Stop Selling. Start Teaching Patients

Most physical therapy clinics approach marketing backwards.
Instead of teaching and building trust, they try to promote services — and patients can see through it instantly.
In this episode, Jimmy McKay, Dave Kittle, and Tony Maritato discuss what actually works when it comes to content and clinic growth.
They break down how attention drives patient acquisition, why authenticity beats corporate messaging, and how clinics can build authority by consistently publishing valuable content.
If you're trying to grow your practice without feeling like you're constantly selling, this conversation provides a practical framework.
What You'll Learn
• Why educational content builds trust faster than promotional content
• How authenticity helps clinics stand out online
• Why over-filtered marketing fails
• The value of transparency with patient feedback and reviews
• How attention compounds for long-term clinic growth
Guest Links
Dave Kittle
https://conciergepainrelief.com
Dave Kittle YouTube
https://youtube.com/@thedavekittleshow
Tony Maritato
https://totaltherapysolutions.com
Tony Maritato YouTube
https://youtube.com/@totaltherapysolutions
Sponsors
SaRA Health
EMPOWER EMR
U.S. Physical Therapy
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There we go.
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Broadcasting way too early from three
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separate Wi-Fi connections.
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It's PT Breakfast Club with Tony Meritato,
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Dave Kittle, and Jimmy McKay.
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I think it's the scream at the end
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there that makes it the best there.
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Good morning, PT Breakfast Club.
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Still one Tony down.
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But he'll be back later on.
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I promise.
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The only morning show here today where
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physical therapists gather twice a week to
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talk about the business of helping move
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humans more and occasionally question
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every marketing decision we've ever made.
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I'm Jimmy McKay.
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That's Dave Kittle.
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Quietly building Manhattan cash practice
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one visit at a time today.
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Let's start off with a little confidence
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and say it as Kevin Hart would say,
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say it with your chest.
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You got to mean it.
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Essentially,
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you drop something in the chat that your
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new PT, Andrew Wolfhammer,
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I know it's not that,
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but that does sound like if you were
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on the Game of Thrones,
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Wolfhammer would be great.
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He's already selling care packages.
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Tony asked why this new person was doing
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so...
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better different something something isn't
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a not something's a an anomaly we ask
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why the answer isn't credentials maybe it
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wasn't even experience or technique you
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think the answer is what dave why is
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this person doing something differently
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yes also as a hook
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why am I currently eating raw eggs and
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how you can leverage what maybe influenced
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me with your content for your physical
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therapy business.
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That is another topic for later today.
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In terms of the treatment packages, yeah,
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Andrew has,
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so Thursday in two days will be his
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sixtieth day.
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We've never had a therapist sell this many
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treatment packages in sixty days.
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He's doing exceptional work.
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uh he transitioned from doing home visits
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medicare part b home visits in new york
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city in manhattan uh for the past four
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years the two previous years was
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outpatient orthopedics also in manhattan
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so first two years out of school brick
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and mortar clinic practice ortho busy
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clinic all that he didn't like that so
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he left wanted to do the home visits
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spent the next six years doing home visits
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in manhattan itself i think that
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is one of the main parts in terms
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of his confidence and experience in just
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going to people's homes,
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talking with different folks,
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having that whole one-on-one interaction,
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as opposed to some of my previous
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therapists,
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including the more recent one that had
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exited, that was not from here,
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not from the U.S.
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originally.
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English was their second language,
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and coming into Manhattan, I think,
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is kind of...
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probably if you're,
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if you're coming from anywhere, I mean,
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if you're coming from Jersey or PA or
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anywhere, I mean,
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I have friends from all over who were
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like, I've come to New York.
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They're like,
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I don't know what's going on.
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Yeah.
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It's different.
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It's a different beast.
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Gravity is different in New York too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, we can,
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we can riff it.
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We can riff and go into it.
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But I also like,
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there's some things that like this
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therapist had already had in terms of
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confidence experience and,
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And then I think I had a way
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better planned and executed onboarding
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approach for this new therapist.
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Although like,
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and we did a lot more sales role
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play in the last sixty days where we
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do it in person or we do it
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on a zoom call and we go through,
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you know, scripts and we, we, we,
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we take turns, like he's the fake patient,
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I'm the therapist and then I'm the patient
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and he's the therapist.
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And we basically know we see on the
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screen or we have in front of us,
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like,
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what's the, I want to think about it.
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Uh, it's a lot of money.
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I want to use my insurance.
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I don't have money.
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I got to speak to my spouse.
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I got to sleep on it.
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That's out of my budget.
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All the,
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all the things that we hear in,
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in cash practices.
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So he's got so many reps in the
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last with that.
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Like we,
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we basically are training our therapist to
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like,
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you have to expect that people are going
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to be surprised.
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Although I'm trying to improve the whole
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process where like
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if Jimmy's my new patient,
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I want you to know what the cost
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approximately will be if you want to move
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forward and decide with us.
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But we always say like,
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either the first visit we've tested,
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either the first visit is complimentary or
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the first visit is paid, doesn't matter.
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But either way, it's like, just try this,
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just do this one visit.
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Don't even think about like past that
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because you can't even make an informed
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decision or a financial decision about
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fixing your chronic low back pain that
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might
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take ten,
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fifteen visits unless you experience the
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value first, if that makes sense.
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Sure.
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Because just the term physical therapy
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doesn't say a whole lot.
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How are you supposed to know what that
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means?
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Because it could mean so many different
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things to so many different people.
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It does.
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Right, right.
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Yeah,
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so I put that I put that in
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the chat for you guys,
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a screenshot of our text message.
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Because he had sold a thirty six hundred
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dollar package yesterday and I was super
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pumped.
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And like those those are the things that
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like I can't always put even on my
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stories anymore because I have like
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prospective patients looking at our
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stories.
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Wouldn't that help?
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Because wouldn't that be like sort of
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doing what you just said,
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sort of seeding what that what you should
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expect?
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You're raising the floor, essentially.
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I mean, maybe I should.
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I mean,
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if you if you were a prospective patient
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of.
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the place nearby.
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You have a friend that has a practice
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nearby.
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But if they were posting that their
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therapist... It's not a turn-off?
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It's not bad taste?
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I don't know.
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I don't know if it's a turn-off,
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but I don't know if it...
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Does it move the narrative forward?
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Because you want to talk about the
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outcome, not the cost.
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I have no problem talking about the cost
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when you ask me about it or when
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I look for it.
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Yeah, so I agree with you.
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I don't know if that's the thing.
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I think sharing is someone just...
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like car dealers are good at that.
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Like they're like, Hey, look at,
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they have like a sign at their dealership,
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new owner.
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And then it's like Karen and Carl are
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outside next to their new minivan.
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They're like,
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or like real estate is good about that.
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I have a good anonymous story that we're
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like,
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I think would be better to describe this
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story, which is we have a client.
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They're super busy.
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They're a little bit older,
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but they're active.
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had a knee replacement,
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had in-home physical therapy in Manhattan.
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He didn't want to badmouth the company.
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I don't want to badmouth this other
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company.
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I don't know this other company,
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but long story short,
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he was getting home visits and they were
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covered through either his commercial
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insurance or Medicare Part B or whatever.
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Well, that's his self-pay,
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but this client uses insurance and had two
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PTs from this covered practice to do home
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physical therapy after his knee
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replacement.
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They did zero manual therapy after a knee
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replacement.
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A knee replacement that was stiff,
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that needed mobilization and all that.
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What's that?
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Unstiffing, needed some movement.
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Typically.
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I mean,
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any outpatient PT that's watching or
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listening,
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they're typically going to do some manual
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therapy for anyone after knee replacement.
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This home practice did zero manual
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therapy.
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So he splits time between New York and
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Florida.
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He went to Florida.
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He found what sounded like a similar
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therapist to us, like hands-on,
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comprehensive, all that.
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I spoke to the therapist.
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He was like minus thirty degrees away from
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full extension.
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So he was lacking significant extension,
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pain with walking, pain with everything.
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That therapist in Florida did a whole
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bunch of manual therapy five days in a
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row only because this client is so busy.
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but in those five days he felt so
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much better and looser and all that so
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then this client goes from florida comes
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back to new york city is not going
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to continue with the other physical
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therapy place even though it was covered
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because they just did they're just like
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hey all right do this exercise do this
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do that you know bend it straighten it
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bend it whatever lift it with it just
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bend it and then move it so he
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felt what hands-on care or different care
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felt like in florida he comes back to
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new york city he finds us on the
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google machine
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and my therapist goes yesterday and i
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already told him all this because we do
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a comprehensive intake of what you liked
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what you didn't like it you know what
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do you think helped what didn't help
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whatever at your previous experiences and
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obviously that was his main part of
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hands-on care my therapist does one visit
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with him and sells a package for thirty
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six hundred dollars which comes out to
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like three hundred dollars a visit uh paid
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up front which is juicy um but the
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the thing is is
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We're providing what he's looking for and
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in the next twelve visits or eight or
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ten or whatever we do,
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like it's going to be completely focused
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on loosening up that knee,
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getting him walking and moving better.
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But at the end of the very first
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visit yesterday,
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he was already saying how much looser and
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better he felt and confident and hopeful
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and all that.
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And so those are the things that we
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need to highlight with future videos and
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content and all that,
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as opposed to a screenshot of like my
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therapist saying, hey,
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I just sold a package.
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Oh, great.
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Or do you start a shell company that
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provides crappy care?
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That is a great setup for your real
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company.
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Do you know what I mean?
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There are enough of these companies
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already.
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You're like, you have a crappy restaurant.
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It's like no seats and the food's bad
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or whatever.
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And the next floor, you're like,
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we have some openings.
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We're really good, but we're expensive.
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And you're like, at this point,
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I'll take anything.
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So what you're saying is there's
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confidence, repetition,
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doing the thing over and over again makes
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you a better person at doing the thing.
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And that's good.
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And, and sounds like he likes it.
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Like you can't make someone who like is
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sort of into it, into it.
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That's not how that works.
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Right.
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I can't, I've said this before.
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This was somebody, a boss taught me.
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You can't teach, give a shit.
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If you give a shit,
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I can make you better.
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Right.
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But if you don't like, I'll take,
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I'll take, what is it?
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I'll take the,
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I'll take the C plus skill with a
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plus effort rather than the A plus skill
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with the C plus effort.
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I can't do anything with C plus effort.
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We can't.
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So this is good.
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And I definitely have had in the past
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two years,
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I have definitely had therapists that are
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on a spectrum of how much they give,
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how much effort or how much they care.
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And my current therapist, Andrew,
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is stellar.
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I mean, just amazing.
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What's your long-term move?
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Do you try to create more?
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How do you use Andrew to create more
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Andrews?
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uh well i mean his second or third
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week he had already offered to inter and
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he did he introduced us to a therapist
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from his previous company that he thought
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would be a good fit that's the answer
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that well that's so that's one thing but
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he literally this is the thing when you
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find a players
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They do those things without even me
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asking.
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It's normal to them.
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And A players want to be around other
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A players.
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So he's like this other therapist I really
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liked.
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I did some co-treating with them doing
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home visits and they were really on point
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and prompt and reliable and all that.
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Like, you know, hey,
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if we're going to co-treat it tomorrow at
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ten a.m.,
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like that other therapist is actually
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there and shows up on time and cares
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and all that.
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This is why a phrase called is game
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recognizes game.
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Like this is why that's a thing.
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It's like, you're like,
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why do I want to,
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I did a video about this last week
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when I did a series of videos about
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like how to flip healthcare recruiting
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upside down and like spoiler alert,
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the answer was not spend more on ads
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or create content about it.
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It was change the actual setup or how
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you're explaining your job.
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It's like if you're a hustler,
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you don't want to be around other people
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who are dragging ass because then you're
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like, why is this acceptable?
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The first people to leave or to stop
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trying or showing up are the A players
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because they're like,
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you're allowing that B minus to happen?
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Well, then I'm not going to get...
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Why is that acceptable?
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And when the canary in the coal mine
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starts to drop dead in the cage,
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that's when you should start to get
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nervous.
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A players don't accept that.
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They shouldn't.
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Right.
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Right.
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So how else?
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I mean...
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we're continuing to,
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we're continuing to work on getting him
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busier and keeping him busier.
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And I think in the near,
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in the next month or so,
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like when more of our Upper East Side
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folks come back from Florida from
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snowboarding, we'll actually,
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there's a few in the Upper West Side
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as well,
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but there's a few more there that we
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can, that I probably,
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that I treated maybe in the last year
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or two that we'll try to get on
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Andrew's calendar.
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So the long and the short of it
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for someone like him is,
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to for me is to strive to provide
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golden handcuffs in a in a nice way
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meaning they he wants he wants to make
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a lot more money he wants to consistently
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make a lot more money and for multiple
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reasons like and like new york city is
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expensive and if you want to whatever like
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raise a family if you just want to
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progress in your career you want to have
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you know build some wealth or whatever
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like into your retirement all that type of
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stuff it takes money and so
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a lot of my therapists,
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like they're okay with that.
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They're comfortable with that,
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with speaking about it.
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And so my goal is I want him
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to be the highest paid staff,
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physical therapist in New York city.
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If that, if that, if that, if that's,
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if that happens, I don't think like,
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where else are you going to go?
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Like everywhere else would then be paying
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you less and having to treat more patients
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and more notes.
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So it's like, I want to,
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I want to continue to
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raise the bar for therapists like that
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it'll continue to attract other therapists
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like that uh will good morning will saying
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always love hearing the behind the scenes
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of dave's practice thanks for being so
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open dave will you're welcome thank you
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for coming live let me talk about these
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in the comments section i like you know
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what i mean i don't think that's enough
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Because people need to hear, I don't know.
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It sounds like sound bites if someone's
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just dropping comments.
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But when we talk about it,
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we go a little deeper.
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We say, why?
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Or how did you do that?
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Or did it really work like that?
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Or what was the order?
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It's just a little bit deeper.
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Well, we'll get into that in a second.
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He's asked me,
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and I have news for you too.
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This happened yesterday.
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I got something.
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But I wanted to make sure we were
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doing this before I moved on.
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So it sounds like if you...
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Why does Aaron Judge make so much money?
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It's because he brings in a lot of
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money.
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Do you know what I mean?
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He performs.
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Right.
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And he brings in eyes and money.
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Eyes, eyes, first, eyes, then money.
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That's how it works.
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Like, attention breeds money.
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And performance.
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Like, his performance brings the eyes.
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His milkshake brings all the boys to the
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yard.
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And not only does he hit for power
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and slugging and averaging, gets on base,
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but also yesterday...
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He's got the cannon from right field,
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and if you've got two out single and
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you think you're going to go first to
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third,
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he's going to throw you out at third.
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He's going to gun you out.
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So he can catch balls in the outfield.
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He does it all, and he's reliable.
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Those are the therapists we want.
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He can catch balls in the outfield because
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he is larger than the outfield.
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He can catch line drives over the fence.
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Tom Emanski is somewhere just smiling ear
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to ear.
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Remember Tom Emanski?
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The defensive in the nineties.
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Did you watch Aaron judge when he threw
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that guy out at third?
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He didn't even look panicked.
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He did everything in order.
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He didn't rush.
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He didn't.
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I mean,
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Aaron judge could throw the ball through a
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human being.
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I think at this point,
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he didn't do that.
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He threw a lot,
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a dart on a line and hit the
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guy in the chest three steps before the
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poor guy got to third base.
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But yeah, he did everything right.
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You do that over and over again.
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You have money.
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But figure out what statistics actually
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get people to pay attention.
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Showing up on time,
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being able to sell something,
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being consistent.
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Letters after your name are not it.
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Imagine Aaron Judge kept going to camps in
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the offseason, had lots of letters,
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and he was like,
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I should negotiate my contract because I
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have letters.
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Did it show up on the field?
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No.
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That's nice then.
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Pick different courses.
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I don't know what to tell you.
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I like this parallel.
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I didn't see this coming.
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But yes, Aaron Judge.
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This is on the fly.
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All right.
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The second thing I wanted to talk about
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was a graphic I'm going to put on
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screen right now,
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but I'll walk you through it.
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This caused a little ruckus.
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And it's funny to watch the different
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social platforms that I put the same
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graphic on cause different reactions.
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People on LinkedIn were pretty pro.
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People on Facebook were pretty pro,
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but then some people got crabby, I think.
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So this was the graphic.
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I took the nutrition label from food
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packaging, which is everywhere, right?
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Nutrition facts, serving size, calories,
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recommended daily allowances.
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And I played with it.
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And I was like,
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the premise was essentially,
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why do I go to an Indeed job
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posting?
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And it's like competitive salary.
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Would that ever fly with the Food and
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Drug Administration for how much sugar is
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in a thing?
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No.
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But it's okay for you to put like
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competitive salary and be really,
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really vague and wishwashy about what the
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job's actually like.
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I got to give it to some recruiters
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who write job descriptions.
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Someone bought them a thesaurus.
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They get real artsy.
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Work with a dedicated team.
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I am literally, I have no notes.
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There's nothing on the screen.
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I am going from reading so many of
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these.
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Competitive pay.
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great environment but they don't say
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anything about the job and then people
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were pushing back and going is it all
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about the money um yeah not all about
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the money but i i need money to
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buy i i what i love about this
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dave is when someone says is it all
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about the money i go no most of
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it's about the food i need to eat
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and that costs money any questions now
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I like to think of it as like
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it's about half of it is about the
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money because the other half is like what
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you do to make the money,
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the job role and responsibility.
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Bingo.
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So anyway, I had some fun with it.
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I was like, hey, why isn't there just...
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And here's my point for this.
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I go, doesn't this just save...
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I'm not even going to ask you if
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you agree because you do this already.
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You don't do this,
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but I bet you would be like, oh,
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that's even easier.
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I'll do this.
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Doesn't this save time and money?
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Do you need seven recruiters being vague,
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getting a hundred people who kind of know
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what the job is?
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And if they want it to thirteen interviews
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to then have seven people be like that
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starting salary is twelve thousand dollars
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below what I'd even take.
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I would never have even bothered to double
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click my resume to send it to you.
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Had I known that,
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why can't you be more transparent?
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People on LinkedIn, super supportive.
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We're going to say.
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let me answer that.
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If there must be these bigger,
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like medium to larger companies that they
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might model it out behind the scenes that
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they're not, you don't like point shaving.
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They're, they're like,
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they're like shaving off of how much they
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would actually be offering.
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Oh, I get it.
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So that might be how they would justify
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having seven or ten or twelve recruiters
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because you have to pay those recruiters
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like a salary as well.
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So if they, if it's a,
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if it's a,
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I don't know,
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a practice that has ten or more locations.
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And if you're in network respectfully and
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you take all insurances,
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I've heard therapists say this.
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Other therapists have said that this is
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how these bigger companies run.
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Basically,
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they focus on typically hiring new grads
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because they either don't know any better,
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they don't negotiate,
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they're in low position of negotiation.
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And these medium to larger companies know
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that every single year there's a new crop,
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new crop,
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new crop being that's graduating and they
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all need jobs and they will basically
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they'll find some of them in that crop
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to fill these open roles.
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And then they'll keep some of these staff
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therapists for as long as they kind of
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want to stay or they they get priced
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out or they they don't tolerate it
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anymore.
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They don't want to treat volume.
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or be in these busy clinics or get
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held back with capped compensation.
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So every single year,
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these companies are like, hey,
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we got these recruiters and you're going
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to be at every whatever health fair and
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the student conclave and all this stuff so
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they can get in front of more therapists.
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And obviously it works for them.
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Obviously they have spreadsheets around
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this.
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And obviously they know that there's X
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amount of therapists every year that are
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going to accept
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No one low salaries.
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Nobody.
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I said, unless I am an idiot,
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like explain to me my,
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with this wouldn't help both sides.
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And no one could do that on Facebook.
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If I were, I just, I, I,
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I just, that, that this is why it,
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Oh yeah.
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If you have ten or more locations,
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you don't want to make it public.
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because you're already making more money
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by offering more therapists and some
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therapists that accept sixty five seventy
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seventy five seventy eight K whatever.
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So every time they accept that,
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it's lower than the one that's on the
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screen.
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That's this hypothetical eighty two
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thousand dollar salary.
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So every time that gets accepted behind
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the scenes without a graphic like this,
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without a company advertising a public
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salary instead of like even like a range.
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And if it's a new grad,
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they're going to be at the dead bottom
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of that range.
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Right.
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So they the medium to larger clinics,
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they benefit from this whole ambiguity of
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this whole situation.
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Somebody brought up that there is now law
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in several states that if you share a
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job that can be performed in that state.
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So, like,
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let's say it can be performed remotely.
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You have to you have to share the
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salary.
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It has to be written out like like
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airline prices.
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And it's just very confusing to me.
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If the bottom,
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bottomest line was going to turn someone
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off and be like, oh, I can't,
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I just can't do that.
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Like,
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I will not be able to pay for
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food or rent.
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Why you wouldn't just weed that person out
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immediately?
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Like,
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I'd rather do five really good potential
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interview calls than fifteen and feel
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like, but I guess you're right.
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I guess it's like, well,
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I might be able to talk someone from
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the middle of the bell curve who's pretty
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okay into taking this.
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And there's this guy,
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Joel Legree on LinkedIn.
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He's like a recruiter.
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That's his big thing.
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And he goes through these talks where he's
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like, oh, to the client,
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the budget was a hundred and twenty,
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but I talked him into a hundred grand.
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Isn't that great?
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I saved you twenty grand.
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You got me a shittier candidate or you
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got me a great candidate who needed the
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job and took it.
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But they deserved a hundred and twenties,
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but you saved them twenty grand for the
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company.
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The person should leave in twelve months.
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And this is a great business to be
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in if you're a recruiter.
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Because you're just like, I'm a,
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I don't know, like a used car salesman.
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Even car salesmen start with a price.
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A lot of these jobs are like competitive
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salary.
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competitive with what if it's so
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competitive put it on the screen let it
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compete at least give me a range because
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if the range ain't ranging i'm not sure
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i'm not there's no i i feel like
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on linkedin or definitely indeed like i
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think it's been a little better in the
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past couple years without at least giving
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a range no i'll do some i'll do
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some deep dives because maybe i'm wrong i
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think it's better but i still don't think
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it's good because it was pretty awful
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there for a while
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all over the place.
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We don't need it.
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We don't want then,
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then some CEOs come back and they go,
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well, Jimmy,
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everything's more than the salary.
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And I'm like, what do you mean?
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It was like, there's benefits.
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And we're, I said, great,
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put it on a label.
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If you're saying it's more than the
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salary, I'm saying, put it on the label.
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I actually, I,
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I chuckled with this because down at the
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professional nutrients,
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the first one that says mentorship,
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And it says low.
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I laugh because obviously,
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I'm trying to we're trying to do,
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you know,
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significantly high mentorship and coaching
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and training and onboarding and all that.
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But I laughed at that.
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It's pretty funny.
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Yeah.
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CEU allowance, a thousand clinical growth.
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Even better,
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even better respect from insurance
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companies.
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Trace them out.
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I generate this graphic.
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I just uploaded to a,
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I uploaded three job applications that
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were real in PT.
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And then I was like,
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create it from that.
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And guess the salary.
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Cause none of the three had the actual
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salary or the range.
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Wow.
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That's hilarious.
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Competitive though, Dave.
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It's competitive.
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What is this?
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Thunderdome.
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Are we in Gladiator now?
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We're in Gladiator now.
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I don't know.
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I think there should be.
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So anyway, on LinkedIn, everyone was like,
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hell yeah, bro.
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On Facebook, I got a lot of...
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Someone said to me,
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I won't even call them out because it's
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a good person.
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Because they were like,
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I'll get the exact quote.
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I'll give you the one I remember.
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Then we'll see exactly how close I was.
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They're like,
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is the person asking this question a
00:26:08.537 --> 00:26:09.116
business owner?
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Because if not,
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I don't value your opinion.
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All right.
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All right.
00:26:17.405 --> 00:26:19.007
But the person asking this has filled out
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a job application.
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So we're I'm fifty percent of this little
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dance we're doing.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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Right.
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The market that you're trying to get to
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pay attention to your job application
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maybe isn't because you're being shady.
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Right.
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That's like saying I'm really open and
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honest.
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And then someone asked me a question and
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I go book a call.
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It's competitive salary.
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What is it?
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Upload your resume and spend twenty seven
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minutes writing out this thing first.
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That's what car salesmen do.
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They say your presence is your power.
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Come into the dealership.
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I'm going to grind you down.
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We know exactly how car salesmen work.
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The recruits are the same thing.
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Well,
00:27:02.784 --> 00:27:05.204
if you want to find great suckers who
00:27:05.305 --> 00:27:06.066
buy used cars,
00:27:06.105 --> 00:27:07.987
then keep doing what used car salesmen do.
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If you want to find clinicians who are
00:27:09.346 --> 00:27:10.327
like, I know my worth.
00:27:11.172 --> 00:27:11.932
But I guess that's the thing.
00:27:12.313 --> 00:27:14.212
Maybe I'm answering my own question.
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They want to shop from the middle of
00:27:16.294 --> 00:27:16.994
the bell curve,
00:27:17.154 --> 00:27:18.295
so they'll do middle of the bell curve
00:27:18.315 --> 00:27:18.536
things.
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You want to draft first-round draft picks,
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you act differently.
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I don't know.
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No, a hundred percent.
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A hundred percent.
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We talk about insurance.
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It's not paying more for a therapist that
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has twenty-five years of experience.
00:27:30.941 --> 00:27:32.622
It's paying the exact same thing per unit
00:27:32.642 --> 00:27:36.223
per visit that a new grad charges through
00:27:36.243 --> 00:27:37.505
their billable units or whatever.
00:27:37.704 --> 00:27:40.286
So they don't have to
00:27:41.049 --> 00:27:42.030
do the golden handcuffs.
00:27:42.191 --> 00:27:45.273
I have a whole different business model.
00:27:46.253 --> 00:27:47.694
And even you got to think of the
00:27:47.734 --> 00:27:49.876
whole patient experience, right?
00:27:50.498 --> 00:27:51.959
If someone's paying a twenty dollar copay
00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:53.839
or if it's they're going to outpatient PT
00:27:54.300 --> 00:27:57.303
or even mobile Medicare Part B covering
00:27:57.343 --> 00:27:57.903
eighty percent,
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they have a supplemental that's covering
00:27:59.144 --> 00:28:00.566
the other twenty percent and they're
00:28:00.586 --> 00:28:01.747
getting free physical therapy,
00:28:01.767 --> 00:28:03.067
whether it's conveniently in their home
00:28:03.667 --> 00:28:06.190
through Medicare or at a brick and mortar
00:28:06.210 --> 00:28:06.770
office nearby.
00:28:07.922 --> 00:28:10.644
And I don't care what anyone says watching
00:28:10.664 --> 00:28:11.125
or listening.
00:28:12.567 --> 00:28:14.648
The people that even my parents that go
00:28:14.670 --> 00:28:16.872
through Medicare Part B for physical
00:28:16.912 --> 00:28:18.032
therapy or other services.
00:28:19.515 --> 00:28:19.815
Of course,
00:28:19.835 --> 00:28:21.957
they want respect and they want a semi
00:28:21.997 --> 00:28:23.118
fairly good experience,
00:28:23.138 --> 00:28:27.343
but they don't typically fully care about
00:28:28.403 --> 00:28:29.685
the experience and.
00:28:31.016 --> 00:28:32.416
the, they care,
00:28:32.436 --> 00:28:34.298
but there's less expectations.
00:28:34.459 --> 00:28:35.179
Let me just say it like that.
00:28:35.339 --> 00:28:37.221
There's less expectations as opposed to
00:28:37.260 --> 00:28:40.303
someone who is paying a package, three,
00:28:41.223 --> 00:28:42.164
thirty six hundred dollars.
00:28:43.105 --> 00:28:44.046
Someone who's paying two,
00:28:44.126 --> 00:28:45.708
three something hundred dollars per visit
00:28:45.748 --> 00:28:46.808
somewhere across the country.
00:28:47.489 --> 00:28:50.070
That person has way higher expectations of
00:28:51.612 --> 00:28:52.133
their experience.
00:28:52.313 --> 00:28:54.174
They're expecting to feel incrementally
00:28:54.214 --> 00:28:56.856
better almost every single visit and have,
00:28:57.057 --> 00:28:57.257
you know,
00:28:57.297 --> 00:28:58.278
things sent to them or
00:28:59.545 --> 00:29:00.986
have all their questions answered.
00:29:01.165 --> 00:29:02.166
And it's a little bit more,
00:29:02.528 --> 00:29:04.548
a little bit more comprehensive because
00:29:04.990 --> 00:29:06.750
there's more dollars in the mix as opposed
00:29:06.790 --> 00:29:10.953
to the traditional model, which is it's,
00:29:11.315 --> 00:29:11.535
you know,
00:29:11.555 --> 00:29:13.957
you take my insurance and whatever service
00:29:13.977 --> 00:29:15.178
we provide for you, like that's it.
00:29:15.198 --> 00:29:16.159
It's kind of like take it or leave
00:29:16.199 --> 00:29:16.259
it.
00:29:17.642 --> 00:29:18.702
I agree.
00:29:18.762 --> 00:29:19.323
All right.
00:29:19.343 --> 00:29:20.544
So I'll keep working on that.
00:29:21.104 --> 00:29:23.125
We'll never see this.
00:29:24.006 --> 00:29:26.067
So this wasn't me saying everybody should
00:29:26.106 --> 00:29:27.327
do this because I'm smart enough to know
00:29:27.347 --> 00:29:28.128
that everybody won't.
00:29:28.568 --> 00:29:30.769
But I think the first organization,
00:29:31.050 --> 00:29:33.531
the first large organization that doesn't
00:29:33.771 --> 00:29:37.454
have to do this, that does, wins.
00:29:37.474 --> 00:29:38.695
Because they become the no bullshit
00:29:38.715 --> 00:29:39.195
guarantee.
00:29:39.215 --> 00:29:40.576
They're like, there it is.
00:29:40.616 --> 00:29:41.237
There's the sticker.
00:29:41.317 --> 00:29:41.897
That's what it is.
00:29:42.877 --> 00:29:43.979
I don't know if I told you this.
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:46.681
We used to have to hire weekend radio
00:29:46.721 --> 00:29:47.121
DJs.
00:29:49.795 --> 00:29:51.696
Finding someone who's good on the air,
00:29:51.916 --> 00:29:55.259
just from listeners, is not easy.
00:29:55.278 --> 00:29:55.920
You know what I mean?
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:56.619
Like, oh, I'm good.
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:57.201
And you put it in front of a
00:29:57.221 --> 00:29:57.520
microphone.
00:29:57.580 --> 00:30:00.103
And then I've got to work with that
00:30:00.123 --> 00:30:00.442
person.
00:30:00.703 --> 00:30:01.703
And I'm not getting a lot out of
00:30:01.723 --> 00:30:01.763
it.
00:30:01.784 --> 00:30:03.445
I'm just getting five hours of airtime
00:30:03.465 --> 00:30:03.705
filled.
00:30:04.125 --> 00:30:05.207
So we ran a contest.
00:30:05.646 --> 00:30:06.288
Centerfold ad.
00:30:06.307 --> 00:30:07.028
Did I ever tell you this?
00:30:07.528 --> 00:30:09.931
Centerfold ad in the weekly newsletter.
00:30:09.951 --> 00:30:10.490
Full color.
00:30:11.112 --> 00:30:11.892
And the ad was...
00:30:12.873 --> 00:30:16.056
the worst job description ever you will
00:30:16.096 --> 00:30:17.957
make state minimum wage you will work
00:30:18.057 --> 00:30:20.419
nights weekends and holidays you will you
00:30:20.439 --> 00:30:22.080
will be last in line for free concert
00:30:22.121 --> 00:30:26.964
tickets or cds you uh just we painted
00:30:26.984 --> 00:30:28.665
the worst picture ever we painted the real
00:30:28.705 --> 00:30:30.508
picture of what a weekend radio dj was
00:30:30.688 --> 00:30:32.368
i wanted all like if a thousand people
00:30:32.409 --> 00:30:34.250
wanted that job i wanted to weed them
00:30:34.290 --> 00:30:35.852
out with the words and first and whatever
00:30:35.932 --> 00:30:38.114
seven people were left i'm like it's fight
00:30:38.134 --> 00:30:40.055
club time you really want it great
00:30:40.935 --> 00:30:42.777
and we did a contest where they had
00:30:42.817 --> 00:30:44.117
then had to record themselves reading a
00:30:44.178 --> 00:30:45.578
script it was funny it was like mad
00:30:45.618 --> 00:30:46.919
libs and then we brought them on the
00:30:46.979 --> 00:30:48.519
air for an hour i made a contest
00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:52.461
out of hiring the lowest paid person i
00:30:52.501 --> 00:30:55.284
needed give a i was like yes i
00:30:55.304 --> 00:30:56.625
don't care how bad that sounds that's
00:30:56.644 --> 00:30:58.125
still perfect for me because the upside
00:30:58.506 --> 00:31:01.727
now flip that no wait did your ad
00:31:01.767 --> 00:31:04.929
have anything that was cool or unique or
00:31:04.969 --> 00:31:06.150
different like you get to be
00:31:06.681 --> 00:31:08.123
You get to be on our radio station
00:31:08.403 --> 00:31:08.724
today.
00:31:08.744 --> 00:31:10.166
Yeah, this is us.
00:31:10.426 --> 00:31:11.650
You want to hang out with us?
00:31:11.890 --> 00:31:12.590
You start here.
00:31:12.770 --> 00:31:13.712
This is where we all started.
00:31:14.153 --> 00:31:14.554
Let's go.
00:31:16.416 --> 00:31:17.837
I was looking for a beginner with no
00:31:17.897 --> 00:31:18.398
experience.
00:31:18.419 --> 00:31:19.980
And I'm like, you start here.
00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:21.582
But I was very open.
00:31:21.682 --> 00:31:22.603
If I had run an ad,
00:31:22.623 --> 00:31:22.982
it was like,
00:31:23.022 --> 00:31:24.163
do you want to be a broadcaster?
00:31:24.203 --> 00:31:25.444
I would have got a million applications.
00:31:25.865 --> 00:31:27.626
By the way, it's nine fifty an hour.
00:31:28.327 --> 00:31:30.829
And I would have wasted how many hours
00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:31.671
would I have just wasted?
00:31:31.711 --> 00:31:33.271
Like trying to convince someone to take
00:31:33.311 --> 00:31:33.792
that job.
00:31:34.173 --> 00:31:36.174
That job was hard and thankless.
00:31:36.515 --> 00:31:37.695
I needed to find someone who understood
00:31:37.736 --> 00:31:37.816
it.
00:31:38.257 --> 00:31:39.518
I led with transparency,
00:31:39.798 --> 00:31:41.819
but I made the weakness a strength.
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:42.279
Good.
00:31:42.901 --> 00:31:45.086
So I got, you know, fifty applicants.
00:31:45.527 --> 00:31:46.608
I brought ten on the air.
00:31:46.669 --> 00:31:47.490
I wound up hiring four.
00:31:49.036 --> 00:31:50.297
I was just about to ask how it
00:31:50.317 --> 00:31:52.858
performed, so it sounded like it worked.
00:31:52.878 --> 00:31:55.200
It became a recurring thing.
00:31:55.280 --> 00:31:56.240
Parents would call me,
00:31:56.381 --> 00:31:57.781
like my kids at Penn State for
00:31:57.801 --> 00:31:58.502
broadcasting,
00:31:58.583 --> 00:32:00.344
when are you doing that contest again?
00:32:02.045 --> 00:32:04.027
Now they're asking me for the contest?
00:32:04.686 --> 00:32:05.688
Awesome.
00:32:05.768 --> 00:32:08.049
Will was asking about GTMO,
00:32:08.069 --> 00:32:08.809
Get the Message Out,
00:32:08.950 --> 00:32:10.852
which is a name for an agency.
00:32:11.152 --> 00:32:12.472
The agency is me.
00:32:12.952 --> 00:32:15.375
I got my second client yesterday.
00:32:16.056 --> 00:32:17.436
I won't say who it is.
00:32:18.410 --> 00:32:20.432
But you and I and Tony were discussing
00:32:20.452 --> 00:32:22.035
this or I asked you a question like
00:32:22.055 --> 00:32:24.317
how much ChatGPT is saying to do this.
00:32:24.577 --> 00:32:25.419
It feels high.
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.200
I did this.
00:32:26.760 --> 00:32:30.746
I sent the price and literally the next
00:32:30.786 --> 00:32:32.167
question was, when can we meet?
00:32:32.248 --> 00:32:33.009
And I was like, awesome.
00:32:34.183 --> 00:32:34.324
Now,
00:32:34.604 --> 00:32:35.544
what do you think I'm going to do
00:32:35.565 --> 00:32:36.144
for this person?
00:32:36.505 --> 00:32:37.704
Overperform.
00:32:37.765 --> 00:32:38.125
Of course.
00:32:38.204 --> 00:32:39.806
He brought a number that I did not
00:32:40.145 --> 00:32:40.465
feel.
00:32:40.645 --> 00:32:41.846
Tony, if he's listening now,
00:32:42.767 --> 00:32:45.087
I did not put the word fair into
00:32:45.627 --> 00:32:49.308
my negotiation tactics with AI.
00:32:49.368 --> 00:32:51.089
I said, what is this worth?
00:32:51.190 --> 00:32:53.009
And it told me an insane number that
00:32:53.171 --> 00:32:54.270
I didn't feel comfortable with.
00:32:54.471 --> 00:32:54.810
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:54.871 --> 00:32:55.810
So I remember that.
00:32:56.051 --> 00:32:56.832
You don't have to say it.
00:32:56.852 --> 00:32:57.571
You don't have to say it here.
00:32:57.612 --> 00:32:58.972
But that number range,
00:32:58.992 --> 00:33:01.173
was it in that chat ABT number range?
00:33:01.472 --> 00:33:01.712
Yes.
00:33:02.294 --> 00:33:03.134
The bottom of the range.
00:33:03.762 --> 00:33:04.923
I was going to ask,
00:33:04.943 --> 00:33:08.145
was it in the competitive part of that
00:33:08.185 --> 00:33:08.326
range?
00:33:08.506 --> 00:33:09.926
I didn't feel confident in putting...
00:33:09.946 --> 00:33:10.688
So that's what I'm saying.
00:33:10.928 --> 00:33:12.628
Someone's like, charge more.
00:33:12.709 --> 00:33:14.170
You have to feel like it's worth that.
00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:15.770
I didn't feel like it was worth that.
00:33:16.912 --> 00:33:18.732
The thing is, same thing with us,
00:33:18.853 --> 00:33:19.973
like we talked about earlier in the show
00:33:19.993 --> 00:33:20.794
with selling packages.
00:33:21.954 --> 00:33:23.875
You just need more reps of...
00:33:24.176 --> 00:33:24.777
And of course,
00:33:24.836 --> 00:33:26.298
this is going to deliver value and you're
00:33:26.317 --> 00:33:27.699
going to overperform for this owner,
00:33:27.858 --> 00:33:28.980
all that normal stuff.
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:30.681
And that's just how you are.
00:33:30.701 --> 00:33:32.001
And of course, you're going to do that.
00:33:33.393 --> 00:33:35.373
then you're going to get more confidence
00:33:35.492 --> 00:33:37.874
in sending that number or saying that
00:33:37.913 --> 00:33:38.753
number on a zoom call.
00:33:38.773 --> 00:33:39.733
And then it's going to be,
00:33:40.694 --> 00:33:41.755
then it's going to be a higher number
00:33:41.914 --> 00:33:42.315
over time.
00:33:42.335 --> 00:33:42.515
Yeah.
00:33:42.555 --> 00:33:45.276
Like Craig said, uh, I thought,
00:33:45.296 --> 00:33:46.715
I thought that was a Grant Cardone thing
00:33:46.776 --> 00:33:48.375
at a zero, like make a plan,
00:33:49.016 --> 00:33:50.656
make a plan, make a plan, mail it,
00:33:50.696 --> 00:33:51.777
let's add a zero to it.
00:33:52.317 --> 00:33:54.458
Jamie Brindle is like a coach of
00:33:54.538 --> 00:33:55.198
freelancers.
00:33:55.298 --> 00:33:56.498
And he says,
00:33:56.597 --> 00:33:58.739
he asked this idea where he says the
00:33:58.798 --> 00:34:00.679
price should be where
00:34:02.884 --> 00:34:06.305
you can subcontract out all the work and
00:34:06.464 --> 00:34:07.986
still live on the margin.
00:34:08.226 --> 00:34:09.586
So what he's saying is if you were
00:34:09.606 --> 00:34:12.307
a carpenter and someone wants to renovate
00:34:12.327 --> 00:34:13.007
the bathroom,
00:34:13.907 --> 00:34:17.369
you price that job at a rate where
00:34:17.409 --> 00:34:18.369
you could then hire...
00:34:18.469 --> 00:34:20.070
You could sit there in a director's chair
00:34:20.791 --> 00:34:22.012
and just sit there like this and you
00:34:22.092 --> 00:34:23.472
hire the plumber, the electrician,
00:34:23.492 --> 00:34:24.672
the contractor, the painter,
00:34:25.132 --> 00:34:26.172
and then your job,
00:34:26.333 --> 00:34:27.474
you live on the margin.
00:34:27.634 --> 00:34:28.014
And I'm like,
00:34:29.195 --> 00:34:30.775
that's, I don't know if I'm there yet,
00:34:30.856 --> 00:34:32.297
but that's a great goal.
00:34:32.358 --> 00:34:32.538
Like,
00:34:32.597 --> 00:34:34.619
but here's what I need reps and proof.
00:34:34.858 --> 00:34:36.760
And this person I'm going to over deliver
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:37.621
for that.
00:34:37.661 --> 00:34:38.641
Whatever I charge them,
00:34:38.943 --> 00:34:42.105
they are going to be like, it's not,
00:34:42.164 --> 00:34:42.846
it's worth more.
00:34:43.045 --> 00:34:43.465
Great.
00:34:43.826 --> 00:34:45.487
And we'll raise the rate in a year
00:34:45.608 --> 00:34:47.268
after I've proved myself a dozen times
00:34:47.369 --> 00:34:47.608
over.
00:34:48.030 --> 00:34:49.710
But my job is I'm doing the things
00:34:49.751 --> 00:34:52.552
I like, which is creating video, audio,
00:34:52.592 --> 00:34:54.614
words, pictures, attention.
00:34:54.795 --> 00:34:55.615
I'm generating attention.
00:34:55.635 --> 00:34:56.315
I'm going to attention.
00:34:56.356 --> 00:34:57.637
And did that, uh,
00:34:59.045 --> 00:35:00.405
contract or agreement get signed yet?
00:35:00.947 --> 00:35:02.568
Yeah.
00:35:02.588 --> 00:35:03.548
Did you put,
00:35:03.568 --> 00:35:06.251
did you put in an automatic renewal at
00:35:06.291 --> 00:35:08.132
a higher rate for the next year if
00:35:08.152 --> 00:35:09.693
there's, if they're satisfied?
00:35:10.074 --> 00:35:11.416
But it terminates it at a year.
00:35:11.576 --> 00:35:12.597
So then we had some new agreement.
00:35:15.181 --> 00:35:15.420
Okay.
00:35:16.181 --> 00:35:17.041
I could have done that.
00:35:17.141 --> 00:35:18.302
I'm just saying it could be whatever,
00:35:18.342 --> 00:35:21.724
ten percent more upon renewal if the
00:35:21.925 --> 00:35:22.206
owner,
00:35:22.246 --> 00:35:23.706
the practice owner decides to renew for
00:35:23.746 --> 00:35:24.367
the second year.
00:35:24.686 --> 00:35:26.489
So it's like a built-in automatic pay
00:35:26.509 --> 00:35:26.648
bump.
00:35:26.668 --> 00:35:27.769
You don't even have to negotiate it.
00:35:27.849 --> 00:35:28.769
And if they want to end it the
00:35:28.809 --> 00:35:30.891
first year, they just don't renew it.
00:35:31.192 --> 00:35:35.414
But then there's no negotiation unless you
00:35:35.715 --> 00:35:36.715
didn't want to have it in there because
00:35:36.755 --> 00:35:38.938
then if it overperforms, you could say,
00:35:38.978 --> 00:35:40.478
hey, it's twenty percent more or whatever.
00:35:41.385 --> 00:35:43.346
Now, I will... So Will is asking,
00:35:43.385 --> 00:35:45.827
so with the good, what's the bad?
00:35:46.306 --> 00:35:48.969
So I had this no risk idea for
00:35:49.048 --> 00:35:50.889
APTA state chapters and academies.
00:35:51.590 --> 00:35:53.110
And I'll tell you about the idea in
00:35:53.170 --> 00:35:53.530
a second.
00:35:53.710 --> 00:35:54.530
It's pretty simple.
00:35:55.791 --> 00:35:56.431
I had seven,
00:35:56.652 --> 00:35:58.932
sixteen or seventeen conversations with
00:35:59.052 --> 00:36:00.253
state chapters and academies.
00:36:00.414 --> 00:36:00.773
Lots of...
00:36:00.833 --> 00:36:01.974
I went to a lot of board meetings,
00:36:02.135 --> 00:36:03.215
answered a lot of questions.
00:36:03.735 --> 00:36:04.695
I've had no yeses.
00:36:05.782 --> 00:36:06.382
No, one yes.
00:36:06.443 --> 00:36:07.523
Sorry, one yes.
00:36:07.844 --> 00:36:08.164
One yes,
00:36:08.184 --> 00:36:09.666
but nothing came of it because they just,
00:36:10.387 --> 00:36:10.547
well,
00:36:10.567 --> 00:36:12.469
we'll meet in three months with the board.
00:36:12.509 --> 00:36:13.469
So one yes.
00:36:15.452 --> 00:36:16.072
They said yes,
00:36:16.092 --> 00:36:18.476
but there's too many people to decide on
00:36:19.056 --> 00:36:19.135
it.
00:36:19.175 --> 00:36:20.538
We'll count them as a maybe.
00:36:21.818 --> 00:36:23.260
But no yeses, no nos.
00:36:23.481 --> 00:36:23.900
Everyone's like,
00:36:23.940 --> 00:36:25.163
this feels like a good idea.
00:36:26.929 --> 00:36:27.969
But that's committees.
00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:29.048
That's why I told you to not sell
00:36:29.068 --> 00:36:29.869
to this population.
00:36:30.130 --> 00:36:30.309
Now,
00:36:30.429 --> 00:36:32.230
the only reason I still think going to
00:36:32.289 --> 00:36:34.670
APTA state chapters and academies is they
00:36:34.731 --> 00:36:37.070
move slowly to hire you.
00:36:37.731 --> 00:36:38.570
But if you perform,
00:36:38.650 --> 00:36:39.652
they just never get rid of you.
00:36:39.791 --> 00:36:40.911
Because as long as you do what you
00:36:40.952 --> 00:36:41.751
promise, they're like,
00:36:41.811 --> 00:36:42.851
why would we get rid of the guy
00:36:43.152 --> 00:36:45.313
who's paying for himself and bringing us
00:36:45.432 --> 00:36:45.652
money?
00:36:46.213 --> 00:36:47.393
Nobody else on their staff.
00:36:47.932 --> 00:36:49.034
And I love staffs.
00:36:49.373 --> 00:36:50.454
Nobody else on your staff.
00:36:50.634 --> 00:36:52.554
Most of them, ninety seven percent,
00:36:52.873 --> 00:36:53.934
are not making you money.
00:36:55.074 --> 00:36:55.255
None.
00:36:56.474 --> 00:36:57.094
Audit that.
00:36:58.054 --> 00:36:59.295
Who's making you money?
00:36:59.534 --> 00:37:01.715
There's a very small percentage of APTs.
00:37:02.554 --> 00:37:03.356
How many rainmakers?
00:37:03.376 --> 00:37:04.496
How many rainmakers you got?
00:37:04.556 --> 00:37:05.456
Not even rainmakers.
00:37:05.496 --> 00:37:07.297
Like people, you know, what's...
00:37:08.177 --> 00:37:08.896
Ring and register.
00:37:09.137 --> 00:37:09.896
Ring and register.
00:37:10.856 --> 00:37:11.958
They spend money.
00:37:11.978 --> 00:37:12.697
They cost money.
00:37:12.777 --> 00:37:13.438
And that's understood.
00:37:13.458 --> 00:37:14.277
They do a job.
00:37:14.438 --> 00:37:16.978
But none of them, I can't say none,
00:37:17.278 --> 00:37:18.518
very, very little,
00:37:18.579 --> 00:37:20.980
like one percent have staff that make you
00:37:21.019 --> 00:37:21.260
money.
00:37:21.980 --> 00:37:24.760
So now I'll say the idea again.
00:37:25.579 --> 00:37:27.460
If you're a State Academy or chapter,
00:37:28.201 --> 00:37:28.940
you're like, oh man,
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.661
we need like to be places.
00:37:30.740 --> 00:37:31.581
Where are we?
00:37:31.641 --> 00:37:32.262
How come we're not?
00:37:33.181 --> 00:37:34.561
Your members think you're not doing
00:37:34.601 --> 00:37:35.922
anything or they don't feel engaged
00:37:35.961 --> 00:37:37.302
because you're not giving them anything to
00:37:37.362 --> 00:37:37.983
engage with.
00:37:38.023 --> 00:37:39.262
And I'm pointing at a cell phone here.
00:37:39.682 --> 00:37:41.423
Videos, words, pictures, sounds.
00:37:42.463 --> 00:37:43.503
But you can't afford me.
00:37:43.623 --> 00:37:45.244
I'm not in the budget to put me
00:37:45.284 --> 00:37:45.724
on the staff.
00:37:45.844 --> 00:37:46.925
So I said, hey,
00:37:47.085 --> 00:37:47.684
here's what I'm going to do.
00:37:48.184 --> 00:37:50.106
I'll tell you how much it costs to
00:37:50.146 --> 00:37:52.585
hire me and my little staff of freelancers
00:37:52.606 --> 00:37:53.226
that work behind me.
00:37:53.447 --> 00:37:54.226
It's two grand a month.
00:37:55.085 --> 00:37:57.467
And I'll produce these ten things every
00:37:57.507 --> 00:37:59.228
month that will lead to engagement,
00:37:59.268 --> 00:38:00.409
that will keep your members from leaving,
00:38:00.851 --> 00:38:03.672
and it will bring you margin.
00:38:04.514 --> 00:38:06.655
And I will not start making the thing.
00:38:06.795 --> 00:38:07.695
We'll treat it like a movie.
00:38:07.775 --> 00:38:10.177
I won't start making the stuff until I
00:38:10.938 --> 00:38:12.780
have made phone calls for free on your
00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:15.541
behalf to secure sponsorship to pay me and
00:38:15.561 --> 00:38:16.163
make you margin.
00:38:18.092 --> 00:38:18.472
And I said,
00:38:18.552 --> 00:38:20.175
I have it in writing and it said
00:38:20.215 --> 00:38:20.295
it.
00:38:20.556 --> 00:38:21.597
Let's just get it out of the way.
00:38:21.637 --> 00:38:23.199
Here's the here's the contract.
00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:24.400
Send it to your lawyer now.
00:38:24.601 --> 00:38:26.684
I want to know quickly because I'm moving
00:38:26.764 --> 00:38:26.884
on.
00:38:27.264 --> 00:38:28.186
This is a good idea.
00:38:29.007 --> 00:38:30.228
This is the problem with these committees
00:38:30.268 --> 00:38:31.130
is that they don't do it.
00:38:31.291 --> 00:38:33.032
They don't do a quick yes or no.
00:38:33.434 --> 00:38:35.016
That's that's that's horrible.
00:38:35.403 --> 00:38:36.744
So I've been selling this since...
00:38:37.043 --> 00:38:38.125
You're in purgatory.
00:38:38.184 --> 00:38:39.344
You're in purgatory with all these
00:38:39.364 --> 00:38:39.724
committees.
00:38:39.744 --> 00:38:41.224
I'd rather... I got one no.
00:38:41.304 --> 00:38:43.126
I got one no from one state who
00:38:43.166 --> 00:38:44.646
was like, here's why.
00:38:44.706 --> 00:38:45.306
Now, here's why.
00:38:45.485 --> 00:38:47.007
If this was a good me going,
00:38:47.047 --> 00:38:49.246
you're not the right fit.
00:38:49.387 --> 00:38:52.387
We're nervous that you won't be able to
00:38:52.447 --> 00:38:55.268
hit the minimum.
00:38:55.789 --> 00:38:58.588
Okay, then you've risked nothing.
00:38:58.628 --> 00:39:00.769
But we still feel like then we're waiting
00:39:00.789 --> 00:39:01.269
to start.
00:39:02.565 --> 00:39:04.547
So you value what I'm bringing and you
00:39:04.567 --> 00:39:05.768
want to start immediately,
00:39:05.807 --> 00:39:07.228
but you're nervous that I won't hit the
00:39:07.268 --> 00:39:07.588
minimum.
00:39:07.869 --> 00:39:08.010
Well,
00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:09.690
then let's sign the contract and I can
00:39:09.731 --> 00:39:12.231
start making calls today and I'll hit that
00:39:12.271 --> 00:39:12.592
minimum.
00:39:13.092 --> 00:39:14.934
Because just like Bruce Willis in
00:39:14.974 --> 00:39:16.735
Armageddon, I've never missed a depth.
00:39:16.755 --> 00:39:17.215
I'll hit that.
00:39:17.235 --> 00:39:18.376
I'll hit it.
00:39:18.396 --> 00:39:19.436
Wait,
00:39:19.456 --> 00:39:22.219
so the role is you're doing calls for
00:39:22.898 --> 00:39:24.860
them to raise the money for donations or
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:25.019
what?
00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:26.961
Yeah, I said I will go hunt.
00:39:28.007 --> 00:39:29.108
I will go eat what I kill.
00:39:29.168 --> 00:39:30.670
So let's say it's APTA New York.
00:39:31.251 --> 00:39:32.931
Hey, APTA New York,
00:39:32.972 --> 00:39:35.255
for me to create video podcasts and clips
00:39:35.275 --> 00:39:35.856
and all those things,
00:39:36.215 --> 00:39:37.097
it's two grand a month.
00:39:37.757 --> 00:39:40.039
Before I start making anything and set up
00:39:40.059 --> 00:39:41.461
your YouTube channel and your podcast,
00:39:42.041 --> 00:39:43.523
I'm going to call the ten largest
00:39:43.563 --> 00:39:45.525
employers in New York State that hire PTs.
00:39:45.565 --> 00:39:46.146
And I'm going to go, Hey,
00:39:47.387 --> 00:39:48.730
you guys need to hire PTs?
00:39:48.769 --> 00:39:48.909
Yeah.
00:39:50.208 --> 00:39:51.889
APTA New York now has a podcast,
00:39:52.050 --> 00:39:52.731
a YouTube channel,
00:39:52.831 --> 00:39:53.753
and all this social content.
00:39:53.793 --> 00:39:55.233
I'll put your logo on it and make
00:39:55.273 --> 00:39:56.815
sure that you have a pipeline of
00:39:57.097 --> 00:39:57.938
applicants coming to you.
00:39:58.217 --> 00:39:59.358
And they have line items.
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:00.681
This is why I pick people who need
00:40:00.701 --> 00:40:02.804
to hire because they spend money like
00:40:02.844 --> 00:40:04.686
crazy because they need to fund the
00:40:05.507 --> 00:40:06.969
industrial hiring complex.
00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:09.532
So once I hit twenty four grand,
00:40:09.572 --> 00:40:10.172
I go, hey, everybody,
00:40:10.251 --> 00:40:11.313
I found the money to pay for me.
00:40:11.492 --> 00:40:12.494
I'll keep looking for money.
00:40:12.514 --> 00:40:13.034
But in the meantime,
00:40:13.054 --> 00:40:14.115
I'm going to start your podcast and your
00:40:14.135 --> 00:40:14.695
YouTube channel.
00:40:15.277 --> 00:40:16.898
Now I'll get to work promising what I
00:40:16.938 --> 00:40:19.260
just did to NYU or whoever.
00:40:19.820 --> 00:40:20.740
And everybody was like,
00:40:22.931 --> 00:40:23.670
Sounds good,
00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:24.652
but I don't think you can do it.
00:40:24.711 --> 00:40:26.132
And I go, well, if I can't,
00:40:26.211 --> 00:40:27.411
then I've just done a bunch of phone
00:40:27.431 --> 00:40:29.592
calls for free and I just didn't hit
00:40:29.612 --> 00:40:30.072
the mark.
00:40:30.552 --> 00:40:31.994
I'm willing to put my money where my
00:40:32.034 --> 00:40:32.454
mouth is.
00:40:32.853 --> 00:40:34.653
You're not willing to put my money where
00:40:34.693 --> 00:40:35.235
my mouth is.
00:40:35.514 --> 00:40:36.315
That's a you problem.
00:40:36.434 --> 00:40:37.414
I can't change you problems.
00:40:38.114 --> 00:40:39.396
So I had one chapter be like,
00:40:39.655 --> 00:40:40.396
we want this,
00:40:40.596 --> 00:40:41.815
but can we start with a pilot?
00:40:41.876 --> 00:40:42.376
And I go, sure.
00:40:42.476 --> 00:40:43.536
Well, will you pay me for the pilot?
00:40:44.813 --> 00:40:46.594
And they were like, oh,
00:40:46.815 --> 00:40:48.356
we were hoping it was the free pilot.
00:40:48.376 --> 00:40:49.637
And I was like, oh, all right.
00:40:49.657 --> 00:40:51.177
Well, then what I wanted to say was,
00:40:51.438 --> 00:40:51.518
well,
00:40:51.538 --> 00:40:53.800
then I got some snow in my driveway.
00:40:53.820 --> 00:40:54.760
Can you send someone over?
00:40:55.380 --> 00:40:56.422
Can you want to drop by and just
00:40:56.442 --> 00:40:57.702
do some work for me while I do
00:40:57.722 --> 00:40:58.503
some work for you?
00:40:58.563 --> 00:41:00.625
Or how's this work?
00:41:01.925 --> 00:41:02.427
But trust me,
00:41:02.646 --> 00:41:04.047
when a lot of people are emailing you
00:41:04.728 --> 00:41:05.909
proper business etiquette,
00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:07.530
they're thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:07.751 --> 00:41:07.931
No,
00:41:07.951 --> 00:41:09.371
I don't feel like working for free since
00:41:09.391 --> 00:41:10.373
you're not working for free.
00:41:11.092 --> 00:41:12.413
or what i should have done was recorded
00:41:12.432 --> 00:41:13.893
a bunch of stuff and just stamped a
00:41:13.934 --> 00:41:16.815
big watermark over the middle of it but
00:41:16.835 --> 00:41:18.795
i didn't do that i responded respectfully
00:41:18.815 --> 00:41:20.556
and was like i don't understand what this
00:41:20.596 --> 00:41:23.476
pilot will prove when people ask me for
00:41:23.536 --> 00:41:25.597
proof i go sure go to youtube type
00:41:25.657 --> 00:41:27.998
jimmy mckay that's the last decade of my
00:41:28.057 --> 00:41:29.538
life if you don't like that you will
00:41:29.577 --> 00:41:31.378
hate working with me if you don't love
00:41:31.398 --> 00:41:32.639
that you're gonna hate me
00:41:33.614 --> 00:41:34.155
But keep in mind,
00:41:34.876 --> 00:41:36.097
I wasn't going to host their shows.
00:41:36.117 --> 00:41:37.938
I was going to teach their people how
00:41:37.978 --> 00:41:39.518
to host.
00:41:41.019 --> 00:41:42.139
This is how you scale something.
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:43.960
I don't want to host your thing from
00:41:44.001 --> 00:41:44.442
Montana.
00:41:44.461 --> 00:41:47.302
I want Montana people because that's real.
00:41:47.864 --> 00:41:49.105
And I was going to facilitate it.
00:41:49.925 --> 00:41:50.545
I also told them,
00:41:50.766 --> 00:41:52.246
you don't need me to create a YouTube
00:41:52.266 --> 00:41:53.166
channel or do any of these things.
00:41:53.186 --> 00:41:53.967
I'll give you the playbook.
00:41:54.887 --> 00:41:57.250
You're not going to run it.
00:41:57.269 --> 00:41:57.869
You're not going to do it.
00:41:58.503 --> 00:42:00.525
So for all these chapters,
00:42:00.724 --> 00:42:03.264
even the president or whatever of each
00:42:03.284 --> 00:42:05.005
chapter can't just make any of these
00:42:05.045 --> 00:42:06.385
decisions on their own.
00:42:06.626 --> 00:42:07.826
It has to be a committee vote.
00:42:08.206 --> 00:42:08.847
I think so, yeah.
00:42:09.086 --> 00:42:11.467
That's what I've seen.
00:42:11.567 --> 00:42:12.507
Or that's an objection, Dave,
00:42:12.547 --> 00:42:13.547
that I have not overcome.
00:42:15.867 --> 00:42:16.967
So we have a bunch that are in
00:42:16.987 --> 00:42:17.789
the pipeline going,
00:42:17.809 --> 00:42:18.628
we're thinking about it.
00:42:18.688 --> 00:42:19.588
And I'm like, all right,
00:42:19.628 --> 00:42:21.690
here's the thing that I wouldn't say,
00:42:21.889 --> 00:42:22.550
but is true.
00:42:23.409 --> 00:42:25.170
If I find success somewhere else doing
00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:26.291
what I've just, like yesterday,
00:42:26.311 --> 00:42:27.030
I signed a new client.
00:42:27.824 --> 00:42:29.326
I signed three or four more of those.
00:42:29.545 --> 00:42:30.947
I'm not available for your chapter
00:42:30.987 --> 00:42:31.306
anymore.
00:42:31.507 --> 00:42:32.228
I made you an offer.
00:42:32.387 --> 00:42:33.768
You didn't answer too late.
00:42:33.789 --> 00:42:34.268
Find someone else.
00:42:34.630 --> 00:42:36.331
Google it.
00:42:36.351 --> 00:42:36.771
Google it.
00:42:36.831 --> 00:42:38.012
Now your solution is Google it.
00:42:38.692 --> 00:42:40.693
These chapters are never going to come
00:42:40.713 --> 00:42:41.153
back to you.
00:42:41.173 --> 00:42:43.856
I know you're right.
00:42:43.876 --> 00:42:44.795
They're never going to be like all of
00:42:44.835 --> 00:42:45.016
a sudden.
00:42:45.096 --> 00:42:45.277
Oh,
00:42:45.597 --> 00:42:47.177
we see you're doing all this amazing new
00:42:47.217 --> 00:42:47.878
stuff too.
00:42:48.478 --> 00:42:50.679
And now we reconsidered and,
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.342
and also we voted on it and we
00:42:53.362 --> 00:42:55.943
hope that your offer is still valid.
00:42:56.003 --> 00:42:56.304
And yeah,
00:42:57.264 --> 00:43:00.588
What I should have done and I will
00:43:00.628 --> 00:43:01.469
do going forward,
00:43:01.630 --> 00:43:03.010
I'm not making any new calls because if
00:43:03.030 --> 00:43:04.353
these fifteen aren't going to make a
00:43:04.373 --> 00:43:04.713
decision,
00:43:05.092 --> 00:43:08.677
I'm not kicking more doors because I went
00:43:08.697 --> 00:43:09.358
by population.
00:43:09.498 --> 00:43:11.420
I went from the largest fifteen down.
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:13.202
So New York, California, Florida, Texas.
00:43:14.902 --> 00:43:16.204
What I should do is there should be
00:43:16.244 --> 00:43:17.065
an expiration date.
00:43:17.166 --> 00:43:18.467
After that date, the price goes up.
00:43:20.427 --> 00:43:21.007
I didn't do that.
00:43:21.108 --> 00:43:21.927
I should have done that.
00:43:21.947 --> 00:43:23.248
It still won't move them to make a
00:43:23.268 --> 00:43:24.329
committee vote on this.
00:43:24.610 --> 00:43:24.971
It won't.
00:43:25.471 --> 00:43:27.052
But at that point, if someone ever does,
00:43:27.393 --> 00:43:29.173
it's the price where I'm like,
00:43:29.193 --> 00:43:29.994
this is the price you should pay for
00:43:30.034 --> 00:43:30.315
waiting.
00:43:30.335 --> 00:43:31.135
All right.
00:43:31.155 --> 00:43:32.597
So now the client that just signed with
00:43:32.637 --> 00:43:34.358
you is a private practice owner the other
00:43:34.418 --> 00:43:35.039
day?
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:35.958
Yeah, because they have money.
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:36.940
I understand the value.
00:43:37.019 --> 00:43:39.442
Yeah, I understand this.
00:43:39.501 --> 00:43:41.664
And it's usually one decision maker unless
00:43:41.724 --> 00:43:43.746
it's owned by a few PTs, then it's...
00:43:44.554 --> 00:43:45.114
Two, three.
00:43:45.635 --> 00:43:49.458
And this is how they evaluated me.
00:43:49.637 --> 00:43:51.778
I interacted with this person fifteen
00:43:51.818 --> 00:43:55.222
times with no expectation of ever closing
00:43:55.262 --> 00:43:55.461
a deal.
00:43:55.641 --> 00:43:56.603
I was just, oh, cool.
00:43:56.623 --> 00:43:57.282
Let's do stuff together.
00:43:57.682 --> 00:43:58.463
And after a while, they were like,
00:43:59.505 --> 00:44:00.184
how do we get that?
00:44:00.224 --> 00:44:00.425
I'm like,
00:44:00.445 --> 00:44:01.666
you call me and you hire me.
00:44:02.586 --> 00:44:04.047
That's it.
00:44:04.088 --> 00:44:05.489
But you're right.
00:44:05.768 --> 00:44:07.429
You did some content with them,
00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:09.512
just regular episodes in the past.
00:44:09.972 --> 00:44:10.753
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:11.945 --> 00:44:12.768
Companies have hired me,
00:44:12.807 --> 00:44:14.690
like large multi-state practices have done
00:44:14.710 --> 00:44:15.192
that before.
00:44:15.952 --> 00:44:19.358
And they'll come in and hire me for
00:44:19.398 --> 00:44:21.302
like a short term, but not ongoing,
00:44:22.284 --> 00:44:22.885
which is fine.
00:44:23.144 --> 00:44:24.126
I don't think I wanted that.
00:44:24.347 --> 00:44:25.528
I think it's after a while,
00:44:27.096 --> 00:44:28.577
everything I put out has to go through
00:44:28.637 --> 00:44:30.500
so many filters that it's like mayonnaise
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:31.260
flavored ice cream.
00:44:31.541 --> 00:44:32.481
And then they look at me going,
00:44:32.541 --> 00:44:33.762
how come this doesn't do as well as
00:44:33.802 --> 00:44:34.423
your stuff?
00:44:34.523 --> 00:44:34.903
And I'm like,
00:44:34.943 --> 00:44:38.327
because you sucked the fun out of it.
00:44:38.367 --> 00:44:39.889
The fun.
00:44:40.028 --> 00:44:41.530
Like, like, like what?
00:44:41.550 --> 00:44:42.891
Like how to go like through the legal
00:44:42.952 --> 00:44:43.313
or whatever.
00:44:44.213 --> 00:44:44.293
Oh,
00:44:45.726 --> 00:44:46.106
Yes.
00:44:46.266 --> 00:44:47.208
Or branding,
00:44:47.228 --> 00:44:48.628
which I have no problem making things look
00:44:48.728 --> 00:44:49.188
uniform.
00:44:49.309 --> 00:44:52.469
But even before that, where it's like,
00:44:53.170 --> 00:44:55.130
so let's use this to promote.
00:44:55.291 --> 00:44:56.992
And I was like,
00:44:57.291 --> 00:44:58.532
let's use this to teach.
00:44:59.313 --> 00:45:00.992
But we have a new clinic in wherever.
00:45:01.092 --> 00:45:02.614
Let's use this to get higher.
00:45:04.135 --> 00:45:04.695
Not going to do that.
00:45:06.077 --> 00:45:07.737
It needs to lead for the audience.
00:45:08.478 --> 00:45:10.318
We can smell a commercial from a mile
00:45:10.358 --> 00:45:10.619
away.
00:45:11.358 --> 00:45:14.099
They are trying to be strategic about
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.679
content.
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:16.701
And I'm like, no,
00:45:16.721 --> 00:45:18.400
this is about changing the temperature.
00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:20.021
This is about changing climate,
00:45:20.442 --> 00:45:22.242
not about making it rain over that house.
00:45:23.543 --> 00:45:25.083
So they were doing it for the wrong
00:45:25.103 --> 00:45:25.862
reasons the wrong way.
00:45:25.943 --> 00:45:27.244
And I'm like, I've been in rooms going,
00:45:27.284 --> 00:45:28.804
you're paying me to give my opinion.
00:45:29.143 --> 00:45:30.905
This will not do the thing you think
00:45:31.324 --> 00:45:31.905
you want it to.
00:45:33.027 --> 00:45:33.726
That fast.
00:45:34.067 --> 00:45:35.108
You're trying to get a girl to marry
00:45:35.128 --> 00:45:35.668
you and you're like,
00:45:36.128 --> 00:45:39.130
let's wear the blue shirt today in third
00:45:39.150 --> 00:45:40.329
grade and you're going to marry her when
00:45:40.349 --> 00:45:40.929
you're nineteen.
00:45:40.949 --> 00:45:41.271
I'm like,
00:45:41.411 --> 00:45:43.831
that's not the that's not the lever to
00:45:43.871 --> 00:45:44.072
pull.
00:45:44.351 --> 00:45:46.833
The lever is be nice for the next
00:45:47.913 --> 00:45:48.353
ten years.
00:45:48.833 --> 00:45:49.813
That's the lever to pull.
00:45:50.014 --> 00:45:51.155
And they're like, that takes too long.
00:45:51.175 --> 00:45:51.675
And I go, well,
00:45:51.715 --> 00:45:52.936
ten years is going to expire.
00:45:52.976 --> 00:45:53.956
Ten years is going to pass anyway.
00:45:55.675 --> 00:45:57.775
since we're a little late or tight on
00:45:57.815 --> 00:45:58.155
time,
00:45:58.675 --> 00:46:00.356
I want to cover really quick why I'm
00:46:00.396 --> 00:46:01.155
eating raw eggs.
00:46:03.797 --> 00:46:05.137
And I want to get your feedback on
00:46:05.376 --> 00:46:06.677
the video I just did the other day
00:46:07.717 --> 00:46:10.657
where I read out or did a video
00:46:10.717 --> 00:46:11.958
about our one-star Google review,
00:46:11.998 --> 00:46:13.958
which no one ever does, ever.
00:46:14.798 --> 00:46:15.199
I like it.
00:46:15.398 --> 00:46:17.679
I would do that.
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:19.119
I figured you would like it.
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.019
Why are you going full Rocky Balboa then?
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.380
Okay, so... Aren't raw eggs dangerous?
00:46:25.344 --> 00:46:25.905
I think so,
00:46:26.264 --> 00:46:30.286
but two years ago in his endless quest
00:46:30.327 --> 00:46:31.068
for velocity,
00:46:31.208 --> 00:46:34.009
Ryan Lambert came across an internet video
00:46:34.108 --> 00:46:35.829
citing the benefits of eating raw eggs.
00:46:36.590 --> 00:46:36.869
Lambert,
00:46:36.909 --> 00:46:38.650
a relief pitcher who's recently been cut
00:46:38.690 --> 00:46:39.652
from his college team,
00:46:39.672 --> 00:46:41.271
wanted to build muscle and increase his
00:46:41.413 --> 00:46:42.032
recovery rate.
00:46:42.413 --> 00:46:44.114
He decided to eat thirty raw eggs per
00:46:44.153 --> 00:46:44.454
day.
00:46:44.833 --> 00:46:47.594
He went from throwing, I don't know,
00:46:47.655 --> 00:46:51.456
high eighties or low nineties.
00:46:51.657 --> 00:46:52.918
Now he's throwing a hundred miles an hour.
00:46:52.938 --> 00:46:54.378
He got signed by the Mets and he
00:46:54.418 --> 00:46:54.818
is now
00:46:55.443 --> 00:46:56.644
In the Mets bullpen.
00:46:57.405 --> 00:46:58.065
Now,
00:46:58.606 --> 00:47:01.887
the reason why I'm bringing this up is
00:47:01.927 --> 00:47:05.070
because I started putting just one.
00:47:05.110 --> 00:47:05.911
I'm not doing thirty.
00:47:05.971 --> 00:47:07.492
I mean, I'm a little crazy.
00:47:07.512 --> 00:47:09.773
I'm not that crazy.
00:47:09.932 --> 00:47:12.014
I started putting one raw egg into my
00:47:12.894 --> 00:47:14.795
protein smoothies after working out.
00:47:14.896 --> 00:47:15.577
You can't taste it.
00:47:15.976 --> 00:47:18.898
It's in frozen fruit and all that.
00:47:19.418 --> 00:47:20.420
It's not a hundred percent.
00:47:21.248 --> 00:47:21.869
I'm not saying it's,
00:47:22.009 --> 00:47:23.210
I'm not saying this is, I mean,
00:47:23.349 --> 00:47:24.349
of course there might be risk of
00:47:24.389 --> 00:47:26.010
salmonella or whatever other thing.
00:47:26.030 --> 00:47:31.371
So, but the point is, is I, I,
00:47:31.391 --> 00:47:34.432
I want to acknowledge how people are
00:47:34.753 --> 00:47:35.853
influenced by content.
00:47:36.893 --> 00:47:38.454
I started, I, I used to,
00:47:38.494 --> 00:47:39.715
I did this a little bit because of
00:47:39.795 --> 00:47:40.795
the whole Rocky Balboa thing,
00:47:40.815 --> 00:47:42.896
maybe back in like high school or college,
00:47:42.936 --> 00:47:45.836
but it was kind of like a temporary
00:47:45.856 --> 00:47:46.016
thing.
00:47:46.036 --> 00:47:47.416
But now for like the last two weeks,
00:47:47.737 --> 00:47:48.838
I'm adding raw eggs to my,
00:47:49.780 --> 00:47:50.342
Protein smoothie.
00:47:50.402 --> 00:47:51.782
I'm not saying anyone else watching or
00:47:51.802 --> 00:47:52.463
listening should do it.
00:47:52.523 --> 00:47:53.143
I'm not saying that.
00:47:53.744 --> 00:47:59.331
What I'm saying is I'm acknowledging that
00:47:59.530 --> 00:48:01.472
I got persuaded by this piece of content,
00:48:01.492 --> 00:48:04.675
by this news blurb.
00:48:05.416 --> 00:48:06.518
And I'm thinking like, well,
00:48:06.938 --> 00:48:08.079
if it could help this guy,
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:09.320
I guess it could help me in terms
00:48:09.420 --> 00:48:09.561
of
00:48:10.432 --> 00:48:12.634
more protein it's faster i could eat an
00:48:12.673 --> 00:48:14.655
egg i could i could consume one egg
00:48:14.695 --> 00:48:17.516
faster than cooking it and it's then then
00:48:17.556 --> 00:48:19.077
it's larger so it's like when you eat
00:48:19.097 --> 00:48:20.257
an egg that's already been cooked it's
00:48:20.277 --> 00:48:24.260
just it's more uh it's more filling than
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:25.920
a raw egg if that makes sense yeah
00:48:25.940 --> 00:48:28.521
okay like like it's hard like you got
00:48:28.541 --> 00:48:30.001
to chew the egg that you cook and
00:48:30.021 --> 00:48:30.842
you got to break it you got to
00:48:30.862 --> 00:48:32.923
break it down so now your stomach i
00:48:32.943 --> 00:48:34.844
think feels fuller or whatever you're just
00:48:34.864 --> 00:48:35.505
doing egg shots
00:48:36.237 --> 00:48:38.659
you have a one in twenty thousand chance
00:48:39.539 --> 00:48:42.900
according to one in twenty one in twenty
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.500
thousand for salmonella so i mean just
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.440
things to look out for diarrhea fever
00:48:47.460 --> 00:48:48.721
cramps and vomiting if you don't see any
00:48:48.740 --> 00:48:50.161
of those what's what's what's the
00:48:50.201 --> 00:48:51.422
likelihood of getting struck by lightning
00:48:51.461 --> 00:48:53.422
it's is it one in let's find that
00:48:53.442 --> 00:48:58.103
out a million one in a million or
00:48:58.143 --> 00:48:59.443
car accident what's like the likelihood
00:48:59.463 --> 00:49:02.804
between car accident and getting sick one
00:49:02.844 --> 00:49:04.224
in one point two million
00:49:05.688 --> 00:49:08.291
yeah so twenty thousand is way more like
00:49:08.351 --> 00:49:12.996
yeah uh odds of getting in a car
00:49:13.056 --> 00:49:14.978
accident that has to be better than um
00:49:15.739 --> 00:49:17.222
lightning one in one in five hundred
00:49:17.262 --> 00:49:19.304
thousand every thousand miles you drive
00:49:19.324 --> 00:49:20.485
your chances of getting into a car
00:49:20.545 --> 00:49:22.146
accident are one in three hundred and
00:49:22.186 --> 00:49:22.788
sixty six
00:49:23.951 --> 00:49:27.114
That's a lot closer than Salmonella from
00:49:27.153 --> 00:49:27.574
Rolex.
00:49:28.014 --> 00:49:28.996
That's from Reddit, though.
00:49:30.257 --> 00:49:31.077
You never know.
00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:35.302
I'm not saying for anyone to do this.
00:49:35.322 --> 00:49:39.826
I'm just saying that piece of content
00:49:39.945 --> 00:49:41.668
influenced me to do it.
00:49:44.891 --> 00:49:46.773
Since I'm trying to put out content and
00:49:46.793 --> 00:49:48.273
we talk about content and we were just
00:49:48.313 --> 00:49:49.135
talking about content,
00:49:49.860 --> 00:49:50.661
I wanted to bring that up,
00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:52.342
but now let's, let's switch over.
00:49:52.402 --> 00:49:54.081
So I just put out, uh,
00:49:54.101 --> 00:49:58.304
we have two one-star Google reviews on our
00:49:58.344 --> 00:49:58.603
business.
00:49:58.623 --> 00:50:00.405
So the rest are all five-star reviews.
00:50:00.425 --> 00:50:00.644
So,
00:50:00.704 --> 00:50:02.184
ninety-seven percent of our reviews on
00:50:02.224 --> 00:50:05.385
Google are glowing five-star reviews.
00:50:06.766 --> 00:50:07.487
One, uh,
00:50:07.527 --> 00:50:09.007
I'll probably make a video about it some
00:50:09.027 --> 00:50:10.588
other time, but the first one was about,
00:50:12.088 --> 00:50:12.208
uh,
00:50:12.228 --> 00:50:13.449
that we charge a three hundred fifty
00:50:13.469 --> 00:50:15.190
dollar cancellation fee for someone who
00:50:15.309 --> 00:50:16.889
booked four visits and canceled two.
00:50:17.010 --> 00:50:18.731
So they late canceled
00:50:19.195 --> 00:50:20.436
Fifty percent of their visits,
00:50:21.617 --> 00:50:22.858
we charge them the three hundred fifty
00:50:22.878 --> 00:50:24.760
dollar late cancel fee,
00:50:24.780 --> 00:50:27.561
which they signed prior to starting with
00:50:27.601 --> 00:50:27.762
us.
00:50:28.362 --> 00:50:30.344
And that person wrote up once our Google
00:50:30.385 --> 00:50:30.605
review.
00:50:30.644 --> 00:50:32.005
And then this one was where we didn't
00:50:32.025 --> 00:50:34.407
communicate the allowable amount,
00:50:34.427 --> 00:50:36.489
the out of network cost per visit.
00:50:36.550 --> 00:50:37.210
And I said,
00:50:37.331 --> 00:50:39.693
this is why we prefer to be self-pay,
00:50:39.713 --> 00:50:41.773
because it's very clear and transparent
00:50:41.793 --> 00:50:44.436
and everyone knows exactly what's the
00:50:44.476 --> 00:50:46.798
dollar amount is going to be and all
00:50:46.838 --> 00:50:47.018
that.
00:50:47.699 --> 00:50:48.760
What are your thoughts on this?
00:50:48.780 --> 00:50:50.501
I know you said that you like the
00:50:50.541 --> 00:50:50.922
video.
00:50:51.722 --> 00:50:51.842
Oh,
00:50:52.403 --> 00:50:56.166
the idea of showing off your one-star
00:50:56.206 --> 00:50:56.786
Google review?
00:50:57.728 --> 00:50:57.887
Yeah.
00:50:57.907 --> 00:50:58.927
It's great.
00:50:59.588 --> 00:51:00.228
And here's why.
00:51:00.248 --> 00:51:02.110
Because I watched this a few days ago
00:51:02.150 --> 00:51:02.891
because you were like, yeah,
00:51:02.931 --> 00:51:03.512
we screwed up.
00:51:05.581 --> 00:51:06.762
How often does that happen?
00:51:07.061 --> 00:51:07.922
Like, hey, yeah, you're right.
00:51:08.023 --> 00:51:09.063
This person gave us a one star and
00:51:09.083 --> 00:51:09.664
it was deserved.
00:51:09.724 --> 00:51:10.244
We screwed up.
00:51:11.905 --> 00:51:14.327
One out of every twenty thousand eggs that
00:51:14.387 --> 00:51:15.407
I eat has salmonella.
00:51:15.547 --> 00:51:19.630
One out of every twenty thousand eggs that
00:51:19.670 --> 00:51:20.831
I eat has salmonella.
00:51:22.144 --> 00:51:23.485
Here's what I'm going to do about it.
00:51:23.885 --> 00:51:26.527
So my next video would be finding this
00:51:26.567 --> 00:51:30.447
person and it would be how many love
00:51:30.487 --> 00:51:33.849
letters and how you're going to win them
00:51:33.949 --> 00:51:35.369
back over.
00:51:35.389 --> 00:51:36.090
That's what I would do.
00:51:36.510 --> 00:51:37.771
I would make this more...
00:51:38.811 --> 00:51:41.251
We got a one-star Google review and it
00:51:41.271 --> 00:51:42.753
was deserved because we dropped the ball.
00:51:43.092 --> 00:51:44.672
And my next step was we needed to
00:51:44.733 --> 00:51:46.233
find... I can't zoom in.
00:51:46.873 --> 00:51:48.994
We needed to find Beth.
00:51:49.014 --> 00:51:49.094
Beth.
00:51:52.090 --> 00:51:54.231
who gave the Google review.
00:51:54.411 --> 00:51:57.333
And we found out, we emailed her, nothing.
00:51:57.815 --> 00:51:59.936
We Googled her on LinkedIn, found her.
00:52:00.336 --> 00:52:01.217
We DMed her.
00:52:01.536 --> 00:52:02.418
She said, what's up?
00:52:03.498 --> 00:52:04.260
A chink in the armor.
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:05.199
We can get through.
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.201
We can get through to her.
00:52:06.722 --> 00:52:07.041
Beth,
00:52:07.442 --> 00:52:08.842
what do I need to do to make
00:52:08.862 --> 00:52:09.443
this up for you?
00:52:09.603 --> 00:52:11.625
You're right.
00:52:11.644 --> 00:52:12.726
I don't want you to take the Google
00:52:12.746 --> 00:52:13.646
review down, Beth.
00:52:13.706 --> 00:52:14.608
That's not what this is about.
00:52:15.407 --> 00:52:17.489
This is about making it right.
00:52:17.750 --> 00:52:19.210
Because that's what we do.
00:52:20.068 --> 00:52:21.692
Beth, what's your favorite charity?
00:52:21.851 --> 00:52:22.612
I love dogs.
00:52:23.114 --> 00:52:23.675
Cha-ching!
00:52:23.695 --> 00:52:24.275
A hundred hours.
00:52:24.536 --> 00:52:25.938
ASPCA of New York.
00:52:26.398 --> 00:52:27.820
Beth, what do you like?
00:52:28.061 --> 00:52:28.762
And Beth's name.
00:52:28.983 --> 00:52:30.224
Beth's name, right, right, right.
00:52:31.346 --> 00:52:34.208
So in that video, the guy, Sam,
00:52:34.228 --> 00:52:35.469
wrote us the one-star Google review.
00:52:35.548 --> 00:52:37.550
And then I immediately went to reading a
00:52:37.610 --> 00:52:40.713
five-star review that was posted sixteen
00:52:40.733 --> 00:52:42.793
hours before I recorded that.
00:52:42.873 --> 00:52:45.715
So that video was maybe not the best
00:52:45.735 --> 00:52:47.496
because I read the one-star Google review
00:52:47.697 --> 00:52:50.298
because I figured I would hook some people
00:52:50.780 --> 00:52:52.380
by making this video, right?
00:52:52.621 --> 00:52:54.041
So I segued into, oh,
00:52:54.101 --> 00:52:55.762
but we also got a five-star review from
00:52:55.822 --> 00:52:56.884
Beth from sixteen hours ago.
00:52:57.443 --> 00:52:59.204
So maybe I took away a little bit
00:52:59.224 --> 00:53:00.126
of the mystique of it,
00:53:00.206 --> 00:53:02.807
but I wanted to bring the audience to
00:53:02.827 --> 00:53:03.288
like, hey,
00:53:03.327 --> 00:53:05.190
we have a ton of five-star Google reviews.
00:53:05.469 --> 00:53:06.090
Here's the thing.
00:53:06.271 --> 00:53:07.672
If I go to Amazon and I'm going
00:53:07.692 --> 00:53:10.032
to buy a thing and I see one
00:53:10.373 --> 00:53:12.554
hundred thousand five-star reviews and
00:53:13.235 --> 00:53:15.496
nothing else, no fours, no threes,
00:53:15.717 --> 00:53:17.498
no twos, no ones, shady.
00:53:18.905 --> 00:53:19.945
Shady.
00:53:20.085 --> 00:53:20.726
I don't buy it.
00:53:20.905 --> 00:53:22.586
It seems it's too perfect.
00:53:23.007 --> 00:53:24.447
It's too perfect.
00:53:25.728 --> 00:53:26.710
Too good to be true.
00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:27.710
Nothing?
00:53:28.210 --> 00:53:29.351
No one had a problem.
00:53:29.731 --> 00:53:31.251
Your quality control is that good,
00:53:31.291 --> 00:53:32.092
or did you buy these?
00:53:32.333 --> 00:53:32.853
I'm telling you,
00:53:33.092 --> 00:53:36.014
these are knowledge scents.
00:53:36.054 --> 00:53:37.036
Something doesn't smell right,
00:53:37.096 --> 00:53:38.096
and I don't like it.
00:53:38.657 --> 00:53:39.257
When someone goes,
00:53:39.277 --> 00:53:40.777
something didn't smell right,
00:53:40.818 --> 00:53:41.478
so you didn't buy it?
00:53:41.538 --> 00:53:41.818
Why?
00:53:41.958 --> 00:53:42.798
Didn't smell right.
00:53:42.898 --> 00:53:43.559
Did you look into it?
00:53:43.579 --> 00:53:44.460
No, I don't have time for that.
00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:45.440
I'm probably not going to find the answer.
00:53:45.460 --> 00:53:46.061
It didn't smell right.
00:53:46.101 --> 00:53:47.101
Moving on, I have other options.
00:53:47.661 --> 00:53:48.603
Didn't smell right.
00:53:49.143 --> 00:53:51.143
Smells like old eggs.
00:53:51.403 --> 00:53:53.626
Not going to eat them unless I cook
00:53:53.646 --> 00:53:53.786
them.
00:53:55.507 --> 00:53:58.168
I can't believe you're doing that.
00:53:58.188 --> 00:53:58.969
You're a real man.
00:53:58.989 --> 00:54:01.150
You do thirty thirty eggs a day.
00:54:01.469 --> 00:54:02.431
What are you doing?
00:54:02.811 --> 00:54:03.972
Thirty eggs a day.
00:54:04.112 --> 00:54:05.012
I eat two.
00:54:05.572 --> 00:54:06.592
They're not raw, though.
00:54:06.672 --> 00:54:08.173
I scramble those bad boys.
00:54:09.155 --> 00:54:10.076
We got six minutes left,
00:54:10.135 --> 00:54:11.135
so we'll front tease this.
00:54:11.335 --> 00:54:12.496
Tony's back on Thursday.
00:54:12.677 --> 00:54:13.797
I want to talk about.
00:54:15.420 --> 00:54:16.400
We're going to talk about,
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.842
this is way too much because I think
00:54:18.882 --> 00:54:19.483
this is brilliant.
00:54:19.563 --> 00:54:23.704
We're going to talk about this.
00:54:23.724 --> 00:54:25.985
Wendy's has a job offer that I'm applying
00:54:26.025 --> 00:54:26.306
for.
00:54:27.085 --> 00:54:31.768
Chief Tasting Officer.
00:54:32.487 --> 00:54:36.610
You're applying for it just to mess
00:54:36.630 --> 00:54:36.949
around?
00:54:38.070 --> 00:54:39.911
I would eat Wendy's hamburgers for a
00:54:39.972 --> 00:54:41.012
hundred K a year.
00:54:41.311 --> 00:54:42.193
Yes, I would do that.
00:54:43.072 --> 00:54:44.414
One hundred thousand percent.
00:54:45.407 --> 00:54:48.208
this is in response to what dave what
00:54:48.248 --> 00:54:50.889
is wendy's doing this in response to oh
00:54:51.009 --> 00:54:53.289
the uh the what was it burger king
00:54:53.329 --> 00:54:55.231
ceo with the cringe video where he was
00:54:55.610 --> 00:54:57.291
mickey d's burger king oh mcdonald's
00:54:57.331 --> 00:55:00.373
mcdonald's the mcdonald's ceo uh eating up
00:55:00.492 --> 00:55:02.114
the burger and it was a cringe video
00:55:02.233 --> 00:55:03.293
i sent it to you guys like right
00:55:03.313 --> 00:55:05.375
away this probably before it even blew up
00:55:05.414 --> 00:55:08.255
and then um when he said oh
00:55:08.831 --> 00:55:09.210
What do you say?
00:55:09.411 --> 00:55:10.432
Amazing product.
00:55:10.532 --> 00:55:11.414
Tasty product.
00:55:11.474 --> 00:55:13.777
Who said that?
00:55:14.257 --> 00:55:14.878
I can't remember,
00:55:14.998 --> 00:55:16.079
but someone pointed out on social media,
00:55:16.139 --> 00:55:17.221
it would have been better if he called
00:55:17.260 --> 00:55:18.621
it a SKU, like an S-K-U.
00:55:18.681 --> 00:55:22.507
Yeah, it's basically the same.
00:55:24.576 --> 00:55:27.659
So now Wendy's is taking some of that
00:55:27.778 --> 00:55:30.882
lightning, some of that online juju,
00:55:30.902 --> 00:55:35.126
and they're trying to use it in this
00:55:35.186 --> 00:55:37.509
way, which is apparently, I guess,
00:55:37.548 --> 00:55:38.289
a real role.
00:55:38.710 --> 00:55:38.911
Yes.
00:55:40.112 --> 00:55:41.934
And here's what I want to get to.
00:55:42.233 --> 00:55:42.635
Because...
00:55:44.021 --> 00:55:45.242
When you scroll down, you're like,
00:55:45.362 --> 00:55:47.003
you're going to create content for us.
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You're going to eat burgers.
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You're going to become a content creator
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for them.
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You get paid to eat burgers,
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a custom Wendy's chief tasting officer's
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email signature.
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I love the fact that they're just full.
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You can't kind of go a little
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tongue-in-cheek.
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A little tongue-in-cheek is douchey.
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Full tongue-in-cheek is Monty Python.
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They're going full Monty Python.
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They're going to turn you into Jared from
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Subway without the creepy end part of his
00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:11.409
career.
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But didn't it say somewhere at the top
00:56:13.572 --> 00:56:15.813
that it's mostly your local Wendy's?
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Did you see that?
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Yeah, it said commute.
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Commute, commute.
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Travel, light,
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mostly to your local Wendy's and or the
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couch.
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They're going to turn you into the face
00:56:24.581 --> 00:56:25.001
of Wendy.
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They're going to turn you into the
00:56:26.181 --> 00:56:28.023
anti-McDonald's CEO.
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That's the play.
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Right,
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but wouldn't they want this person to eat
00:56:34.128 --> 00:56:35.927
at a whole bunch of different Wendy's
00:56:35.967 --> 00:56:36.469
locations?
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They might, and they might.
00:56:39.688 --> 00:56:40.989
This is them doing what I did,
00:56:41.150 --> 00:56:43.690
mimicking a real job offer and having to
00:56:43.750 --> 00:56:45.471
toot full tongue-in-cheek to everyone.
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Like travel, yeah, down to the Wendy's.
00:56:49.311 --> 00:56:50.152
Colleen pointed,
00:56:50.211 --> 00:56:51.492
he barely nibbled that burger.
00:56:51.811 --> 00:56:57.373
That was the most awkward bite I've ever
00:56:57.554 --> 00:56:57.673
had.
00:56:59.864 --> 00:57:02.085
Babies taking their first bites of food
00:57:02.226 --> 00:57:04.788
after formula take normal bites,
00:57:04.867 --> 00:57:06.108
more normal bites than that dude.
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So my point with this thing is,
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and this is a long full episode,
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or this might be an extra episode.
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Why isn't your clinic doing this?
00:57:15.552 --> 00:57:18.172
Dave talking about Dave and concierge pain
00:57:18.193 --> 00:57:19.034
relief is one thing.
00:57:19.233 --> 00:57:21.275
That's the CEO talking about McDonald's is
00:57:21.394 --> 00:57:21.795
one thing.
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But where are the customers?
00:57:24.815 --> 00:57:25.797
How many people...
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That's why I asked this question
00:57:29.452 --> 00:57:30.512
specifically for that number.
00:57:30.952 --> 00:57:33.014
How many new patients would you need in
00:57:33.056 --> 00:57:33.556
your practice?
00:57:33.596 --> 00:57:35.297
And I understand they're different in
00:57:35.418 --> 00:57:36.818
geography and type.
00:57:37.420 --> 00:57:37.981
My question is,
00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:40.422
how many new patients would you need to
00:57:40.463 --> 00:57:41.284
turn to someone and go,
00:57:41.344 --> 00:57:42.264
I'll give you a hundred grand.
00:57:42.324 --> 00:57:42.945
What do I got to do?
00:57:44.556 --> 00:57:48.059
be the chief exercise officer of concierge
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:48.400
payment.
00:57:48.460 --> 00:57:49.041
What does that mean?
00:57:49.161 --> 00:57:49.902
We're going to figure it out.
00:57:49.922 --> 00:57:51.882
The goal is how do I turn you
00:57:51.943 --> 00:57:54.045
into real person doing real things?
00:57:54.065 --> 00:57:55.246
I don't know the answer,
00:57:55.686 --> 00:57:56.887
but no one does this.
00:57:57.387 --> 00:57:59.248
That's why this gets legs is because no
00:57:59.309 --> 00:57:59.989
one does this.
00:58:00.409 --> 00:58:03.733
Wendy's needs, Wendy's needs no meetings.
00:58:03.773 --> 00:58:05.034
Like there likely was a meeting.
00:58:05.054 --> 00:58:06.355
Have you ever seen the TV show TMZ?
00:58:07.365 --> 00:58:08.206
where it's just a bullpen,
00:58:08.226 --> 00:58:09.106
it's just a bunch of cute...
00:58:09.387 --> 00:58:11.067
That's what I envision the meeting at
00:58:11.106 --> 00:58:11.527
Wendy's.
00:58:11.788 --> 00:58:12.427
Going, hey,
00:58:12.708 --> 00:58:14.688
McDonald's CEO is nuts and he has creepy
00:58:14.708 --> 00:58:15.168
human bites.
00:58:15.208 --> 00:58:15.708
What do we do?
00:58:16.588 --> 00:58:19.309
Hire a normal person.
00:58:19.329 --> 00:58:20.690
This is the most basic idea.
00:58:20.751 --> 00:58:22.572
Hire a normal person to eat and we'll
00:58:22.592 --> 00:58:24.172
just... What are we going to do?
00:58:24.552 --> 00:58:25.753
Put them on content.
00:58:25.972 --> 00:58:26.893
What will they do in the content?
00:58:27.233 --> 00:58:27.793
Eat normally.
00:58:29.313 --> 00:58:31.014
And is that worth a hundred thousand
00:58:31.054 --> 00:58:31.494
dollars?
00:58:31.815 --> 00:58:33.255
Because the attention they will garner
00:58:33.295 --> 00:58:36.257
from it will lead to Frosty's burgers and
00:58:36.336 --> 00:58:36.597
fries.
00:58:37.686 --> 00:58:40.407
They know that â Wendy's corporate knows
00:58:40.427 --> 00:58:42.289
that this caught a whole bunch of buzz,
00:58:42.309 --> 00:58:45.032
however many views or shares or comments
00:58:45.052 --> 00:58:45.652
and engagement.
00:58:46.333 --> 00:58:49.376
It's a temporary thing.
00:58:50.097 --> 00:58:51.438
It's something that's happening right now.
00:58:51.717 --> 00:58:52.139
If anything,
00:58:52.278 --> 00:58:53.559
maybe a week or two ago when it
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:54.501
first happened would have been better,
00:58:54.541 --> 00:58:56.282
but this just came out.
00:58:56.722 --> 00:58:57.923
Right.
00:58:57.943 --> 00:59:00.865
But that's the thing is likely this person
00:59:00.985 --> 00:59:02.608
has â
00:59:02.570 --> 00:59:05.494
like Tom Cruise Mission Impossible level
00:59:05.554 --> 00:59:06.153
clearance.
00:59:07.394 --> 00:59:09.376
The person that runs Wendy's IMF,
00:59:09.396 --> 00:59:10.697
their Impossible Mission Force.
00:59:11.378 --> 00:59:12.539
They're like, you can do any...
00:59:12.579 --> 00:59:14.222
This is like Zappos shoes saying,
00:59:14.541 --> 00:59:15.623
if you're in customer service,
00:59:15.663 --> 00:59:17.264
you can solve any problem that a customer
00:59:17.284 --> 00:59:18.224
brings you as long as it's less than
00:59:18.244 --> 00:59:18.746
a thousand dollars.
00:59:19.467 --> 00:59:20.248
You have to justify it,
00:59:20.268 --> 00:59:20.847
like write it down.
00:59:21.128 --> 00:59:22.248
And if you just keep giving away money,
00:59:22.289 --> 00:59:22.869
we're going to fire you.
00:59:23.068 --> 00:59:24.130
But as long as you can justify it,
00:59:24.289 --> 00:59:24.909
yes, got it.
00:59:25.150 --> 00:59:25.989
Hey, I looked that person up.
00:59:26.030 --> 00:59:27.710
They spent seventeen thousand dollars over
00:59:27.731 --> 00:59:29.170
the last decade and they had a problem
00:59:29.190 --> 00:59:30.572
with their shoe and it was their sister's
00:59:30.592 --> 00:59:31.132
wedding next day.
00:59:31.311 --> 00:59:33.873
So I overnighted three pairs of shoes,
00:59:34.693 --> 00:59:35.092
a nine,
00:59:35.112 --> 00:59:36.393
a ten and eleven to make sure one
00:59:36.413 --> 00:59:36.853
of them fixed.
00:59:36.873 --> 00:59:37.673
It was his sister's wedding.
00:59:37.833 --> 00:59:38.773
And I'm sure the CEO would go,
00:59:38.914 --> 00:59:39.233
great move.
00:59:39.253 --> 00:59:41.655
Because she's going to tell a hundred
00:59:41.695 --> 00:59:43.735
people about Zappos shoes and she got
00:59:43.755 --> 00:59:45.076
she's going to tell that story fifty times
00:59:45.215 --> 00:59:45.735
at the wedding.
00:59:46.157 --> 00:59:47.476
They sent me three pairs of shoes.
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.061
This is Wendy's going,
00:59:49.882 --> 00:59:51.264
we need to put together a team who
00:59:51.304 --> 00:59:52.804
can do batshit crazy things to get
00:59:52.824 --> 00:59:53.186
attention,
00:59:53.545 --> 00:59:54.686
knowing that they might miss eight out of
00:59:54.706 --> 00:59:55.166
ten times.
00:59:55.427 --> 00:59:57.028
But if they hit one out of those
00:59:57.068 --> 00:59:58.429
ten times, home run.
00:59:58.449 --> 01:00:00.132
Pays for everything.
01:00:00.152 --> 01:00:01.693
Wendy's can do it for a hundred grand.
01:00:01.893 --> 01:00:02.934
I know a clinic can't.
01:00:03.494 --> 01:00:04.655
But a big group of clinics?
01:00:06.056 --> 01:00:06.856
Why haven't they done it?
01:00:07.898 --> 01:00:09.338
Wait, you're saying one clinic can't?
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:09.699
What do you mean?
01:00:11.018 --> 01:00:12.798
A standalone clinic with three clinicians
01:00:13.018 --> 01:00:14.338
is going to spend a hundred thousand
01:00:14.358 --> 01:00:16.239
dollars to hire- Oh, no, no, no.
01:00:16.260 --> 01:00:16.300
No,
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:17.679
I thought you meant just like putting out
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.221
the content that could make this type of
01:00:20.260 --> 01:00:20.661
an effect.
01:00:20.942 --> 01:00:21.601
So at scale,
01:00:21.621 --> 01:00:22.961
so I asked this question and of course
01:00:23.021 --> 01:00:24.242
people get a little like, oh,
01:00:24.382 --> 01:00:25.663
you're just going to spend so much money
01:00:25.682 --> 01:00:26.302
on marketing, Jimmy?
01:00:26.342 --> 01:00:26.844
I was like, no, no,
01:00:26.923 --> 01:00:28.623
I'm trying to figure out what your hundred
01:00:28.643 --> 01:00:29.244
thousand dollars,
01:00:29.384 --> 01:00:30.405
they're offering a hundred thousand
01:00:30.425 --> 01:00:30.885
dollars salary.
01:00:31.164 --> 01:00:32.125
Maybe you turn to someone in a local
01:00:32.144 --> 01:00:33.485
community and you go, here's ten grand.
01:00:34.885 --> 01:00:35.407
What are you going to do?
01:00:35.427 --> 01:00:37.206
How many patients would that person have
01:00:37.246 --> 01:00:38.987
to bring in to justify the ten grand
01:00:39.007 --> 01:00:39.307
spend?
01:00:40.463 --> 01:00:42.545
And let's say you hired the mayor.
01:00:42.585 --> 01:00:43.885
Quite literally, in my size town,
01:00:43.905 --> 01:00:46.887
if you hired the mayor, that's a coup.
01:00:47.568 --> 01:00:48.309
Everybody sees him.
01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:49.150
And you're like,
01:00:49.170 --> 01:00:49.690
what do you have to do?
01:00:49.730 --> 01:00:50.471
You just wear a t-shirt.
01:00:50.931 --> 01:00:52.052
Okay.
01:00:52.431 --> 01:00:54.653
There's a TV commercial about that.
01:00:54.713 --> 01:00:56.474
Little kids at eighth grade graduation.
01:00:56.815 --> 01:00:58.175
And they're going across the stage.
01:00:58.817 --> 01:01:00.958
And it's like, they're reading the names.
01:01:01.057 --> 01:01:02.039
The principals read the names.
01:01:02.099 --> 01:01:04.300
And it's like, Smith, Tire, and Auto.
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:04.860
And everybody claps.
01:01:04.900 --> 01:01:05.320
And someone's like,
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:07.121
why did they just call Benji Smith?
01:01:07.141 --> 01:01:08.882
We sold the community rights.
01:01:08.902 --> 01:01:09.603
Yeah.
01:01:09.884 --> 01:01:10.764
Oh, this is crazy.
01:01:11.346 --> 01:01:14.309
Is it though?
01:01:14.349 --> 01:01:15.170
Is it though?
01:01:15.230 --> 01:01:15.990
Dave's got to go to work.
01:01:16.030 --> 01:01:17.211
He's probably got to pound a few more
01:01:17.271 --> 01:01:18.193
eggs before he gets out of here.
01:01:19.235 --> 01:01:20.576
Well, back on Thursday, Tony's back.
01:01:20.775 --> 01:01:22.878
I want to see more discussion around
01:01:22.918 --> 01:01:23.920
Wendy's and what they're doing.
01:01:23.940 --> 01:01:25.722
And we'll see you guys next week.
01:01:27.643 --> 01:01:27.864
That's it.
01:01:27.884 --> 01:01:28.103
We're out.
01:01:28.123 --> 01:01:29.605
Boys, what the hell are you doing?
01:01:29.664 --> 01:01:32.485
Follow Tony Meritato on YouTube at Total
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conciergepainrelief.com and on YouTube at
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The Dave Kittle Show.
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And follow Jimmy McKay at PT Podcasts on
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YouTube, the socials,
01:01:43.726 --> 01:01:45.527
and wherever you binge podcasts you
01:01:45.547 --> 01:01:47.208
pretend are for CEUs.
01:01:47.507 --> 01:01:48.967
And hey, just a reminder,
01:01:49.427 --> 01:01:50.728
none of this was for advice.
01:01:50.788 --> 01:01:52.068
This was for entertainment only.
01:01:52.527 --> 01:01:53.929
Our lawyers say that counts.
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Thanks, Keith.
