“It’s Not About the CEUs” — The Truth About CSM and APTA

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You're listening to the PT Pinecast,

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where smart people in healthcare come to

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make noise.

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Here's your host, Jimmy McKay.

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Yo, Rebecca Griffith, Jimmy McKay,

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coming to you live.

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The calm before the storm.

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Been talking about APTA CSM,

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I think very apropos,

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although I don't know what apropos means,

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I just hear smart and fancy people say

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it, to have the Super Bowl.

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the same week as CSM because I feel

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like this is our Super Bowl.

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So that's what I think apropos means.

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Don't ask me to spell it.

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I couldn't even Google it.

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It's just short for appropriate.

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Oh, apropos.

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Didn't know that.

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I think.

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Maybe.

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I'll Google it later.

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So Rebecca Griffith,

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frequent contributor to the show,

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physical therapist,

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the EDDPT and APTA Colorado.

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Colorado?

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Colorado.

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I say Colorado because we're super rad.

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Oh.

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Not Colorado.

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I pronounced Oregon wrong.

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I think because I called it Oregon when

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we had a conference out there.

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It's Oregon.

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I don't actually know what the correct

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pronunciation of Colorado is,

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but given that I'm a Colorado native,

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I feel like I can just say it's

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Colorado.

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Say whatever you want.

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But your duties this week,

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how many presentations at CSM will you be

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delivering?

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Three?

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Yeah.

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I have two presentations and a poster,

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and then I'm going to help facilitate a

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session on disaster response,

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which is kind of exciting.

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So is that three?

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What are the differences between a

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presentation and a session?

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Well,

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the session is really like a working

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group, I think,

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having conversations about disaster

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preparedness for physical therapists.

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Okay.

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Let's go through.

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I'm giving a lot of people,

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if you listen to the content the last

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couple of weeks,

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days,

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and I think I'll go through till tomorrow,

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giving away sort of like preview episodes.

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Talk to some people from PTJ.

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I talked to two hilarious women who were

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they were they dressed up for the live

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stream.

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They dressed up.

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One was a pickleball paddle.

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I talked to her last week.

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Other dressed up like a pickleball.

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I'm so excited for that,

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but I think it's at a time when

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I'm presenting.

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My first session on Thursday,

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I am super excited about it.

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It's called Managing the Unmanageable,

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the A-Holes of the Emergency Department.

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You're just excited because you got to say

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the word A-Holes.

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I know.

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And I realistically didn't think it would

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get approved.

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Oh, approved.

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So why is it called A-Holes?

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How did you justify the use of an

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A-Hole?

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Well,

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because one of the things that I feel

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like has been a little bit frustrating at

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CSM in the past is that all of

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the content around the emergency

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department is pretty introductory.

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And I think there was a time when

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that was necessary, right?

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But last year at CSM,

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when I was giving presentations, I said,

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hey,

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how many of you have never heard of

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EDPT before?

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And everybody had heard of it.

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So it wasn't like we didn't need this.

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Here's how to start an EDPT practice

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anymore.

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so we're thinking about like what

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intermediate content do people need that's

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like beyond the basics so the a-holes are

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going to be like those things that are

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like harder to manage in the ed whether

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that's aggression anxiety um i don't want

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to give away all of the a-holes you

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have to come to the presentation you can

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you know because think about it most of

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the audience is not getting on a plane

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like eighteen thousand people that's so

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valid so we're talking about anxiety

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aggression altered mental status abuse

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arrogance

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access,

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like those are some of the things we're

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gonna be talking about.

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And like how you identify them,

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how you work through them,

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because really top of scope practice,

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right isn't avoiding the holes,

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it's leading through them.

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So we're going to provide an antidote for

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each a hole, aim for the hole.

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Don't avoid it.

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No, we're going to aim right for it.

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And so my co-presenters for that are Dr.

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Sarah Nakvato,

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who's a physical therapist at UW in

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Wisconsin,

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and she's the supervisor of the ED therapy

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services, both PT and OT.

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And she's worked in several different

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emergency departments,

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so has tons of great experience with that.

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And then Dr. Brandon Morchetti,

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who is actually a physical therapist,

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but went back to school and became an

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emergency department physician.

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He started as a paramedic,

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went to PT school.

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When he was in PT school, he's like,

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hey, I think I want to do more.

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And then worked as a PT while he

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went to medical school and then became an

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ED physician.

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So he's kind of got two different

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perspectives.

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And I was looking at his content

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yesterday.

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he is going to call you out.

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Like talk about like pulling somebody to

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the top of their scope.

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He is going to call you out because

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he knows those limiting PT mindsets and he

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knows where we could be and where we

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should be and where that gap is between

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the PT and the physician and why we

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need to step into that.

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He's been on both.

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He's seen both sides of the a-hole,

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the inside of the a-hole and the outside

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of the a-hole.

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It's a good, it's a good view.

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Um,

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When you get one person who's not

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presenting with you to sit there on the

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side and just count how many times a

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hole is said, I'm just like,

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and then we'll play it over under.

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Do you think it would be over or

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under thirty one and a half?

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Maybe under.

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You're going to say it in the intro,

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like I'm really playing like a cerebral.

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yeah yeah well there there's probably

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sixty slides so i would say then you

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could maybe i'm gonna say over i'm gonna

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take the if if the line is set

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at thirty one and a half i'll take

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the it's an hour it's ninety minutes

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Oh, over.

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Thirty one and a half.

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So thirty two or more.

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Yes.

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The over.

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Because you're going to you're going to

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play each of you're going to say in

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the intro when you're getting everybody

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quiet and settling everybody down and

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you're going to, of course, play with it.

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Otherwise, why put it in the title?

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Right.

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I don't want you guys to to to

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skew it,

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but I would like someone to count and

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just keep a little hash mark.

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And then how many times you say a

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whole professional presentation?

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Thirty one and a half.

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I'll take the over.

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So what's a half an a-hole then, Jimmy?

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No, no, no, no, no.

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So I learned this.

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So when you say thirty one and a

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half, because this way there's no push,

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there's no tie.

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Because if I said thirty one over thirty

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one, you'd be like,

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what if it's thirty one?

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So that's why you'll see.

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I learned this a couple of years ago,

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like betting lines of like seven and a

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half.

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And I'm like,

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why did you have to score?

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And then someone was like, dude,

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it's because they don't want it to be.

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You can have a half bath.

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You can't have half an a-hole.

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Hi.

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Oh.

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So have someone count.

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And then if I win, if it's over,

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you have to buy me a beer at

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the hotel bar.

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And if you win, if it's under,

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which I do not think it will be,

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I'll buy the beers.

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Deal.

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Did you say where and when this was?

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I missed that.

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It's going to be Thursday at a.m.

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in Hilton Ballroom D. Gosh,

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I love Ballroom D.

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It's my favorite ballroom.

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I feel like I've been,

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I think this is nine or ten CSMs

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for me.

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And I've been to all these cities,

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but I haven't really been to all these

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cities.

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I've been to Ballroom D, you know,

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Salon F, you know,

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Lobby Two and all that.

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Convention Center.

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Convention Center A. Salon ABX.

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Yeah.

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And that's fine.

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All right.

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So that's one presentation.

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What's number two?

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And then I get a little break,

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but I'm not even leaving the room.

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So, ten-thirty on Thursday,

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I'm giving a presentation called Hands-On

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in the Hospital,

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and it's about manual therapy and acute

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care.

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Wait a minute.

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You are quite literally back-to-back

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presentations in the same room?

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Yes.

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That has never happened.

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Has it?

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That's never happened?

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It has never happened to me.

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Last year when I had back-to-back

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presentations, I had to change buildings,

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but this time I'm just going to be

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in that same room.

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That's got to be some sort of record.

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Okay, and what's this one about?

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This one is hands-on in the hospital.

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So it's about using manual therapy in

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acute care.

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And so I'm presenting with Dr.

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Eric Fulmar,

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who is a professor of orthopedics at

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Northeastern University, and Dr.

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Chris White,

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who is an administrator at UC Health.

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And so he's a rehab director,

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like C-suite level director.

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So the premise is a professor,

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a clinician,

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and an administrator walk into a bar.

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There you go.

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And we're going to talk about like,

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we're going to have Eric talk about why,

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why you should be using manual therapy.

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I'm going to talk about how to use

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manual therapy in acute care.

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And Chris is going to talk really about

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those administrative barriers.

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Like what are those like top level

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situational barriers that discourage

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physical therapists from practicing at the

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top of their scope in this setting?

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Got it.

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And why are you uniquely qualified to talk

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about this?

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Maybe something that happened several

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months ago in Reno.

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Yeah.

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And it's ironic because Chris and I have

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given this presentation before because we

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both feel really strongly about it.

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And that was while I was doing my

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manual therapy fellowship.

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But I just finished my fellowship last

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year.

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And so I'm excited to bring that forward.

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And part of what I feel passionate about

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is I feel like

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most of the people that go and they

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get their found in their their fellowship

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in manual therapy they just work in

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outpatient clinics they don't take that

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clinical skill they don't take that

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clinical reasoning that fellowship

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training and apply it to different areas

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of physical therapy so my hope is that

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somebody listening whether they're an

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acute care therapist an outpatient

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therapist a home health therapist will be

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like oh i really could level up my

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skill set even if it doesn't seem like

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manual therapy is the skill set that i

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need i'd like to encourage you to

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open your mind about that a little bit.

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And maybe it's even just the clinical

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reasoning that you haven't had yet.

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I like that.

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All right.

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So that's your second presentation back to

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back Thursday morning.

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So you're going to get a lot of

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Rebecca.

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Yeah.

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What is the, what now,

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what is the third thing that you're doing

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now?

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Um, I have a poster.

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Nice.

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And let me pull up the title of

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it.

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So did you put it on screen or

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no?

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I don't know if it's ready to go

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up on the screen.

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While you're doing that,

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I would like to talk directly to the

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audience.

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Do you know what I do with posters

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now?

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I've been doing this for two years.

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I actually started at AOMT.

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when I first figured out how to get

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the ChatGPT app on my phone,

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I will take a photo of a poster

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and then I will say,

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explain this to me like a normal person.

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Give me a temporary language.

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And then it's like, I'm like,

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give it to me in three sentences.

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Give it to me in what, so what,

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now what?

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And then I'll say,

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give me a really interesting, not like,

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Give me a question to ask the person

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standing next to it that's thoughtful,

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that will get them talking.

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Because I feel a lot of times when

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you're standing next to a poster,

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people just come up there, well,

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why didn't you?

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And then you're playing goalie.

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You're like, well, bang.

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Or they say, tell me about your poster.

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And I'm like, oh.

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Which is also a shitty question.

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So I did that.

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So I took a picture of it,

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put it in ChatGPT, and I'm like,

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give me what, so what, now what?

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What can we learn?

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And give me a thoughtful question that

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would be exciting for the person standing

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next to the poster to answer.

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And Rebecca, it works pretty well.

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i'm gonna try it also i did a

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couple of videos maybe i'll do this again

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i take a picture of a poster and

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then i say write me a short form

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video script in the style of the cat

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in the hat or eminem or something and

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then i make that a script and then

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i explain the video explain the poster in

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a video because that's where science

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should go like the same thing that's where

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science should go i love that why wouldn't

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science all right so tell me about your

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poster

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The poster is called Early Touchpoint,

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Lasting Impact,

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Orthopedic Physical Therapy from the

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Emergency Department to Return to Sport.

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And the story behind this is there was

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a student last year at CSM who was

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at one of the events and experienced an

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ankle fracture and dislocation at CSM.

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Oh, at CSM.

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At CSM, at one of the social events,

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unfortunately.

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It was a dodgeball injury.

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I didn't hear about this.

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Yeah.

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Uh, so I originally,

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we had helped to call our content like

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duck, dive, dodge, you know,

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but so w the poster really follows his

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journey from like that immediate triage by

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physical therapists,

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because they were the people right there

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when that ankle broke through that triage

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in the emergency department,

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surgical stabilization,

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and then back to sport.

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And so a year later,

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what happened from that point of injury to

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now.

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So it kind of explores that.

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And you'll get to see the examination

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findings from like point of impact,

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so to speak, to discharge.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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So I'm kind of excited about that.

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Good.

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When is the poster sessions?

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There's several poster sessions.

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When is yours?

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It's at twelve on Thursday.

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So I finished.

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You are going to need a power bar

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on Thursday.

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Like Thursday.

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I am.

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It's unfortunate.

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Why?

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Because it's not banging out.

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I know,

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but I actually feel like I would rather

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like spread it out a little bit.

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Like I don't really get anxious about

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presenting.

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So that that doesn't bother me.

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But yeah.

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think it would be nice to have like

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a little recharge break yeah well listen

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you're on state you're the star of the

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show so stars there's no uh rest for

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the weary no rest for the stars wicked

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uh so that's three and then you said

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the working session what when is that what

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is it where is it what when where

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okay so that is i think it's through

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the academy of home health

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Good.

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And it is an APTA emergency and disaster

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management group.

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So it's like a working group.

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And that is through home health, huh?

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That's pretty cool.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which I actually think really makes a lot

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of sense.

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If you think about if there's like a

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massive disaster.

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Oh, you're going to go to them.

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Yeah.

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And it's also folks from the VA are

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participating in that people from all

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different academies are participating in

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it.

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We're just, uh, that's who's hosting it.

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So it's going to be,

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it's going to be really exciting.

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Um, who's with you on that?

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So I am,

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I'm making them the physician that's

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presenting with me go.

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Cause I, he does,

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he coordinates disaster response for the

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entire state of Arkansas.

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What is his name again?

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Brandon more Shetty.

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That's cool.

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So we're going to pull him into that.

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And then Chris White,

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who I'm also presenting with,

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he's a military PT.

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So I'm going to leverage some of his

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expertise in that group as well.

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But then there's a lot of great PTs

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that are participating in that.

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Megan Mitchell,

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who's a disaster relief PT,

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is going to help lead that.

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Yeah.

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And then...

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James Gosney,

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who is really coordinating this,

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he's a PTA, but he's also a physician.

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So he's an MD, PTA, MPH.

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So he's got a very,

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very cool background and he works for the

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VA.

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And so he's really pulling this together.

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So it's going to be talking about the

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role of the physical therapist and

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physical therapist assistant in disaster

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management.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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I am writing down a note to come

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back to because as this episode is titled

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Physical Therapist with Limited Attention

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Span,

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I want to make sure I come back

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to this because I have an idea.

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But let's play a game of – or

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not really a game.

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What is on your not being the star

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list?

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What are you like,

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I'm going to see this and why?

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What are you like, boom,

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it's on my calendar?

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Yeah, so Thursday night,

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I would like to invite everybody to the

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emergency department happy hour.

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Oh, where's that?

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So that is going to be at a

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brewery.

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And I meant to pull it up when

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you asked me about it.

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It is a Ballast Point Brewing in Anaheim

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at seven thirty p.m.

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on that Thursday.

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So I'll be ready for a drink.

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And I can't wait to have that

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conversation.

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And as the screen says,

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great PT conversations on tap.

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Best conversations happen at happy hour.

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I'm going to steal your line for that.

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And that's where we're going to be.

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good um but other things that i'm excited

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about going to i'm really i haven't had

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a chance to really look at the sessions

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that i'm going to but i am participating

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in pt in the community which is community

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service in anaheim so i'm looking forward

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to some of those activities and then

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there's a lot of ed specific content that

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i'm looking forward to and i posted that

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on my instagram so if anybody's like how

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do i find the ed content you can

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find it on my instagram what is so

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for people who don't know

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Feating the community.

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How would you present it to someone who's

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like,

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I have no idea what those words together

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mean?

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Patrick Berger, one of the people.

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I feel like he's more of a face.

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Patrick Berger really created this.

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And it was really this concept of we're

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bringing eighteen thousand physical

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therapists to the community.

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what are we doing for the community?

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And we talk about transforming society.

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And I always say,

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how are we going to ever do that

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if we don't go to society?

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So this is Patrick's way of getting

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physical therapists to society.

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And so there are a lot of events

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that are offsite within the actual

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community.

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And then there are some events that you

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can participate in at, at CSM.

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Like,

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so I'm going to be making peanut butter

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and jelly sandwiches for a shelter.

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and hygiene kits for a shelter.

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And so those things will go out to

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those community resources,

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but there are some other events as well

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where you can actually volunteer,

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but I think those are full already.

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Yeah,

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so it's a way for PTs to give

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back a structured,

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what I think PT in the community really

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is is a logistics operation that you then

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get to plug in and you're the energy

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that runs the engine, right?

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So Patrick is like, I'll find the need,

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I'll find the who,

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with the what and then I'll show you

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the how, where, and the when.

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You show up, you do,

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because we need doing.

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I had a similar...

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driver uh with party with a purpose which

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was an event i did uh in san

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diego a couple years ago which was i

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was looking at csm saying this is awesome

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look how i mean dude i look i

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love me a good party right like but

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at the end of it i was like

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what did we change what did we do

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when we're done and next week and the

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uh you know united auto workers come to

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town and they use the conference center

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did we change the local community at all?

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Like,

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is it just like another group coming in

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and check in and check out and dinner

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reservations?

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So party with a purpose for me was

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like,

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I know these companies are going to spend

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truckloads of money.

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And this is great.

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Like that's an economic boost to the

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community.

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My pitch was I can spend your money

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better.

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So if you're going to spend two thousand,

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five thousand,

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ten thousand dollars on after hours stuff,

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I'll spend it.

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I'll take your six grand and your eleven

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grand and your twenty grand and your this

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and your this.

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I'll put it together like a snowball.

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And then I rented out the San Diego

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Children's Museum.

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I found a badass eighties band.

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I got liquor, I got food.

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So I raised, I think,

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one hundred and twenty five thousand spent

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ninety.

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And that part was fun.

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I was like, let's do this.

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But the goal was the goal was throw

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a badass party like I had to hit

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that goal.

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Boom.

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Secondary goal was see how much money can

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be left over to give away.

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Now, some people would say flip them.

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My purpose was the purpose.

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but party with a purpose in that order,

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you have to hit the party first or

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else when, not if,

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but when I do this again and I

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knock on the door of all the people,

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the sponsors,

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it wasn't hard to get people to come

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eat, drink, be married.

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That wasn't the hard part.

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The hard part is getting the money.

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But now I have a track record.

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Cause I was like,

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remember that thing I promised to do and

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did,

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I'm going to do that again

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And if you have the budget,

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you're gonna give it to me, probably,

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or at least I have a chance.

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So anyway,

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it had to be a bad-ass party and

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it had to have a purpose.

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So we gave away thirty grand or whatever

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the difference is between ninety and one

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hundred twenty-five to three different

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organizations.

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I let the three biggest donation givers

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pick choose your own adventure i i it's

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not that i didn't care what the charity

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was it had to be a charity that's

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what i cared about i don't care what

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one so a a uh academy of leadership

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and innovation did the uh one more wave

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which taught wounded vets how to surf uh

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academy of leadership uh geriatric academy

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of geriatric physical therapy donated it

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to a geriatric research study for

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the foundation for physical therapy

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research.

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So they took their money and gave it

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to a research nonprofit,

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which I'm also on the board of trustees.

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So I was pretty excited about that.

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That wasn't my call though.

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And then the third ATI has their own

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ATI foundation that gives away free pro

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bono care.

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So that fueled hundreds,

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if not thousands of PT interactions paid

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for it.

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So that was pretty cool.

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So I'm not officially announcing it now

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because who the hell listens to a podcast

00:20:39.227 --> 00:20:39.446
anyway?

00:20:39.467 --> 00:20:39.926
You're not listening.

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It's just me and Rebecca talking to each

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other.

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I'll be in Philly is next year.

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I'm doing it again.

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I'm doing it again.

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Cause now my head's a little more clear

00:20:47.236 --> 00:20:47.736
personally.

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I had some other family stuff going on

00:20:49.037 --> 00:20:49.576
last two years.

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I'll do it again.

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I'll do it in Philly.

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Party with a purpose to the sequel.

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It's back.

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Well,

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I would encourage you to like make ways

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for little people like me to be involved

00:21:01.303 --> 00:21:03.404
because I am a sponsor of PT in

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the community.

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Yeah.

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Am I like their highest dollar sponsor?

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Of course not.

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But like,

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I feel like my little contribution is

00:21:10.347 --> 00:21:10.828
still welcome.

00:21:10.848 --> 00:21:11.148
So yeah.

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Well, then I talked to this.

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You and I were drinking with Patrick a

00:21:15.814 --> 00:21:16.374
few weeks ago.

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I'm like, well,

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then why don't I make a portion of

00:21:19.075 --> 00:21:21.536
Party with a Purpose fuel the next year's

00:21:21.715 --> 00:21:22.557
PT in the community?

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Like I'll always work a year ahead instead

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of I hope the money will come.

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Here it is, you know,

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eleven and a half months in advance.

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So I'm in charge.

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I am the board.

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There's no board of Party with a Purpose.

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It's just a network with a microphone.

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I'll make part of the proceeds be PT

00:21:42.315 --> 00:21:42.795
in the community.

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We'll just do it.

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You can just do things.

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I love that.

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You're allowed to just do things.

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And then people will be like, oh,

00:21:48.674 --> 00:21:49.315
you're not allowed to do that.

00:21:49.335 --> 00:21:49.675
And I'm like,

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you're not the boss of me.

00:21:51.215 --> 00:21:52.836
That's actually a valid defense.

00:21:53.436 --> 00:21:54.978
Like seven-year-olds have it figured out.

00:21:55.238 --> 00:21:56.838
When someone's like on LinkedIn,

00:21:57.078 --> 00:21:57.778
you can't do that.

00:21:57.858 --> 00:21:58.398
And I'm like, well,

00:21:58.419 --> 00:21:59.000
you're not the boss of me.

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So I am going to do that.

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I am going to do that.

00:22:04.740 --> 00:22:05.981
Can I tell you one more thing that

00:22:06.001 --> 00:22:07.182
I'm excited about at CSM?

00:22:07.383 --> 00:22:08.983
You can tell me lots of things that

00:22:09.003 --> 00:22:10.025
you're excited about at CSM.

00:22:10.045 --> 00:22:10.605
We got lots of time.

00:22:10.625 --> 00:22:15.048
So I'm going to do an interview with

00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:19.891
some folks at CSM,

00:22:19.931 --> 00:22:21.471
and I'm trying to figure out what the

00:22:21.551 --> 00:22:22.353
title of it is,

00:22:22.413 --> 00:22:25.173
but they're really highlighting

00:22:25.575 --> 00:22:27.036
Filipino-trained physical therapists.

00:22:27.056 --> 00:22:27.375
Oh, yeah.

00:22:28.175 --> 00:22:29.917
And I'm really excited about that.

00:22:30.057 --> 00:22:31.357
And one of the things that's going to

00:22:31.377 --> 00:22:32.719
be part of the interview is that I

00:22:32.739 --> 00:22:33.599
get to try snaps.

00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.780
snacks yes i get to try a bunch

00:22:36.820 --> 00:22:38.182
of different snacks from the philippines

00:22:39.182 --> 00:22:41.442
how exciting is that i mean honestly you

00:22:41.462 --> 00:22:43.344
had me in snacks i mean i've been

00:22:43.384 --> 00:22:45.325
interviewed by you multiple times and i've

00:22:45.365 --> 00:22:47.605
never once gotten a snack so i bring

00:22:47.665 --> 00:22:52.307
alcohol though just gonna leave that there

00:22:52.468 --> 00:22:54.689
with but you've never once presented me

00:22:54.709 --> 00:22:57.029
with a flight of snacks that's true who's

00:22:57.289 --> 00:22:58.431
who is who are these people who are

00:22:58.451 --> 00:22:58.730
the people

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Ben Aguila is going to interview me,

00:23:01.366 --> 00:23:03.388
and I was texting with him.

00:23:03.689 --> 00:23:04.130
Aguila.

00:23:04.790 --> 00:23:05.250
Aguila.

00:23:05.411 --> 00:23:06.132
Sorry, Ben.

00:23:06.152 --> 00:23:06.792
It's okay.

00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:11.162
I realized the other day that his podcast

00:23:11.863 --> 00:23:13.463
that he used to do for his clinic

00:23:13.604 --> 00:23:15.724
was the first podcast I was ever on.

00:23:16.145 --> 00:23:16.465
Really?

00:23:16.726 --> 00:23:16.945
Yeah.

00:23:17.006 --> 00:23:17.226
Yes.

00:23:17.346 --> 00:23:18.688
And maybe two people listen to it.

00:23:18.708 --> 00:23:19.468
Like, I don't know.

00:23:19.587 --> 00:23:21.009
I don't know how many people listen to

00:23:21.068 --> 00:23:21.750
it, but like,

00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:24.372
I just remember I was so scared to

00:23:24.392 --> 00:23:24.852
be on that.

00:23:24.872 --> 00:23:26.313
And that was probably the first podcast I

00:23:26.333 --> 00:23:26.873
was ever on.

00:23:26.893 --> 00:23:28.974
So I'm excited to be interviewed by Ben

00:23:28.994 --> 00:23:31.196
again and like have that kind of come

00:23:31.217 --> 00:23:32.538
full circle.

00:23:32.637 --> 00:23:34.759
Yeah.

00:23:34.778 --> 00:23:35.599
So you're going to do that.

00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.961
So you're interviewing them.

00:23:39.731 --> 00:23:41.093
They're interviewing me because they're

00:23:41.113 --> 00:23:44.374
sharing some information around APTA and

00:23:44.394 --> 00:23:45.614
they're sharing information around the

00:23:45.634 --> 00:23:47.374
emergency department and they're part of

00:23:47.413 --> 00:23:49.134
the Academy of Leadership and Innovation.

00:23:49.174 --> 00:23:51.595
ALI.

00:23:51.674 --> 00:23:52.134
Okay, good.

00:23:52.154 --> 00:23:53.395
That's one other thing that you're excited

00:23:53.435 --> 00:23:53.635
about.

00:23:53.776 --> 00:23:54.415
Anything else?

00:23:54.435 --> 00:23:54.576
I mean,

00:23:54.596 --> 00:23:55.955
this is sort of our Super Bowl.

00:23:56.056 --> 00:23:57.156
It's part learning.

00:23:57.257 --> 00:23:58.336
It's part social event.

00:23:58.396 --> 00:23:59.497
I mean, you have to,

00:23:59.537 --> 00:24:01.557
saying it's not is just disingenuous.

00:24:01.637 --> 00:24:02.038
It is.

00:24:02.441 --> 00:24:05.182
Well, you know, Wednesday,

00:24:05.261 --> 00:24:07.002
I'll spend the entire day in meetings as

00:24:07.042 --> 00:24:08.763
part of my role as APTA president.

00:24:09.304 --> 00:24:12.445
And really what happens there is the first

00:24:12.465 --> 00:24:14.105
part of the day is leadership meetings.

00:24:14.145 --> 00:24:15.826
And that involves like the board.

00:24:15.946 --> 00:24:18.048
It involves all the chapter presidents,

00:24:18.107 --> 00:24:19.249
all the academy presidents,

00:24:19.729 --> 00:24:20.890
all the people that are on appointed

00:24:20.910 --> 00:24:23.270
committees so that all of those like

00:24:23.351 --> 00:24:24.691
leaders are in the same room.

00:24:25.030 --> 00:24:25.971
That's a smart idea.

00:24:26.332 --> 00:24:26.811
It is.

00:24:26.991 --> 00:24:27.633
And I like...

00:24:28.853 --> 00:24:29.393
I think so.

00:24:29.873 --> 00:24:32.993
And they really deliver some information,

00:24:33.013 --> 00:24:34.634
but also receive information.

00:24:35.255 --> 00:24:37.194
And usually there's a panel on a specific

00:24:37.234 --> 00:24:38.935
topic that's really important and you get

00:24:38.955 --> 00:24:40.635
to hear from other chapters or other

00:24:40.675 --> 00:24:41.175
academies.

00:24:41.256 --> 00:24:42.516
And then in the afternoon,

00:24:42.957 --> 00:24:44.457
it's just chapter presidents.

00:24:45.116 --> 00:24:46.958
And what I like about that is like,

00:24:47.137 --> 00:24:47.978
realistically, like,

00:24:48.057 --> 00:24:48.978
I don't know what I'm doing.

00:24:49.097 --> 00:24:50.577
I'm showing up and I'm doing my best.

00:24:50.698 --> 00:24:52.638
And so to have an entire room of

00:24:52.778 --> 00:24:54.179
other people that are doing the same

00:24:54.219 --> 00:24:56.779
thing, the like learning process,

00:24:57.717 --> 00:24:59.617
is so helpful and the brainstorming is

00:24:59.637 --> 00:25:00.998
really helpful and the like, Hey,

00:25:01.018 --> 00:25:01.679
what are you doing?

00:25:01.719 --> 00:25:02.439
And how's that going?

00:25:02.459 --> 00:25:03.579
And what did you do that worked?

00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:04.759
And like, what are you doing?

00:25:04.779 --> 00:25:07.161
That's not working so that we're all like

00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:09.082
not building the plane while we're flying

00:25:09.142 --> 00:25:09.321
it.

00:25:09.741 --> 00:25:09.882
Yeah.

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Because while there is some training,

00:25:12.163 --> 00:25:14.765
there's not a lot of guidance.

00:25:15.045 --> 00:25:15.305
No.

00:25:15.984 --> 00:25:20.287
And you all pretty much have similar

00:25:20.326 --> 00:25:20.767
problems.

00:25:20.787 --> 00:25:22.127
I mean, I'm sure there's some differences,

00:25:22.147 --> 00:25:22.208
but,

00:25:22.653 --> 00:25:24.335
They do kind of divide us up sometimes

00:25:24.375 --> 00:25:25.096
by size.

00:25:25.236 --> 00:25:27.238
So like super small chapters versus

00:25:27.298 --> 00:25:29.299
midsize versus large size chapters because

00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:30.480
we have different problems.

00:25:30.980 --> 00:25:32.041
What would you consider Colorado?

00:25:32.082 --> 00:25:32.481
Where are you?

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I don't know the math.

00:25:34.324 --> 00:25:36.185
So California, Florida, New York,

00:25:36.365 --> 00:25:39.428
Illinois, Pennsylvania, Texas, probably.

00:25:40.249 --> 00:25:41.549
Yeah, those are some of the bigger ones.

00:25:41.609 --> 00:25:42.711
And then you've got your states like

00:25:42.750 --> 00:25:44.393
Wyoming and South Dakota and stuff that

00:25:44.413 --> 00:25:46.094
are like little smaller ones.

00:25:48.016 --> 00:25:49.576
I would say that the smaller ones are

00:25:49.596 --> 00:25:50.837
probably –

00:25:51.993 --> 00:25:54.015
just strategic it's harder for them to

00:25:54.055 --> 00:25:55.175
solve any of the problem like because

00:25:55.195 --> 00:25:58.018
because they're so you know because like

00:25:58.038 --> 00:25:59.598
they're so you know if you're sparse like

00:25:59.699 --> 00:26:01.681
the resource it's just less resources so

00:26:01.701 --> 00:26:04.281
you're out resourced you know what i mean

00:26:04.321 --> 00:26:05.943
more money more problems but like less

00:26:06.003 --> 00:26:08.704
money more problems also right less money

00:26:08.744 --> 00:26:10.567
less solutions like yeah you know yeah

00:26:10.586 --> 00:26:12.367
maybe that's better and less people like

00:26:12.407 --> 00:26:13.769
less people to pull from and when you

00:26:13.788 --> 00:26:16.691
think about running a volunteer board yeah

00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:19.772
your best resource are volunteers and so

00:26:19.792 --> 00:26:20.733
how many people are on your board

00:26:22.303 --> 00:26:24.304
Maybe fifteen, I feel like.

00:26:24.964 --> 00:26:25.904
Is that normal?

00:26:27.226 --> 00:26:27.425
Well,

00:26:27.506 --> 00:26:28.665
we have like an executive committee and

00:26:28.685 --> 00:26:29.646
then we have a full board,

00:26:29.707 --> 00:26:30.467
but we have like,

00:26:30.826 --> 00:26:32.107
it's just based on our bylaws.

00:26:32.147 --> 00:26:33.769
But I actually think that the people that

00:26:33.788 --> 00:26:35.130
are in the room at those board meetings

00:26:35.190 --> 00:26:35.609
are great.

00:26:35.630 --> 00:26:37.411
I don't disagree with that.

00:26:38.852 --> 00:26:40.451
I mean, like the roles, I'm not,

00:26:40.471 --> 00:26:41.853
and the people obviously are great,

00:26:42.373 --> 00:26:43.993
but like the specific roles that are

00:26:44.034 --> 00:26:44.835
represented in there,

00:26:45.474 --> 00:26:48.476
it makes lighter work.

00:26:48.536 --> 00:26:50.297
Yeah, more hands make light work.

00:26:53.213 --> 00:26:54.376
And then we've talked about this before,

00:26:54.396 --> 00:26:55.759
but maybe it'll be an update.

00:26:56.260 --> 00:26:58.244
What are the big strategic goals for

00:26:58.285 --> 00:26:58.846
Colorado?

00:26:59.207 --> 00:27:00.388
And where are you in the presidency?

00:27:00.430 --> 00:27:01.832
It's three years, so you're halfway.

00:27:02.307 --> 00:27:03.548
It's four years.

00:27:04.087 --> 00:27:05.469
There's a president-elect year.

00:27:05.548 --> 00:27:08.832
And so I am halfway now.

00:27:09.092 --> 00:27:10.553
So I did my president-elect year,

00:27:10.593 --> 00:27:11.453
my first year as president.

00:27:11.473 --> 00:27:12.253
So this is my second year.

00:27:12.294 --> 00:27:15.396
So I graduate in the fall of twenty

00:27:15.416 --> 00:27:15.916
twenty seven.

00:27:15.936 --> 00:27:17.238
Got it.

00:27:17.337 --> 00:27:17.778
Our biggest,

00:27:18.398 --> 00:27:19.859
our legislative season just started.

00:27:19.900 --> 00:27:21.641
So our biggest legislative priorities

00:27:21.701 --> 00:27:22.701
right now are

00:27:23.962 --> 00:27:24.644
MPPR,

00:27:24.703 --> 00:27:26.125
which people are familiar with from a

00:27:26.184 --> 00:27:27.184
Medicare perspective,

00:27:27.384 --> 00:27:28.926
our state tried to do that for Medicaid

00:27:28.987 --> 00:27:29.586
last year.

00:27:30.166 --> 00:27:34.130
And we are codifying this year into law

00:27:34.190 --> 00:27:35.530
that they're not allowed to do that.

00:27:35.770 --> 00:27:37.592
So hopefully that will be a thing that

00:27:37.612 --> 00:27:39.334
will prevent them from ever going back to

00:27:39.374 --> 00:27:41.275
that because the Division of Insurance was

00:27:41.315 --> 00:27:41.734
kind of like, well,

00:27:41.755 --> 00:27:43.155
we could just do that whenever we want.

00:27:44.517 --> 00:27:44.977
Let's not do that.

00:27:45.738 --> 00:27:47.199
And then the other piece we want to

00:27:47.318 --> 00:27:49.520
practice focus on a little bit of practice

00:27:49.580 --> 00:27:50.381
expansion.

00:27:50.422 --> 00:27:52.762
We are going for sports physicals to be

00:27:52.843 --> 00:27:54.505
one of the health care providers that can

00:27:54.684 --> 00:27:56.905
perform sports physicals and that

00:27:58.226 --> 00:27:59.727
We're doing that for a variety of reasons.

00:27:59.928 --> 00:28:01.088
One is increased quality,

00:28:01.169 --> 00:28:02.970
increased access for our athletes.

00:28:03.431 --> 00:28:03.631
Two,

00:28:03.671 --> 00:28:06.153
it's a revenue stream for our therapists.

00:28:06.192 --> 00:28:06.512
Three,

00:28:06.553 --> 00:28:08.194
like there's no reason if you look at

00:28:08.214 --> 00:28:09.836
the form why a physical therapist isn't

00:28:09.875 --> 00:28:10.916
trained to complete that.

00:28:11.217 --> 00:28:12.959
Chiropractors in our state are able to do

00:28:12.999 --> 00:28:13.239
that.

00:28:13.659 --> 00:28:15.740
So we've been collaborating with all the

00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:17.323
different health care providers behind the

00:28:17.363 --> 00:28:19.064
scenes to try and move that forward.

00:28:19.084 --> 00:28:20.925
And I think we'll be successful with that.

00:28:21.749 --> 00:28:23.109
We've gotten a little bit of pushback.

00:28:23.849 --> 00:28:24.990
And then this last week,

00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:26.471
our occupational therapist actually went

00:28:26.490 --> 00:28:28.311
to the legislature for dry needling and

00:28:28.332 --> 00:28:30.752
we've been supporting them with that.

00:28:30.833 --> 00:28:33.753
All these things that come up in Facebook

00:28:34.114 --> 00:28:36.474
comment sections about the issues that

00:28:36.494 --> 00:28:37.194
you're talking about,

00:28:37.516 --> 00:28:39.155
like I'm glad that they're there,

00:28:39.576 --> 00:28:40.817
but that's not how they get changed.

00:28:41.237 --> 00:28:43.298
Like no legislator is in the

00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:47.090
random facebook group for pts that you're

00:28:47.191 --> 00:28:49.092
in reading the comments that you can rage

00:28:49.152 --> 00:28:50.633
as hard you could make as many great

00:28:50.673 --> 00:28:55.135
points as you want that's not how change

00:28:55.435 --> 00:28:58.718
happens i'm very sorry but and the other

00:28:58.738 --> 00:29:01.298
thing what i'll tell you is frustrating to

00:29:01.318 --> 00:29:02.619
me about those comment sections

00:29:03.529 --> 00:29:05.652
is that realistically the APTA is just

00:29:05.711 --> 00:29:06.613
volunteers like me,

00:29:06.653 --> 00:29:08.894
people with three kids and three jobs who

00:29:08.934 --> 00:29:11.537
are going to meetings five times a week,

00:29:11.896 --> 00:29:13.419
trying to move these legislative

00:29:13.439 --> 00:29:14.259
priorities forward,

00:29:14.278 --> 00:29:15.599
trying to protect your practice,

00:29:15.641 --> 00:29:17.102
trying to also on top of that,

00:29:17.201 --> 00:29:19.864
offer you CEUs and discounts and other

00:29:19.884 --> 00:29:20.404
things like that.

00:29:20.444 --> 00:29:21.665
But realistically,

00:29:21.685 --> 00:29:23.166
like the work is happening for you,

00:29:23.186 --> 00:29:24.768
whether you see that work or not.

00:29:25.368 --> 00:29:27.691
And sometimes I will tell you as a

00:29:27.730 --> 00:29:28.171
volunteer,

00:29:28.191 --> 00:29:30.173
reading those comments sections is really

00:29:30.192 --> 00:29:30.794
discouraging.

00:29:32.048 --> 00:29:34.173
And it makes me feel like the work

00:29:35.673 --> 00:29:38.835
isn't doesn't matter to our members even

00:29:38.875 --> 00:29:41.717
though i know that it does yeah yeah

00:29:41.817 --> 00:29:43.277
i mean i'll give you advice i mean

00:29:43.356 --> 00:29:45.057
i get sucked up in comment sections i've

00:29:45.097 --> 00:29:46.719
taken i take crap all the time but

00:29:46.739 --> 00:29:48.179
that means i'm saying something that

00:29:48.219 --> 00:29:50.079
matters right like because if you if

00:29:50.099 --> 00:29:51.280
you're not if you don't have anybody who

00:29:51.340 --> 00:29:52.461
dislikes what you're doing it means you're

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.242
not doing anything no no rock boat no

00:29:55.323 --> 00:29:58.104
ripples um those people were never going

00:29:58.124 --> 00:29:59.403
to be in the arena anyway like i

00:29:59.423 --> 00:30:01.244
would encourage you to read fd you've read

00:30:01.464 --> 00:30:02.786
fdr's man in the arena right

00:30:04.357 --> 00:30:05.157
Are you kidding me?

00:30:05.338 --> 00:30:06.959
Oh, you'll love it.

00:30:07.038 --> 00:30:09.320
It's a poem or a short story,

00:30:09.361 --> 00:30:11.642
but he's like, I'll write that down.

00:30:12.142 --> 00:30:13.962
It's all about, it's, it's the, it's not,

00:30:14.022 --> 00:30:15.203
it's not the critic who counts.

00:30:15.223 --> 00:30:16.263
It's the man in the arena.

00:30:17.084 --> 00:30:18.164
It's like, you're in the arena.

00:30:18.325 --> 00:30:18.724
So it's like,

00:30:19.005 --> 00:30:21.026
you can lob tomatoes from the top roof.

00:30:21.186 --> 00:30:22.146
All you know, the top row,

00:30:22.326 --> 00:30:23.027
all you want.

00:30:23.067 --> 00:30:23.728
You're not in the arena.

00:30:24.248 --> 00:30:25.169
Like, have you fought?

00:30:25.548 --> 00:30:28.390
You can have opinions are like a holes.

00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:28.569
Hi.

00:30:28.589 --> 00:30:31.030
Oh, bring it back.

00:30:31.092 --> 00:30:31.832
Everybody's got one.

00:30:31.872 --> 00:30:33.853
And it's usually full up something.

00:30:34.481 --> 00:30:35.343
Well, I have to tell you,

00:30:35.423 --> 00:30:37.084
I've actually been really getting great

00:30:37.124 --> 00:30:38.945
feedback from our members lately.

00:30:39.165 --> 00:30:40.907
And even people who are non-members,

00:30:40.948 --> 00:30:42.489
like I ran into a member of mine

00:30:42.628 --> 00:30:44.190
at Graham Sessions and she was like,

00:30:44.250 --> 00:30:45.351
thank you for what you're doing.

00:30:45.391 --> 00:30:46.813
Like we can see the difference that it's

00:30:46.853 --> 00:30:47.212
making.

00:30:47.613 --> 00:30:48.834
Your board is extraordinary.

00:30:49.194 --> 00:30:50.695
And I would absolutely agree with that.

00:30:50.756 --> 00:30:51.056
So,

00:30:51.576 --> 00:30:54.578
and I had another incident where I was

00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:57.422
at a PT clinic with my son and

00:30:57.642 --> 00:30:59.262
another physical therapist came up to me

00:30:59.282 --> 00:30:59.824
and he's like, oh,

00:30:59.884 --> 00:31:01.464
I heard you're the APTA president.

00:31:01.545 --> 00:31:01.965
And I was like,

00:31:02.711 --> 00:31:03.191
Oh no.

00:31:03.352 --> 00:31:04.471
Like I like braced myself.

00:31:04.511 --> 00:31:05.192
I was like, first of all,

00:31:05.212 --> 00:31:06.693
this is kind of awkward timing and I'm

00:31:06.713 --> 00:31:08.234
not like in APTA mode.

00:31:08.275 --> 00:31:09.875
And it kind of like made me a

00:31:09.895 --> 00:31:10.656
little bit nervous.

00:31:10.957 --> 00:31:11.656
And I just like,

00:31:11.696 --> 00:31:12.798
I was like ready for it.

00:31:12.837 --> 00:31:13.278
And he said,

00:31:13.298 --> 00:31:14.660
I just want to say thank you.

00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:15.440
Like,

00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:16.520
thank you so much for all the hard

00:31:16.540 --> 00:31:16.621
work.

00:31:16.641 --> 00:31:18.642
And I was like, wow.

00:31:18.662 --> 00:31:20.163
Cause usually those are not the comments,

00:31:20.182 --> 00:31:20.423
right?

00:31:20.443 --> 00:31:23.065
You usually get more of the complaints.

00:31:23.665 --> 00:31:25.767
So I was thrilled to go home and

00:31:25.886 --> 00:31:27.729
email my entire board and say the work

00:31:27.749 --> 00:31:29.529
you're doing matters and people are

00:31:29.589 --> 00:31:30.089
noticing it.

00:31:30.170 --> 00:31:30.730
And thank you.

00:31:30.770 --> 00:31:32.251
Like, thank you for your time and effort.

00:31:32.676 --> 00:31:33.938
So there's a parallel too, right?

00:31:33.978 --> 00:31:34.598
Yesterday was,

00:31:34.618 --> 00:31:35.598
I don't know if you saw this.

00:31:35.618 --> 00:31:36.779
There was a football game yesterday.

00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:37.661
It was a,

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:39.501
I saw that a bad bunny concert.

00:31:39.521 --> 00:31:40.282
It's televised.

00:31:40.502 --> 00:31:42.183
It was a football game played before and

00:31:42.223 --> 00:31:44.205
after a bad buddy.

00:31:44.445 --> 00:31:47.268
There was an alternate halftime show.

00:31:47.689 --> 00:31:48.288
Here's the thing.

00:31:48.788 --> 00:31:49.269
Great.

00:31:51.411 --> 00:31:51.892
Yeah.

00:31:51.912 --> 00:31:53.992
There is also an alternate version of

00:31:54.153 --> 00:31:54.814
APTA.

00:31:55.034 --> 00:31:55.855
And here's what I think.

00:31:55.875 --> 00:31:56.494
Great.

00:31:56.555 --> 00:31:57.135
Great.

00:31:57.976 --> 00:31:58.416
Great.

00:31:59.849 --> 00:32:02.392
I have taken crap because I ask questions.

00:32:02.632 --> 00:32:03.633
Jimmy's a question asker.

00:32:03.653 --> 00:32:05.074
You are.

00:32:05.094 --> 00:32:07.275
I was a question asker at six,

00:32:07.796 --> 00:32:09.115
at sixteen, at twenty-six.

00:32:09.297 --> 00:32:10.557
I have a degree, this will shock you,

00:32:10.798 --> 00:32:11.498
in journalism.

00:32:12.038 --> 00:32:12.878
How did that fit?

00:32:13.278 --> 00:32:13.479
Right?

00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.060
I got my new NPR shirt.

00:32:16.961 --> 00:32:18.423
You can figure out what AF stands for.

00:32:18.643 --> 00:32:19.963
So I am all about the questions.

00:32:21.126 --> 00:32:21.708
And the answers.

00:32:22.307 --> 00:32:23.588
So if you want to have a different

00:32:23.628 --> 00:32:25.290
Super Bowl show, great.

00:32:26.131 --> 00:32:26.592
Great.

00:32:26.852 --> 00:32:27.392
Do that.

00:32:28.292 --> 00:32:31.276
If you're an alternate version of APTA,

00:32:31.596 --> 00:32:32.076
great.

00:32:32.477 --> 00:32:32.876
Do that.

00:32:33.176 --> 00:32:34.618
Here's my only rub.

00:32:35.098 --> 00:32:36.619
If I ask you a question and you

00:32:36.660 --> 00:32:37.721
give me a non-answer,

00:32:39.603 --> 00:32:40.743
I'm not going to stop asking that

00:32:40.784 --> 00:32:41.084
question.

00:32:41.104 --> 00:32:41.183
Yes.

00:32:43.325 --> 00:32:44.105
I'm not going to do it.

00:32:45.385 --> 00:32:47.886
If you don't like the APTA, don't join.

00:32:49.127 --> 00:32:49.387
Right now,

00:32:49.407 --> 00:32:50.667
I have a poll going on on LinkedIn

00:32:50.688 --> 00:32:51.509
and Facebook right now.

00:32:51.709 --> 00:32:52.548
I'm just asking people,

00:32:52.909 --> 00:32:53.750
are you an APTA member?

00:32:53.769 --> 00:32:54.130
Yes or no?

00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:54.670
Just it.

00:32:54.690 --> 00:32:55.990
That's it.

00:32:56.070 --> 00:32:57.872
And then if they go in the comment

00:32:57.912 --> 00:32:59.031
section, I did not prompt it,

00:32:59.271 --> 00:33:00.792
but people go in the comment section and

00:33:00.813 --> 00:33:02.894
they say why they're not or why they

00:33:02.953 --> 00:33:03.134
are.

00:33:03.834 --> 00:33:05.214
And then I just simply keep asking

00:33:05.255 --> 00:33:05.634
questions.

00:33:06.035 --> 00:33:06.576
One of them was like,

00:33:06.615 --> 00:33:07.316
I've been a member since

00:33:09.528 --> 00:33:12.049
leaving and i said awesome why no but

00:33:12.089 --> 00:33:14.330
hold on don't cover your face why and

00:33:14.371 --> 00:33:17.653
she's like well i was brought into it

00:33:17.692 --> 00:33:18.814
as a student because i was told i

00:33:18.854 --> 00:33:21.355
had to and i own a business now

00:33:21.375 --> 00:33:22.796
and i don't feel that they're doing enough

00:33:22.836 --> 00:33:25.718
for reimbursement and i wrote back that

00:33:25.738 --> 00:33:27.719
sounds fair let me ask you this what

00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:28.920
was your expectation

00:33:29.747 --> 00:33:31.508
What did you think when you write the

00:33:31.548 --> 00:33:32.288
check every year?

00:33:32.647 --> 00:33:34.229
Now it's just auto deposit or auto

00:33:34.249 --> 00:33:34.769
withdrawal, whatever.

00:33:35.709 --> 00:33:36.269
And she was like, well,

00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:37.009
I think that's fair.

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:38.430
I guess I don't have an expectation.

00:33:38.931 --> 00:33:40.431
And as a PT, I would say,

00:33:41.652 --> 00:33:42.872
you didn't know the goal,

00:33:43.071 --> 00:33:44.512
but you definitely know you didn't hit it.

00:33:46.130 --> 00:33:46.269
Well,

00:33:46.289 --> 00:33:48.230
we had an event for early career

00:33:48.270 --> 00:33:49.971
professionals and students the other day

00:33:50.231 --> 00:33:52.333
and we had breakout tables and obviously

00:33:52.393 --> 00:33:54.054
my table was talking about the APTA and

00:33:54.153 --> 00:33:55.013
one of them said, hey,

00:33:55.034 --> 00:33:55.875
like I've been a member,

00:33:56.855 --> 00:34:00.116
but I don't use any of the things.

00:34:00.557 --> 00:34:01.938
Ah, wait, what?

00:34:02.117 --> 00:34:02.897
And she was like,

00:34:03.018 --> 00:34:05.159
why should I still be a member if

00:34:05.259 --> 00:34:06.519
I'm not really using those?

00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:09.641
What'd you say?

00:34:09.961 --> 00:34:10.382
I said,

00:34:10.882 --> 00:34:12.483
all of those things that you're talking

00:34:12.503 --> 00:34:13.943
about, those are sprinkles.

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:18.864
The real value is in what the APTA

00:34:18.903 --> 00:34:21.326
does for you when you're not looking,

00:34:21.626 --> 00:34:21.786
right?

00:34:22.586 --> 00:34:23.148
No, hold on.

00:34:23.507 --> 00:34:24.668
I mean, just let me finish.

00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:27.291
Like all the advocacy work that happens

00:34:27.331 --> 00:34:27.711
for you,

00:34:27.831 --> 00:34:30.213
whether you're using your benefits or not,

00:34:30.333 --> 00:34:31.855
you're using your perks or not,

00:34:32.295 --> 00:34:34.436
like all of that is happening for you,

00:34:34.476 --> 00:34:35.438
protecting your license,

00:34:35.458 --> 00:34:36.478
progressing your profession,

00:34:36.498 --> 00:34:37.400
like all of that,

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:39.501
that you don't need to even participate

00:34:39.541 --> 00:34:39.681
in.

00:34:40.322 --> 00:34:41.842
All of that is, I think,

00:34:41.943 --> 00:34:43.525
the most meaningful benefit.

00:34:44.650 --> 00:34:46.192
The rest of it are sprinkles.

00:34:46.552 --> 00:34:47.072
Yes, yes, yes.

00:34:47.112 --> 00:34:48.173
But if you're going to say sprinkles,

00:34:48.193 --> 00:34:49.393
say cake for the rest of it.

00:34:49.494 --> 00:34:50.996
Listen, you're there for the sprinkles.

00:34:51.795 --> 00:34:52.737
You're skipping the cake.

00:34:53.925 --> 00:34:55.505
I know Sprinkles get attention, like,

00:34:55.826 --> 00:34:56.085
you know,

00:34:56.826 --> 00:34:58.686
twenty percent off on New Balance sneakers

00:34:58.746 --> 00:35:00.967
and fifteen percent off on Enterprise

00:35:01.007 --> 00:35:01.447
rental car,

00:35:01.527 --> 00:35:03.528
which I've never used any of these things.

00:35:04.429 --> 00:35:05.030
It's people.

00:35:05.090 --> 00:35:06.289
The answer is it's a group.

00:35:07.090 --> 00:35:09.652
APTA has done a large lift of getting

00:35:09.672 --> 00:35:11.192
a bunch of people together who have

00:35:11.251 --> 00:35:13.233
similar problems and similar gripes and

00:35:13.273 --> 00:35:13.972
similar situations.

00:35:14.293 --> 00:35:15.193
That's the value.

00:35:15.414 --> 00:35:15.954
Hard stop.

00:35:16.233 --> 00:35:16.634
If you're not.

00:35:16.934 --> 00:35:18.454
Here's the thing.

00:35:18.554 --> 00:35:20.036
I said this on LinkedIn the other day.

00:35:21.572 --> 00:35:22.753
I think to the woman who was like,

00:35:22.793 --> 00:35:23.735
well, I have my membership,

00:35:23.775 --> 00:35:24.876
but I don't get anything out of it.

00:35:24.956 --> 00:35:25.277
I was like,

00:35:25.976 --> 00:35:27.117
does this parallel a little bit?

00:35:27.137 --> 00:35:28.579
Like I have a library card,

00:35:28.619 --> 00:35:30.061
but I never got a book.

00:35:30.942 --> 00:35:32.364
And then I'm mad at the library.

00:35:32.443 --> 00:35:35.927
Cause I'm not smarter.

00:35:35.967 --> 00:35:38.228
Pause for my dramatic effect.

00:35:38.550 --> 00:35:39.831
They're still smarter.

00:35:39.911 --> 00:35:41.813
Like they still are consuming the cake,

00:35:41.833 --> 00:35:42.833
whether they know it or not.

00:35:43.567 --> 00:35:44.266
Right, right, right, right, right.

00:35:44.306 --> 00:35:45.967
So that's the thing about the library

00:35:46.148 --> 00:35:47.048
versus APTA.

00:35:47.148 --> 00:35:48.610
APTA is doing other things.

00:35:48.789 --> 00:35:49.630
You might not see them.

00:35:50.231 --> 00:35:51.771
It might not be fast enough for you.

00:35:52.411 --> 00:35:53.371
All valid, I guess.

00:35:53.753 --> 00:35:56.954
But like, I like the library analogy,

00:35:56.974 --> 00:35:57.353
which is like,

00:35:57.414 --> 00:36:00.275
we gave you access to gestures wildly,

00:36:00.675 --> 00:36:01.396
all of this.

00:36:01.836 --> 00:36:02.536
And what did you do?

00:36:02.597 --> 00:36:03.418
And you're like, well, nothing.

00:36:03.458 --> 00:36:04.398
I thought you were just going to read

00:36:04.418 --> 00:36:04.958
it for me.

00:36:05.298 --> 00:36:05.898
And it's like, well,

00:36:05.918 --> 00:36:07.500
that's not how reading works.

00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:08.780
Not yet anyway.

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:09.181
I mean,

00:36:09.561 --> 00:36:10.862
we'll be at the Matrix pretty soon where

00:36:10.882 --> 00:36:12.382
we'll just be able to download abilities.

00:36:13.324 --> 00:36:13.925
We'll be there soon.

00:36:14.387 --> 00:36:15.728
And we still are reading for you.

00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:17.291
Right, right, right.

00:36:17.351 --> 00:36:18.313
Realistically, we are.

00:36:18.353 --> 00:36:19.476
We are also doing that.

00:36:19.556 --> 00:36:20.918
We just may not be reading the way

00:36:20.938 --> 00:36:22.340
that you like, at the volume you like,

00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.121
at the pace you like,

00:36:23.161 --> 00:36:24.003
or the book that you want.

00:36:24.750 --> 00:36:25.989
I was in front of APTA.

00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:29.471
I did a conclave for APTA New Jersey.

00:36:29.490 --> 00:36:30.851
I did a thing there for a couple

00:36:30.871 --> 00:36:31.291
of weeks ago.

00:36:31.992 --> 00:36:33.592
And at the end, one of the students,

00:36:33.711 --> 00:36:34.992
it was actually asking Ben Aguila,

00:36:35.713 --> 00:36:37.373
why should you be a member of APTA

00:36:37.413 --> 00:36:38.474
or something like that?

00:36:38.494 --> 00:36:39.094
Or where do I fit?

00:36:39.114 --> 00:36:41.755
It was a very smartly asked question by

00:36:41.775 --> 00:36:42.175
a student.

00:36:42.315 --> 00:36:43.094
Very well asked.

00:36:43.715 --> 00:36:46.056
And Ben, of course, is a drum beater.

00:36:46.536 --> 00:36:47.155
That's why I like Ben.

00:36:47.215 --> 00:36:48.317
Ben's like, I love APTA.

00:36:48.717 --> 00:36:49.697
And after Ben was done,

00:36:49.936 --> 00:36:51.458
I grabbed the microphone and I was going

00:36:51.478 --> 00:36:51.918
to shock you.

00:36:51.938 --> 00:36:52.338
But I said,

00:36:52.538 --> 00:36:54.018
I don't think you should be an APTA

00:36:54.059 --> 00:36:54.298
member.

00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:56.519
And the room was aghast.

00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:58.320
And then I said,

00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:00.800
unless because I knew I had their

00:37:00.820 --> 00:37:01.181
attention,

00:37:01.382 --> 00:37:03.922
unless I want you to go take a

00:37:03.943 --> 00:37:05.402
look around before you drop five hundred

00:37:05.422 --> 00:37:05.762
bucks.

00:37:06.704 --> 00:37:07.324
What do they do?

00:37:07.423 --> 00:37:09.465
Be a informed consumer.

00:37:09.804 --> 00:37:09.925
Yeah.

00:37:10.784 --> 00:37:11.945
Hey, what do you do here?

00:37:12.306 --> 00:37:13.025
Look around.

00:37:13.226 --> 00:37:14.786
You mean to tell me there's nothing you

00:37:14.806 --> 00:37:17.467
can find in fifty state chapters,

00:37:17.507 --> 00:37:18.728
fifty one state chapters because I'm

00:37:18.768 --> 00:37:19.329
counting D.C.

00:37:19.389 --> 00:37:19.768
I see you.

00:37:20.530 --> 00:37:22.990
Eighteen components and a gajillion little

00:37:23.130 --> 00:37:24.751
sigs in every one of the components and

00:37:24.771 --> 00:37:25.472
every one of the states.

00:37:25.911 --> 00:37:29.134
You can't find three things worth five

00:37:29.153 --> 00:37:29.773
hundred dollars.

00:37:31.157 --> 00:37:31.318
Well,

00:37:31.338 --> 00:37:33.139
let me tell you about somebody that came

00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.121
to the event as a man walked in

00:37:35.161 --> 00:37:36.202
and I was like, okay,

00:37:36.242 --> 00:37:38.483
he seems older than like the average age

00:37:38.503 --> 00:37:38.882
in here.

00:37:38.903 --> 00:37:40.304
And I struck up a conversation with him

00:37:40.844 --> 00:37:44.967
and he is from Venezuela.

00:37:45.967 --> 00:37:47.329
So he sort of had to immigrate to

00:37:47.369 --> 00:37:48.670
the United States under duress.

00:37:48.789 --> 00:37:49.130
Right.

00:37:49.311 --> 00:37:51.532
And it was a physical therapist in

00:37:51.572 --> 00:37:52.092
Venezuela.

00:37:52.652 --> 00:37:53.833
And so he's going,

00:37:54.434 --> 00:37:56.036
he's doing his transitional DPT.

00:37:57.420 --> 00:37:58.422
But in the meantime,

00:37:58.621 --> 00:38:00.043
he got a license to work as a

00:38:00.123 --> 00:38:02.065
CNA and he got a license to work

00:38:02.085 --> 00:38:04.126
as a medical interpreter.

00:38:04.567 --> 00:38:06.869
And he saw the advertisement for our event

00:38:06.989 --> 00:38:09.070
on one of the PT programs pages.

00:38:09.490 --> 00:38:11.112
He's not an APTA member because he's not

00:38:11.132 --> 00:38:12.333
a physical therapist yet.

00:38:13.134 --> 00:38:14.275
He was like,

00:38:14.474 --> 00:38:16.056
I didn't know I could be an APTA

00:38:16.097 --> 00:38:17.097
member as a student.

00:38:17.737 --> 00:38:19.159
And so he's gonna graduate,

00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.061
I think in June with his transitional

00:38:21.101 --> 00:38:23.943
doctorate and like is doing all of this.

00:38:24.003 --> 00:38:25.144
So when we talk about like,

00:38:25.987 --> 00:38:26.686
getting out of it,

00:38:26.726 --> 00:38:28.027
what you're putting into it.

00:38:29.307 --> 00:38:31.768
Like he's just showed up here and like

00:38:32.329 --> 00:38:33.110
done the most.

00:38:33.730 --> 00:38:35.070
And it was so nice to have him

00:38:35.090 --> 00:38:36.550
in this room with early career

00:38:36.590 --> 00:38:37.992
professionals and students and be like,

00:38:38.132 --> 00:38:39.052
this is where you can,

00:38:39.092 --> 00:38:39.612
what you can do.

00:38:40.112 --> 00:38:41.353
I did a video not long ago and

00:38:41.373 --> 00:38:42.954
took crap for it where I compared it

00:38:42.994 --> 00:38:45.735
to buying a gym membership.

00:38:46.324 --> 00:38:47.726
No, I liked that video a lot.

00:38:47.746 --> 00:38:48.306
I was just like,

00:38:48.365 --> 00:38:50.307
so you are mad at the gym that

00:38:50.327 --> 00:38:53.889
you don't belong to or don't work out.

00:38:54.070 --> 00:38:55.550
And somehow it's the gym's fault.

00:38:55.570 --> 00:38:56.371
You don't have muscles.

00:38:57.791 --> 00:38:59.092
Like I have looked and looked and maybe

00:38:59.152 --> 00:38:59.572
I'm wrong.

00:38:59.813 --> 00:39:00.074
Listen,

00:39:00.173 --> 00:39:02.295
I love saying I'm wrong because it happens

00:39:02.335 --> 00:39:03.056
so infrequently.

00:39:03.356 --> 00:39:05.117
No, I love saying I'm wrong.

00:39:05.496 --> 00:39:06.978
Show me where APTA said we're going to

00:39:06.998 --> 00:39:08.079
solve all your problems.

00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:09.739
Yeah, they don't.

00:39:10.300 --> 00:39:11.681
Maybe not that I've seen.

00:39:11.721 --> 00:39:12.221
Prove me wrong.

00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:12.561
Show me.

00:39:12.601 --> 00:39:13.041
Show it to me.

00:39:13.380 --> 00:39:14.860
Talk to Kyle Covington.

00:39:15.601 --> 00:39:16.442
Kyle's president.

00:39:16.601 --> 00:39:18.081
He's the biggest drum beater right now.

00:39:18.342 --> 00:39:19.922
Kyle's not out there saying we solve all

00:39:19.943 --> 00:39:20.722
your problems.

00:39:21.443 --> 00:39:21.483
No.

00:39:21.782 --> 00:39:23.282
We're trying to solve some of these big

00:39:23.362 --> 00:39:23.463
ones.

00:39:23.663 --> 00:39:25.523
You don't like how fast it's going?

00:39:27.083 --> 00:39:29.085
Have you ever seen A Few Good Men

00:39:29.264 --> 00:39:30.085
with Jack Nicholson?

00:39:30.545 --> 00:39:31.644
Have I seen A Few Good Men?

00:39:31.764 --> 00:39:33.085
It's like one of my favorite movies ever.

00:39:33.646 --> 00:39:35.405
You know that part where he's like,

00:39:36.563 --> 00:39:38.266
Pick up a weapon and stand a post.

00:39:38.385 --> 00:39:39.588
On the wall, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:39.608 --> 00:39:41.670
I think about that Jack Nicholson quote a

00:39:41.791 --> 00:39:43.713
lot when it comes to APTA.

00:39:44.733 --> 00:39:46.295
We're happy to have you on the wall.

00:39:46.536 --> 00:39:47.056
But also,

00:39:47.978 --> 00:39:49.260
you don't have to be a Marine.

00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.844
If you don't like it, don't join.

00:39:52.224 --> 00:39:53.365
If you like it, join.

00:39:54.376 --> 00:39:56.818
but no joining means you have to do

00:39:56.858 --> 00:39:57.297
to get out.

00:39:57.418 --> 00:39:57.898
And that's okay.

00:39:57.918 --> 00:39:58.237
If you're like,

00:39:58.557 --> 00:39:59.478
I want to just drop my money in

00:39:59.498 --> 00:40:00.898
the bucket and leave the woman.

00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:02.079
One of the women yesterday in my,

00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:03.340
in my comment section was like,

00:40:03.900 --> 00:40:04.960
I just sort of like being a member.

00:40:05.041 --> 00:40:05.740
Cause I like being a member.

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:06.661
Is that a valid reason?

00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:07.121
Yes.

00:40:08.282 --> 00:40:10.603
But for her expectations are aligned.

00:40:10.943 --> 00:40:11.083
Yep.

00:40:11.262 --> 00:40:12.222
I'm going to give this money.

00:40:12.302 --> 00:40:13.222
And I feel, look,

00:40:13.824 --> 00:40:15.784
I got my NPR AF shirt on.

00:40:16.244 --> 00:40:17.405
I give money to NPR.

00:40:17.764 --> 00:40:18.025
Why?

00:40:18.385 --> 00:40:19.365
Cause I like it.

00:40:19.505 --> 00:40:20.226
I want to keep doing.

00:40:21.297 --> 00:40:23.318
Do am I sitting here every day going,

00:40:23.338 --> 00:40:24.018
ah,

00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:25.940
did I get my eleven and a half

00:40:26.001 --> 00:40:27.802
cents worth of NPR today?

00:40:27.983 --> 00:40:29.625
No, I like write the check.

00:40:29.664 --> 00:40:30.184
I walk away.

00:40:30.264 --> 00:40:30.786
I'm like, good.

00:40:30.905 --> 00:40:31.226
Do that.

00:40:31.346 --> 00:40:33.807
I don't I am a member of APT

00:40:33.827 --> 00:40:35.929
because I don't want to do legislative

00:40:35.969 --> 00:40:36.351
things.

00:40:37.271 --> 00:40:38.693
I don't I don't like them.

00:40:38.893 --> 00:40:40.414
I don't like them.

00:40:40.434 --> 00:40:41.735
You would think I would want to be

00:40:41.755 --> 00:40:44.398
in politics because I have a strong desire

00:40:44.418 --> 00:40:45.199
to get people like me.

00:40:45.518 --> 00:40:47.219
But I feel like it's such a fake

00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:47.681
game.

00:40:49.411 --> 00:40:50.791
There's not a lot of authenticity,

00:40:50.811 --> 00:40:51.112
I will tell you.

00:40:51.132 --> 00:40:52.012
That's the problem.

00:40:52.032 --> 00:40:52.231
I'm like,

00:40:52.351 --> 00:40:54.853
I see you're being fake and then I

00:40:54.873 --> 00:40:55.914
have to be fake and we're just going

00:40:55.934 --> 00:40:57.074
to out, we're going to,

00:40:57.114 --> 00:40:58.375
it's a fake cold war.

00:40:58.635 --> 00:40:59.034
And I get it.

00:40:59.054 --> 00:40:59.514
It's a game.

00:40:59.554 --> 00:41:00.175
Don't hate the player.

00:41:00.195 --> 00:41:00.556
Hate the game.

00:41:00.795 --> 00:41:01.516
I don't want to play it.

00:41:01.735 --> 00:41:02.396
Someone else does.

00:41:02.677 --> 00:41:03.297
Here's my nickel.

00:41:03.396 --> 00:41:03.797
Go play.

00:41:03.817 --> 00:41:04.617
I don't want to do it.

00:41:04.637 --> 00:41:06.018
What I have found in this role is

00:41:06.057 --> 00:41:07.498
that when I am meeting with like the

00:41:07.539 --> 00:41:09.338
presidents of the other associations,

00:41:09.358 --> 00:41:11.079
like chiropractic association,

00:41:11.179 --> 00:41:12.079
the athletic trainers,

00:41:12.099 --> 00:41:12.981
the occupational therapists,

00:41:13.001 --> 00:41:15.222
like the authenticity is there.

00:41:16.217 --> 00:41:18.958
And when we strip those barriers between

00:41:18.978 --> 00:41:19.318
like, well,

00:41:19.338 --> 00:41:20.780
we'll have their lobbyists talk to our

00:41:20.820 --> 00:41:22.181
lobbyists and that legislator talks.

00:41:22.460 --> 00:41:25.121
Like when I go directly to the people

00:41:25.222 --> 00:41:25.782
and I'm like, hey,

00:41:25.862 --> 00:41:27.123
I feel like this might be a conflict.

00:41:27.163 --> 00:41:28.563
How can we have this conversation?

00:41:28.623 --> 00:41:30.824
So I went to happy hour last week

00:41:30.864 --> 00:41:32.364
with the athletic trainers in Colorado.

00:41:32.385 --> 00:41:33.985
Of course you would.

00:41:34.005 --> 00:41:35.425
Because the best conversations happen at

00:41:35.465 --> 00:41:35.786
happy hour.

00:41:35.806 --> 00:41:36.047
Yeah.

00:41:38.226 --> 00:41:39.148
And I was like,

00:41:39.188 --> 00:41:40.829
tell me all your concerns about PTs doing

00:41:40.869 --> 00:41:41.489
sports physicals.

00:41:42.472 --> 00:41:43.432
And we went through them one at a

00:41:43.452 --> 00:41:43.793
time.

00:41:44.193 --> 00:41:45.715
And we had a beer and some really

00:41:45.755 --> 00:41:46.576
good French fries.

00:41:46.615 --> 00:41:47.076
And in the end,

00:41:47.115 --> 00:41:48.536
I felt really good about how that went.

00:41:48.918 --> 00:41:50.960
So that like, I found the authenticity.

00:41:51.471 --> 00:41:53.052
Happy hour isn't where the problem is

00:41:53.112 --> 00:41:53.512
solved,

00:41:53.771 --> 00:41:55.853
but it's where the idea might be born

00:41:56.534 --> 00:41:58.775
that eventually leads to the process of

00:41:58.815 --> 00:42:00.255
the execution of solving the idea.

00:42:00.476 --> 00:42:01.115
That's it.

00:42:01.155 --> 00:42:02.217
I'm very sorry, people.

00:42:02.257 --> 00:42:03.297
There's no curtain.

00:42:03.356 --> 00:42:04.858
Where you can have it without like

00:42:04.898 --> 00:42:06.719
following Robert's rules of order and not

00:42:06.759 --> 00:42:08.719
like playing hearsay through people who

00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:10.181
don't actually do the work.

00:42:10.721 --> 00:42:12.561
So I've been really happy about that.

00:42:12.601 --> 00:42:14.623
So I'm going to turn this conversation

00:42:14.663 --> 00:42:15.963
back to CSM for a minute.

00:42:16.164 --> 00:42:16.563
Yeah, we should.

00:42:16.583 --> 00:42:16.884
Okay.

00:42:17.364 --> 00:42:17.485
So.

00:42:18.565 --> 00:42:20.005
What do you feel like?

00:42:20.146 --> 00:42:21.085
I saw that you made a post the

00:42:21.146 --> 00:42:23.887
other day about like what people should

00:42:23.927 --> 00:42:25.467
know if they're going to CSM for the

00:42:25.489 --> 00:42:25.869
first time.

00:42:25.889 --> 00:42:25.989
Did I?

00:42:26.188 --> 00:42:27.009
I did that?

00:42:28.489 --> 00:42:29.030
What did I say?

00:42:29.110 --> 00:42:29.550
Help me out.

00:42:29.570 --> 00:42:31.731
I think it was like drop your advice

00:42:31.771 --> 00:42:32.911
for people.

00:42:33.112 --> 00:42:34.572
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:34.592 --> 00:42:36.494
So I know you have really good advice

00:42:36.514 --> 00:42:37.875
about that and I want to talk about

00:42:39.034 --> 00:42:39.175
it.

00:42:39.195 --> 00:42:39.494
All right.

00:42:39.514 --> 00:42:44.097
So this is a social event wrapped in

00:42:44.677 --> 00:42:45.117
conference.

00:42:45.577 --> 00:42:45.637
Yes.

00:42:45.697 --> 00:42:46.398
So number one,

00:42:47.304 --> 00:42:48.664
get a little, it's a buffet,

00:42:48.824 --> 00:42:49.764
get a little bit of everything.

00:42:50.005 --> 00:42:51.226
Don't go there for one thing.

00:42:51.505 --> 00:42:52.487
I mean, that's just my advice though.

00:42:52.507 --> 00:42:53.467
Take everything with a grain of salt,

00:42:53.867 --> 00:42:54.467
do a little bit of this,

00:42:54.487 --> 00:42:54.987
a little bit of that.

00:42:55.007 --> 00:42:55.867
So when you're planning out your

00:42:55.907 --> 00:42:57.789
conferences, there's, you know,

00:42:57.809 --> 00:42:59.349
there's eight or ten hours worth of

00:42:59.409 --> 00:43:00.931
conferences, stuff a day.

00:43:01.451 --> 00:43:03.072
Don't, don't plan to go to ten hours,

00:43:03.351 --> 00:43:04.273
go to like six.

00:43:04.413 --> 00:43:05.954
Like you need to be a human and

00:43:06.014 --> 00:43:08.215
do other things and have lunch, you know.

00:43:08.434 --> 00:43:10.456
So number one, go find

00:43:12.434 --> 00:43:14.257
Like your A sessions.

00:43:14.438 --> 00:43:16.302
When you're looking through the bajillion

00:43:16.342 --> 00:43:16.902
of sessions,

00:43:17.284 --> 00:43:18.967
find your one or two a day that

00:43:18.987 --> 00:43:20.891
are like, cannot miss,

00:43:21.251 --> 00:43:22.233
this is what I need.

00:43:22.253 --> 00:43:22.894
Yeah.

00:43:23.771 --> 00:43:24.932
And then line up a couple of B

00:43:24.972 --> 00:43:26.233
sessions and maybe a C session.

00:43:26.472 --> 00:43:28.753
Now some of these sessions should be

00:43:28.894 --> 00:43:29.835
outside of your area.

00:43:30.014 --> 00:43:31.195
If you're an acute care physical

00:43:31.215 --> 00:43:33.277
therapist, you should go to something in,

00:43:33.817 --> 00:43:34.436
I'm making this up,

00:43:34.476 --> 00:43:36.838
women's health or pelvic health, sorry,

00:43:37.298 --> 00:43:38.599
or ortho, whatever.

00:43:38.978 --> 00:43:42.380
Do the weird because there's a straight

00:43:42.420 --> 00:43:45.121
line between any, any two points,

00:43:45.483 --> 00:43:47.242
not just some, there's a straight line.

00:43:47.362 --> 00:43:48.143
You'll find something.

00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:50.460
Well, and we silo too much.

00:43:50.721 --> 00:43:51.481
And one thing... Oh,

00:43:51.541 --> 00:43:55.186
the irony of it calling... Sorry,

00:43:55.206 --> 00:43:55.967
you froze there for a second.

00:43:55.989 --> 00:43:57.851
The irony of it calling combined sections,

00:43:57.871 --> 00:43:59.233
meaning we come together and then split

00:43:59.273 --> 00:44:01.175
apart into sections, is not lost on me.

00:44:01.753 --> 00:44:01.893
Right,

00:44:01.913 --> 00:44:03.454
but I think of it as an opportunity

00:44:03.474 --> 00:44:04.755
for you to open the door of each

00:44:04.795 --> 00:44:05.695
of those sections.

00:44:05.735 --> 00:44:06.615
Yeah, there's not even doors.

00:44:07.317 --> 00:44:09.637
It's just a doorway.

00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:11.659
So lock in what you're doing.

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:13.161
Do something weird,

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:14.402
a little bit of nonsensical.

00:44:14.461 --> 00:44:15.141
It'll make sense.

00:44:15.481 --> 00:44:16.822
If you sit in a bad session and

00:44:16.842 --> 00:44:18.003
you realize this isn't for you in the

00:44:18.023 --> 00:44:19.224
first five minutes, leave.

00:44:19.565 --> 00:44:20.105
You're not going to piss.

00:44:20.144 --> 00:44:20.985
I'd rather have you leave.

00:44:21.025 --> 00:44:22.027
If you're in my session, you're like,

00:44:22.067 --> 00:44:22.467
not for me.

00:44:23.588 --> 00:44:24.327
Great, not for you.

00:44:24.648 --> 00:44:25.228
Find something.

00:44:25.289 --> 00:44:26.188
I want you to be happy.

00:44:26.409 --> 00:44:28.311
It's like dating a girl in high school.

00:44:28.811 --> 00:44:30.431
If you're not with me, go find happy.

00:44:32.594 --> 00:44:34.375
practical advice you're a human you're

00:44:34.396 --> 00:44:37.478
gonna crash bring snacks eat often drink

00:44:37.557 --> 00:44:39.800
often uh it's like a casino you're not

00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:41.001
gonna know what time it is or what

00:44:41.081 --> 00:44:42.782
day it is or what time zone it

00:44:42.862 --> 00:44:46.226
is meet people again it's a people game

00:44:46.465 --> 00:44:49.989
with rapid business card i don't even do

00:44:50.010 --> 00:44:52.532
that i just go what's your linkedin i

00:44:52.552 --> 00:44:54.072
i use an electronic business card and it

00:44:54.112 --> 00:44:55.635
works really well you could do that

00:44:56.402 --> 00:44:57.644
Bring a battery charger.

00:44:58.146 --> 00:44:58.467
Yes.

00:44:58.807 --> 00:45:00.170
Like a portable battery charger.

00:45:00.331 --> 00:45:01.393
Bring granola bars.

00:45:02.376 --> 00:45:03.880
And if you're a Diet Coke drinker.

00:45:04.141 --> 00:45:04.661
Bring your own.

00:45:04.842 --> 00:45:05.704
Bring your own Diet Coke.

00:45:06.514 --> 00:45:08.534
Most convention centers have a contract

00:45:08.554 --> 00:45:09.155
with Pepsi.

00:45:09.416 --> 00:45:09.775
Really?

00:45:09.856 --> 00:45:13.579
See, I don't even notice that.

00:45:13.619 --> 00:45:17.300
Smart money move is land and do a

00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.222
DoorDash run or an Uber run to a

00:45:19.262 --> 00:45:21.764
grocery store and buy everything you think

00:45:21.784 --> 00:45:23.144
you'll need for three days and put it

00:45:23.164 --> 00:45:25.226
in your room because mathematically,

00:45:25.425 --> 00:45:26.086
it's going to play out.

00:45:26.666 --> 00:45:29.148
the lines for coffee are bananas so get

00:45:29.228 --> 00:45:30.547
like an iced coffee and put in your

00:45:31.309 --> 00:45:34.929
hotel fridge uh snacks everywhere make as

00:45:34.969 --> 00:45:36.871
many friends as you can make as many

00:45:36.891 --> 00:45:38.851
friends that don't make sense as that do

00:45:38.891 --> 00:45:42.672
make sense um and then we i would

00:45:42.773 --> 00:45:43.813
what were you gonna say i was gonna

00:45:44.293 --> 00:45:46.434
say i know that people are like well

00:45:46.494 --> 00:45:48.454
if this session's on demand i can watch

00:45:48.474 --> 00:45:48.815
it later

00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:50.641
Here's the thing about that.

00:45:51.061 --> 00:45:52.222
If you're really interested in that

00:45:52.282 --> 00:45:52.641
session,

00:45:52.983 --> 00:45:55.623
I think it's always better live and you

00:45:55.664 --> 00:45:57.724
can't talk to the presenter on on demand.

00:45:58.324 --> 00:45:59.525
So if it's a session you're really

00:45:59.585 --> 00:46:01.286
interested in and you want to ask that

00:46:01.327 --> 00:46:04.648
presenter questions, go to the session.

00:46:06.644 --> 00:46:07.405
Don't just say, oh,

00:46:07.425 --> 00:46:08.467
I'll watch it on demand later.

00:46:08.507 --> 00:46:09.869
Because also, will you?

00:46:10.268 --> 00:46:11.690
I always tell myself that.

00:46:11.811 --> 00:46:13.012
I'm going to watch it on demand,

00:46:13.032 --> 00:46:14.114
and then I never do.

00:46:14.213 --> 00:46:14.894
Yeah.

00:46:14.954 --> 00:46:16.757
It's like taking screenshots of things or

00:46:16.817 --> 00:46:17.737
pictures of slides.

00:46:17.918 --> 00:46:18.579
You're going to be like, what?

00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:20.121
I don't know what.

00:46:20.161 --> 00:46:20.420
Listen,

00:46:20.722 --> 00:46:22.284
I can listen to Foo Fighters anytime I

00:46:22.304 --> 00:46:23.385
want because I have Apple Music.

00:46:23.804 --> 00:46:24.967
But if Foo Fighters were in town...

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:27.539
Exactly.

00:46:28.561 --> 00:46:29.320
As a speaker,

00:46:29.561 --> 00:46:30.862
I want you to ask questions.

00:46:30.981 --> 00:46:32.563
I want you to come up to me.

00:46:33.182 --> 00:46:33.543
I'm like,

00:46:34.463 --> 00:46:36.125
I'm in the room to do that.

00:46:36.244 --> 00:46:37.465
I'm in the room to connect with you.

00:46:37.545 --> 00:46:38.965
I'm in the room to answer your questions.

00:46:39.005 --> 00:46:40.306
I'm in the room to give you this

00:46:40.347 --> 00:46:40.806
content.

00:46:41.128 --> 00:46:42.847
I want nothing more than to do that.

00:46:43.168 --> 00:46:44.469
So you're not a bother.

00:46:44.648 --> 00:46:45.949
You get up at the microphone,

00:46:46.130 --> 00:46:47.911
ask the question, come up afterward.

00:46:47.990 --> 00:46:49.311
We're not scary.

00:46:49.331 --> 00:46:51.693
Questions are good.

00:46:51.733 --> 00:46:53.034
Make it about you is not good.

00:46:54.621 --> 00:46:56.523
More of a comment than a question, really.

00:46:56.824 --> 00:46:59.085
More of a comment is not a question.

00:46:59.105 --> 00:47:00.967
Did you see that reel that was like

00:47:01.067 --> 00:47:03.387
this guy lifting weights and throwing

00:47:03.427 --> 00:47:04.568
really big, heavy things?

00:47:04.608 --> 00:47:04.989
And it says,

00:47:05.369 --> 00:47:07.210
just out here training for when my

00:47:07.231 --> 00:47:08.831
friend's giving a presentation and someone

00:47:08.871 --> 00:47:10.012
stands up at the mic and says,

00:47:10.032 --> 00:47:12.215
I have more of a comment than a

00:47:12.255 --> 00:47:12.815
question.

00:47:13.054 --> 00:47:13.715
Yeah, get out.

00:47:14.701 --> 00:47:15.501
I like that energy.

00:47:16.061 --> 00:47:16.563
I like it.

00:47:16.583 --> 00:47:19.105
But the average like because I like live

00:47:19.144 --> 00:47:19.985
and I like going weird,

00:47:20.106 --> 00:47:20.606
I can do it.

00:47:21.306 --> 00:47:22.126
I mean, lots of people can do it,

00:47:22.166 --> 00:47:22.668
not just me,

00:47:22.708 --> 00:47:25.570
but like be respectful of not not it's

00:47:25.630 --> 00:47:27.351
not your comment.

00:47:27.672 --> 00:47:29.773
More comment than question is not

00:47:29.813 --> 00:47:31.355
disrespectful to the presenter.

00:47:31.775 --> 00:47:32.315
Correct.

00:47:32.416 --> 00:47:34.297
It's disrespectful to everybody else in

00:47:34.318 --> 00:47:36.460
the room who wants to hear the answer

00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:39.302
to a question of the presenter or

00:47:39.362 --> 00:47:39.922
presenters.

00:47:40.362 --> 00:47:41.963
That's why it's not cool.

00:47:42.713 --> 00:47:42.893
Right.

00:47:43.574 --> 00:47:45.855
I don't mind you giving your comments and

00:47:45.875 --> 00:47:46.355
your thoughts.

00:47:46.534 --> 00:47:48.155
I'm more than happy to hear that,

00:47:48.215 --> 00:47:49.775
but maybe come give me the comment

00:47:49.996 --> 00:47:52.135
afterward so that the people who have

00:47:52.175 --> 00:47:54.016
questions can ask that question to the

00:47:54.077 --> 00:47:54.516
room.

00:47:54.677 --> 00:47:54.956
Correct.

00:47:54.976 --> 00:47:56.617
There's not unlimited time.

00:47:56.637 --> 00:47:57.836
Right.

00:47:57.856 --> 00:47:59.818
There is a lot happening after hours.

00:48:00.177 --> 00:48:01.398
There's a lot happening now.

00:48:01.518 --> 00:48:02.498
APTA has, I think,

00:48:02.557 --> 00:48:05.199
done a pretty good job of doing weird

00:48:05.259 --> 00:48:05.639
stuff.

00:48:05.998 --> 00:48:09.260
There's a puppy park, Bark Park,

00:48:09.675 --> 00:48:09.996
Yeah,

00:48:10.016 --> 00:48:11.597
I wasn't cool enough to even get any

00:48:11.657 --> 00:48:12.739
time in there last year.

00:48:12.759 --> 00:48:14.420
They just hand you dogs?

00:48:14.601 --> 00:48:14.800
Yeah.

00:48:15.369 --> 00:48:16.871
You're not allowed to take them home.

00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:18.251
I just want to stress that again.

00:48:18.271 --> 00:48:20.291
We had someone try to leave with a

00:48:20.351 --> 00:48:20.992
golden doodle.

00:48:21.313 --> 00:48:21.853
I made that up.

00:48:22.572 --> 00:48:23.112
I'm only kidding.

00:48:23.233 --> 00:48:24.034
That didn't happen.

00:48:24.074 --> 00:48:26.054
But they're just dogs.

00:48:26.135 --> 00:48:26.875
It's a stress reliever.

00:48:26.894 --> 00:48:27.635
It's just dogs.

00:48:28.056 --> 00:48:30.496
There's also a gym for demonstration or

00:48:30.536 --> 00:48:31.456
just to get your swole on.

00:48:31.637 --> 00:48:32.418
Like, just do it.

00:48:32.438 --> 00:48:35.739
There's rogue racks and med balls and just

00:48:35.798 --> 00:48:36.438
get all sweaty.

00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:38.900
There's headshots.

00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:40.121
They're doing headshots again.

00:48:40.141 --> 00:48:40.681
I mean, I don't know.

00:48:40.701 --> 00:48:41.382
In this day and age,

00:48:41.942 --> 00:48:42.702
if you need a headshot,

00:48:42.842 --> 00:48:43.722
if they have that.

00:48:44.463 --> 00:48:46.246
So there's sessions, there's pickleball.

00:48:47.487 --> 00:48:48.969
Drew Contreras would be very mad at me

00:48:48.989 --> 00:48:50.130
if I didn't point out that he rented

00:48:50.251 --> 00:48:52.474
out or arranged a giant pickleball,

00:48:52.534 --> 00:48:55.418
multi-pickleball Thunderdome sort of

00:48:55.458 --> 00:48:55.880
situation.

00:48:57.981 --> 00:48:59.242
And then, of course, there's after hours.

00:48:59.742 --> 00:49:00.643
I know it's going to surprise you.

00:49:00.704 --> 00:49:03.826
There are food and drink things after

00:49:03.865 --> 00:49:04.085
hours.

00:49:04.347 --> 00:49:07.349
Every hotel bar, it will be full.

00:49:07.449 --> 00:49:08.829
Every restaurant within three and a half

00:49:08.869 --> 00:49:09.190
miles.

00:49:09.690 --> 00:49:11.090
Lots of people will be going over to

00:49:11.130 --> 00:49:11.911
Disneyland.

00:49:12.012 --> 00:49:13.532
I got yelled at in my comment section

00:49:13.552 --> 00:49:14.914
because I called it Disney World.

00:49:14.954 --> 00:49:17.456
I apologize to the Disney people.

00:49:17.976 --> 00:49:20.137
Well, it's Disneyland because it's LA.

00:49:20.318 --> 00:49:21.958
And then it's Disney World because it's

00:49:22.018 --> 00:49:22.438
Orlando.

00:49:22.699 --> 00:49:22.920
I know.

00:49:23.019 --> 00:49:24.380
I just learned that like a year ago.

00:49:25.606 --> 00:49:25.865
All right.

00:49:25.905 --> 00:49:28.628
So what's your favorite thing to get in

00:49:28.668 --> 00:49:29.630
the convention hall?

00:49:30.391 --> 00:49:31.192
Useful things.

00:49:31.211 --> 00:49:32.594
Like I don't need another forty eight

00:49:32.614 --> 00:49:33.114
pens.

00:49:33.715 --> 00:49:36.818
So I've useful thing is like

00:49:38.614 --> 00:49:40.416
like battery chargers or things I'd be

00:49:40.436 --> 00:49:40.775
like, Oh yeah.

00:49:40.795 --> 00:49:42.115
Like you see it.

00:49:42.135 --> 00:49:42.396
And like,

00:49:42.856 --> 00:49:44.436
I saw somebody giving away like a phone

00:49:44.456 --> 00:49:45.556
tripod last year,

00:49:45.817 --> 00:49:47.257
like a little fold up phone tripod.

00:49:47.277 --> 00:49:48.338
I was like, that's cool here.

00:49:48.557 --> 00:49:51.679
You know, uh, some, uh, fusion.

00:49:51.878 --> 00:49:52.940
They're like a staffing company.

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.019
They always give away weird stuff.

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:59.061
They gave away at avocado.

00:49:59.101 --> 00:50:00.021
It was like a stress ball,

00:50:00.041 --> 00:50:01.061
like a squeezer thing.

00:50:01.442 --> 00:50:02.461
That's cute.

00:50:02.483 --> 00:50:04.182
So I thought that was cute.

00:50:04.362 --> 00:50:06.943
I really was just going to say popcorn.

00:50:07.853 --> 00:50:08.514
Oh, food.

00:50:08.594 --> 00:50:09.074
Yeah, food.

00:50:09.335 --> 00:50:10.474
I like the popcorn people.

00:50:10.494 --> 00:50:12.115
They'll have like coffee stations and food

00:50:12.135 --> 00:50:12.516
stations.

00:50:12.637 --> 00:50:13.217
Take a venture.

00:50:13.317 --> 00:50:14.858
I just always go to the popcorn vendor

00:50:14.898 --> 00:50:16.418
and then I slowly walk up and down

00:50:16.458 --> 00:50:18.199
the rows and like take little pieces of

00:50:18.260 --> 00:50:19.659
chocolate to put in my bag.

00:50:19.940 --> 00:50:21.760
Yeah, it's Valentine's week again.

00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:22.902
So it's going to be a lot of...

00:50:25.543 --> 00:50:26.003
I'm wearing...

00:50:26.884 --> 00:50:28.445
So I'm live streaming on Thursday and

00:50:28.485 --> 00:50:28.885
Friday.

00:50:29.045 --> 00:50:30.065
I might be doing it Saturday,

00:50:30.085 --> 00:50:31.226
but definitely Thursday, Friday.

00:50:32.547 --> 00:50:35.889
I bought, purchased...

00:50:37.288 --> 00:50:40.112
A red tuxedo.

00:50:41.014 --> 00:50:41.934
Oh, I cannot wait.

00:50:42.516 --> 00:50:45.840
So I have a red tuxedo, black lapels.

00:50:46.661 --> 00:50:47.001
I am...

00:50:48.153 --> 00:50:48.893
That's my outfit.

00:50:49.594 --> 00:50:50.735
I usually, on the first day,

00:50:50.795 --> 00:50:52.054
I wear a ridiculous outfit.

00:50:52.135 --> 00:50:53.554
So everybody's like, who's that?

00:50:53.974 --> 00:50:55.195
People who know me just sort of nod

00:50:55.215 --> 00:50:55.896
and they go, that's Jimmy.

00:50:55.916 --> 00:50:56.835
He's just being weird over there.

00:50:57.195 --> 00:50:57.876
And then other people are like,

00:50:57.936 --> 00:50:58.916
who's that guy?

00:50:58.976 --> 00:50:59.936
And then usually the person next to them

00:50:59.956 --> 00:51:00.657
is like, that's Jimmy.

00:51:00.677 --> 00:51:01.516
He's being weird over there.

00:51:01.817 --> 00:51:03.617
But my job is attention,

00:51:03.838 --> 00:51:05.277
so I will wear a weird outfit.

00:51:05.358 --> 00:51:06.177
It has to make sense.

00:51:06.217 --> 00:51:07.237
I can't just be wearing – I can't

00:51:07.257 --> 00:51:08.539
just dress like a pickleball for no

00:51:08.579 --> 00:51:08.838
reason.

00:51:08.858 --> 00:51:11.338
I'm here for it.

00:51:11.378 --> 00:51:12.199
And then I don't even know what I'm

00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:13.079
wearing on Friday.

00:51:13.099 --> 00:51:13.699
It doesn't matter.

00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.039
I'll blend in Friday, but –

00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:16.280
Oh,

00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:18.061
because we're live streaming on Friday.

00:51:18.181 --> 00:51:19.581
I was going to like match my outfit

00:51:19.601 --> 00:51:20.902
to go with this tuxedo.

00:51:20.922 --> 00:51:21.021
No.

00:51:21.061 --> 00:51:24.264
Now what am I going to do?

00:51:24.284 --> 00:51:26.364
PTA Plus is saying I still use a

00:51:26.465 --> 00:51:29.166
slingback beach chair phone holder.

00:51:29.945 --> 00:51:31.286
I got in the exhibit hall last time

00:51:31.327 --> 00:51:31.987
I was in Anaheim.

00:51:32.007 --> 00:51:33.027
That's a decade ago.

00:51:34.208 --> 00:51:34.347
Oh,

00:51:34.387 --> 00:51:36.168
so it's a it's a small beach chair

00:51:36.188 --> 00:51:37.568
that looks that's that's funny.

00:51:37.608 --> 00:51:39.230
That's like a small little like that's.

00:51:39.309 --> 00:51:40.170
Yeah.

00:51:40.190 --> 00:51:40.951
Yeah.

00:51:40.971 --> 00:51:41.791
Corny things like that.

00:51:42.090 --> 00:51:42.371
Cute.

00:51:42.630 --> 00:51:42.951
Keech.

00:51:42.971 --> 00:51:43.911
I'm excited about it.

00:51:45.137 --> 00:51:46.717
I'm leaving tomorrow and I am going to

00:51:46.737 --> 00:51:48.659
go to Disneyland before my meetings.

00:51:49.018 --> 00:51:49.478
Good for you.

00:51:49.878 --> 00:51:51.500
What, what's your ride of where,

00:51:51.780 --> 00:51:53.221
what part of Disneyland are you like a

00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:54.141
Star Wars?

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Are you with this?

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I'm like a big Disneyland person.

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And frankly, my kids aren't either.

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My kids are like,

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let's go to the beach and like do

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outdoor things.

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So I have not been a lot.

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I'm a space mountain girl though.

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Like I have like fond memories of space

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mountain.

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So that's my goal.

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Space mountain.

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Space mountain.

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And like a dual webbing.

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I'm going to see,

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I think I'm going to see one of

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my best friends from high school.

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He lives in LA with his kids.

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His kids have a PT.

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He has a PT and he's like, Hey,

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are you coming to a conference?

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I'm like, yeah.

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And he's like, my PT is going.

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And I'm like, awesome.

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I'm going.

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So I'm going to see my buddy Paco

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who lives forty, thirty,

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forty minutes away.

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He lives like two miles away,

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but it's forty minutes because it's

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Anaheim in L.A.

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So that's why it's going to take so

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long.

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I'm looking forward to the people I hang

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out with every year.

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I'm looking forward to seeing the people

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that I interact with on LinkedIn and

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whatnot because I'm a dork like that in

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person and having a beer with those

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people.

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I might do a couple of impromptu live

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things from bars.

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I'll play a game called I invented a

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new game called Truth or Drink.

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So I'm going to ask you a question.

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You got to tell me the truth right

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off the bat,

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or you just take a drink and we'll

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just do that until the alcohol runs out.

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Yikes.

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Yikes.

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Parting shots for today.

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I think parting shot for CSM is it's

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about the people and not the content.

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It's all the, well, the people,

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even the content is made by.

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The people.

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So it's about, it's not about the CEU.

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It's about who you see and who sees

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you.

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Woo.

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Did you make that up?

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Did you just make that up?

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You've made that up.

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Say it again.

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That's good.

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It's not about the CEUs.

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It's about who you see and who sees

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you.

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Woo.

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How am I going to top that?

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You got me.

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That's a good one.

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you get out what you put in.

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If you go and you're a passive passenger

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princess,

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you're going to get nothing out of this.

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If you are an active participant,

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you will get active participant rewards.

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Luck favors the people who take the leap.

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I will see you in just a couple

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of days, Rebecca Griffith.

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Sounds good.

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That's it for this one,

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but we're just getting warmed up.

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Smash follow, send it to a friend,

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or crank up the next episode.

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Want to go deeper?

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Hit us at pgpinecast.com.

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Or find us on YouTube and socials at

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pgpinecast.

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And legally, none of this was advice.

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It's for entertainment purposes only.

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Bullshit!

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See, Keith?

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We read the script.

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Happy now?