Maximizing Your 2024 CSM Boston Experience

WEBVTT00:01.360 --> 00:02.061All right, I think.00:02.421 --> 00:04.344Yeah, baby.00:04.364 --> 00:04.985We are live.00:05.385 --> 00:06.266Ladies, how are we doing today?00:07.067 --> 00:07.848Fantastic.00:08.409 --> 00:08.709Great.00:09.390 --> 00:14.636We are doing this at 1030, which is like brunch time where I am.00:14.897 --> 00:15.678But this is different.00:15.698 --> 00:17.660This is more breakfast times for you.00:18.021 --> 00:18.862Is that that's right?00:18.882 --> 00:19.723Mm hmm.00:21.297 --> 00:24.598It's like post-school drop-off breakfast time.00:24.678 --> 00:25.519All right.00:25.799 --> 00:30.901So the idea today is it's always really far away until it isn't.00:31.381 --> 00:32.582And I'm talking about CSM.00:32.862 --> 00:33.742It creeps up on you.00:35.503 --> 00:35.883And then...00:37.318 --> 00:38.598What am I supposed to go to again?00:38.618 --> 00:40.179Are there sessions?00:40.419 --> 00:40.959And when are they?00:40.979 --> 00:42.379And there's pre-cons.00:42.419 --> 00:43.899That's the con before the con.00:45.140 --> 00:47.680And so first I want a personality profile.00:47.700 --> 00:48.800We'll go Rebecca, then Elise.00:49.081 --> 00:53.942Do you pick out your stuff well beforehand, the day before, on the flight, or the morning of?00:54.102 --> 00:57.262Or do you just do what I do sometimes, which is like, time's the next session.00:57.382 --> 00:58.082What do we got here?00:58.222 --> 00:59.043Use the APTA app.00:59.343 --> 01:00.463So what's your profile?01:01.619 --> 01:17.511it's evolved i think the first time i went i was probably i'd get the like printed out catalog and highlight everything and rank order choice them so if i went into one and i was like not feeling it i had a backup plan and a backup plan to the backup plan and i went to every single session01:18.531 --> 01:20.812Now I'm more of a like, I don't know.01:20.832 --> 01:22.633We'll see when I get there.01:22.693 --> 01:25.534There are a few things that I pick out that are like, cannot miss sessions.01:26.054 --> 01:27.975But I also, this might be a little strange.01:28.575 --> 01:32.156I kind of watch the social media traffic too while I'm at CSM.01:32.256 --> 01:39.919So I actually started getting on Twitter at CSM because they were showing tweets on the screens in the lobbies.01:40.519 --> 01:59.351and people would be tweeting from sessions and i was like wait what i need to go hear what's happening in that room yeah so i kind of have a mixed bag but i'm way way more chill about my planning methods than in the past at least pretty sure what is your avatar for selecting csm sessions a lot of time and energy and money wrapped up in it how do you pick02:00.137 --> 02:07.721Well, I'm pretty biased because I also like pre-vet the sessions that I'm interested in by having them on my own podcast.02:07.861 --> 02:14.565And that kind of helps me like sift through.02:14.945 --> 02:16.966I wish I could go to every single session.02:17.166 --> 02:18.167That's not realistic.02:18.587 --> 02:23.270So what I do is I will go through and I will pick out the sessions that are interesting to me.02:23.370 --> 02:25.911And I've learned to branch out of oncology.02:26.312 --> 02:28.793And then I will do the day before sessions.02:29.173 --> 02:36.538Usually like as I'm at the airport or as I'm at the hotel, I'll go through it and have like one or two for every session.02:36.618 --> 02:40.020Kind of like Rebecca, where if I go to one and it's a dud, I've got a backup.02:40.180 --> 02:44.783Or if I go to one and it's full, I've got a backup and I've just I've got it queued up in the app.02:45.475 --> 02:46.036I do a mix.02:46.216 --> 02:49.859I ask people what they're doing, what they're excited for, and then I sort of map it out.02:50.059 --> 02:58.846And then I also wing it to where, listen, as a presenter, as someone who presents pretty regularly, if you're in the room and it ain't for you, I'm not offended if you leave.02:59.026 --> 02:59.727I'm just not.03:00.087 --> 03:05.792You are spending, and I'm pausing after I use the word, spending time and paying attention.03:06.012 --> 03:07.954And you can only really be in one session at a time.03:08.674 --> 03:18.461Uh, so go to the one, if you are in the wrong room, if you're just like, this isn't what it matched the description, which also tells people, right, really act, write better descriptions to get better butts in seats.03:18.781 --> 03:25.886So the goal is just some insights from us, what we're looking at, uh, to plan out our own CSMs.03:26.586 --> 03:28.147And some of us are speaking, right?03:28.207 --> 03:29.208We're speaking at CSM.03:30.389 --> 03:35.692So if you're not mentioning that, if you're not pre-promoting to get butts in your seats, why are you going to CSM to talk?03:35.752 --> 03:36.533Like, what are you doing here?03:37.059 --> 03:37.499What are you doing?03:38.020 --> 03:42.202I've been talking about my talk for, talking about my talk, very meta, for a couple weeks now.03:42.582 --> 03:43.482Be excited about it.03:43.542 --> 03:44.103Talk about it.03:44.203 --> 03:49.245If you think you're giving away too much, spoiler alert, you're not.03:49.906 --> 03:50.306You're not.03:50.386 --> 03:51.807You're not giving away too much.03:51.967 --> 03:55.428I can't see who this person is just because of the interface we're using.03:55.448 --> 03:57.610Go to sessions that are not being recorded by APTA.03:57.630 --> 03:58.370You can watch those later.03:58.730 --> 03:59.551That is a great idea.03:59.871 --> 04:01.832That is a terribly efficient strategy.04:03.052 --> 04:04.033So let's go.04:04.153 --> 04:05.814Rebecca, Elise, Jimmy.04:07.318 --> 04:10.360Rebecca, what is a session you're like, this is what I'm going to.04:10.380 --> 04:11.401I think you can't miss.04:11.441 --> 04:12.241And then like, why?04:13.442 --> 04:21.448OK, so I picked out like kind of one for each day, but I'm going to choose one of them that I thought was super applicable to what I do in the emergency department.04:22.489 --> 04:25.150And it's called it's on Friday at 8 a.m.04:25.551 --> 04:29.613and it's the Home Health Academy and it's called Invisible.04:29.734 --> 04:35.618How do I identify and support overwhelmed caregivers for improved patient outcomes and rehospitalization rates?04:36.238 --> 04:41.023I see so many patients that come in with their caregivers who are burned out, they're exhausted.04:41.143 --> 04:44.987Sometimes they literally drop their family member off at the hospital and peace out.04:45.588 --> 04:56.319So I'm really interested to see what I can learn from this, how I can help screen for that so that I help decrease bounce back and make sure that I'm making an effective discharge plan for these patients.04:56.758 --> 05:02.020I do think it's ironic or I did think it was ironic the first time I went to CSM because it was combined sections meeting.05:02.400 --> 05:03.561And I was like, y'all come together.05:03.641 --> 05:04.301It's combined.05:04.341 --> 05:04.882This is great.05:04.962 --> 05:05.562Like Voltron.05:05.582 --> 05:07.943And then we split up into sections and academies.05:08.363 --> 05:16.207But go what Rebecca is suggesting is go to something that is outside of your silo, outside of your because you need to pull thing.05:16.607 --> 05:17.787Likely 364 days a year you're focused on.05:20.697 --> 05:22.278PT and the ED or oncology.05:23.318 --> 05:27.840So maybe touch a little bit, spend a little bit of time doing something else.05:28.080 --> 05:30.721Do you want to give a nod to who the presenters are?05:30.781 --> 05:32.022Let's... Yeah, let me see.05:32.142 --> 05:35.183So the primary or the only speaker is Julie Crenshaw.05:35.783 --> 05:40.845And she is a board certified in geriatric physical therapy.05:40.925 --> 05:44.427And she actually is an author of a book series called Learn to Care for Aging Parents.05:45.546 --> 05:48.469which I think probably all of us could relate to that a little bit.05:49.210 --> 05:49.450Yeah.05:49.910 --> 05:50.591Yeah.05:50.991 --> 05:57.037So that's going to be my, like my wheelhouse, but in my wheelhouse, call me, let's have a drink, Julie.05:58.458 --> 06:00.320Also say this, this is a blanket thing.06:01.882 --> 06:05.185If you get something from a presenter, write them an email.06:06.698 --> 06:30.013yes like as a human to human it means a lot it also tells people hey this was good maybe you want to make more of that stuff do that again so as a human to human because you're a couple clicks away man we have never been more flat in terms of like connected write the presenter an email if you enjoyed it say thank you i enjoyed it doesn't have to be 20 pages would you enjoy06:30.993 --> 06:33.134And then maybe like, hey, would have loved if you did this.06:33.815 --> 06:37.097As a presenter or someone who creates stuff, I love that stuff.06:37.257 --> 06:37.977So write, Julie.06:38.197 --> 06:39.018Write, Rebecca.06:39.678 --> 06:40.338Write her an email.06:40.999 --> 06:41.259I will.06:41.759 --> 06:44.221Elise, what is your first... Wait, when is that one again?06:44.241 --> 06:45.141Make sure people know when that is.06:45.161 --> 06:47.343That one is on Friday at 8 a.m.06:47.923 --> 06:48.883It's a hot time.06:49.003 --> 06:50.244People come in hot.06:50.925 --> 06:52.265Get to the Starbucks line.06:54.487 --> 06:55.867Don't save money on a hotel room.06:55.887 --> 06:58.469Just bring a sleeping bag and lay in line for the Starbucks.06:58.769 --> 06:59.870Elise, what's your first pick?07:01.081 --> 07:08.787So I'm really looking forward to the peripartum cardiovascular health disparities and how physical therapists play a vital role across settings.07:09.287 --> 07:13.810So that session is taking place also on Friday, 3 p.m.07:14.271 --> 07:21.116And the speakers are Rebecca Seagraves, Jenna Seagraves, Allison Satauke-Hemstreet, and Catherine Sylvester and Nika Hall.07:21.556 --> 07:33.789So there's a lot in there, but what I super, super love about this and what I've come to realize in my own practice after years of going to CSM and only doing oncology program is that even though oncology is pretty comprehensive,07:34.807 --> 08:02.658there's a lot that i was missing and what i have really realized personally in my own practice is the majority of women that i see like a the majority of patients i see are women after a breast cancer diagnosis and i would say 95 of them have also birthed a child and or been pregnant at some point and i genuinely had no inkling of understanding of how much cardiovascularly they are being impacted08:03.038 --> 08:18.306But what I did know is that chemo is cardiotoxic and I never put it together that we have a double whammy of cardiotoxicities that are absolutely affecting my patients, not just here and now, but also 10, 20 years down the road.08:18.506 --> 08:26.771And that is actually a bigger impact on mortality in long-term survivalship than sometimes the cancer itself.08:27.391 --> 08:28.252So big deal for me.08:28.806 --> 08:32.668So you're thinking one, two, 10, 20 steps ahead and saying, okay, great.08:32.749 --> 08:38.952So I am comfortable in this area, but what can I get from the smorgasbord?08:38.993 --> 08:44.736This isn't all you can eat buffet, but not all you can eat because time is, time is not, it's finite.08:44.756 --> 08:45.777It's not infinite.08:46.077 --> 08:48.138We actually say infinite, but it's finite.08:48.158 --> 08:48.839Isn't that funny?08:49.199 --> 08:52.101It's like we say Arkansas and Kansas, but not Arkansas.08:53.482 --> 08:55.283But so it's, your time is finite.08:56.334 --> 08:57.235It's not infinite.08:57.555 --> 08:58.616I'm not sure why we say that.08:59.136 --> 09:00.337And did you say the author?09:00.377 --> 09:01.518I had to take my headphones out for a second.09:01.538 --> 09:02.438Did you say who the author is?09:02.859 --> 09:02.959Yeah.09:02.999 --> 09:03.199Yeah.09:03.219 --> 09:04.220So I'll shout them out again.09:04.300 --> 09:09.823So it's Rebecca Seagraves, Jenna Seagraves, Allison Sikauke, Hem Street, Catherine Sylvester, and Mika Hall.09:10.164 --> 09:10.404Okay.09:10.584 --> 09:10.804Sorry.09:10.944 --> 09:11.625That's a dream team.09:12.425 --> 09:14.187I mean, for real, for real.09:14.447 --> 09:17.310Do you do that sometimes when you scroll through APTA programming?09:17.370 --> 09:19.472Are you looking for names you recognize topics?09:19.512 --> 09:20.553Do you search by day?09:20.593 --> 09:21.233Like, how do you do it?09:21.293 --> 09:21.794How do you do it?09:21.974 --> 09:22.454I do a lot.09:22.514 --> 09:23.475I just sort of shock.09:23.515 --> 09:27.379To be honest, if Dr. Lisa Van Hoose is speaking, I go to everything that she's presenting.09:27.479 --> 09:29.421So I already I look this morning.09:29.921 --> 09:30.722Do you look for people?09:30.802 --> 09:31.824People are your guideposts.09:31.844 --> 09:40.315Sometimes I do because they're the people that leave me feeling like inspired, motivated, and committed to our profession and challenge me to be better.09:40.395 --> 09:43.038So yeah, there are some people that I will go to whatever they present.09:43.579 --> 09:44.260Do you do that too, Elise?09:45.369 --> 09:53.375So I'm going to double up on Dr. Lisa Van Hoose because she always gives presentations that make me uncomfortable in the moment.09:54.016 --> 09:57.878And then I walk out and I'm like, whoa, that was really good.09:58.179 --> 10:01.461And I'm charged to go and do something else, right?10:01.961 --> 10:09.107But I would say, listen, she's probably the only one that I do that with because I'm also a really big believer of...10:09.947 --> 10:28.295there tends to be a little bit of like the same people tend to present every year and so i like to look at who's new who have i not talked about so i'm more of a topic yeah focused person and then i'll look into you know like is dr lisa van who's presenting etc10:29.622 --> 10:32.345Listen, man, it's what people do for concerts.10:32.465 --> 10:33.226Who's the headliner?10:33.306 --> 10:34.327Who are the bands?10:34.388 --> 10:36.850Who are the bands I kind of know but want to know more about?10:36.930 --> 10:40.314Like, we want to see this band before everybody knew it was cool.10:40.394 --> 10:43.498This is also a nod for why we practice our presentation skills.10:43.578 --> 10:45.460Why is Lisa Van Hoose a really, really good speaker?10:46.220 --> 10:48.964I'm not going to speak for her, but I'm going to guess it's repetition.10:49.004 --> 10:49.585Like she cared.10:50.086 --> 10:53.471And then she was like, the first time I spoke, I wasn't that great, but I wanted to be.10:53.491 --> 10:54.753And then the second time I was a little less.10:55.054 --> 10:57.458And then all of a sudden Lisa Van Hoose is who you see.10:57.778 --> 11:00.002She also does it a lot, which is why people know her.11:00.896 --> 11:06.180So as Dave Grohl from the Foo Fighters would say, like, you want to be a great band, just go play, just get in front of people, right?11:06.220 --> 11:08.161Don't sit in your house and just release stuff online.11:09.002 --> 11:12.864Also, well, now you can release stuff online from your house, but neither rinse repeat.11:13.365 --> 11:16.066So I'm going to go with a couple sessions.11:16.467 --> 11:17.968One is this one was canceled.11:18.550 --> 11:19.090Dang it.11:19.730 --> 11:20.731Oh, recon.11:21.131 --> 11:26.432And I'm going to make a pitch right now to Justin and Donnelly and Jonathan.11:26.452 --> 11:29.313I actually already emailed Donnelly Fraunfelter.11:29.633 --> 11:32.514This was something that I tried to get on the show a couple of years ago.11:32.534 --> 11:33.854And I'm dumbfounded.11:33.914 --> 11:36.215This was well, it's canceled because not enough people said they would come.11:36.615 --> 11:37.235That's just something.11:37.535 --> 11:38.836Sometimes it happens for this precon.11:39.296 --> 11:42.797And this was medical improv for physical therapists and PTAs level one.11:43.433 --> 11:50.160So I think communication just talked about speaking is the you know, if you want to be a better speaker, you don't need more listeners.11:50.180 --> 11:50.761You need to speak more.11:51.662 --> 11:53.984If you want to be a better communicator, you have to do it.11:54.064 --> 11:58.328And you have to also piggyback on you have to do something that's uncomfortable, uncomfortable in the moment.11:58.649 --> 12:00.551Listen, I am a pretty comfortable speaker.12:00.571 --> 12:04.154I like doing things that are on off the cuff improv.12:04.895 --> 12:06.215still makes me uncomfortable.12:06.275 --> 12:07.316It's not making you uncomfortable.12:07.356 --> 12:08.076It's not hard enough.12:08.476 --> 12:10.177But that's like the good part, right?12:10.557 --> 12:14.178So a little disappointed that one wasn't done.12:14.318 --> 12:23.280But hey, Justin, Lisa, we could do a live stream and we could reach more people than you could actually reach in an entire day.12:23.360 --> 12:27.241It's going to be in a different way, podcast live stream, but we could reach more people.12:27.261 --> 12:32.123So that was one that I was like, oh man, that one isn't being shared.12:32.163 --> 12:33.343So now I'll go to one12:34.563 --> 12:56.512that is so let me share this one so this one is called I brought notes developing therapeutic alliance in digital health when physical therapists become consultants and this is like ooh I feel like a lot of people are gonna look at this you called me a consultant that's like a sales word and I don't like it and I don't I12:57.173 --> 12:57.554I don't know.12:57.574 --> 13:03.904So the description reads, current literature suggests telehealth can be an effective model in managing musculoskeletal conditions.13:04.325 --> 13:07.991And again, in 2020 in Denver, we were like, that's probably like 20 years from now.13:08.111 --> 13:10.255And then we were like, I feel like it's now.13:11.118 --> 13:22.347And despite the recent establishment of clinical competencies in PT telehealth practice, educational programming on applying best practices in digital health, it's lacking within the profession.13:22.507 --> 13:23.268How do you do it?13:23.568 --> 13:24.269How do you do it right?13:24.969 --> 13:33.476So Heather Lauren Broach, Chris Martin, and Mary Reichel Kimbrough are going to be presenting Developing Therapeutic Alliance in Digital Health When PTs Become Consultants.13:34.016 --> 13:36.118That's on February at 8 a.m.13:36.398 --> 13:36.819as well.13:37.099 --> 13:39.541I'm looking forward to that because this is a thing.13:40.495 --> 13:41.395We jumped into it.13:41.596 --> 13:46.278I don't know if the cart was before the horse, but the container was before the instruction manual was written.13:46.298 --> 13:48.459But sometimes that's where the best, that's where innovation lives, right?13:48.499 --> 13:49.519Necessities of other invention.13:49.839 --> 13:52.240So I want to see what is the best literature, right?13:52.280 --> 13:54.101I consider myself a pretty good communicator.13:54.141 --> 13:54.682Can I be better?13:55.222 --> 13:55.442Yeah.13:55.982 --> 13:56.582Yeah, we all can.13:56.943 --> 13:58.063So that is my first question.13:58.983 --> 14:01.665I'm always for any topic on therapeutic alliance too.14:01.805 --> 14:08.088And if you can, I feel like if you could develop therapeutic alliance really well digitally, hopefully that would also translate to in-person work as well.14:08.148 --> 14:08.368Yeah.14:09.042 --> 14:09.863Yes, they are.14:09.883 --> 14:11.284They are similar, but not the same.14:11.724 --> 14:12.044Right.14:12.424 --> 14:15.967You know, and I was talking about this with someone I can't remember if it was on an episode or not.14:15.987 --> 14:24.012When you know you record a lot of podcasts, when you have no idea is that they're similar, but not the same.14:24.052 --> 14:25.033And they require skill sets.14:25.053 --> 14:26.794Like there's a thing called like Zoom fatigue.14:26.834 --> 14:29.195Like I'm just used to doing.14:29.576 --> 14:34.359How can you maximize the connection to get the results you're actually looking for?14:34.559 --> 14:36.560And there are best practices for that.14:36.600 --> 14:38.902So that was pretty cool to see PTs sort of embracing that.14:40.103 --> 14:42.644Rebecca, you're up with your next pick.14:42.664 --> 14:42.865Okay.14:43.225 --> 14:44.826I cannot wait to hear what you guys think about this.14:45.146 --> 14:48.789This one is on Thursday, February 15th at 8 a.m.14:49.789 --> 14:53.352And it's called, it's a vibe, a revolution of the PT experience.14:53.932 --> 14:54.533What does that mean?14:54.593 --> 14:55.013It's a vibe.14:55.033 --> 14:56.094That's a term the kids use.14:56.154 --> 14:57.995I'm going to read you a little bit from the description.14:58.996 --> 15:00.056And then you can tell me what you think.15:00.236 --> 15:06.621The first thing is, when was the last time you walked into a healthcare facility and went, dang, this place has a vibe?15:07.201 --> 15:08.042Most likely never.15:08.062 --> 15:08.162Never.15:09.537 --> 15:12.919And it goes on to say, we are missing the wow.15:13.640 --> 15:21.425This session will explore the ideology and culture of providing high quality PT interventions in what traditionalists may call an unorthodox setting.15:22.046 --> 15:28.110From the high performance team culture to the banging music to the ping pong table and slack lines with a cheers leg vibe.15:28.691 --> 15:33.094Disruptive practices have proven successful in a David versus Goliath industry.15:33.474 --> 15:34.495Being different is cool.15:34.755 --> 15:38.598Diversifying services is valued and focusing on experience is treasured.15:39.338 --> 15:40.699Learn how to create a vibe.15:40.719 --> 15:42.821I mean, the ED is its own vibe.15:42.841 --> 15:49.825So I don't know if I'm going to be ping-ponging, but I kind of want to go to this because I want to know.15:49.845 --> 15:51.306I mean, it's a vibe.15:51.326 --> 15:53.308Elise.15:54.408 --> 15:56.490First of all, I love the title already.15:56.510 --> 16:00.012The description has captivated me.16:00.373 --> 16:01.373That was not on my radar.16:01.874 --> 16:02.954It's on my radar now.16:03.475 --> 16:06.176I do feel like as a patient...16:06.937 --> 16:10.780like, cause I have employed a physical therapist for my own problems.16:11.381 --> 16:17.927I do feel like the majority of clinics I walk into are stuck in 1995 and that's not a bad year.16:18.367 --> 16:20.129Like, listen, the nineties were a great year.16:20.149 --> 16:22.010They were great for the nineties.16:22.331 --> 16:32.860Like, and it does, like, I do feel like maybe that has in part hampered some of our progress because we have like, we have an aesthetic issue that like,16:34.608 --> 16:39.133You know, it does kind of bleed into sometimes how we do things in PT.16:39.153 --> 16:40.515So I'm here for it.16:40.735 --> 16:41.256Let's go.16:41.556 --> 16:42.397Let's go, Rebecca.16:43.158 --> 16:43.658I know.16:43.678 --> 16:54.711I think that we are social animals and we like to say we're different and unique and then we wind up doing similar things.16:56.350 --> 16:57.371watch how people present.16:57.411 --> 17:01.212They watch people present, and then they present the same way or similar way.17:01.272 --> 17:03.373But they sit in the audience and they want different.17:04.094 --> 17:07.095So this, to me, is a parallel, which is like, I want different.17:07.495 --> 17:08.996We don't really sell a product.17:09.276 --> 17:10.317We sell a service.17:11.117 --> 17:12.498And that service has vibe.17:12.618 --> 17:17.480And when I walk into A clinic or B clinic, there are differences.17:17.660 --> 17:21.302It should tell you... This is like feng shui.17:21.362 --> 17:22.682How do you create a vibe?17:23.043 --> 17:23.163And17:24.065 --> 17:25.065That should be intentional.17:25.266 --> 17:27.747I want people to feel emotion, emotion, emotion.17:29.067 --> 17:30.068Show me how you're doing that.17:30.388 --> 17:31.448Well, we're all chill.17:31.488 --> 17:34.970And on our website, it's and I'm like, no, that's not repeatable.17:35.210 --> 17:36.091There's no plan there.17:36.511 --> 17:45.935It sounds like this presentation is going to be like, hey, if you want to project this, you should pay attention to A, B and C. That's cool.17:45.975 --> 17:49.937I don't think I've heard of this type of present, which presentation before, which is cool and exciting.17:50.829 --> 17:54.792Yeah, and it's private practice section, which is interesting.17:55.513 --> 18:03.598And the other thing I think that maybe the goal here too is to not only bring a vibe into your community, but bring community into your vibe.18:03.658 --> 18:06.460So if you can make people feel like they belong.18:07.441 --> 18:08.282It's not clinical.18:08.342 --> 18:10.603Like when I go to my doctor's office, they're very polite.18:10.643 --> 18:11.704I don't feel like I belong there.18:11.724 --> 18:13.606I see them maybe twice a year.18:14.126 --> 18:16.888When I go into my PT clinic, I feel like people know me.18:16.968 --> 18:17.849I'm comfortable there.18:17.949 --> 18:20.050I love the environment that they have there.18:20.070 --> 18:20.811It's a vibe.18:21.611 --> 18:26.735So I actually, I really kind of love the idea of this, especially if you're creating your own business.18:28.697 --> 18:30.058Do you guys have an Applebee's near you?18:31.158 --> 18:31.779It closed.18:31.799 --> 18:32.039Yeah.18:32.529 --> 18:32.889Really?18:33.070 --> 18:38.434That's like, but when you walk into an Applebee's, cause Rebecca, you're in Colorado, at least you're in Texas.18:38.894 --> 18:39.175Correct.18:39.475 --> 18:41.877And I'm in New York, but I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark.18:41.897 --> 18:49.043When you walk into an Applebee's in Texas, there are local high school football helmets and field hockey jerseys and things on the wall.18:49.623 --> 18:50.564Yeah.18:50.604 --> 18:51.304Very intentional.18:51.645 --> 18:52.906They are being very obvious.18:54.329 --> 19:01.396They are saying, we're just your local restaurant that, by the way, you recognize the name when you're driving across the country or going from town to town.19:01.696 --> 19:02.537It's very intentional.19:02.617 --> 19:03.358It's very obvious.19:04.719 --> 19:09.244So those are the things, which is if you want to bring, what was that again?19:09.284 --> 19:10.965You said you want to bring your community.19:11.686 --> 19:18.793They say you're bringing a vibe to your community, but I'm saying you're also going to bring community into your vibe to make people feel like they belong there.19:19.221 --> 19:20.182Isn't that the thing?19:20.262 --> 19:21.382What are you projecting?19:21.402 --> 19:25.625Do you have a bunch of cubicle-type office furniture from, again, 1995?19:25.705 --> 19:29.827Nothing wrong with 1995, but I'm not going to start wearing clothes from 1995 again.19:31.168 --> 19:32.329Not for 20 more years.19:32.389 --> 19:33.529That's when they come back in style.19:34.510 --> 19:35.250Now, Jimmy.19:35.270 --> 19:37.051Is it now?19:37.432 --> 19:38.552That's 30 years ago.19:38.572 --> 19:40.794I'm not good with your math.19:40.894 --> 19:42.214I'm not going to lie.19:42.314 --> 19:43.915I'm actively wearing platform boots.19:44.796 --> 19:46.677Rebecca, bring your microphone a little closer to you.19:48.297 --> 19:48.817No, it's okay.19:48.837 --> 19:49.658We want to hear your voice.19:50.639 --> 19:51.539Is it on an arm?19:51.619 --> 19:52.120Can you move it?19:54.401 --> 19:55.442Now you've muted everything.19:55.562 --> 19:56.102Oh, no.19:57.243 --> 20:02.947So in an effort to get Rebecca to be heard more, you might have to plug it back in or play around.20:02.967 --> 20:04.388Well, anyway, it's Elise's turn anyway.20:04.428 --> 20:05.529Rebecca, play with your audio.20:05.549 --> 20:07.870Elise, what do you have for your second pick for CSF?20:08.451 --> 20:11.573Yeah, so my second pick is in the oncology section.20:11.593 --> 20:11.773Okay.20:13.092 --> 20:14.254I hear an echo now.20:14.295 --> 20:14.755Go ahead, Lisa.20:20.208 --> 20:26.532So the next one that I have is in the oncology section and it's called Navigating the Complex Situations and Conversations.20:26.692 --> 20:29.374And that is happening on Saturday at 8 a.m.20:29.794 --> 20:34.978And that is with Lori Bowright and Chris Wilson, who are kind of giants in the oncology field.20:35.598 --> 20:41.402And what I really like about this, and this is something that actually Rebecca touched on previously and I want to bring back.20:41.842 --> 20:49.928As a new clinician, I would pick out the sessions to try and get the most information possible on what to know.20:50.969 --> 20:52.971What are the cancer treatments being used?20:53.211 --> 20:54.553What are the side effects?20:54.913 --> 20:58.317What are the specific prescriptions for exercise?20:58.357 --> 21:00.039We should be dosing, et cetera, et cetera.21:00.559 --> 21:06.266And I like what we were talking about previously, which is kind of, you know, the therapeutic alliance.21:06.366 --> 21:09.950And this is kind of along those lines of how can I show up as a better human?21:11.303 --> 21:20.114as a therapist for my patient in a very, very challenging and vulnerable environment that is oncology, but I mean like also other areas.21:20.595 --> 21:23.058And so I'm really, really excited about that one.21:23.118 --> 21:26.842There's going to be some practical application to like practicing and21:27.483 --> 21:31.224And I have to say, I'm going to bring it back to a CSM several years ago.21:31.364 --> 21:33.705I went to an oncology talk on sex.21:33.785 --> 21:39.367I don't remember the exact it was like gynecological something, but they made us in this other talk.21:39.967 --> 21:46.970They made us turn to our neighbor and ask and tell honestly and vulnerably, how is your sex life?21:47.610 --> 21:47.830Really?21:47.990 --> 21:51.031And that was uncomfortable.21:51.151 --> 21:53.992Again, like I have learned to lean into the uncomfortable.21:54.092 --> 21:55.113It was uncomfortable.21:55.213 --> 21:56.013It was vulnerable.21:56.613 --> 22:14.645But the person that I shared that conversation with was, it was like, wow, I get it now on sometimes when we're asking questions as the therapist and our patients maybe like are struggling to come up with an answer or uncomfortable answering that or just don't answer it in general.22:14.685 --> 22:17.346Like, man, that was such a catalyst for me.22:17.466 --> 22:25.552And I think this session, again, navigating the complex situations and tough conversations is going to be another one of those where I walk out and I'm like, oh,22:26.232 --> 22:27.053Oh, that was a good one.22:27.073 --> 22:28.514I can't wait to implement this.22:29.655 --> 22:30.296Becca, what do you think?22:30.416 --> 22:31.037How does that sound?22:31.217 --> 22:31.897I think it sounds good.22:32.398 --> 22:32.718And great.22:33.479 --> 22:34.840That is, can you hear me?22:35.281 --> 22:35.601We can.22:36.602 --> 22:42.487Okay, well, I like to think that complex conversations are really pretty simple.22:42.628 --> 22:44.349Once you kind of get over yourself a little bit.22:44.870 --> 22:49.094It's just like when when you started in PT school, do you remember the first time you had to touch somebody?22:49.114 --> 22:50.375Yep, it was awkward.22:50.737 --> 22:57.202And you were like, or the first time you had to be in your sports bra, standing there in front of everybody.22:57.222 --> 23:00.304I think once you kind of rip the bandaid off, it works pretty well.23:00.384 --> 23:10.772And I help in a PT school lab where we simulate really uncomfortable conversations with students and it's hard, but I think it's important.23:10.972 --> 23:12.673And then it's not, it doesn't feel so hard anymore.23:13.300 --> 23:23.566If you keep the conversation underneath the bed, like using that analogy, but if the big scary monster hiding under the bed or in the closet stays there, it gains power.23:24.307 --> 23:25.428It gains scariness.23:26.468 --> 23:29.830And when you can get over yourself, I think getting over your don't get over it.23:30.030 --> 23:33.333Get over yourself is the thing because you can actually control that one.23:34.193 --> 23:35.574And did you say who the authors were?23:35.794 --> 23:36.154Yeah, you did.23:36.194 --> 23:36.374Yes.23:36.735 --> 23:38.656So it's Laurie Bowright and Chris Wilson.23:39.770 --> 23:40.350That's pretty cool.23:40.851 --> 23:41.071Yeah.23:41.231 --> 23:42.612And we're going to share the links to all these.23:42.712 --> 23:44.314Can you just send me the links to all these sessions?23:44.354 --> 23:47.396I'll put them in the description so people can just make it clicky, clicky, clickable.23:47.837 --> 23:48.317Absolutely.23:48.337 --> 23:48.778All right.23:49.098 --> 23:49.999So is it my turn now?23:50.519 --> 23:50.679Yep.23:51.180 --> 23:54.282So I'm going to give, I'm bringing an extra one if you count, bringing four.23:54.302 --> 23:57.065So I'm going to give a nod to a poster.23:57.645 --> 23:57.985What?23:58.766 --> 23:59.086Love it.23:59.447 --> 24:00.367A poster?24:00.588 --> 24:01.669No one loves posters.24:02.389 --> 24:02.709I do.24:02.910 --> 24:07.974I actually ironically think that when APTA shares information on posters, why not put the image of the poster on the website?24:09.127 --> 24:09.708But whatever.24:09.988 --> 24:11.351We're actually doing that in Colorado.24:11.451 --> 24:12.953We're sharing posters with our members.24:12.973 --> 24:13.955Yeah, online.24:14.756 --> 24:18.663So this poster is, I'll give a nod to the presenters.24:18.683 --> 24:20.546This is Justin Mirzwicki.24:22.412 --> 24:25.733Joshua Klein, Brooke Satch, and Lauren Vandenberg.24:25.913 --> 24:32.474And the title is Loneliness Improved by Either Telephone or Video Communications in Community-Dwelling Older Adults.24:32.634 --> 24:40.355Essentially, 36% of community-dwelling older adults experience moderate loneliness and 6.6% experience severe loneliness.24:40.755 --> 24:42.535I would actually think it's more than that.24:42.756 --> 24:43.756That's underreported.24:43.976 --> 24:44.596That's my guess.24:45.456 --> 24:51.037And essentially, it's like loneliness and social frailty increases the risk of depression and cognitive impairment and mortality.24:52.228 --> 24:53.169How do we fix this?24:53.209 --> 24:56.631Well, we have phones and we got these things at FaceTime and video communicate.24:57.011 --> 24:58.433How do we play a part in this?24:58.573 --> 25:00.394And conclusion is their conclusion.25:00.434 --> 25:03.276I'll give it away because I don't think you can give too much information away.25:03.316 --> 25:04.137I think you have to give more.25:04.777 --> 25:10.941While close physical contact is typical of conventional physical therapy, health care professionals have the potential.25:10.961 --> 25:12.983I'm talking to you have the potential.25:13.843 --> 25:15.824To improve loneliness using remote interventions.25:16.104 --> 25:19.765These things that you're holding that's never more than a foot and a half away from you.25:20.145 --> 25:33.168The study that they looked at suggested that remote interventions can facilitate improvement in loneliness independent of the type of modality utilized, which minimizes cognitive impairment, mortality, frailty, and increased risk of depression.25:33.749 --> 25:35.369So reach out and touch someone.25:35.609 --> 25:37.189Was that AT&T back in the day?25:37.229 --> 25:37.850That was their slogan?25:37.870 --> 25:38.770Reach out and touch someone.25:39.209 --> 25:41.630Remember when long-distance calls used to cost more?25:41.811 --> 25:43.091It would be like, who are you calling?25:43.552 --> 25:47.774A local call costs nothing or maybe a little bit, and then a long-distance call.25:48.274 --> 25:51.476And now it's like you can call Japan and whatever.25:51.516 --> 25:52.157It's the same thing.25:53.938 --> 25:57.120But how do you do that as a clinician to improve those things?25:57.160 --> 25:58.200How do you use this tool?25:58.220 --> 25:58.801This is a tool.25:59.381 --> 26:00.021How can you use it?26:00.081 --> 26:01.382So I gave a nod to a poster.26:04.004 --> 26:05.464And should I do my other session now as well?26:06.205 --> 26:07.265And then we have to pimp our own.26:07.526 --> 26:07.866You have to...26:08.857 --> 26:09.377Push your own.26:09.978 --> 26:10.318All right.26:10.338 --> 26:17.002So the last one I had, obviously, I've been talking about it a lot and I've been getting a lot of DMs from people, which is kind of cool because I've done a couple episodes on this.26:17.342 --> 26:21.045This one is Thursday, February 15th, 11 to 1, the lunchtime session.26:21.605 --> 26:28.990And the title, very Dr. Seussical, AI, oh my, how chat GPT can rehab your workflow and research outcomes.26:29.770 --> 26:30.991So it's a two-hour session.26:31.572 --> 26:32.452They're using the word.26:32.572 --> 26:33.513And so here's the best part.26:33.533 --> 26:47.945If you look at the description, in this thought-provoking two-hour session, we'll delve into the transformative potential of artificial intelligence, particularly the cutting-edge large language model chat GPT and its implications for the world of rehabilitation, research, and workflows.26:48.626 --> 26:55.492I am going to go out on a limb, and I'm going to go all in and say this description was written by AI because no human uses the word delve ever.26:56.152 --> 26:57.253But AI loves it.26:57.513 --> 27:00.395I actually now use prompts when I use AI and I say do not use.27:00.415 --> 27:01.495I have a do not use.27:02.096 --> 27:02.536Yes.27:02.956 --> 27:06.078And delve number one because delve is the game.27:06.378 --> 27:09.820But I also like the fact that they used AI to write the description because it's super meta.27:10.420 --> 27:11.881So this is fantastic.27:12.642 --> 27:17.565Gabriel, Elaine, James, Patrick, Crick, Catherine, Celeste, Quatman, Yates and Tim Reithorn.27:17.585 --> 27:18.045I know, Tim.27:18.745 --> 27:22.528How do you use this new tool that fell in everybody's lap to do the things?27:23.368 --> 27:51.370you don't have to be an expert on it i am not an expert on it but i'm like a kitten batting around a ball of yarn going i don't know i'm trying to figure this thing out and eventually people will and you don't need to be number one or even numbered 100 of the best people in the world to use a tool but you know how to use a tool you can refinish your house you can turn a 1970s raised ranch into uh something looks a little more modern you can do that with your practice so i like the fact that we are now discussing this thing that's sort of been ping-ponging around the world for a couple months27:54.336 --> 27:58.459And could that help with the vibes that Rebecca was talking about in that session?28:00.080 --> 28:01.781How do I increase hashtag vibes?28:03.982 --> 28:05.023How do I get better vibes?28:06.243 --> 28:07.024Good vibes only.28:08.285 --> 28:09.966I'm really interested to know what it would say.28:10.946 --> 28:12.547What ChatGPT would say?28:13.047 --> 28:14.028How do I increase your vibes?28:15.509 --> 28:21.693How do I increase the vibes of my PT clinic?28:22.153 --> 28:23.694Do you want increase or improve?28:24.207 --> 28:24.807I don't know.28:24.867 --> 28:26.788I wrote increase, but I can ask it again.28:26.808 --> 28:27.929It's thinking.28:28.269 --> 28:29.290It does it very quickly.28:29.310 --> 28:29.870I like it.28:30.970 --> 28:36.833So it goes, it says, enhancing the vibes of atmosphere of your PT clinic can significantly improve patient experience and satisfaction.28:36.933 --> 28:37.874Here are several strategies.28:37.934 --> 28:39.314At no point has it said delve yet.28:39.855 --> 28:41.235Welcoming, I'll just give you the high notes.28:41.335 --> 28:48.199Welcoming and comfortable environment, personal touches, engaging and empathetic staff, and patient-centered care.28:48.339 --> 28:52.681I mean, none of these things are revolutionary, but when you, oh, use of technology as well.28:54.301 --> 28:55.081No ping pong tables?28:55.581 --> 28:56.822Relaxing atmosphere.28:56.842 --> 28:57.282What did you say?28:57.302 --> 28:57.562Tables?28:57.862 --> 28:58.622Ping pong tables.28:58.842 --> 28:59.742Ping pong tables.28:59.822 --> 29:02.223Remember every tech startup had a ping pong, a foosball table?29:02.303 --> 29:03.263It was like, come work here.29:03.343 --> 29:03.623Why?29:04.343 --> 29:05.323We'll pay you a little bit.29:05.343 --> 29:07.924We'll give you stock options and a ping pong table.29:08.084 --> 29:12.064Everybody plays ping pong for like once and then they're like, I'm good.29:12.845 --> 29:15.445So I like how that's focused on the vibes.29:15.785 --> 29:16.745So anyway, that's AI.29:17.806 --> 29:19.486That's one of them I'm going to.29:20.565 --> 29:23.046Do you guys have any more or is it time to talk about ourselves now?29:23.146 --> 29:25.426We've waited long enough to bring ego into this.29:26.006 --> 29:28.227I mean, I have one more though.29:29.827 --> 29:36.268It's called building a moral practitioner community strategies to strengthen the profession.29:36.828 --> 29:37.428So what does that mean?29:38.129 --> 29:39.749Well, I don't know.29:39.769 --> 29:44.150This is a description that I feel like is not super clear.29:44.290 --> 29:48.511It says we need more than clinical skills to navigate complex ethical situations.29:51.314 --> 29:58.448it says envisioning PTs as a moral community could be a robust structure for addressing social, economic, and political forces.29:58.468 --> 29:58.508Um,30:01.385 --> 30:02.405So it's interesting.30:02.486 --> 30:10.009They're going to kind of do it as like a fireside interview with a panel of different leaders from the APTA Ethics and Judicial Committee.30:10.029 --> 30:10.929Who are the people?30:11.829 --> 30:14.811The primary speaker is Dr. Gil Jensen.30:15.031 --> 30:29.257We have Ruth Pertillo, Rebecca Dittweiler, Aliyah Chaudhry, Robert Tillman, Roger Herr, Laura Lee Swisher, Deborah Gorman, Bader Chaley, Engelhardt,30:30.185 --> 30:32.609Kimberly Varnado and Rhea Cohn.30:33.310 --> 30:35.453So lots of good speakers there.30:35.854 --> 30:41.522I'm really interested on this specific piece of strategies to strengthen the profession.30:41.562 --> 30:42.704It doesn't really say how they...30:43.993 --> 30:44.754would do that.30:44.814 --> 30:57.724But I'm interested in that, especially as we have drama every year around the House of Delegates and whether moral issues are the role of the House of Delegates, whether the APTA should be involved in moral considerations.30:58.004 --> 31:00.266And I think healthcare is a moral consideration.31:02.088 --> 31:03.149So I'm interested in this.31:03.609 --> 31:04.450I'm curious.31:05.011 --> 31:06.612I hope it goes well, and here's why.31:06.632 --> 31:15.480As someone who interviews people for two professions worth of livings, fireside chats and panels are difficult.31:16.100 --> 31:17.742This is like trying to...31:19.124 --> 31:22.126get a bunch of people to dance, not say the same things.31:22.226 --> 31:23.807Cause you don't want, you definitely don't want that.31:23.867 --> 31:26.349You don't want, yeah, pretty much what Elise said.31:26.389 --> 31:32.273And then I'll add pretty much the same thing again, that can get redundant and boring or somebody hogs the money.31:32.293 --> 31:34.294There's just a lot of things that can go sideways.31:34.314 --> 31:36.535Cause how many people did you say were on that panel?31:37.896 --> 31:43.500So that, I mean, I'll even tell people like, cause look at the setup of this show, me plus Elise plus Rebecca, um,31:43.920 --> 31:50.066I'd say we might be able to get one more, but also you two each individually host your own podcasts regularly.31:50.186 --> 31:51.268So you're sort of savvy.31:52.229 --> 31:54.731And so I get nervous when I see things like this.31:54.891 --> 31:58.395It looks like by adding more people, you're adding more insight.31:58.535 --> 32:02.379But my thing is you're actually dividing the amount of insight you can get from each person.32:03.097 --> 32:04.197So you got Roger Herr on there.32:04.257 --> 32:08.019So you're going to get cool APTA insights in what they're actually doing.32:08.759 --> 32:10.160I would be curious.32:10.180 --> 32:11.320I'm not downplaying it.32:11.420 --> 32:15.902I'm saying there's a potential for danger, which also could make it... Curious.32:16.022 --> 32:16.242Yeah.32:16.402 --> 32:17.663And it's 11 people.32:18.803 --> 32:19.023Yeah.32:19.083 --> 32:19.804That's a lot.32:20.224 --> 32:21.504That's a lot of people.32:21.524 --> 32:24.686I mean, three's company?32:25.566 --> 32:26.526Four's a crowd or three's company?32:26.546 --> 32:27.167Three's company.32:27.367 --> 32:28.067Three's company.32:28.530 --> 32:30.992Yeah, which John Ritter, rest in peace.32:31.052 --> 32:32.073That was a funny dude.32:32.173 --> 32:34.254He was Jim Carrey before Jim Carrey was Jim Carrey.32:34.414 --> 32:35.735John Ritter was nuts, man.32:36.336 --> 32:37.236He was off the wall.32:38.257 --> 32:39.158So three's company.32:39.758 --> 32:40.779And that's what we're doing right now.32:40.859 --> 32:42.980And I do this with Dave Kittle and Tony Maritato too.32:43.080 --> 32:45.282Three is good.32:45.522 --> 32:46.403Four is good.32:46.523 --> 32:46.763Yeah.32:47.163 --> 32:47.984Four gets hard.32:48.244 --> 32:49.105Five is...32:50.354 --> 32:51.294And I've cautioned people.32:51.354 --> 32:52.655I've moderated panels.32:52.755 --> 32:54.996And I'm just like, I'm telling you, I'm a point guard now.32:55.576 --> 32:57.496Trying to pass the ball to five people?32:59.397 --> 32:59.957That's not easy.33:00.998 --> 33:02.718Yeah, I'm interested to see how it goes.33:03.658 --> 33:06.019All right, Elise, talk about you.33:06.599 --> 33:08.760It's not egotistical because I told you to talk about you.33:09.867 --> 33:16.816So I am partnering with Andrea Brunas and Amber Chavez to present at 8 a.m.33:17.376 --> 33:20.160First session right off the bat, y'all, on Thursday.33:20.180 --> 33:20.260Yeah.33:21.442 --> 33:24.585So get excited because I'm a morning person.33:24.605 --> 33:24.886Yeah.33:25.066 --> 33:27.768I love presenting in the morning.33:28.008 --> 33:31.149And if you want some excitement, you're going to want to come to this.33:31.189 --> 33:37.453So our session is called pediatric lymphedema, improving lymphedema to improve mobility.33:38.033 --> 33:44.757And so what I really want people to take away from this is that this is not a exclusively pediatric session.33:44.797 --> 33:48.139This is not an exclusively oncology lymphedema session.33:48.559 --> 33:51.241This is really a combination of the best of both worlds.33:51.801 --> 33:57.886And what surprises me perhaps most of all is that I never intended to get into this area.33:58.407 --> 34:07.634But as I've continued practicing over the last almost six years, it has become wild and wildly apparent on how much this is a problem.34:08.455 --> 34:11.437And I like what Jimmy said earlier, which is, you know...34:12.618 --> 34:17.223Sometimes there's not always, you know, a clear solution from the problem.34:17.283 --> 34:20.746Sometimes the problem just happens and then you have to find a solution.34:20.826 --> 34:28.734And in this case, we've made the solution for a problem that is becoming very, very prominent and prevalent, much more so than we thought.34:29.175 --> 34:31.197I think that's always how real solutions happen.34:31.317 --> 34:32.738Like someone said smarter than me.34:32.758 --> 34:33.359And I always forget.34:33.519 --> 34:35.281I like I remember quotes, but I can't remember who said them.34:36.294 --> 34:42.156But the idea is like, you know, modern school, not to knock it, but they give you the lesson, then the test.34:42.296 --> 34:44.977But in life, it's the test, then you learn the lesson.34:45.537 --> 34:50.119But we reverse it and wonder why kids can't have the lesson stick.34:50.799 --> 34:54.841Because you haven't, I get burned and realize the stoves, don't touch that.34:55.521 --> 34:57.461But you can't yell, yell, yell, don't touch that.34:57.561 --> 34:58.922And then you get burned, you're confused.34:59.966 --> 35:01.107And that's the way it is, right?35:01.408 --> 35:04.332It's find a problem that everybody looks at it and says, not my problem.35:04.432 --> 35:05.013Solve that problem.35:05.033 --> 35:07.817That's the definition of innovation that I stole from David Petrino.35:07.857 --> 35:09.059I remember who said that one.35:09.880 --> 35:10.681So good for you.35:10.921 --> 35:11.602We'll share that link.35:11.822 --> 35:12.403Good for you.35:12.684 --> 35:15.588What time do you wake up when you present at eight o'clock in the morning?35:16.656 --> 35:19.158And remember, you're going to be Texas to Boston too.35:19.238 --> 35:19.518I know.35:20.018 --> 35:25.522I might have to update you on my answer because the whole East Coast thing is a little throwing me off there.35:25.542 --> 35:32.006I would say probably like 5.30 because I want to give myself extra, extra time to get there.35:32.326 --> 35:34.547I'm going to take the tea over from my hotel.35:34.607 --> 35:36.188So I got to have time for that.35:36.549 --> 35:39.991I have to make my tea and drink my tea in the morning.35:40.051 --> 35:41.692So lots of tea to plan for.35:41.712 --> 35:42.592I would get up at 7.15.35:42.632 --> 35:42.793Yeah.35:44.150 --> 35:46.931would walk in the room and be like, where's the screen?35:47.251 --> 35:47.791That's just me.35:47.811 --> 35:48.332I come in.35:48.372 --> 35:49.832Rebecca, talk about you.35:49.852 --> 35:51.133All right.35:51.493 --> 35:54.154I'm presenting two sessions this year at CSM.35:54.294 --> 35:56.735The first one is on Thursday at 11 a.m.35:57.275 --> 36:00.356So you can go see Elise and then you can come to our presentation next.36:00.376 --> 36:04.118I'm presenting with Dr. Mark Magdaleno and Dr. Jenna Seagraves.36:04.678 --> 36:10.380And the title is Keep It Simple Management of the Complex Patient in the Emergency Department.36:12.685 --> 36:14.846It's complex to work in the emergency department.36:15.026 --> 36:21.971And when you have patients that are especially complex, it's very easy to get overwhelmed, especially when you have a finite amount of time.36:22.011 --> 36:32.297So this session will really give you a framework for how to approach that patient from start to finish, whether they're medically complex, socially complex, whether the environment is complex.36:32.437 --> 36:38.481So just give you a place to start, a roadmap to follow and empower you to use your critical thinking skills to make it simple.36:40.142 --> 36:41.743Save a title again, keep it simple.36:42.381 --> 36:44.843Management of the complex patient in the emergency department.36:44.863 --> 36:48.725We're so close to being able to just have kiss and a lips emoji, like keep it simple.36:49.545 --> 36:50.226Keep it simple.36:50.366 --> 36:52.187I mean, I guess you can say stupid.36:52.267 --> 36:52.967We use the kiss.36:53.088 --> 36:54.008Keep it simple, stupid.36:54.128 --> 36:54.388I know.36:55.409 --> 36:56.049Keep it simple.36:56.309 --> 36:59.151I would have asked ChatGPT for something so I could use the kiss thing.37:00.412 --> 37:00.712Maybe.37:00.872 --> 37:01.553Keep it simple.37:01.653 --> 37:03.234Super awesome, PT.37:03.274 --> 37:03.674Yeah.37:04.034 --> 37:04.454Keep it simple.37:04.835 --> 37:05.615It could be hyphenated.37:05.675 --> 37:06.456All right.37:06.516 --> 37:07.236What's your second one?37:07.696 --> 37:07.896Okay.37:07.916 --> 37:10.198Because of 90s, it's called Spin Doctors.37:10.218 --> 37:10.418Okay.37:10.646 --> 37:12.947Yeah, that was my first concert ever, Spin Doctors.37:13.368 --> 37:13.888Oh, man.37:14.609 --> 37:16.710So we might have to have some of that music going, I think.37:17.410 --> 37:20.792Spin Doctors best practice dizziness care in the emergency department.37:21.093 --> 37:22.153Spin Doctors, I like it.37:22.854 --> 37:30.178So I'm presenting with Dr. Helena Esmond and Dr. Katie Johnstone, who you might know as the Lego PT.37:30.579 --> 37:30.859Oh, yeah.37:31.279 --> 37:31.899Yeah.37:31.959 --> 37:39.004So we've got vestibular first and the Lego PT and the EDPT coming together to make dizziness feel not so scary in the emergency department.37:40.506 --> 37:42.047Elise, are you looking forward to that?37:42.927 --> 37:49.691Yeah, I did get a little bit of a preview of the first session because I interviewed Rebecca and the Keep It Simple team.37:50.011 --> 37:51.712And it is gold, y'all.37:51.772 --> 37:53.453So cannot recommend.37:53.553 --> 37:55.354And I do love the spin doctor title.37:55.374 --> 38:00.696I like to think that both of these presentations are applicable to you wherever you work.38:00.997 --> 38:05.859Because if I can give you a framework to keep something simple in the emergency department, you can use that framework effectively.38:06.079 --> 38:29.584anywhere and then dizziness if we can make dizziness differential diagnosis of dizziness streamlined to the point where you could do it easily in the emergency department if you're in oncology or if you jimmy haven't seen a patient with vertigo in a long time and you come to this session podcasts and vertigo treatment two hours i like it also use your familiar skills in unfamiliar places38:31.849 --> 38:35.973learn new skills and then use them in an unfamiliar or, you know, places they don't quote don't belong.38:36.674 --> 38:40.678So I'm part of two sessions, but I'm not going to be able to be at both sessions.38:41.419 --> 38:45.383So one is because the Academy of American physical therapy is having their 50th anniversary.38:45.883 --> 38:47.265And I work with APTA orthopedics.38:47.545 --> 38:49.787I'm throwing a party with them.38:50.007 --> 38:51.429I mean, throwing a party, I get to go to a party.38:51.932 --> 38:56.776But an event that I've been part of since Denver was the first year is Technopalooza.38:57.056 --> 39:01.559And that's something that usually happens at night after sessions are done because it's like the anti-session session.39:01.579 --> 39:02.620So I did want to mention it.39:03.121 --> 39:05.042And then it's Friday night, 8 to 10.39:05.703 --> 39:10.486And essentially, it's Antique Roadshow for technology and PT.39:10.887 --> 39:12.408It's like everybody stands around.39:12.788 --> 39:13.348They walk over.39:13.368 --> 39:16.451They go, here's my diagnostic ultrasound that plugs into your iPhone.39:16.571 --> 39:17.291Ooh, everybody's, ooh, ooh.39:17.532 --> 39:18.332How does it work?39:18.372 --> 39:19.493How much does it cost?39:19.693 --> 39:20.234Let me touch it.39:20.874 --> 39:23.155So it's hands-on playground for tech.39:23.595 --> 39:26.336And the Academy of Leadership Innovation has been doing this for years.39:26.556 --> 39:29.578I got involved in Denver, which was a couple years ago.39:29.998 --> 39:30.958And they give us every year.39:31.058 --> 39:35.220But I wanted to give a nod because at the same time, the APTA orthopedics party is at the same time.39:35.980 --> 39:37.581And I cannot be in two places at the same time.39:37.601 --> 39:39.162So I did want to give a nod for both things.39:39.602 --> 39:41.603If you're in the Academy of Orthopedic PT, we're having a party.39:42.043 --> 39:44.084If you want to learn about technology, you got to pick one.39:44.901 --> 39:47.022The other one that I'm doing is a presentation.39:47.242 --> 39:49.503And I have presented several times at CSM.39:49.663 --> 39:51.283I have never submitted a presentation.39:51.883 --> 39:53.484I always get, hey, do you want to be on this?39:53.504 --> 39:54.244And I'm like, yeah, okay.39:55.104 --> 39:56.865So I am very much a Robin.39:56.985 --> 40:00.626As much as I like to take the lead on things, things like CSM still intimidate me.40:00.646 --> 40:01.286I'm like, I don't know.40:01.346 --> 40:02.727Do you ever want to learn this?40:03.347 --> 40:05.788So I ran into my co-presenter when we...40:06.508 --> 40:13.271We crossed paths as she was rotating off of the board of directors or the board of trustees for the Foundation for Physical Therapy Leadership.40:13.311 --> 40:17.813And I was rotating on the board of trustees at the Foundation for Physical Therapy Leadership.40:17.933 --> 40:20.674And again, I still have no idea why I'm on that board of trustees.40:20.714 --> 40:25.536If you look at people like Stanley Paris or like Marilyn Moffitt, Paul Rocker, former.40:25.616 --> 40:27.677I mean, I am the one of these people.40:28.337 --> 40:29.600Does not is not like the other.40:30.100 --> 40:34.267But Sheila Schindler Ivins and I were passing like ships in the night for the foundation.40:34.908 --> 40:42.141And she was like, you know, sort of instrumental in the in the Martin Marquette challenge that the foundation does every year.40:43.075 --> 40:47.796And she was like, hey, Jimmy, I really want you to help bring communications to the board.40:47.816 --> 40:48.796I think that's what you're here for.40:48.816 --> 40:55.438And I'm like, it must be because I haven't run a school or been the WCPT president.40:55.478 --> 40:58.719That's clearly why I'm here is to communicate.40:59.119 --> 41:01.760So Sheila then came to me and was like, hey, I've listened to what you've said.41:02.240 --> 41:02.760And you're right.41:03.800 --> 41:07.821If we really want people to understand research, publishing cannot be the only route.41:08.450 --> 41:14.075Publishing or a poster or presentations are traditionally the only three ways that science spreads.41:14.375 --> 41:15.176And I got news for you.41:15.596 --> 41:16.577Look at what we just talked about.41:16.978 --> 41:18.980All these sessions are happening at the same time.41:19.260 --> 41:20.661So time and space is a factor.41:21.342 --> 41:22.483What is all recorded, Jimmy?41:22.683 --> 41:23.403That's cool, too.41:23.824 --> 41:25.125But bandwidth is a factor.41:25.405 --> 41:26.386How do I choose?41:26.546 --> 41:33.573Because I only have so much bandwidth to spend time and pay attention with, which will be one of my slides.41:34.488 --> 41:35.389It is a transaction.41:35.809 --> 41:38.850I know your presentation is free, but it's not.41:39.331 --> 41:41.392So my goal is to highlight the problem.41:41.592 --> 41:42.772What's the problem, man?41:43.813 --> 41:47.695So the title of the presentation, it's on Thursday, three to five.41:47.755 --> 41:51.037So while Elise is very much the breakfast club there,41:51.497 --> 41:52.557I'm going to be happy hour.41:52.798 --> 41:56.339I do not see any regulations that say you can't bring your own drink.41:56.859 --> 41:57.459There's nothing there.41:57.660 --> 42:00.060I would rather ask for forgiveness than permission.42:00.361 --> 42:01.521So it is very much happy hour.42:01.881 --> 42:06.403And the title of the session is it's in the Academy of Research, which, again, is laughable.42:06.463 --> 42:08.424Why would I ever be in the Academy of Research?42:08.464 --> 42:09.144It's baffling.42:09.664 --> 42:11.905But I'm using my familiar tools in unfamiliar places.42:12.245 --> 42:14.746And the title is Science Isn't Finished Until It's Understood.42:15.146 --> 42:18.448Effective Strategies for Communicating Rehab Research to the Public.42:19.128 --> 42:21.089And Sheila is a researcher.42:21.129 --> 42:22.190So she's like my audience.42:22.210 --> 42:29.255So everything I've done in the presentation and putting it together, I run by her and I go, am I right in this is how it works?42:29.275 --> 42:31.356Because again, I've never really done research.42:31.736 --> 42:34.758So I'm like it, but I'm a lay person looking and going, isn't this the problem?42:34.798 --> 42:35.579Isn't this what you do?42:36.079 --> 42:40.662So I'm also going to spoiler alert because there are several things going on during CSM.42:40.682 --> 42:42.843Do you know what the other holidays are going on during CSM?42:43.084 --> 42:43.764One's an easy one.42:45.245 --> 42:46.646It's Valentine's Day.42:46.826 --> 42:48.147The Sunday before CSM.42:49.206 --> 42:50.127President's Day.42:50.808 --> 42:51.049Right.42:51.109 --> 42:52.931There's also a large football game.42:52.951 --> 42:56.276Yeah, Super Bowl.42:57.257 --> 43:00.301And a large party that usually happens in New Orleans.43:01.999 --> 43:09.225I am going to use elements of all those holidays in my presentation.43:09.605 --> 43:19.934Like I'm going to bring in my, my microphone set, my offensive Liban headphones that make me look like I'm an offensive coordinator on the sideline of a football football team.43:20.054 --> 43:20.274Right.43:20.734 --> 43:22.356And I'm going to do play by play.43:23.519 --> 43:25.640For what I think research looks like.43:25.720 --> 43:29.303You receive the kick, which means you got the green light or funding to do a research.43:29.663 --> 43:31.464And then you do a bunch of science things.43:31.544 --> 43:32.504Like, you do a thing.43:32.544 --> 43:33.905And she was going to help me with the science things.43:33.925 --> 43:35.186I'm not just going to yell out science things.43:36.287 --> 43:38.308But I'm going to say, like, you do science things.43:38.328 --> 43:42.430Like, you run the ball, you pass the ball because your goal is to get to the goal at the end.43:44.252 --> 43:46.513Spoiler alert, and I'll say it here because you can't say it.43:46.533 --> 43:47.173I don't want to hide it.43:48.054 --> 43:51.176I think researchers commonly think that getting published is the end zone.43:51.880 --> 43:54.221And I want to frame it, I think you're still on the 15-yard line.43:54.241 --> 43:54.901I think you're close.43:55.441 --> 44:01.684But your goal when you started was to achieve understanding, which is why it's called science isn't finished until it's understood.44:02.884 --> 44:05.225Science is done once I'm published.44:05.386 --> 44:08.027And then I just, what, go back to the 20-yard line and receive the next kick?44:08.587 --> 44:08.827No!44:09.727 --> 44:10.688You did a bunch of stuff.44:10.768 --> 44:12.608If it was any good, you want people to know about it.44:13.509 --> 44:17.230And for that, you need to get outside of posters, presentations, and papers.44:17.991 --> 44:18.651They're all P's.44:19.858 --> 44:20.479I'm going to do that.44:20.519 --> 44:22.540I'm going to make a Wizard of Oz reference.44:22.640 --> 44:24.142Posters and presentations and papers.44:24.202 --> 44:24.542Oh, my.44:24.682 --> 44:25.963Posters, presentations, and papers.44:26.023 --> 44:26.283Oh, my.44:26.503 --> 44:27.044There's a preview.44:27.344 --> 44:28.025I just came up with that.44:28.265 --> 44:29.646I'm going to use it.44:29.666 --> 44:31.267So that's my beef.44:31.628 --> 44:35.031Everybody says that 17 years from research to clinical practice.44:35.191 --> 44:36.372And everybody's like, we don't know why.44:36.432 --> 44:36.652I'm like...44:37.930 --> 44:40.012I very much know why, and I'm an idiot.44:40.032 --> 44:42.294It's because you publish and you think you're done.44:42.314 --> 44:47.858You ever see football players drop the ball in the one-yard line when they start celebrating too early?44:48.299 --> 44:51.601I'm like, you're doing the icky shuffle, 80s, 90s reference.44:51.882 --> 44:54.564You're doing the icky wood shuffle on the 15.44:55.425 --> 44:56.165That's a fumble.44:57.166 --> 44:57.887You think you're done.44:58.147 --> 44:59.068So that's my thing.44:59.088 --> 45:06.594So I'm very passionate about that because Sheila and I have the foundation connection, which the foundation raises money.45:07.591 --> 45:09.352then gives money away for research.45:09.532 --> 45:12.574And here I come in going, I'm not going to help you with research.45:12.674 --> 45:16.776Stuart Bender McLeod and Stanley Paris, Marilyn Moffat and Becky Craig, all these people.45:16.796 --> 45:18.217I'm like, I ain't going to help you with that.45:18.237 --> 45:21.799But I keep looking going, how are we trumpeting this?45:21.979 --> 45:23.100Where's the music video?45:23.480 --> 45:24.941Where's the rap video?45:25.041 --> 45:27.422Where's the TikTok?45:27.462 --> 45:30.124Make fun of these things all you want, but it's communication and brevity.45:30.564 --> 45:32.325So I don't know if you can tell, but I'm super pumped about this.45:33.174 --> 45:39.004And I really like in your title too, you didn't just finish with science isn't finished until it's communicated.45:40.248 --> 45:41.549Understood, right?45:41.609 --> 45:48.353And I think that's a really important thing we've especially been made aware of the past few years of like, it's not good enough to publish it.45:48.413 --> 45:50.154It's not good enough to just communicate it.45:50.474 --> 45:51.534It has to be understood.45:51.855 --> 45:57.958My mantra used to be, and I stole this from somebody, like the England's version of the Surgeon General.45:58.558 --> 46:00.860His quote was, science isn't finished until it's communicated.46:00.900 --> 46:02.501And I ran around, I put that on my email signature.46:02.521 --> 46:03.361I'm like, this is dope.46:03.701 --> 46:04.842And then I thought about it for a while.46:04.862 --> 46:06.523I was like, no, having...46:07.392 --> 46:09.094I don't want to have gone to the gym.46:09.194 --> 46:11.658I want to have done something that causes a change.46:11.858 --> 46:13.220That was the point when I set it out.46:13.820 --> 46:16.544So it's not having the job isn't to have communicated.46:16.564 --> 46:20.369The job is to have communicated clearly so that you reach understanding.46:20.449 --> 46:25.095I also want to make it easier for people, which is your job is not to get people to do something.46:25.916 --> 46:53.495or believe something and this i can also bleed into politics right kind of which is what i'm saying is like if we have a difference of opinion that's cool my only goal in this discussion right not a monologue or a presentation my discussion is do you understand what i'm saying you're like yes but i just don't agree with it that's cool i'm okay with that as long as i have articulated myself clearly and concisely sometimes with humor or analogies whatever the goal is understanding if you understand me and still disagree with me that's cool46:54.710 --> 46:56.611But not achieving understanding is on me.46:56.651 --> 46:57.512I want to own that.46:57.592 --> 46:59.473And that's what I want to show researchers.46:59.693 --> 47:03.415I also want to give them not a pass, but almost like, I get it.47:04.376 --> 47:06.357You're not incentivized to do anything after you're published.47:06.497 --> 47:07.377I think, right?47:07.798 --> 47:08.438There's no incentive.47:08.458 --> 47:10.079You don't get extra money.47:10.159 --> 47:18.504And I'm not saying researchers are doing it for money, but their living is earned off of going back to the 20-yard line and catching the ball again and scoring another touchdown.47:19.484 --> 47:20.705But you're not scoring touchdowns.47:21.678 --> 47:25.701And I'm not here to rage against the publishing world and say, well, this sucks and open access.47:25.761 --> 47:26.722I'm not going to change that.47:27.442 --> 47:34.868I don't know where the solution is or how the solution gets funded or how to... I know I'm going to talk to 100 people and two are going to do what I say.47:35.008 --> 47:35.488I know that.47:36.209 --> 47:36.949I'm cool with two.47:38.370 --> 47:40.892As long as the room understands me, it's not my job to get you to do it.47:41.701 --> 47:41.941Right.47:41.961 --> 47:43.223Which also goes back into patient care.47:43.243 --> 47:44.484I need you to understand me.47:45.044 --> 47:46.285You doing it or not doing it.47:46.325 --> 47:47.106It's like inception.47:47.447 --> 47:49.689I put the idea in your head, but it's got to be your idea.47:49.729 --> 47:51.170If it's not, you're never going to do it.47:51.871 --> 47:52.932So that's what my presentation is.47:54.613 --> 47:56.055I'm really excited about that.47:56.395 --> 47:58.277I'm excited about it because I feel like.47:59.423 --> 48:06.985If the pandemic really taught us anything, it's that misinformation is free, widely available, highly disseminated.48:07.966 --> 48:10.086If I'm getting my science off TikTok, that's free.48:10.346 --> 48:12.887Peer-reviewed research is behind a paywall.48:13.387 --> 48:17.549Even most physical therapists are like, well, I want to read this, but I can't because I don't want to pay for it.48:17.569 --> 48:19.469I don't want to get behind a paywall.48:19.869 --> 48:21.270So my question for you, Jimmy, is...48:22.210 --> 48:26.572Do we need to have the researcher team and then have another team of people that actually communicates that?48:26.692 --> 48:32.034Because is it reasonable to expect the researchers to be able to communicate that?48:32.174 --> 48:36.555And I address the limitations of this ask, which is you're limited in the three T's.48:36.615 --> 48:37.756I got a lot of P's and T's.48:38.256 --> 48:38.656Tools.48:39.864 --> 48:41.786Maybe you don't have an audience to talk to.48:41.966 --> 48:45.649Maybe you don't have a Canva account.48:46.450 --> 48:51.414So there are low or no costs, but if you want to reach a mass audience, you do need to put some stuff into it.48:51.434 --> 48:52.394So there's the three T's.48:52.435 --> 48:52.735Tools.48:54.420 --> 48:55.820Training, time.48:56.641 --> 49:01.162So if you don't know how to use the tool that you actually... Everybody can have a YouTube account for free.49:01.202 --> 49:03.302Great, there's a tool, but I don't have the training how to use it.49:03.502 --> 49:06.963Also, I don't have any time because my job is be published and go back and catch another kick.49:07.284 --> 49:16.946So this is what I did at Mount Sinai is I was embedded in a research lab and my job was make the TikToks and make the Instagram carousels for the research that our team was doing.49:17.586 --> 49:18.607And I did that for two years.49:20.167 --> 49:23.248So no, because our researchers, do you want them to get good at...49:24.048 --> 49:25.510offense and defense.49:25.550 --> 49:26.832It's like, is that a lot to ask?49:26.972 --> 49:27.593I think it is.49:27.713 --> 49:31.077Like you want them really, really good at research and have a team.49:31.558 --> 49:37.926So Sheila points out some schools have these teams and you're not going to get a hundred percent of their time, a hundred percent of the year.49:37.946 --> 49:42.692But if you're like, Hey, I'm publishing twice a year, meet with that person early and often.49:43.772 --> 49:55.338And then when the thing before it comes out, Tom Cruise is the most bankable, you know, actor in Hollywood or whatever, you know, but he still releases a movie trailer and he still walks the red carpet and he still does a jillion interviews.49:55.639 --> 49:55.859Why?49:55.879 --> 50:01.862He understands like he puts out great movies, but you got to tell people about them over and over.50:02.202 --> 50:04.463I even, I even in my presentation, I'm giving away a lot.50:04.844 --> 50:06.124I'll use exercise principles.50:06.585 --> 50:11.027There are communications, frequency, intensity, time, type, volume, progression.50:11.147 --> 50:12.508That's the fit VP, right?50:13.655 --> 50:15.457Those are all communication principles.50:15.858 --> 50:21.125So when you're not doing them, don't be upset by the results you're not getting from the work you're not doing.50:22.146 --> 50:24.729But I also come back and I go, maybe it might not be your job.50:24.749 --> 50:27.813So this might be a little commiserating.50:27.833 --> 50:29.155Like, I'm not going to bag on you.50:29.645 --> 50:32.827I'm going to show you the way and then show you like, I understand you are limited by this.50:32.967 --> 50:36.349You're being asked to play multiple positions that you are not given the tools, training and time for.50:36.909 --> 50:39.670You're not given the three P's, which is people, product, process.50:39.990 --> 50:43.032You're not instructed like, hey, communications is an entire degree in college.50:43.052 --> 50:43.472I got one.50:44.973 --> 50:47.014But where does that person come in on your team?50:47.614 --> 50:50.156I don't know really how research 100% works.50:50.196 --> 50:52.417Maybe someone listening now or we'll find out in the room.50:52.977 --> 51:19.021could you put that as part of your grant and not have to have a full-time communications person but say like isn't the point of getting this out like so i'm going to spend x number of the dollars from this grant to communicate it because you wanted it to not get published you want understanding published ain't the end zone so i'm i'm guessing we'll have like i'm gonna have football sound effects and i'm gonna juice it up man all i have is spin doctors51:21.451 --> 51:24.625I saw, I saw spin doctors, soul asylum.51:24.645 --> 51:25.650Do you remember soul asylum?51:26.616 --> 51:28.898They had a pretty innovative music video.51:28.918 --> 51:33.302So Solo Asylum had a song called Runaway Train, and it was about, it was about runaways.51:33.682 --> 51:35.944And they made like something like, and this is back in the 90s.51:35.964 --> 51:37.685This is really innovative.51:38.106 --> 51:49.455They made like 10 versions of the music video where in the chorus, they would flash images of runaway, kidnapped, exploited children who were missing.51:49.955 --> 51:55.060And then they would put a phone number of, if you find one of the, essentially they use their music video51:55.680 --> 52:21.356to find run out finding reconnect runaway children with their parents it's a very innovative idea in the 90s to like we're going to be on mtv every 20 minutes why don't we use this and the song is about this um you don't see that a lot the only other parallel i saw in recent years was imagine dragons did a song where the music video featured a kid with cystic fibrosis52:22.808 --> 52:28.691Essentially, it was like raising awareness and it showed the kid playing hockey and then going for treatment and then trying to ride his bike and going for treatment.52:29.092 --> 52:29.872And it was really not.52:29.932 --> 52:32.193So it was like cool, like communication, social justice.52:32.213 --> 52:33.194So there's some parallels, though.52:33.594 --> 52:36.496I also want to load up my presentation, which is a ton of examples.52:36.876 --> 52:37.296I do not.52:37.376 --> 52:38.417I am not a theory guy.52:38.497 --> 52:40.378I mean, I'm like, OK, basics outline.52:40.738 --> 52:42.899And then I want to show you ads of Nike.52:43.039 --> 52:44.260I want to show like, wow, look at this.52:44.300 --> 52:46.641They communicated an idea very clearly.52:47.061 --> 52:48.062How can you do that?52:48.162 --> 52:49.783How can you steal this to do that?52:50.632 --> 52:52.474Because I want people to walk out feeling.52:52.614 --> 52:53.135It's always good.52:53.175 --> 52:54.236Like vibes, right?52:54.356 --> 53:00.122I want the vibe to this to be like, oh, I can do this and I have permission.53:00.162 --> 53:06.208So my fourth P usually people, product, process, and permission or tools, training, time, and turf.53:06.968 --> 53:10.092It's like, yes, this actually, you are the only person that's going to do this.53:11.072 --> 53:12.254No one's going to do it better than you.53:12.434 --> 53:13.355No one's going to do it with more53:14.381 --> 53:33.942energy and more accuracy than you you're mad because the communications person at your university misquoted you or didn't get but you weren't involved in the process sorry man that's a fumble on you so anyway i feel like i hogged a lot of the time at the end there but i got real pumped i'm excited for it yeah53:34.833 --> 53:37.195And I'm actually like halfway done putting it together.53:37.375 --> 53:41.559I usually put things together two weeks before and then I run through it three or four times.53:41.779 --> 53:43.260I'm already practicing several parts.53:43.701 --> 53:44.682I'm very excited for this.53:44.702 --> 53:45.162Very nice.53:45.542 --> 53:46.403This might be important.53:47.004 --> 53:47.784All right, party stop.53:47.864 --> 53:49.085What are we going to say?53:49.105 --> 53:49.666You don't like that?53:49.766 --> 53:50.306All right, that's cool.53:51.874 --> 53:52.354Parting shots.53:52.374 --> 53:53.715How do you want to wrap up today's episode?53:53.755 --> 53:54.616This is a different format.53:54.636 --> 53:55.757This is the second time we've done it.53:55.777 --> 54:00.440I don't even know if we have a name for it, but the brunch bunch felt really good.54:01.921 --> 54:03.322How do you want to wrap up today's episode?54:03.342 --> 54:04.303Let's do it this way.54:04.363 --> 54:10.268Parting shot will be what are you looking forward to at CSM outside of just the programming that we all just mentioned as well?54:12.048 --> 54:12.588Oh, my gosh.54:12.848 --> 54:18.270I'm really excited to see people from all across the country that I've connected with virtually that I haven't met in person.54:18.611 --> 54:22.832I'm excited to see friends that I have had for years.54:22.892 --> 54:24.053I'm really looking forward to that.54:24.573 --> 54:28.835I'm excited to like treating it in the brunch theme like a wine flight.54:29.055 --> 54:31.716I'm going to try a lot of new things and experience a lot of new things.54:32.076 --> 54:36.357I'm committed to going to an event I've never been to before, even if I don't know anybody.54:37.098 --> 54:37.398Love it.54:37.578 --> 54:40.079Elise, what are we looking forward to?54:43.098 --> 54:59.433not to copy but i so i didn't go to csm last year and i feel like i missed a lot like the fomo was very strong for me and so i'm really looking forward to actually getting to go in person and connect with a bunch of people that like it's called the oncology mafia for a reason because55:00.354 --> 55:06.642So many of those people are so cool and are like always cheerleading in the background for everything that I've ever done.55:06.722 --> 55:08.564And so it's always nice to get to connect with them.55:08.584 --> 55:10.926I am going to do a plug here.55:11.848 --> 55:17.174Dan Stevenson, who you may know as the cancer PT, the Fred Rogers of55:17.754 --> 55:26.562PT, PT Dan is receiving a humanitarian award from the oncology section that is supremely well-deserved.55:26.622 --> 55:31.306And so I do want to make sure, cause he was probably never going to tell that I'm going to shout it from the rooftops.55:31.707 --> 55:32.307Dan got it.55:32.647 --> 55:34.029Dan is totally deserving of it.55:34.129 --> 55:39.834And I can't think of a better person who exemplifies what it means to be a PT humanitarian than PT Dan.55:40.274 --> 55:45.900I have to, I will now pledge to use video examples from PT Dan because he utilizes video.55:46.020 --> 55:47.001We're talking about the same guy, right?55:47.141 --> 55:47.261Yeah.55:47.402 --> 55:47.602Yeah.55:47.822 --> 55:48.062Yeah.55:48.803 --> 55:52.006Utilizes videos in such a great way and he's been doing it for a while now.55:52.187 --> 55:53.868He was sort of like doing it before it was cool.55:53.928 --> 55:58.333He was like literally teaching himself like how to make goofy fun videos to get his audience55:59.025 --> 56:02.110pediatric patients like engage because he was like, they watch goofy videos.56:02.190 --> 56:03.953So I got to make goofy fun videos.56:04.134 --> 56:08.120Let's talk to the patient in ways that they are already communicating.56:08.180 --> 56:10.324So I will use examples from PT dance.56:13.290 --> 56:16.272Um, shoot, I had, I had one and now I forgot.56:16.432 --> 56:19.975Oh, I think I, I mean, we didn't even talk about all the things that happened.56:20.295 --> 56:23.457We could do another episode on all the things that happened after the sessions, right?56:24.137 --> 56:31.582The, the diversity gala, the PT pack event, all the sections and academies and alumni events have parties.56:32.122 --> 56:33.123You can invent your own.56:33.603 --> 56:35.184So it's kind of choose your own adventure.56:35.445 --> 56:38.687Last year we did PT, uh, a party with a purpose.56:39.247 --> 56:40.288I forgot the name of my own party.56:40.688 --> 56:41.448Party with a purpose.56:41.768 --> 56:45.090I didn't do it again this year because family stuff happened.56:45.130 --> 56:47.251And I was like, I'm not going to be able to plan this correctly.56:47.631 --> 56:48.092Maybe I'll do it.56:48.132 --> 56:49.072Where's CSM next year?56:49.532 --> 56:50.773Not to already skip ahead.56:51.313 --> 56:51.953Houston.56:52.514 --> 56:52.694Yeah.56:52.714 --> 56:53.494So warmer.56:53.514 --> 56:57.997I mean, maybe we can make it, you know, San Diego, San Antonio had snow.56:58.017 --> 57:01.959Maybe we'll make a, yeah, maybe Boston will be 82 and balmy in February.57:01.979 --> 57:03.759Probably not.57:04.220 --> 57:06.101But looking forward to connecting with people.57:06.261 --> 57:08.822I mean, I got people I hang out with every year and I'm just pumped.57:10.711 --> 57:11.212That's all I got.57:11.332 --> 57:12.154Do you guys have anything else?57:13.798 --> 57:14.539Play the outro music.57:14.559 --> 57:14.740All right.57:14.760 --> 57:17.125They said the best conversations happen at happy hour.57:17.145 --> 57:18.808Thanks for coming to ours.57:19.189 --> 57:19.870We'll see you at CSM.