finding

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you on Google.

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Because when someone searches something on

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Google,

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the whole point of SEO is for you

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to come up.

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period.

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And folks will say like,

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you have to be number one.

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You have to be number one.

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I actually disagree.

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I'm a very competitive person.

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I'm a very, very competitive person.

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I want people to be number one,

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but there is a lot of evidence to

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suggest that even if you are number two

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or number three,

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people will open up three different

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websites at one time and they will look

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at all of your websites and compare them

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and say,

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who is the best fit for me?

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And

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That's where I'm, I go back again,

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your website needs to do that work for

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you.

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And for physical therapists, you know,

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there's a common practice where PTs will

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say, especially in the cash-based realm,

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it's like, call us to book.

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Thing is, or let's boil it back down,

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people want to solve their problem when

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they're on your website.

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They want to check the box, right?

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They want to do something that's solving

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their problem when they get there.

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So if it's very difficult to solve their

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problem when they get to your website,

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again, back to that website structure,

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your website has to be working for you.

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They're likely not going to convert,

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if you will say,

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because we want to talk about conversions.

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They're likely not going to convert

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because it's just difficult.

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Or let's just say you're not the person

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for them.

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And I think that's a beautiful thing.

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It's a beautiful thing to get more traffic

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to your website.

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Be position one, two, three.

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Yes, one is the best.

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I won't disagree with that.

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But if you're two and three,

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you will still get people with you.

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Yes,

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because people will open up different

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websites.

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There are three pelvic health providers

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who are always going to show up in

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the same search.

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They're going to choose the one that

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speaks to them.

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And that's your opportunity.

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Your website is your opportunity to be the

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person for who's searching.

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They always say the guy.

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If I want to have a podcast introduction,

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if I want someone to host my podcast,

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if I'm not going to do it myself,

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I'm going to ask Jimmy.

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Jimmy's the guy.

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You need to be the guy,

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if you will, proverbially,

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for the person that you want to work

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with.

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You've said that having a website and a

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Google business profile is like the floor,

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but it's not enough.

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I mean, you have to have it.

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You haven't filled that out.

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You skipped name,

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address on the college application, right?

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Yes, yes.

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So where do clinics, after they,

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of course, now listen to this,

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they have a website,

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they've filled out the business Google

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profile,

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where are clinics going wrong next?

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What are the next simple steps that they

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are skipping over and just simply not

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doing?

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Jimmy,

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that's a loaded question and I love it.

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It's one of my favorite questions to ask

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or answer, I should say, answer.

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I love when people ask it.

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There are two things that I see folks,

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I don't want to say miss,

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but there's unaware, right?

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The first thing is a website structure.

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I think that when you open up your

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practice, guilty as charged,

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guilty as charged,

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you open up your practice, you say,

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my website needs to have a homepage,

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about page, a service page,

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a contact page.

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Love that for you.

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That's where we're going to start.

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The problem is that that does not give

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Google enough information to understand

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your business.

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So we actually I will speak of Google

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like the nervous system.

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It's always living in the dark.

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The brain is always living in the dark.

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And the only information that Google knows

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is the information that you feed it.

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So, again,

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just like the brain and the nervous

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system,

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we have to give it information in order

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for it to understand and then have an

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output.

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so when it comes to our website we

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have to give it more information so if

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we think about just having a generic

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service pages service page that's not

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enough to give google an idea of what

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we actually do right what do you do

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you do physical therapy do you do pelvic

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health physical therapy are you a

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concussion specialist what do you offer

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right so the first part is structure if

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you have a basic website home about

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services contact the next step is going to

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be to develop specific service pages what

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services do you actually offer

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One page per service.

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Is that your suggestion?

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Yeah.

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One page per service.

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Yes, exactly.

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So it's like, you know,

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we have physical therapy.

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Maybe we have concussion management.

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If we're a pelvic health provider,

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it's pelvic health, physical therapy,

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postpartum PT, pregnancy,

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physical therapy like that,

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because that is how Google is going to

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understand your business.

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Now, another step is going to be content.

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And we say content.

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Yes, of course,

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your website pages are content.

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However,

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the next piece is going to be the

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blog.

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We need to start blogging because people

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will say blogging is dead.

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Don't blog.

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No one's reading blogs.

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That is absolutely not true.

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We have to blog because one,

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Google is definitely going to take that

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into account.

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If you're going to be an expert and

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you want to say that you're an expert

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at treating a specific thing,

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then when I go to your website,

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prove that to me.

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Show me, don't tell me.

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Exactly.

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And when Google looks at your website,

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show me,

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don't tell me is exactly what Google says.

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I always use the phrase of,

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if you talk about everything,

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you're going to be an expert in nothing.

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And that goes for Google and your ideal

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client.

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So let's just say,

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picture we have a blog and a blog

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page.

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If our blog mentions we have concussion

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blogs and we have a hundred concussion

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blogs, okay,

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we add a new service or we decide

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we're going to talk one day about

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pediatric pelvic floor physical therapy.

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Google's going to say,

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who the heck are you to talk about

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that?

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You've been talking about concussion for

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the last three years.

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Right.

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So I'm not saying that you can't add

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a new service or you can't talk about

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multiple things.

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But when you think about Google,

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you have to think about it like the

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brain and the nervous system.

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The only information it knows is the

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information that you give it.

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So understand that you are starting at

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ground zero always when you're talking

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about a new topic.

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So if you're the ACL specialist,

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talk about ACLs, talk, talk, talk, talk,

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talk.

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And these platforms outside of Google or

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social platforms,

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they are constantly trying to figure out

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who to set you up with to have

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a good first date.

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Like that's sort of their jobs.

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When people rage against the algorithm,

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it's sort of showing you, well,

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you're not,

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you don't understand why it exists.

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It's not to prevent,

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it's not to cause you to lose.

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In fact,

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if your content is going to keep someone

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on that platform or be a good result,

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a search result for them,

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they want to bring you to the top.

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So you can get frustrated at the algorithm

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and say,

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I'm just not playing the game well.

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But understanding what game you're playing

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and being as clear,

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how many different ways can you show

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Google with words, with pictures,

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with videos, with profiles?

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What are the different things that you can

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do to be the answer and not have

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to game the system?

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yes exactly it's all about expertise so

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you know in in google it's expertise

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authority and trust right and that

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expertise part is going to be bringing in

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like i'm a physical therapist and i'm

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talking about things that physical

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therapists know about so at the end of

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the day we have to demonstrate that we

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have the expertise that we're saying that

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we have and i

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I'm sure you can speak to this as

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well, Jimmy.

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It's like when I go to a new

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provider's website,

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regardless of what I'm searching for,

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I will always look to see what are

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they talking about on their website.

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If I'm going to someone for,

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I'll just say, you know,

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any sort of pelvic concern, pelvic pain,

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let's just say,

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but they don't talk anything about pelvic

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pain on their website.

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The first question in my mind,

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there's a cognitive dissonance there.

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I'm going to say,

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do they actually know how to treat me?

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Do they actually know how to help me?

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and that to me right we need to

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make sure we're gaining trust when folks

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come to our website and i also want

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to say that the opposite is actually the

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same right if i don't want to treat

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pelvic pain this was something that a

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couple i remember a woman on a call

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was like oh my god i don't have

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to talk about it if i don't want

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to treat it if you don't want to

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treat pelvic pain then don't talk about it

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period

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You don't have to talk about everything.

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As a PT,

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you come out of school and you're like,

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well, I must treat every single joint.

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I must do everything.

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You don't have to do everything.

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You don't have to be a generalist.

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Well, you can ask someone,

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what's a schedule that when you walk in

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and crack open the laptop in the morning,

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if you had a tail,

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who would it be wagging for?

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Yes.

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Okay,

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you might not be treating a hundred

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percent of that now, but in six months,

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what are we doing to move towards that?

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The answer is everything we're talking

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about.

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Yeah.

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And that's exactly what I say in all

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of my courses and anything I ever present.

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I always go to my ideal client exercise

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and I say, when you're filling this out,

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I need you to think about the patient.

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Five PM on a Friday night,

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you could be doing anything else in the

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world,

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but you're treating this person and you

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love it.

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Having the time of your life.

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Who is that person?

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Figure that out and work backwards.

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Yes, you have to.

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We have to.

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We have to, right?

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Think from their perspective.

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So you and I probably spend an inordinate

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amount of time on websites or on social

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platforms.

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So we look at things differently,

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probably.

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We're more like the matrix.

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We can look at the ones and zeros

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and we're like, got it.

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I'm seeing what you're doing and we can

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see through it.

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I see what people are trying to do

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on social posts or videos.

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And when you start with I, I, I...

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i hear nails on chalkboard and i'm saying

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talk about them them them right probably

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similar to you with website which is this

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is a brag page or this is a

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this is a place for you to you

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know hang all your degrees or show off

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all your letters but a person reading that

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that might be your ideal anything customer

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client patient anybody

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does not is not going to spend the

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time burning calories to decipher that so

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i know it feels good to share that

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if you need to put it on your

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website do it bury it somewhere please in

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the corner right that's a for you thing

00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:07.840
so let's go to tactical i got a

00:20:07.881 --> 00:20:09.541
buddy who's a mechanic when i say my

00:20:09.582 --> 00:20:11.323
car is not right he checks the same

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three to five things he just he's like

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it's it's usually one of these three to

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five and if it's past that it's a

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zebra not a horse what are the first

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three

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five things that you're looking at?

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Where do your eyes go?

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I want to know where do your eyes

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dart on a website?

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Yeah.

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So I will say it's different per pages.

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So I'm going to give you a couple

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different options here.

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So when I look at the homepage,

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I need to make sure that you are

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saying who you help, what you actually do,

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how you do it,

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and where you do it.

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And the where part is really important.

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I don't want people to come to your

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website and be like, well,

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is this person in Chicago or is this

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person in Florida?

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It's very tough to go to a website

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and then not know where someone is.

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So those are the immediate things that I

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look at, Jimmy.

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That is point yes.

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The other thing that I look at is,

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do you actually speak to the person who

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you want to work with?

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And in that regard, I'm like,

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what actually matters to them?

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You just said it, them, them, them.

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I know that evidence-based care,

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it's very important.

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I get it.

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I know.

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But if you lead with,

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we provide evidence-based care.

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Mm-hmm.

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They just want their knee to feel better.

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They don't care how you do it.

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That's how we talk about it as providers.

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That's like saying a restaurant is like

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all of our food is okay by the

00:21:34.770 --> 00:21:37.373
FDA.

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Are there things that aren't?

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Those are table stakes and we should never

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mention those things.

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At least not in the first five hundred

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words.

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No, absolutely not.

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And not on the homepage.

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The homepage is very much so your most

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visited page.

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And then typically it's the about page.

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And so if we're looking at the homepage,

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we need to have those specific things on

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there.

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And then laying out the difference that

00:22:02.751 --> 00:22:03.972
you can make for this person,

00:22:04.012 --> 00:22:06.595
because don't forget, position one, two,

00:22:06.615 --> 00:22:08.615
three, they're opening up three websites.

00:22:09.587 --> 00:22:10.407
At the same time,

00:22:10.489 --> 00:22:12.128
they're comparing you and your

00:22:12.169 --> 00:22:12.849
competition.

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You need to lead from a place of

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your values so that you attract people

00:22:18.833 --> 00:22:22.154
that also possess likely similar values,

00:22:22.775 --> 00:22:23.035
right?

00:22:23.494 --> 00:22:25.135
And how are you going to do that?

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It's yes, through your website copy,

00:22:26.396 --> 00:22:28.278
but you're going to talk about the things

00:22:28.298 --> 00:22:29.679
that you value in a way that that

00:22:29.719 --> 00:22:31.359
person's going to understand so that they

00:22:31.420 --> 00:22:34.161
then choose you or they don't choose you,

00:22:34.401 --> 00:22:34.601
right?

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Equally important.

00:22:36.001 --> 00:22:37.522
So the first thing is that homepage and

00:22:37.542 --> 00:22:39.344
does it actually speak to the person?

00:22:39.403 --> 00:22:40.704
The next thing I look at is the

00:22:40.724 --> 00:22:41.924
website structure that I've mentioned.

00:22:42.204 --> 00:22:44.487
Home about services contact is not enough

00:22:44.646 --> 00:22:44.906
ever.

00:22:44.946 --> 00:22:47.107
We need to have home about services.

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Yes,

00:22:47.407 --> 00:22:49.028
have an all services page that I can

00:22:49.068 --> 00:22:51.049
click on and just see what do you

00:22:51.089 --> 00:22:52.510
actually offer on one page,

00:22:52.530 --> 00:22:54.471
but then have separate pages for each

00:22:54.511 --> 00:22:55.413
service that you offer.

00:22:55.752 --> 00:22:57.294
That is important for Google,

00:22:57.334 --> 00:22:59.355
but also it's important for your clients.

00:22:59.595 --> 00:22:59.714
Yeah.

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The messaging that you have on a pelvic

00:23:01.836 --> 00:23:03.557
health page is going to be different than

00:23:03.576 --> 00:23:05.377
an orthopedic page, right?

00:23:05.698 --> 00:23:07.558
That should make sense to everyone out

00:23:07.578 --> 00:23:07.959
there, right?

00:23:08.999 --> 00:23:10.220
And then honestly,

00:23:10.339 --> 00:23:11.800
I will say at this point in time,

00:23:12.901 --> 00:23:17.682
backstory, I know with data,

00:23:17.803 --> 00:23:19.324
when I first started doing SEO,

00:23:19.443 --> 00:23:19.824
I was like,

00:23:19.963 --> 00:23:21.484
I'm going to prove that you can rank

00:23:21.545 --> 00:23:23.145
on Google without having a blog.

00:23:23.806 --> 00:23:24.386
I proved it.

00:23:24.666 --> 00:23:25.207
I did it.

00:23:25.468 --> 00:23:26.407
You didn't need a block.

00:23:26.667 --> 00:23:27.308
I proved that.

00:23:27.489 --> 00:23:27.990
However,

00:23:28.150 --> 00:23:29.330
I will tell you that I am the

00:23:29.351 --> 00:23:31.071
most bang for your buck type of person.

00:23:31.471 --> 00:23:33.653
And I want you to do what I

00:23:33.673 --> 00:23:36.596
call the maximized effort approach,

00:23:36.997 --> 00:23:39.259
but also in the time that you have.

00:23:39.298 --> 00:23:41.520
Because I approach all of my content,

00:23:41.540 --> 00:23:42.121
my teaching,

00:23:42.461 --> 00:23:44.542
as if you're not working with a marketing

00:23:44.563 --> 00:23:44.823
team.

00:23:45.324 --> 00:23:45.703
It's you.

00:23:46.003 --> 00:23:46.964
It's you, the clinic owner.

00:23:47.204 --> 00:23:48.807
Maybe you have an admin, whatever.

00:23:49.086 --> 00:23:50.327
We don't have a bazillion hours to do

00:23:50.367 --> 00:23:50.728
this stuff.

00:23:50.768 --> 00:23:50.887
So

00:23:51.969 --> 00:23:53.089
I will tell you the last thing I

00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:54.950
look at is do you have a blog

00:23:55.009 --> 00:23:56.711
and are you writing content?

00:23:56.810 --> 00:23:58.652
Are you writing content consistently?

00:23:59.172 --> 00:24:00.553
Are you updating Google?

00:24:00.613 --> 00:24:02.593
Don't forget, Google likes to be updated.

00:24:02.653 --> 00:24:04.134
So if Google's living in the dark,

00:24:04.233 --> 00:24:04.993
you have to kind of,

00:24:05.114 --> 00:24:06.295
I don't want to use the word poke.

00:24:06.335 --> 00:24:07.234
I don't love that word,

00:24:07.295 --> 00:24:09.236
but we have to poke Google and say,

00:24:09.276 --> 00:24:10.096
hey, still here.

00:24:10.256 --> 00:24:11.196
Hey, still here.

00:24:11.497 --> 00:24:12.396
Still writing content,

00:24:12.416 --> 00:24:13.518
still solving problems,

00:24:13.538 --> 00:24:14.998
still helping people that I want to help.

00:24:15.479 --> 00:24:17.419
And by doing, by writing blog posts,

00:24:17.459 --> 00:24:18.460
you are doing that.

00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:19.619
So the last thing is,

00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:21.260
are you creating content?

00:24:21.820 --> 00:24:22.561
And if you're not,

00:24:22.863 --> 00:24:25.086
that is one of the lowest hanging fruits

00:24:26.188 --> 00:24:26.749
to get started.

00:24:27.673 --> 00:24:29.515
It takes effort and I might be afraid

00:24:30.215 --> 00:24:31.396
when I turn that camera on or open

00:24:31.416 --> 00:24:32.017
that phone.

00:24:32.637 --> 00:24:33.117
It's fear.

00:24:33.137 --> 00:24:34.298
We talk about this often.

00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:35.980
It's not the,

00:24:36.060 --> 00:24:37.461
what camera should I have or what

00:24:37.521 --> 00:24:37.981
microphone?

00:24:38.001 --> 00:24:38.722
Those are nice.

00:24:38.803 --> 00:24:39.502
Those are nice.

00:24:40.443 --> 00:24:41.605
I get on calls with people and they're

00:24:41.625 --> 00:24:43.826
like, hey, website, social, whatever,

00:24:43.886 --> 00:24:45.268
attention.

00:24:45.347 --> 00:24:46.449
I tell people I work in your attention

00:24:46.489 --> 00:24:48.691
department and I go, wrong question.

00:24:49.171 --> 00:24:50.432
When I help people launch podcasts or

00:24:50.451 --> 00:24:52.272
YouTube channels, I say,

00:24:52.554 --> 00:24:54.694
whatever equipment you have right now,

00:24:54.775 --> 00:24:56.256
it just needs to be above a floor.

00:24:57.144 --> 00:24:58.204
Like the microphone you're using,

00:24:58.266 --> 00:24:59.885
I'm using probably a little overkill,

00:24:59.905 --> 00:25:00.807
but we do this a lot.

00:25:01.307 --> 00:25:03.067
You can get away with a forty five

00:25:03.087 --> 00:25:04.548
dollar microphone if it's OK.

00:25:05.088 --> 00:25:06.229
And the laptop camera.

00:25:06.409 --> 00:25:08.450
I say buy nothing until you prove to

00:25:08.529 --> 00:25:09.671
yourself, not me,

00:25:10.310 --> 00:25:12.332
that you're going to do ten of these

00:25:12.412 --> 00:25:13.392
or twenty of these.

00:25:13.612 --> 00:25:14.893
And then if you're like, well,

00:25:14.952 --> 00:25:16.794
now I want to get ten percent better

00:25:17.013 --> 00:25:17.273
mics,

00:25:17.394 --> 00:25:18.674
a mic or a camera might make you

00:25:19.315 --> 00:25:21.355
five to seven to ten percent better.

00:25:22.236 --> 00:25:23.778
You showing up, turning it on,

00:25:24.157 --> 00:25:26.279
recording it, and then also sharing it.

00:25:26.980 --> 00:25:28.000
That's going to get you to nine.

00:25:28.020 --> 00:25:30.584
That's the ninety percent of the of the

00:25:30.644 --> 00:25:30.903
effort.

00:25:31.773 --> 00:25:32.855
And honestly, Jimmy,

00:25:33.335 --> 00:25:35.537
what I see as being a difficult thing

00:25:35.557 --> 00:25:37.678
in SEO is that it's a time game.

00:25:38.137 --> 00:25:39.919
So when you do the work,

00:25:40.199 --> 00:25:42.141
you do not get immediate ROI.

00:25:42.260 --> 00:25:43.300
That's not how it works.

00:25:43.721 --> 00:25:46.923
So let's just say I write a blog

00:25:46.942 --> 00:25:47.703
post today.

00:25:48.104 --> 00:25:49.384
I'm not going to have a new patient

00:25:49.404 --> 00:25:51.246
coming in my door tomorrow saying, hey,

00:25:51.306 --> 00:25:52.326
I read your blog post.

00:25:52.807 --> 00:25:53.968
That's not how that works.

00:25:54.667 --> 00:25:57.090
So the tough part with SEO is that

00:25:57.250 --> 00:25:59.854
you genuinely have to embrace the process.

00:25:59.894 --> 00:26:01.876
But I will also tell and look at

00:26:01.936 --> 00:26:03.479
every PT in the eyes and just be

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:03.719
like,

00:26:04.019 --> 00:26:05.240
don't you say the same thing to your

00:26:05.280 --> 00:26:06.422
clients?

00:26:06.501 --> 00:26:08.424
You have to embrace the process that it's

00:26:08.444 --> 00:26:09.326
going to take time.

00:26:09.385 --> 00:26:10.606
And once you embrace that,

00:26:11.067 --> 00:26:12.088
I will tell you the...

00:26:13.069 --> 00:26:15.952
The amount of people who email me,

00:26:16.073 --> 00:26:17.653
post in my course groups,

00:26:18.174 --> 00:26:20.076
send me a DM on Instagram when they

00:26:20.155 --> 00:26:23.739
see on their referral sheet that how that

00:26:23.778 --> 00:26:25.361
person found them was through a Google

00:26:25.381 --> 00:26:27.623
search or chat GPT because it is the

00:26:27.663 --> 00:26:27.942
same.

00:26:29.263 --> 00:26:30.525
That right there,

00:26:31.226 --> 00:26:34.729
the excitement that they have because the

00:26:34.788 --> 00:26:37.131
plan that they worked for six to twelve

00:26:37.171 --> 00:26:39.573
months is now here and working is

00:26:39.881 --> 00:26:40.481
It worked.

00:26:40.981 --> 00:26:41.403
Yes.

00:26:42.003 --> 00:26:42.564
It's the best.

00:26:42.984 --> 00:26:43.605
It's the best.

00:26:44.046 --> 00:26:46.809
I say it's type two fun.

00:26:48.151 --> 00:26:48.751
Type two fun?

00:26:48.771 --> 00:26:49.313
Is that what you said?

00:26:49.692 --> 00:26:50.694
Yeah, it's type two fun.

00:26:50.755 --> 00:26:51.875
Because it's a longer play?

00:26:52.317 --> 00:26:54.640
Yeah, it's type two fun.

00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:55.881
It's more like timing something with a

00:26:55.961 --> 00:26:56.422
sundial.

00:26:57.623 --> 00:26:58.223
What is...

00:26:59.244 --> 00:27:01.487
What is a good timeframe?

00:27:01.626 --> 00:27:02.567
Is it six months?

00:27:02.667 --> 00:27:03.348
Is it a year?

00:27:03.388 --> 00:27:04.450
Like what is, you know,

00:27:04.509 --> 00:27:06.131
what is like tissue healing, right?

00:27:06.191 --> 00:27:07.792
You break a bone in your, your fifties.

00:27:08.113 --> 00:27:09.473
Hey man, just FYI, this is the,

00:27:09.554 --> 00:27:10.454
this is the scale.

00:27:10.494 --> 00:27:12.836
So what is a realistic expectation?

00:27:12.936 --> 00:27:15.598
If you are doing the things that someone

00:27:15.618 --> 00:27:16.920
like you tells them to do, what,

00:27:17.560 --> 00:27:18.761
what should they expect?

00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:22.301
I will always tell people six to eighteen

00:27:22.342 --> 00:27:22.682
months.

00:27:23.722 --> 00:27:25.824
I understand that's also a huge ballpark,

00:27:25.864 --> 00:27:27.806
but it comes down to where is your

00:27:27.826 --> 00:27:28.645
clinic located?

00:27:29.166 --> 00:27:31.107
If you are located in a small town,

00:27:31.468 --> 00:27:33.588
you're going to have way faster success

00:27:33.608 --> 00:27:35.810
than someone in midtown in New York City.

00:27:37.092 --> 00:27:38.353
That is just how it works.

00:27:38.373 --> 00:27:40.693
So we say six to eighteen months because

00:27:41.054 --> 00:27:42.595
regardless of what you do,

00:27:42.796 --> 00:27:44.116
we also have a lot of other things

00:27:44.176 --> 00:27:44.557
at play.

00:27:44.876 --> 00:27:46.317
You also need to think about the fact

00:27:46.337 --> 00:27:47.939
that if you're in a big city or

00:27:48.019 --> 00:27:48.759
even a small town,

00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:51.561
If someone else has been putting in the

00:27:51.642 --> 00:27:53.123
effort before you started,

00:27:53.423 --> 00:27:55.784
you have an uphill climb.

00:27:55.865 --> 00:27:57.224
I'll tell you that you have an uphill

00:27:57.244 --> 00:27:57.605
climb.

00:27:57.965 --> 00:28:00.428
So at that rate, we're thinking, okay,

00:28:00.508 --> 00:28:02.209
so we're in a large city.

00:28:02.568 --> 00:28:04.611
There's other people who likely may even

00:28:04.651 --> 00:28:05.911
have a marketing team.

00:28:06.172 --> 00:28:08.593
They may be competing with a hospital

00:28:08.613 --> 00:28:09.193
based system.

00:28:09.433 --> 00:28:10.694
It's going to take time.

00:28:11.075 --> 00:28:12.836
We can't expect that to be fast.

00:28:12.875 --> 00:28:14.316
So six to eighteen months is a really

00:28:14.435 --> 00:28:15.156
safe window.

00:28:15.277 --> 00:28:15.836
I will tell you,

00:28:15.936 --> 00:28:18.738
most folks who are in a medium sized

00:28:18.817 --> 00:28:22.619
area will see success with an ROI,

00:28:22.660 --> 00:28:24.901
if you will, within six months,

00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:26.201
especially if you're a local business.

00:28:26.540 --> 00:28:28.001
I know that we're talking to mostly PTs,

00:28:28.021 --> 00:28:29.502
but if any physical therapist had like an

00:28:29.623 --> 00:28:31.644
online business that that is watching

00:28:31.663 --> 00:28:33.805
this, I would say you need to really,

00:28:34.684 --> 00:28:34.865
you know,

00:28:34.964 --> 00:28:36.846
buckle up because it's going to be way

00:28:36.885 --> 00:28:38.326
longer than eighteen months to be an

00:28:38.425 --> 00:28:39.467
online business ranking.

00:28:40.253 --> 00:28:43.015
Like we started this conversation off

00:28:43.055 --> 00:28:43.234
with,

00:28:43.255 --> 00:28:46.336
this is a lot of times people don't

00:28:46.356 --> 00:28:48.958
know that this was a problem until they

00:28:48.998 --> 00:28:50.258
get to you and then they want it

00:28:50.298 --> 00:28:51.378
solved tomorrow.

00:28:51.499 --> 00:28:53.500
And you're like, if I could, I would.

00:28:54.579 --> 00:28:55.740
Best time to plant a tree,

00:28:55.800 --> 00:28:56.661
twenty years ago.

00:28:56.780 --> 00:28:57.642
If you want shade,

00:28:57.721 --> 00:28:59.142
second best time is right now.

00:28:59.342 --> 00:29:00.823
So in eighteen months you could be sitting

00:29:00.843 --> 00:29:02.884
in the shade or sort of reaping the

00:29:02.903 --> 00:29:06.005
benefits of actually planting those seeds.

00:29:09.695 --> 00:29:12.097
you push organic before ads.

00:29:12.117 --> 00:29:12.218
Yeah.

00:29:12.238 --> 00:29:13.618
I'm sort of,

00:29:13.679 --> 00:29:14.819
I'm sort of with you as well,

00:29:15.580 --> 00:29:16.040
but I'll remain,

00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.622
I'll remain biased and shocked.

00:29:17.721 --> 00:29:20.325
Why is that the smarter move for most

00:29:20.384 --> 00:29:20.924
clinics?

00:29:21.566 --> 00:29:21.665
And,

00:29:22.066 --> 00:29:23.086
and cause I want to make sure we

00:29:23.106 --> 00:29:24.968
get explained the, how do you just,

00:29:25.167 --> 00:29:26.348
how do you describe the difference between

00:29:26.409 --> 00:29:27.130
organic and ads?

00:29:27.836 --> 00:29:28.056
Yeah.

00:29:28.135 --> 00:29:29.696
So organic traffic is SEO.

00:29:30.298 --> 00:29:31.038
And SEO...

00:29:31.097 --> 00:29:32.880
And we'll also throw word of mouth,

00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:33.599
direct traffic.

00:29:33.619 --> 00:29:35.701
Someone's typing in your website in the

00:29:35.721 --> 00:29:36.122
search bar.

00:29:36.162 --> 00:29:37.042
That's direct traffic.

00:29:37.863 --> 00:29:39.804
So if we're looking at organic search

00:29:39.845 --> 00:29:40.644
versus paid search,

00:29:40.664 --> 00:29:42.266
we're either paying money or we're not.

00:29:42.787 --> 00:29:44.887
So for organic search,

00:29:44.907 --> 00:29:47.009
we're not paying money to show up in

00:29:47.049 --> 00:29:47.730
a Google search.

00:29:47.769 --> 00:29:49.631
For paid ads, Google ads,

00:29:49.730 --> 00:29:51.212
or we can throw in meta ads there,

00:29:51.272 --> 00:29:53.074
you're paying money in order to show up

00:29:53.153 --> 00:29:53.594
in search.

00:29:53.673 --> 00:29:53.834
So

00:29:54.875 --> 00:29:57.419
That is terrifying to me,

00:29:57.558 --> 00:29:59.480
to have someone just paying money to show

00:29:59.521 --> 00:30:00.021
up and search.

00:30:00.262 --> 00:30:00.383
One,

00:30:00.423 --> 00:30:01.604
because we need to think about our own

00:30:01.644 --> 00:30:02.164
behavior.

00:30:02.806 --> 00:30:05.009
As a client or as a potential client,

00:30:05.128 --> 00:30:07.011
do you just scroll past the ads?

00:30:07.051 --> 00:30:08.314
Because I know that there are a lot

00:30:08.354 --> 00:30:10.036
of folks on Google searches that just

00:30:10.096 --> 00:30:11.377
scroll right past the ads.

00:30:11.657 --> 00:30:12.499
We're sort of conditioned.

00:30:12.858 --> 00:30:13.638
Yes, exactly.

00:30:13.719 --> 00:30:14.319
Scroll right.

00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:15.480
You paid to be there.

00:30:15.901 --> 00:30:16.621
Like,

00:30:16.681 --> 00:30:18.122
can I trust you or can I not

00:30:18.162 --> 00:30:18.602
trust you?

00:30:18.662 --> 00:30:19.782
So that's like one thing that we have

00:30:19.803 --> 00:30:20.303
to think about.

00:30:20.782 --> 00:30:22.064
Now, when it comes to Google ads,

00:30:22.104 --> 00:30:25.145
meta ads, the more tailored you get,

00:30:25.205 --> 00:30:26.446
the more expensive it is.

00:30:26.646 --> 00:30:30.209
So we have to think about how specific

00:30:30.249 --> 00:30:31.730
are we getting in our ads and how

00:30:31.750 --> 00:30:33.951
much money are we going to spend if

00:30:34.010 --> 00:30:36.732
we take away any sort of leads that

00:30:36.772 --> 00:30:38.034
we're getting from ads?

00:30:39.354 --> 00:30:40.474
And we just stopped paying.

00:30:41.295 --> 00:30:43.817
Suddenly, we're quiet in the clinic.

00:30:44.557 --> 00:30:45.857
That is terrifying.

00:30:46.018 --> 00:30:47.778
So that means you have to spend in

00:30:47.838 --> 00:30:48.818
order to get more.

00:30:49.239 --> 00:30:50.420
When it comes to SEO,

00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.361
I will not negate the fact that you

00:30:52.421 --> 00:30:54.382
have to spend money, quote unquote,

00:30:54.521 --> 00:30:55.221
in time.

00:30:55.643 --> 00:30:57.202
You have to put time in your schedule

00:30:57.263 --> 00:30:59.345
to do the tasks like write a blog

00:30:59.384 --> 00:30:59.664
post.

00:31:00.224 --> 00:31:02.288
But you're not forking out your bottom

00:31:02.307 --> 00:31:02.667
line.

00:31:02.788 --> 00:31:04.730
Your bottom line stays what it is when

00:31:04.769 --> 00:31:05.510
it comes to SEO.

00:31:05.530 --> 00:31:07.913
You're not adding more expense in an ad

00:31:07.953 --> 00:31:08.815
to get more clients.

00:31:09.336 --> 00:31:09.855
Rather,

00:31:10.076 --> 00:31:11.999
people are coming to you via a Google

00:31:12.058 --> 00:31:14.281
search for your specific service with a

00:31:14.301 --> 00:31:16.503
specific problem that you solve for free.

00:31:17.265 --> 00:31:19.727
So when I say organic before paid,

00:31:20.086 --> 00:31:22.367
the reason why is one, because it's free.

00:31:22.488 --> 00:31:25.230
Why would we not maximize a free channel?

00:31:25.930 --> 00:31:26.530
Two,

00:31:26.830 --> 00:31:29.353
because when someone scrolls past the ad,

00:31:29.752 --> 00:31:31.794
a Cinderella story in my mind, you know,

00:31:31.814 --> 00:31:33.835
the champagne problem, I guess,

00:31:33.894 --> 00:31:35.695
is when you're showing up in the ad

00:31:35.737 --> 00:31:36.116
section,

00:31:36.156 --> 00:31:37.917
but you're also showing up organically.

00:31:38.337 --> 00:31:38.837
I love that.

00:31:38.999 --> 00:31:40.398
Most of my clients are doing that.

00:31:40.419 --> 00:31:41.700
They are showing up in the ads if

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:42.441
they're running ads,

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.821
and they're also showing up number one,

00:31:43.862 --> 00:31:45.782
two, three, mostly, you know,

00:31:46.323 --> 00:31:47.443
for organic search.

00:31:48.365 --> 00:31:50.145
So that's the best case scenario.

00:31:50.547 --> 00:31:51.386
Number three,

00:31:51.446 --> 00:31:52.949
and this is something that I don't think

00:31:53.028 --> 00:31:54.349
is talked about enough.

00:31:54.410 --> 00:31:55.230
And I can't tell you,

00:31:55.510 --> 00:31:57.873
I will say I am someone who is

00:31:57.932 --> 00:32:00.454
very much so an integrator and I'm not

00:32:00.494 --> 00:32:01.055
a silo.

00:32:01.516 --> 00:32:02.696
When it comes to messaging,

00:32:02.797 --> 00:32:04.258
I will tell you in shameless plug for

00:32:04.298 --> 00:32:05.939
Shante, messaging,

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:09.541
if you don't maximize your organic search

00:32:09.603 --> 00:32:10.042
first,

00:32:10.343 --> 00:32:11.943
you don't know if your messaging is

00:32:11.983 --> 00:32:12.345
working.

00:32:12.684 --> 00:32:13.306
It's a test.

00:32:13.365 --> 00:32:14.326
It's a free test.

00:32:15.186 --> 00:32:15.887
Exactly.

00:32:16.188 --> 00:32:16.647
Yes.

00:32:17.288 --> 00:32:18.930
Now, when we talk about ads,

00:32:18.950 --> 00:32:20.471
you're throwing money behind something

00:32:20.490 --> 00:32:21.991
that you don't know if it works.

00:32:22.712 --> 00:32:23.492
Imagine that.

00:32:23.594 --> 00:32:25.075
If you just sit back and think,

00:32:25.414 --> 00:32:28.257
I'm going to essentially throw money at

00:32:28.297 --> 00:32:28.897
this thing,

00:32:28.938 --> 00:32:30.618
but I don't know if it works.

00:32:31.299 --> 00:32:32.681
I don't really love risk.

00:32:33.161 --> 00:32:34.602
I'm not a huge risk taker,

00:32:34.662 --> 00:32:37.624
but I also don't see any sort of

00:32:37.703 --> 00:32:40.386
benefit in just tossing money into a fire.

00:32:41.047 --> 00:32:42.586
So when it comes to ads,

00:32:42.707 --> 00:32:44.647
I really do want people at the best

00:32:44.667 --> 00:32:45.847
case scenario for me is like,

00:32:45.948 --> 00:32:48.627
we know that your messaging is on point.

00:32:49.167 --> 00:32:51.189
We know that you have people coming to

00:32:51.209 --> 00:32:52.868
your website and either booking,

00:32:52.888 --> 00:32:54.930
filling out a form, whatever from Google,

00:32:55.609 --> 00:32:57.329
or we have tons of people, Jimmy,

00:32:57.390 --> 00:32:59.589
even coming in after they found you via

00:32:59.630 --> 00:33:01.070
word of mouth, because even word of mouth,

00:33:01.090 --> 00:33:01.911
you're probably going to go to that

00:33:01.931 --> 00:33:02.611
person's website.

00:33:02.971 --> 00:33:04.351
They went to your website, right?

00:33:04.371 --> 00:33:05.250
And then they come in the clinic and

00:33:05.270 --> 00:33:06.751
they're like, oh my goodness,

00:33:06.832 --> 00:33:08.132
your website spoke to me.

00:33:08.771 --> 00:33:10.173
When you hear that a lot,

00:33:10.232 --> 00:33:11.253
that's when I'm like, okay,

00:33:11.273 --> 00:33:12.653
let's think about ads.

00:33:13.954 --> 00:33:14.915
But at the same time,

00:33:14.976 --> 00:33:15.816
I'm also still like,

00:33:15.836 --> 00:33:17.457
have we maximized that organic traffic

00:33:17.497 --> 00:33:17.717
though?

00:33:19.178 --> 00:33:21.459
I will always say SEO well before ads

00:33:21.479 --> 00:33:23.039
because we need all those things in place

00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:24.580
for your ads to be successful.

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.623
More traffic to a website that does not

00:33:27.682 --> 00:33:29.604
convert is not going to help anyone.

00:33:30.542 --> 00:33:30.923
Yeah.

00:33:31.344 --> 00:33:31.604
All right.

00:33:31.663 --> 00:33:35.166
So after they book a call with you,

00:33:35.227 --> 00:33:35.446
right?

00:33:35.467 --> 00:33:37.288
Because that's what they're going to do.

00:33:37.409 --> 00:33:38.869
And before they get on that call,

00:33:39.570 --> 00:33:41.791
what would you suggest someone do that are

00:33:41.892 --> 00:33:43.614
already going to be the first three things

00:33:43.673 --> 00:33:44.654
that you're going to give them that they

00:33:44.674 --> 00:33:48.238
can be doing in between now and then?

00:33:48.657 --> 00:33:52.060
So what are like the low hanging fruit?

00:33:53.314 --> 00:33:53.614
Yeah,

00:33:53.653 --> 00:33:55.275
the low hanging fruit is always going to

00:33:55.335 --> 00:33:56.796
be the ideal client exercise.

00:33:56.976 --> 00:33:58.477
I will tell everyone to start there.

00:33:58.497 --> 00:34:00.357
And I think people confuse that with what

00:34:00.377 --> 00:34:01.979
they may have received in the past.

00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.401
I have done many ideal client exercises

00:34:04.421 --> 00:34:04.800
and it's like,

00:34:05.040 --> 00:34:06.501
how much money do they make?

00:34:06.541 --> 00:34:07.403
Where do they live?

00:34:07.722 --> 00:34:08.684
That's not what it is.

00:34:08.983 --> 00:34:09.244
Yeah,

00:34:09.264 --> 00:34:10.804
it's a very different ideal client

00:34:10.844 --> 00:34:11.164
exercise.

00:34:11.184 --> 00:34:12.545
You're actually trying to figure out who

00:34:12.606 --> 00:34:13.706
exactly you want to treat.

00:34:14.086 --> 00:34:14.927
That is one thing.

00:34:15.387 --> 00:34:18.409
The other thing that I really like, folks,

00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:19.570
and this is part of the ideal client

00:34:19.590 --> 00:34:21.692
exercise, but I would say do it anyway.

00:34:22.572 --> 00:34:26.753
Figuring out why people or what you did

00:34:26.793 --> 00:34:27.233
for people,

00:34:27.253 --> 00:34:28.655
let's just use that as the phrase,

00:34:28.695 --> 00:34:30.096
what you actually did for people.

00:34:30.295 --> 00:34:33.416
I find that folks in the physical therapy

00:34:33.516 --> 00:34:33.878
realm,

00:34:34.297 --> 00:34:36.418
they think they're providing a specific

00:34:36.478 --> 00:34:37.159
solution,

00:34:37.398 --> 00:34:39.300
but they don't actually know what the

00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.922
person got out of it in the person's

00:34:41.942 --> 00:34:42.302
words.

00:34:42.822 --> 00:34:45.184
So I oftentimes will look at testimonials.

00:34:45.264 --> 00:34:48.367
I'll have people ask their patients, hey,

00:34:49.228 --> 00:34:50.130
how did I help you?

00:34:50.329 --> 00:34:51.311
What did I do for you?

00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:54.054
Because I genuinely do not think folks

00:34:54.134 --> 00:34:55.655
know the difference that their service

00:34:55.715 --> 00:34:58.237
makes until they're explicitly given words

00:34:58.277 --> 00:34:58.577
for it.

00:34:58.617 --> 00:35:00.940
And unless you're asking for very specific

00:35:00.981 --> 00:35:02.041
feedback in a Google review,

00:35:02.061 --> 00:35:02.963
which you should do, by the way,

00:35:03.663 --> 00:35:03.822
Um,

00:35:03.842 --> 00:35:05.704
you're not going to get that from somebody

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because they'll just be like, Oh,

00:35:06.943 --> 00:35:07.623
like it helped me.

00:35:07.784 --> 00:35:08.043
But like,

00:35:08.083 --> 00:35:09.244
what did I help you actually do?

00:35:09.304 --> 00:35:09.485
Right.

00:35:09.505 --> 00:35:10.445
So do that type of,

00:35:10.625 --> 00:35:11.244
that type of thing.

00:35:11.726 --> 00:35:13.326
The other thing that I will say that

00:35:13.365 --> 00:35:14.365
I tell folks to do,

00:35:14.626 --> 00:35:16.047
I need a habit.

00:35:16.126 --> 00:35:16.967
You mentioned it earlier.

00:35:17.166 --> 00:35:17.507
You were like,

00:35:17.547 --> 00:35:19.068
prove to yourself that you can build a

00:35:19.108 --> 00:35:19.407
habit.

00:35:19.427 --> 00:35:19.608
Yep.

00:35:19.967 --> 00:35:20.047
Yep.

00:35:20.918 --> 00:35:23.079
we have plenty of people i've spoken to

00:35:23.099 --> 00:35:24.960
lots of people as a pt myself i've

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.981
experienced this folks come in the clinic

00:35:27.121 --> 00:35:29.222
and they say i googled it and this

00:35:29.242 --> 00:35:30.963
is what google said and then we sit

00:35:30.983 --> 00:35:32.503
there as a pt and we're like oh

00:35:32.603 --> 00:35:34.684
man like who gave you that response that

00:35:34.724 --> 00:35:36.364
is not what i would say oh i

00:35:36.405 --> 00:35:38.505
don't love it so i will tell people

00:35:38.585 --> 00:35:40.126
go become dr google

00:35:40.686 --> 00:35:42.867
Go answer all of the questions that you

00:35:42.887 --> 00:35:44.646
want to answer and create a blog post

00:35:44.686 --> 00:35:44.987
about it.

00:35:45.007 --> 00:35:46.827
The title of the blog is the question.

00:35:47.108 --> 00:35:48.527
The answer is the content.

00:35:48.608 --> 00:35:49.487
And then the content,

00:35:49.507 --> 00:35:50.588
if we're going to talk about content

00:35:50.648 --> 00:35:52.329
length, I will always tell people eight,

00:35:52.429 --> 00:35:53.849
eight hundred to a thousand words.

00:35:54.269 --> 00:35:55.750
So go write the piece of content,

00:35:55.869 --> 00:35:57.931
answer the question that you wish that

00:35:57.990 --> 00:36:00.371
person had found when they Googled.

00:36:01.050 --> 00:36:01.291
Right.

00:36:02.231 --> 00:36:03.612
And that would be the three things that

00:36:03.632 --> 00:36:05.373
I would say are the lowest hanging fruit

00:36:05.432 --> 00:36:07.012
and the easiest to get started with.

00:36:07.670 --> 00:36:08.532
Professor Lancaster,

00:36:08.653 --> 00:36:11.380
where can people reach out and connect

00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:11.661
with you?

00:36:11.702 --> 00:36:14.088
What is your web address?

00:36:14.541 --> 00:36:15.742
I'm laughing because it just sounds so

00:36:15.782 --> 00:36:16.523
official, Jimmy.

00:36:17.362 --> 00:36:21.063
My website is www.lexlancaster.com.

00:36:21.204 --> 00:36:22.085
You can also reach out to me on

00:36:22.105 --> 00:36:24.365
social media at Lex Lancaster underscore.

00:36:24.846 --> 00:36:26.666
I am always there and it is me

00:36:26.726 --> 00:36:27.027
too.

00:36:27.047 --> 00:36:28.927
And I want to say that when you're

00:36:28.947 --> 00:36:29.867
communicating with me,

00:36:29.927 --> 00:36:31.628
it's just me in my business.

00:36:31.668 --> 00:36:32.768
It's not me and a bunch of other

00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:33.048
people.

00:36:33.668 --> 00:36:36.190
So unless Moose develops the ability to

00:36:36.269 --> 00:36:38.190
type with her thumbs, my dog Moose,

00:36:39.351 --> 00:36:39.990
it's always me.

00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:41.472
So feel free to reach out.

00:36:42.112 --> 00:36:42.693
Parting shot.

00:36:43.132 --> 00:36:44.693
Any last words of wisdom you want to

00:36:44.713 --> 00:36:46.356
leave with the audience or the class as

00:36:46.416 --> 00:36:48.097
we dismiss?

00:36:49.018 --> 00:36:51.880
I believe you put this on the form

00:36:52.161 --> 00:36:53.041
and I was like, ooh,

00:36:53.061 --> 00:36:53.782
this is a toughie.

00:36:54.822 --> 00:36:57.664
I'm going to say that I want you

00:36:57.704 --> 00:37:00.027
to... I could spin it for you.

00:37:00.646 --> 00:37:02.789
Write the headline for this episode

00:37:03.309 --> 00:37:04.590
because that would be the parting shot,

00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:05.992
right?

00:37:06.592 --> 00:37:08.153
What do you think people would search to

00:37:08.253 --> 00:37:09.715
land on this episode?

00:37:10.987 --> 00:37:12.208
What are they?

00:37:12.427 --> 00:37:13.849
Because you want to find people who maybe

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:15.391
they know they have a problem,

00:37:15.411 --> 00:37:17.373
but don't know how to search for you.

00:37:17.713 --> 00:37:18.494
That's a great question.

00:37:18.833 --> 00:37:20.155
Oh, God, Jimmy, there's so many.

00:37:20.215 --> 00:37:21.356
But the biggest thing is,

00:37:21.416 --> 00:37:23.217
do I need to worry about SEO for

00:37:23.257 --> 00:37:23.739
my practice?

00:37:24.298 --> 00:37:25.719
Or how do I get found online?

00:37:27.659 --> 00:37:28.760
How do I get patients to know I

00:37:28.820 --> 00:37:29.400
exist?

00:37:29.541 --> 00:37:31.581
How do I stop running eighteen workshops

00:37:31.601 --> 00:37:36.244
and ditching time with my kids?

00:37:36.284 --> 00:37:37.523
You'll hear the strategies, right?

00:37:37.583 --> 00:37:39.465
Website blocking, social workshops.

00:37:39.684 --> 00:37:40.744
None of them are bad.

00:37:41.206 --> 00:37:41.485
No.

00:37:41.585 --> 00:37:43.626
It's just if you're only relying on one,

00:37:43.686 --> 00:37:44.726
I'd get nervous.

00:37:45.126 --> 00:37:45.806
Yes, Jimmy.

00:37:45.887 --> 00:37:46.327
Exactly.

00:37:46.347 --> 00:37:47.148
Diversify.

00:37:47.327 --> 00:37:47.748
Exactly.

00:37:47.827 --> 00:37:49.588
Diversify everything.

00:37:50.030 --> 00:37:51.213
And then what are the things I can

00:37:51.233 --> 00:37:53.978
be doing on a regular basis, right?

00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:55.262
People have asked me,

00:37:55.342 --> 00:37:56.664
how does your podcast still around?

00:37:56.684 --> 00:37:58.427
I do three episodes,

00:37:58.487 --> 00:38:00.010
four episodes a week for a decade.

00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:02.820
Suddenly I've got good SEO because I take

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:04.320
the transcript of every episode and it

00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:05.240
goes on my website.

00:38:07.221 --> 00:38:09.181
But it's the simple things.

00:38:09.961 --> 00:38:11.481
And I like talking to PTs about this

00:38:11.521 --> 00:38:13.802
because how does someone get stronger?

00:38:14.003 --> 00:38:14.802
How do they move better?

00:38:15.463 --> 00:38:18.063
Frequency, intensity, time, type, volume,

00:38:18.103 --> 00:38:18.623
progression.

00:38:18.704 --> 00:38:19.483
We know this.

00:38:20.244 --> 00:38:21.144
What's the cheat code?

00:38:21.344 --> 00:38:22.465
There is no cheat code in rehab.

00:38:22.664 --> 00:38:24.644
What's the cheat code to getting found?

00:38:26.065 --> 00:38:27.206
Come in for the good stuff.

00:38:27.849 --> 00:38:29.271
Yes, there is no cheat code, Jimmy.

00:38:29.291 --> 00:38:30.413
You want to buy the quick fix?

00:38:30.472 --> 00:38:31.293
I'll take your money.

00:38:31.313 --> 00:38:32.434
It just ain't going to work.

00:38:32.655 --> 00:38:33.697
That, exactly.

00:38:34.056 --> 00:38:34.878
No quick fixes.

00:38:34.898 --> 00:38:35.998
There's no quick fixes.

00:38:36.179 --> 00:38:37.661
And you really do have to put the

00:38:37.721 --> 00:38:38.202
time in.

00:38:38.242 --> 00:38:39.802
And it's an investment account.

00:38:40.204 --> 00:38:41.364
I always tell people that as well.

00:38:41.405 --> 00:38:42.005
It's just like,

00:38:42.306 --> 00:38:45.769
I have an investment account.

00:38:45.929 --> 00:38:47.351
I wish I started that investment account

00:38:47.371 --> 00:38:48.193
when I was twenty.

00:38:48.552 --> 00:38:49.592
If I was a practice owner,

00:38:49.733 --> 00:38:52.313
I wish I would have started my SEO

00:38:52.414 --> 00:38:53.235
work, if you will,

00:38:53.275 --> 00:38:54.454
when I first opened the clinic.

00:38:54.494 --> 00:38:56.376
You don't realize how important it is

00:38:56.496 --> 00:38:58.456
until it's important.

00:38:58.936 --> 00:39:00.036
And you're like, ooh.

00:39:00.376 --> 00:39:02.137
And then my news on a call is,

00:39:02.177 --> 00:39:02.918
hey, guess what?

00:39:02.938 --> 00:39:05.099
You got to wait more months because it

00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:06.398
doesn't just happen tomorrow.

00:39:06.518 --> 00:39:08.219
It's not how it works.

00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:08.920
Good advice.

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:10.601
Lex, appreciate you coming on.

00:39:10.701 --> 00:39:11.800
And thanks for dropping some knowledge

00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:12.001
here.

00:39:12.681 --> 00:39:14.322
The MBA for the DPT.

00:39:14.342 --> 00:39:15.623
Thank you so much, Jimmy, for having me.

00:39:15.643 --> 00:39:16.123
I appreciate you.