How BlazePod is Revolutionizing Physical Therapy

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And you, you prefer MC, right?

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That's how the business world knows me.

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Yeah.

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Then you go with that.

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The funny part, the hardest part for me,

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welcome to the show, by the way,

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we've already started.

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We start before, you know, we've started.

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The funniest part was me for

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me was everybody, you know, growing up,

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everybody just called me Jimmy.

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It's my name.

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Then I went into radio.

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And when you're in radio,

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you either quickly pick

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your own air name or if you wait too long,

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they give you one and you

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cannot wash it off.

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It's like a football nickname, right?

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So I quickly went with my last name,

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which is McKay.

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So I was just McKay.

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So the funny part is I knew

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exactly where I knew the

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person from based on what they called me.

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But then you leave radio and

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you can't walk around like

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calling yourself by your radio name,

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right?

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You can't just, you know.

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So it's been like a

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transition for me because

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for close to fifteen years,

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I was just McKay.

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And now I'm like, I'm Jimmy again.

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It's not as exciting.

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All right, cool.

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But go with it.

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But I once had a girl tell me,

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I was dating this girl, and she was like,

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you'll never be taken

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seriously if you call yourself Jimmy.

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And I was like, all right,

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but a James doesn't fit with me.

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So if you have MC, go with MC, man.

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People have been calling me that,

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Michael Cummings, my initials.

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And I just did like little E, big M, big C,

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little E, little E.

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Master of Ceremonium is what I do.

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So it's good.

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So the audience just heard the intro.

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They sort of have your sixty

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thousand foot view for your background.

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Right.

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But you paired up with something I saw.

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I don't know how long ago I

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saw Blaze Pods for the first time.

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you know, online,

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just a crazy quick clip video.

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And it, it,

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I don't think it needed a lot

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of explanation.

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I think the minute you saw

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someone see it and using it, you're like,

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Oh, the biggest parallel.

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And I'd love your take on this.

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The biggest parallel was for me,

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I was like, Oh, it's like a QR code.

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It brought like in my mind,

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I think I thought QR codes

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could have been like the

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greatest thing in the world.

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They haven't taken off, but it was like,

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Oh,

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it's a real world version of a click

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on the internet.

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Right.

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To me, it was like, oh,

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I want them to do all these things like,

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hey, touch this post-it note or, you know,

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pick up this thing.

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But then you watch it and it

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instantly changes that

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patient or that client's

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brain where you don't

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really need to tell them

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anything because the thing

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is doing the thing with light or what.

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Like, it was just very intuitive.

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So the minute you saw people using it,

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you were like, oh, wow.

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But then there's the pause

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because I think there's a

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thousand ways that we

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haven't even thought of

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right now in twenty twenty

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four that people will be

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using it in a couple of years.

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So let's start with this.

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If someone has been living

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under a rock and doesn't

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know what the hell blaze prods are,

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how do you describe what they are,

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how they work?

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Yeah, to me,

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they're just they're they're react.

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It's a reactive training system.

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And when you think of reaction training,

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reaction time,

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there's that perceptual component.

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There's the processing speed component.

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And then there's the what do

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I do and how quickly can I do that?

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So it's not just, you know,

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it's not just reacting as

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quickly as possible,

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but it's doing the right

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thing as quickly as possible.

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And it's competitive.

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And like you said, I built a platform,

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a full blown platform with

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colors and numbers.

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And I went out and traveled

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the world teaching cognitive agility.

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And it was just me.

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And I'm like, OK,

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when I hold up the red flag,

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you go right.

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And when I hold up the green flag,

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you go left.

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And if I yell number one,

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that's a volley or, you know,

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working with.

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whatever.

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And when I found BlazeBot,

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I found it kind of the same way you did.

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I was looking at it, I was like, dude,

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this thing is really cool.

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And then I was like, oh my gosh,

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I can make this digital.

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I can pull an app out,

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touch a button and do all

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of the things that like,

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I would roll up with like

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four suitcases filled with

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like colors and lights and gear.

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And it was all analog, nothing electronic.

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And so this changed my world

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when I found this

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Because now you can have preset games.

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Like, all right,

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so we'll go back to my career in radio.

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We'd get sent out to a bar

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event because I worked at a rock station.

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We'd get sent out to a bar event.

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And they'd always want us to, hey,

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have some fun, play some games, right?

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And I remember in the

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beginning of my radio career, I'd be like,

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oh, man, what am I going to do?

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So I'd try to like...

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create these like elaborate

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fun games and then I

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realized you know the best

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games to play with uh at

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with adults at a bar to get

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them interactive it's kids

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games man it's hot potato

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it's uh musical chairs

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because and here's why you

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don't really have to

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explain the rules they're

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embedded and they're simple

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and from what I've seen

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with blaze pods you

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probably don't need to do a

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lot of explaining you might

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need to give a prompt but

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then from there on there's

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they're pretty intuitive

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Like when you get an Apple phone,

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there's a lot you can do with it.

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You sort of figure it out by using it.

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You don't have to give them a manual.

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They're going to be able to figure it out.

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Well, we're good enough now, Jimmy,

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where you can say, yo,

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I got an event at a bar.

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And we call it being a pothead.

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You're a pothead.

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We call them pot games.

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But I could literally send

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to your phone a link of a

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drill I just created.

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Oh, like a template.

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Yeah.

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I can create yeah it's a

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template have a video it'll

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have how to set it up and

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what to do I can do that in

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ten seconds well maybe

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thirty seconds to record

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the video uh so we're doing

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that all the time people

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are asking us for different

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things we're shooting off

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these drills to individuals

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and it's so easy man like

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and that's why like pts

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will send them to their

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clients uh personal

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trainers are sending them

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to their patients and

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clients like people are

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just sending these their

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these exercises out for

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them to do at home or

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The head of a clinic might be sending out,

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hey,

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this is week one with all of our

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neuro patients or all of

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our vestibular patients.

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That's vestibular day one.

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And then they can log in and

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they can find those drills

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and knock them out.

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So, you know,

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you talked about a couple audiences like.

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PTs or trainers sending it

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to their clients or patients.

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But then what PTs love too,

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and here's my proof of why they love it.

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If you look at Instagram,

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some of the best performing

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videos and reels and short

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form content is like

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treatment techniques.

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Like, oh,

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give me a different way to do this.

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Oh, give me this, this.

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So I mean, there must be a ton of like,

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PT to PT or trainer to

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trainer or trainer to PT going, hey,

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I got this new drill or I

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designed this new drill.

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And so you're telling me the

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platform that you have with that.

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If I had a cool idea in upstate New York,

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I could create the video,

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create the template and

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then make it shareable or

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send it to my buddy in Florida.

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And he could be playing the

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same game or doing the same

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exercise if we had the same technology.

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A hundred percent.

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In fact, next week we're actually creating,

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I hate to use the term,

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but Instagram for blaze pod,

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where you can have all of

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Jimmy's exercises.

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So people will be like, Oh,

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I love what he's doing.

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They can follow you and they

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can look at everything you're doing.

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So Kevin Wilk is one of our

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early adopters.

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He did a full blown like ACL

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program with it.

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Some of his fellows are also

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using it quite regularly.

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And so he'll have a page up

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there with all of the

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drills that he's doing regularly and

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so pts around the world can

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go on and say oh this is

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the guy I follow because I

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love what he's putting out

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and so yeah we have lots of

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k-star kelly's threat I

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guess he goes by kel now uh

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same type of thing like

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Yeah,

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I always knew him as K-Star because

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he was a competitor of mine

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in a different life on different product.

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But super smart dude.

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I followed everything he did

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on social media, Instagram.

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And now he's coaching some

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water polo for his kids.

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And so we sent him some pods.

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And so I want to follow him

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as a strength conditioning coach.

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How does he use that?

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In the world of water polo.

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So now it'll be live on the

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website next week or maybe

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a week from then.

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And then it'll be on the app, I think,

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early twenty twenty five.

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Approximately how many stick

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figure drawings are there

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in the BlazePod app?

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I'm guessing the answer is zero.

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I mean,

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I went to PT school nine years ago

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and we were handing out like,

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nineteen seventies cartoons.

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And that was like, well,

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this is the best we have.

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And I want to be like,

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we put someone on the moon.

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This is the best we have.

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And it was stick figures.

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Bro, my favorite is the PRE, right?

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The perceived rate of

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exertion chart that we still use.

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Like, how do you feel?

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Like mad face to cry face to happy face.

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Like we're so archaic in

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some of the things that we

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still continue to use.

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It's crazy.

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I'm so grateful to have found BlazePod,

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who's initially a tech company.

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And that's where all of this

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stuff is really becoming real.

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Everything,

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every modality I did was all analog.

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And to team up with a tech

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company and be able to put

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some of the stuff I know

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for education with that, dude,

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that's been the godsend.

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Yeah, the tech is the how, but-

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You're not really buying the tech,

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but you never buy the drill.

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You buy the hole that you

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want to produce in the wall.

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Right.

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So you buy the blaze pods,

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you buy technology and you're like, oh,

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this allows me to simply, quickly,

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clearly get these things,

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get people to do these

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things or people to

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understand these things.

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So do you see a lot of people like I mean,

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obviously,

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this this is a this is a layup.

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for a clinic.

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So if you're like, hey,

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what are we going to buy this year?

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What are we going to upgrade?

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I feel like a set or

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multiple sets of blaze pods

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at a PT clinic is a layup.

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Are there people...

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that now go home and say,

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I'm prescribing you as your PT,

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you should continue to use

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these and the way to be

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able to do these exercises

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and make them fun because

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we know if they're not fun,

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I'm not gonna do them.

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Do you see PTs like

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essentially becoming like official,

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unofficial reps for BlazePod?

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Like you need these, here's the website,

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go buy these, take these home.

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Totally.

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It's funny you say that.

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Dr. Karen Purvis did a bunch of studies.

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She's passed away.

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But she did some studies

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that said to create neural

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stimulation or new neural

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pathways in your brain,

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or I call them like new

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activities in your brain,

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it takes four hundred repetitions.

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Unless those things are perceived as play,

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where in which they only

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take twenty five.

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And so four hundred reps to

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twenty five reps.

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That's why a lot of these

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PTs now they become

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resellers and they we have

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just a very basic like four pod pack.

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They say, hey, get these,

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take them home and I will I

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can send you to work out

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what I want you to do at home that day.

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so they save them in this

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little collections file and

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it's real easy they can go

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on them and say all right

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these are the the six

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things that I'm gonna do

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this week as prescribed by

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my pt um you know and

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that's just to help people

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get better faster so when

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they're in the clinic

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they're they people ask

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them all the time I mean it

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is such an engaging tool

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and it's brightened the the

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color of you know physical

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therapy clinics I

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volunteered early on in

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numerous clinics which

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And I'm old.

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It was one of the reasons I

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didn't want to become a

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physical therapist.

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I felt my personality was a

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little bit too dynamic.

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And what I realize now is I

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think I volunteered in the

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wrong clinics because

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there's some amazing clinics.

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But back in my day,

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before the doctorate

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program was even available,

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we'd go in and it was just

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I hate to say it was kind of boring.

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It was so clinical.

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Couple rubber bands, man.

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Health is environment.

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Health is culture.

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Health is the people you

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surround yourself with.

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And I felt like I was

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walking into a place that

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was like a little sickly all the time.

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And I was like, oh, like,

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am I going to really do this?

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And, you know,

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so you said you have one

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third of a master's degree.

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I have one third.

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Yeah.

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One third of a PT school degree.

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So, all right, we've talked about,

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and again,

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I think a layup is sports clinics,

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ortho clinics, active clinics, you know,

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trainers, coaches, those are layups.

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People have done interviews

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on those before.

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I try to do something a

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little bit different, deeper, which is,

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oh, I haven't thought about that.

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So let's go a different direction.

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neuro rehab.

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You talked about, you,

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you opened the door a

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second ago about neuro rehab, right?

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Help me understand how blaze

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pod has really made, you know,

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an impact in neuro

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rehabilitation people with that.

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You maybe wouldn't think of

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like technology like this

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with people who have things

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like Parkinson's disease, Alzheimer's.

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I don't think that's as clear.

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It wasn't for me.

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It was very easy.

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One, a soccer team, an ACL rehab,

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like you mentioned, but this thing,

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these things could, they're already, uh,

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making inroads on people

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with diseases like that,

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neurodegenerative diseases like that.

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So there's a group out there

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called the Neuro Collaborative.

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And they had this called

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Dendrite Expansion Day.

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And they had all their Sparkies out there.

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There was about, I think,

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forty physical therapists,

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occupational therapists

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that were out there.

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It was really cool because

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they had this woman named

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JJ come in and kind of do

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the educational session.

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There was three clients.

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One had a spinal cord issue

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and obviously some some brain issue.

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And then I'll speak to the

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woman that had Parkinson's.

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So this woman had

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Parkinson's in a wheelchair.

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They wanted to cue her left

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glute didn't work and all

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this other stuff.

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So they set up the step and the apparatus.

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And her goal was to kick

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this punching bag just to

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lift the leg up.

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They could not get her to do it.

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So Claire,

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who runs Rogue PT and Wellness

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in Orange County, California,

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she put the BlazePod around the bag.

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That woman in that wheelchair,

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you could see her eyes

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hyper-focus on this light

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And bro, within thirty seconds,

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she had been trying for ten minutes.

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They could not cue her to do it.

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She stood off this step,

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kicked it and then kicked

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it again and then kicked it again.

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And then when they sat down

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and JJ was describing to everybody,

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she was pushed away and

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she's reaching still with her foot.

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because she wants to

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continue to hit this light.

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Then they were doing some

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gait analysis with her.

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So, you know,

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they have her strapped in and

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they have the belt around

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her so she doesn't fall.

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She's walking.

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And she was like,

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thirty seven seconds to

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walk from one thing to another.

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Well,

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they put some blaze pods at the end

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of the room for her to go and get.

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She went from thirty seven

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seconds down to nineteen

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seconds down to sixteen

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seconds because it gave her this target.

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You talked about it.

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They're fun.

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They're addicting.

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They're like, you know,

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there's something there.

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I don't exactly know what it is.

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I don't know if it's the cat

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chasing the laser or what

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these lights do.

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But gamifying a situation takes any human,

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no matter what capacity,

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what degenerative disease,

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what ailment they have,

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and turn them into that person.

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Like a kid, if I go get mail,

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I'm going to go walk to the mailbox,

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say hi to the neighbors.

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If I ask my kid to go get the mail,

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they're sprinting to the mailbox.

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They run everywhere.

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it forces this playful

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behavior out of people in a

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way that's functional in a

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way that is targeted and works.

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As much as we talk about

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like the downfall of

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society with like the social apps, right?

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Hang on.

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I just got to check my LinkedIn.

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Ooh, what's that?

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The top right-hand corner MC.

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Like I got notifications and

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it's red and it's bright.

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And there's a number four, ah,

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four opportunity.

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I wonder what this is.

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We're big, dumb animals in a good way.

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We're all big, dumb animals, right?

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And we know like sort of how

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clickbait works or how the

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little red circle on

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Facebook works when I log in and I see,

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oh, how many opportunities do I have?

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Let me open this.

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We know these things.

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And then as you mentioned,

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we clinicalize something.

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We've all walked into that

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PT clinic or maybe you work there,

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maybe you still work there.

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We were like, man,

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it's like beige wallpaper,

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a couple of rubber bands,

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nothing heavier than a gallon of milk.

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And we're shocked when

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people don't get excited

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and move while they're there.

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You've created an

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environment that tells you

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to sit down and shut up.

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And we're confused when

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people don't stand up and run around.

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Our brains are wired for

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play if we allow it.

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It just feels like you're the bait, man.

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I mean,

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you're the cheese in the fun mousetrap,

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which is like, I'll chase that.

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I'll punch that.

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I'll rotate faster to do that.

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I'm not sure what ages it is.

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Is it thirteen, fifteen, eighteen,

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twenty five?

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When play isn't the first thing we think,

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right?

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We want now we want objectives.

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I think it's at the age to

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where you start to realize, like,

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do I look dumb doing this?

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And some of the fittest

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people on the planet,

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they don't give two Fs

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about how they look.

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They're running everywhere.

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They're doing everything.

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And not in a prankster bad way,

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but in that kid way.

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They've never lost it.

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There's a big tree.

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I'm going to go climb it.

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There's a fence.

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I'm going to jump over it.

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There's four stairs.

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Yeah.

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how many times in a four

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stair above the age of

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twelve did you just not

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jump down the whole thing

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right right and now you're

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walking down all four

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stairs no like I say phooey

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to that I'm gonna be

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jumping upstairs jumping

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down stairs pretending to

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rail slide stuff like my whole life

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And I think that's the

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ability that one of the

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things that we call playful

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learning that BlazePod really does.

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And that's what really

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colors the clinic in a way

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that's been so fascinating.

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I've been to some of these

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clinics that have BlazePod on the walls.

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Bro, I'm stimulated when I walk in.

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I'm like, this is awesome.

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Children's Health does a

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great job at that.

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There's a couple of clinics

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that I've been into.

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And I'm like,

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I want to rehab in here even

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though I'm not hurt.

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I mean, when Atari came out, you know,

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if you were to lay money on, like,

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which games were going to be successful,

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I bet you people were like, oh,

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it's the really complicated ones.

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And then you look at the

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ones that are simple, like Pac-Man.

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Well,

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you don't have to explain it that much,

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right?

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It's simple to do,

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but it's still got that element of, like,

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what changes every level on Pac-Man?

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Well, the speed of the bad guys,

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the layout.

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So now we've got to go a different maze.

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You look at, like, Mario Brothers.

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It's always, you know, Super Mario.

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It's always left to right.

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Coins, the noise.

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I haven't used Blaze Pod.

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They make noises.

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They do not.

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No.

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I mean, yeah, they don't.

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You get this one, two, three.

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But like, yeah, change color.

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They're interactive.

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They're haptic.

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Like I'm touching something.

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When you give somebody a target.

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That's real and not imaginary.

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They reach it or they sure

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as hell try to reach it.

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Well,

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and then the other great thing is

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they give you a time.

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They give you a score.

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And so you're like,

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not only do you compete against yourself,

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like, okay,

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this week you were this and

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this week you're this.

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And we can get into a whole

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bunch of stuff like how

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that can be a barometer for

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health and whether to

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unload the workout or

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decrease the intensity of

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it or whatever it is based

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on your baseline score.

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But the coolest thing with

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that is you're going

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against other people.

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There's a leaderboard on

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almost every drill.

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So you do one.

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I do one.

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We post the leaderboard up.

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A lot of clinics have the

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leaderboard right up there.

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And they're like, who's the fastest today?

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That score is that

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motivational piece that you

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want to come back and beat.

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We have these pods that we

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call the reactive intelligence wall, RIW.

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There's six pods set up.

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That's the one we do at all

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the APTA shows.

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So those are always up.

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Therapists will come by.

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Fifty,

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sixty times and do the wall because

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they to win a kid or just to compete.

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And Odell Beckham Jr., the NFL superstar,

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he has the highest score on the planet.

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It's sixty seven.

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And so I have trainers.

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I have like the people, coaches, trainers,

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physios that call me.

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They're like, what's the high score?

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Because I think I have

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someone who's going to who

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thinks he can beat it.

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So they're going after this high score.

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And of course,

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you're trying to crush

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everybody you're there with

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and what such and such a score.

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That's the thing that makes

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it just so freaking fun and addicting.

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We're social beings.

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Why are we shocked that when

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you make something social

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and fun and competitive,

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that people are more social,

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more fun and competitive and do it more?

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This should not shock us.

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It's a little confusing how

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it took us this long to

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actually understand this,

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but maybe the technology,

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the idea was there,

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but the technology wasn't.

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Cause I've seen a lot of

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really creative PTs, you know,

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long before Bluetooth and phones,

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like get very creative.

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I feel like the example I

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gave to a friend the other day,

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When I was explaining who I was talking to,

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meaning you, they're like, oh, I guess,

00:19:33.267 --> 00:19:33.487
yeah,

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it took a while for that technology

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to sort of come around.

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People probably could picture it.

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I go, yeah,

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there was an incredible Hulk

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movie in the eighties where

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they painted Lou Ferrigno with paint.

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And then he ran around.

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It was like, yeah,

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that was the most we could do then.

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And then fast forward to

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whatever year the first Hulk,

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the next Hulk movie came out.

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It was so good.

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You weren't seeing a guy who

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was painted green.

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You were really seeing.

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There was no more suspended disbelief,

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right?

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And I feel like that's what BlazePod did.

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It was like,

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don't envision that post-it

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note as a button.

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It's like, that's a button.

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When I push it, something happens,

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and then something else happens.

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And now I'm focused on the button.

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There's no pretend.

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This is a real thing.

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So let's go future.

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What role do you see

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BlazePod playing in

00:20:18.346 --> 00:20:19.387
physical therapy clinics in

00:20:19.407 --> 00:20:20.548
the next five years?

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You've explained a bunch of

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ways it's already doing this.

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Like, you know,

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there's even some ideas I didn't know.

00:20:27.031 --> 00:20:28.752
And what's what do you

00:20:28.873 --> 00:20:29.712
what's what's the thing?

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Don't say anything here that

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I have to delete or bleep out.

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But what what could be next

00:20:35.115 --> 00:20:36.537
with this type of technology?

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So I think what makes

00:20:37.693 --> 00:20:40.095
BlazePod so impactful,

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not only is the app super user-friendly,

00:20:42.736 --> 00:20:44.616
easy to deploy, Bluetooth connection,

00:20:44.757 --> 00:20:46.877
super easy, they're durable,

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they're light, they're portable,

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they're affordable, they're waterproof.

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All of the cool components,

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BlazePod is now gonna get

00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:54.560
into other products.

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So I can't reveal a lot of it,

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but potentially things that

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have to do with hand-eye coordination.

00:21:01.563 --> 00:21:02.663
Maybe things that have to do

00:21:02.703 --> 00:21:04.224
with like rebounding back

00:21:04.244 --> 00:21:05.625
and forth on certain things.

00:21:06.026 --> 00:21:07.307
So they're taking that that

00:21:07.467 --> 00:21:08.827
awesome tech and and the

00:21:08.887 --> 00:21:10.148
tech has been out there.

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But just like the computer

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when it first came out,

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that was hundreds of

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thousands of dollars and gigantic.

00:21:15.933 --> 00:21:17.474
There was reactive lights

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before I used them at the

00:21:18.695 --> 00:21:20.356
at the lab in college.

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They were just thirty thousand dollars.

00:21:23.638 --> 00:21:25.700
and and labs could have them

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but they weren't that

00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:27.760
useful I couldn't deploy

00:21:27.780 --> 00:21:29.682
them at like at my whim and

00:21:29.721 --> 00:21:31.521
so I think that's the cool

00:21:31.541 --> 00:21:32.522
thing with blazebot is they

00:21:32.563 --> 00:21:33.843
know how to modularize

00:21:33.883 --> 00:21:35.003
things they know how to

00:21:35.064 --> 00:21:36.523
make things that can do a

00:21:36.625 --> 00:21:38.664
lot but still be at an

00:21:38.884 --> 00:21:40.665
affordable cost and at a

00:21:40.806 --> 00:21:41.987
level where you don't have

00:21:42.027 --> 00:21:43.267
to be a rocket scientist to

00:21:43.307 --> 00:21:44.647
figure out that's the

00:21:44.667 --> 00:21:45.528
biggest thing is like

00:21:45.587 --> 00:21:46.929
nobody wants to buy tech

00:21:46.969 --> 00:21:48.189
and not know how to like

00:21:48.328 --> 00:21:49.529
pick it up and just use it

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And those are the biggest

00:21:51.050 --> 00:21:51.892
troubleshooting things.

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People are like, oh,

00:21:52.893 --> 00:21:53.453
I don't know if I know how

00:21:53.473 --> 00:21:54.015
to use voice pod.

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I go, have you opened the box?

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And a lot of times they're like, not yet.

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And I'm like, wait,

00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:00.942
your barrier of entry is

00:22:00.981 --> 00:22:01.803
like you're afraid that

00:22:01.823 --> 00:22:03.444
there's tech in that box.

00:22:04.226 --> 00:22:06.288
And once you open it up, you're like, oh,

00:22:06.327 --> 00:22:06.808
my gosh,

00:22:06.848 --> 00:22:09.371
like this was so easy to just set up.

00:22:10.251 --> 00:22:12.972
I think the analytics is

00:22:13.012 --> 00:22:14.634
going to improve where

00:22:14.653 --> 00:22:15.294
you're going to be able to

00:22:15.334 --> 00:22:16.335
tell a lot more things.

00:22:16.414 --> 00:22:17.335
If you're an injured

00:22:17.375 --> 00:22:20.017
individual between the age

00:22:20.037 --> 00:22:21.217
of seventy and eighty,

00:22:21.477 --> 00:22:22.357
we're going to have a lot

00:22:22.458 --> 00:22:24.278
better data that says

00:22:24.679 --> 00:22:25.699
you're in whatever

00:22:25.739 --> 00:22:27.160
percentile of people that

00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.441
are dealing with ACLs in this drill.

00:22:29.961 --> 00:22:31.261
the drills are going to get better.

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There'll be more analytics

00:22:33.522 --> 00:22:36.585
and data that you can refer to.

00:22:36.964 --> 00:22:37.865
I think now that we're

00:22:37.944 --> 00:22:38.945
opening up this training

00:22:38.965 --> 00:22:41.106
hub to all these organic users,

00:22:42.607 --> 00:22:43.807
we'll filter out some of

00:22:43.827 --> 00:22:44.608
the ones and we'll just

00:22:44.648 --> 00:22:46.950
have our professionals initially putting

00:22:47.269 --> 00:22:48.171
putting information out

00:22:48.211 --> 00:22:50.132
there that's the sky's the

00:22:50.173 --> 00:22:51.733
limit there because there's

00:22:51.753 --> 00:22:52.795
this this girl that was

00:22:52.855 --> 00:22:54.375
working on some some brain

00:22:54.435 --> 00:22:56.257
stuff and she set the pods

00:22:56.317 --> 00:22:58.098
up in a way where she had

00:22:58.138 --> 00:22:59.380
four pods and they turned a

00:22:59.420 --> 00:23:00.500
different color each one of

00:23:00.520 --> 00:23:01.241
them turned a different

00:23:01.261 --> 00:23:03.502
color she had cones and she

00:23:03.522 --> 00:23:05.525
was organizing the cones to

00:23:05.565 --> 00:23:06.965
match the colors of the

00:23:07.006 --> 00:23:08.627
pods then she hit a pod and

00:23:08.667 --> 00:23:09.627
they would re they would

00:23:09.667 --> 00:23:11.329
recolor and then she'd move

00:23:11.369 --> 00:23:13.151
the cones to match that so

00:23:13.171 --> 00:23:14.932
she was effectively doing puzzles

00:23:15.452 --> 00:23:17.615
Now our app doesn't really

00:23:17.675 --> 00:23:19.038
have a way to do that,

00:23:19.057 --> 00:23:20.159
but she found a hack.

00:23:20.219 --> 00:23:21.240
And that hack is like,

00:23:21.641 --> 00:23:22.241
even though I'm one.

00:23:23.787 --> 00:23:25.468
If I put four players all

00:23:25.488 --> 00:23:26.469
with a different color,

00:23:26.848 --> 00:23:27.849
I can do this drill.

00:23:28.529 --> 00:23:30.551
And so like we have to now

00:23:30.731 --> 00:23:32.192
change our app or improve

00:23:32.232 --> 00:23:34.714
our app to kind of hold up

00:23:34.755 --> 00:23:36.655
to all the cool things that

00:23:36.736 --> 00:23:39.597
all of these neuro PTs, pediatric PTs,

00:23:39.778 --> 00:23:41.199
ortho PTs are doing.

00:23:41.459 --> 00:23:42.599
They're literally making us

00:23:42.660 --> 00:23:44.500
work harder because they're

00:23:44.540 --> 00:23:46.423
creating such great things with it.

00:23:46.982 --> 00:23:47.943
but you're able to adapt.

00:23:47.963 --> 00:23:49.547
The tech is able to go, okay, cool,

00:23:50.288 --> 00:23:51.348
because it's a mixture of

00:23:51.409 --> 00:23:53.251
software and hardware, right?

00:23:53.892 --> 00:23:55.074
You're able to sort of adapt

00:23:56.296 --> 00:23:57.477
from the user's suggestion,

00:23:57.497 --> 00:23:58.198
and that's when people will

00:23:58.218 --> 00:23:59.519
not only use you for one

00:24:00.060 --> 00:24:01.162
problem to solve,

00:24:02.074 --> 00:24:02.814
you're going to have a

00:24:03.074 --> 00:24:04.414
toolbox full of problems

00:24:04.454 --> 00:24:05.255
that you can solve in a

00:24:05.295 --> 00:24:06.095
hundred different ways.

00:24:06.515 --> 00:24:09.415
You, you mentioned another, um, uh, uh,

00:24:09.496 --> 00:24:10.935
patient population that again,

00:24:11.076 --> 00:24:12.156
sports orthopedics,

00:24:12.196 --> 00:24:13.116
I feel like as a layup,

00:24:13.136 --> 00:24:13.797
that's the thing that

00:24:13.817 --> 00:24:15.076
people can see from a mile away.

00:24:15.438 --> 00:24:17.397
We talked about neuro and JJ Mattertini,

00:24:17.417 --> 00:24:18.057
you mentioned with the

00:24:18.097 --> 00:24:18.778
neuro collaborative,

00:24:19.157 --> 00:24:20.199
let's talk about two more

00:24:20.219 --> 00:24:21.999
that always sort of, um,

00:24:22.479 --> 00:24:24.880
get the short end of the stick, um,

00:24:25.380 --> 00:24:26.862
And one that doesn't,

00:24:26.961 --> 00:24:28.123
but maybe needs some more tech,

00:24:28.143 --> 00:24:29.564
and that's geriatric

00:24:30.064 --> 00:24:31.645
patients and pediatric patients.

00:24:31.665 --> 00:24:33.166
I feel like we play games with kids,

00:24:33.186 --> 00:24:34.347
but a lot of times they're toys.

00:24:34.847 --> 00:24:37.471
This feels like video games in real life.

00:24:37.570 --> 00:24:39.071
And why aren't older adults

00:24:39.112 --> 00:24:41.433
playing video games in real life?

00:24:41.453 --> 00:24:43.154
So talk about geriatric and

00:24:43.194 --> 00:24:44.096
pediatric settings,

00:24:44.155 --> 00:24:45.317
like two populations with

00:24:45.757 --> 00:24:46.817
such different needs.

00:24:47.439 --> 00:24:48.880
But I feel like if you put a

00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:50.701
creative trainer or PT in

00:24:50.721 --> 00:24:52.163
the room with BlazePods and those people,

00:24:52.323 --> 00:24:53.183
they figure it out.

00:24:54.161 --> 00:24:55.323
So one of the biggest

00:24:55.363 --> 00:24:56.523
problems that we have,

00:24:56.585 --> 00:24:57.806
and I see it everywhere,

00:24:58.186 --> 00:24:59.469
we treat our older adult

00:24:59.489 --> 00:25:01.330
population like they're made of glass.

00:25:01.932 --> 00:25:04.174
Like we will not challenge them.

00:25:04.234 --> 00:25:05.938
Like what weight did you just give them?

00:25:06.397 --> 00:25:08.320
One pound, one pound.

00:25:09.096 --> 00:25:10.477
Like that's doing nothing.

00:25:11.077 --> 00:25:11.298
Right.

00:25:11.458 --> 00:25:12.499
So, so we don't,

00:25:12.538 --> 00:25:13.819
we don't give them enough weight.

00:25:13.859 --> 00:25:14.840
We're too afraid.

00:25:14.901 --> 00:25:16.221
And maybe it's lawsuits and

00:25:16.301 --> 00:25:17.002
stuff that I'm going to,

00:25:17.303 --> 00:25:18.163
that I don't know about.

00:25:18.324 --> 00:25:18.584
Okay.

00:25:18.984 --> 00:25:20.006
What I'm going to focus on

00:25:20.165 --> 00:25:22.146
is these older adult,

00:25:22.188 --> 00:25:23.608
they want to be challenged.

00:25:23.868 --> 00:25:25.951
They want to go after that goal.

00:25:26.211 --> 00:25:27.571
They want to get to that number.

00:25:28.073 --> 00:25:31.715
I saw, uh, this woman with, um, uh,

00:25:31.736 --> 00:25:33.837
spinal cord injury couldn't roll and

00:25:34.317 --> 00:25:36.400
We couldn't cue her to roll.

00:25:36.920 --> 00:25:38.521
But when we put the pods next to her,

00:25:38.541 --> 00:25:39.482
we're like, go get that.

00:25:39.722 --> 00:25:42.045
She's like, boom, boom, boom.

00:25:42.384 --> 00:25:43.486
All of a sudden something in

00:25:43.506 --> 00:25:44.747
her neural system was like,

00:25:45.067 --> 00:25:46.548
I need to get after those.

00:25:46.588 --> 00:25:48.589
And so I would say blaze pod.

00:25:49.090 --> 00:25:51.212
If I, if I tell you to run, Hey, go,

00:25:51.593 --> 00:25:52.794
go touch that and come back.

00:25:53.094 --> 00:25:54.695
You're like, ah, my legs are heavy.

00:25:54.756 --> 00:25:55.355
Maybe I will.

00:25:55.395 --> 00:25:56.237
Maybe I won't.

00:25:56.297 --> 00:25:56.477
Yeah.

00:25:57.478 --> 00:25:58.179
And you'll go there.

00:25:58.318 --> 00:25:59.140
Maybe you come back.

00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:01.741
Now, if I have a light there and I'm like,

00:26:01.801 --> 00:26:02.942
all right, this is a reactive light.

00:26:03.182 --> 00:26:04.305
You can set the time so you

00:26:04.325 --> 00:26:05.425
have a second and a half to

00:26:05.445 --> 00:26:06.826
get there or two seconds to get there.

00:26:07.307 --> 00:26:08.828
When you have a target,

00:26:08.868 --> 00:26:10.130
when you have something to do,

00:26:10.569 --> 00:26:11.991
you're going for it.

00:26:12.372 --> 00:26:12.711
That's why...

00:26:14.063 --> 00:26:14.884
When you're training,

00:26:14.923 --> 00:26:15.865
like you're a sprinter,

00:26:16.045 --> 00:26:17.346
you may never accomplish

00:26:17.365 --> 00:26:21.128
your sprint goal until competition.

00:26:21.788 --> 00:26:23.029
It's like it's live.

00:26:23.049 --> 00:26:24.230
Things are hyped up.

00:26:24.270 --> 00:26:26.133
It's like now it's time.

00:26:26.212 --> 00:26:28.193
Now I'm under the shooter's pistol.

00:26:28.595 --> 00:26:29.875
Now there's the finish line.

00:26:30.336 --> 00:26:31.977
So all of that is what

00:26:32.017 --> 00:26:32.857
happens when you're

00:26:32.897 --> 00:26:33.999
creating these drills for

00:26:34.019 --> 00:26:35.200
your client population.

00:26:35.700 --> 00:26:37.320
The same thing happens, Jimmy,

00:26:37.682 --> 00:26:39.163
in the pediatric population.

00:26:39.303 --> 00:26:41.964
And I would put like a big flag on,

00:26:42.184 --> 00:26:42.785
not a red flag,

00:26:42.805 --> 00:26:45.346
but a green go flag on autism.

00:26:45.847 --> 00:26:47.288
The autistic population that

00:26:47.308 --> 00:26:48.250
people are working with,

00:26:48.269 --> 00:26:49.711
and there's some neural elements there,

00:26:49.971 --> 00:26:51.852
they love BlazePod.

00:26:52.192 --> 00:26:53.513
And one of the reasons why

00:26:53.594 --> 00:26:55.454
is because it helps them focus.

00:26:55.954 --> 00:26:57.036
One of the drills on it is

00:26:57.076 --> 00:26:58.176
we give you distracting

00:26:58.237 --> 00:26:59.577
lights or we'll say, okay,

00:27:00.019 --> 00:27:01.400
you have to only touch that

00:27:01.420 --> 00:27:02.961
color with this hand and

00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.261
that color with this hand.

00:27:05.323 --> 00:27:06.624
And if you see this color,

00:27:06.804 --> 00:27:07.765
you got to turn around and

00:27:07.785 --> 00:27:08.806
do whatever it is.

00:27:09.227 --> 00:27:10.448
So you can give them these

00:27:10.468 --> 00:27:13.411
cognitive cues for each light color.

00:27:13.830 --> 00:27:15.113
But what happens is because

00:27:15.212 --> 00:27:18.175
now there's so much focus,

00:27:18.455 --> 00:27:20.938
they don't lose that like three seconds.

00:27:21.038 --> 00:27:21.118
Oh,

00:27:21.219 --> 00:27:22.859
I'm out chasing butterflies or I'm

00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:23.721
looking for this and this.

00:27:24.101 --> 00:27:25.163
You are in it.

00:27:25.903 --> 00:27:27.384
And so a lot of the science

00:27:27.403 --> 00:27:28.744
shows it's like we do a lot

00:27:28.785 --> 00:27:29.625
of drills for thirty

00:27:29.665 --> 00:27:30.645
seconds because people are

00:27:30.665 --> 00:27:32.207
going one hundred percent

00:27:32.508 --> 00:27:34.409
geriatric pediatric doesn't matter.

00:27:34.449 --> 00:27:35.128
These people are going one

00:27:35.148 --> 00:27:35.930
hundred percent because

00:27:35.950 --> 00:27:37.730
there's a timer on it and

00:27:37.750 --> 00:27:39.051
they want to accomplish that.

00:27:39.071 --> 00:27:40.373
They want to beat the score.

00:27:41.012 --> 00:27:43.433
But what what it does on the

00:27:43.493 --> 00:27:44.513
other side is that it

00:27:44.554 --> 00:27:46.755
allows you to just lock in.

00:27:46.934 --> 00:27:47.994
And so we'll put it on like

00:27:48.035 --> 00:27:49.155
two or three minutes so

00:27:49.175 --> 00:27:50.375
that you can get this nice

00:27:50.796 --> 00:27:52.596
like cardiovascular fatigue,

00:27:52.797 --> 00:27:55.817
this nice metabolic fatigue

00:27:55.837 --> 00:27:57.358
that's happening or sorry,

00:27:57.419 --> 00:27:58.939
neurological fatigue that's

00:27:58.979 --> 00:28:00.138
happening at the same time

00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:01.599
after a period of like two

00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:02.240
to three minutes.

00:28:02.619 --> 00:28:02.779
Well,

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.381
that person who's never been able to

00:28:04.441 --> 00:28:05.861
focus longer than ten

00:28:05.961 --> 00:28:08.241
seconds now just did a full

00:28:08.281 --> 00:28:10.222
blown drill for three minutes.

00:28:10.742 --> 00:28:12.224
So now you're creating those

00:28:12.285 --> 00:28:13.965
neural pathways that have

00:28:13.986 --> 00:28:15.768
to do with stamina and resilience,

00:28:15.847 --> 00:28:17.409
whereas before they they

00:28:17.449 --> 00:28:18.150
couldn't do that.

00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:19.611
And so they're really big in

00:28:19.631 --> 00:28:20.872
that pediatric setting.

00:28:21.452 --> 00:28:23.034
A lot of coaches will use it for that.

00:28:23.074 --> 00:28:24.315
They're like, yo, go hit the pods.

00:28:24.355 --> 00:28:25.155
This is your drill.

00:28:25.395 --> 00:28:26.537
I'll see you in ten minutes.

00:28:27.077 --> 00:28:28.358
And they let them go.

00:28:28.439 --> 00:28:29.799
And these kids like they'll

00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.040
run the app by themselves.

00:28:31.221 --> 00:28:33.002
They are one hundred percent focused.

00:28:33.373 --> 00:28:34.894
Games, when you give,

00:28:34.933 --> 00:28:36.295
we rise to the level of our

00:28:36.394 --> 00:28:38.276
competition or our

00:28:38.316 --> 00:28:39.916
motivation and can things,

00:28:40.277 --> 00:28:41.438
motivation's intrinsic.

00:28:41.458 --> 00:28:42.179
We talked about this the

00:28:42.199 --> 00:28:42.999
other day on the show.

00:28:43.439 --> 00:28:44.220
But when you can give me an

00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:46.141
external stimuli to then

00:28:46.181 --> 00:28:48.603
change my internal motivation, it works.

00:28:48.982 --> 00:28:49.603
This is a game.

00:28:49.623 --> 00:28:50.884
This is, you know, hey,

00:28:50.923 --> 00:28:52.105
some people aren't into running.

00:28:52.625 --> 00:28:54.184
but some people will chase a ball all day.

00:28:54.346 --> 00:28:54.625
Great.

00:28:54.945 --> 00:28:55.526
Let's, let's,

00:28:55.605 --> 00:28:56.645
let's throw a ball in front of them.

00:28:56.665 --> 00:28:56.826
Let's,

00:28:56.965 --> 00:28:58.267
let's make them do different things

00:28:58.287 --> 00:28:59.567
to get different things out of it.

00:28:59.886 --> 00:29:01.567
You mentioned data a few minutes ago,

00:29:01.807 --> 00:29:03.367
and obviously I'm just

00:29:03.407 --> 00:29:04.528
playing catch up here, right?

00:29:04.548 --> 00:29:05.949
Just learning about blaze pods.

00:29:06.909 --> 00:29:08.670
But research, something really important.

00:29:08.690 --> 00:29:09.589
You guys are supporting the

00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:10.569
foundation for physical

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:11.951
therapy research as a partner.

00:29:11.971 --> 00:29:13.651
It's an organization that I'm, you know,

00:29:13.691 --> 00:29:16.571
pretty related with having

00:29:16.672 --> 00:29:17.472
served on the board of

00:29:17.492 --> 00:29:18.393
trustees for the last,

00:29:19.012 --> 00:29:20.413
five years, which is weird to think.

00:29:20.433 --> 00:29:21.134
I've been doing something

00:29:21.153 --> 00:29:21.934
like this for five years.

00:29:22.335 --> 00:29:23.976
But that's an organization, essentially,

00:29:23.996 --> 00:29:24.836
people are like, what do they do?

00:29:24.876 --> 00:29:25.517
I'm like, well,

00:29:25.557 --> 00:29:26.097
if you wanna be able to

00:29:26.157 --> 00:29:28.318
prove something in physical therapy,

00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:29.279
you need research.

00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:30.461
To do that, you need people.

00:29:30.840 --> 00:29:32.201
To do that full-time, you need money.

00:29:33.041 --> 00:29:34.262
And it just sounds like, man,

00:29:34.323 --> 00:29:35.784
BlazePod is probably a tool

00:29:35.804 --> 00:29:37.444
people could use on

00:29:38.086 --> 00:29:39.487
research studies to gather

00:29:39.586 --> 00:29:41.268
effective data on time and

00:29:41.307 --> 00:29:42.548
speed and amplitude and all

00:29:42.588 --> 00:29:43.409
those different things

00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:44.730
without having to have a

00:29:45.230 --> 00:29:46.971
lab that costs ten million dollars.

00:29:47.901 --> 00:29:50.223
So David Rowan with SME, who, you know,

00:29:51.205 --> 00:29:51.787
great guy.

00:29:51.826 --> 00:29:52.827
He actually introduced me to

00:29:52.887 --> 00:29:53.750
one of my heroes,

00:29:53.789 --> 00:29:55.031
which is Marilyn Moffitt.

00:29:56.794 --> 00:29:58.395
We are a new partner in research.

00:29:58.557 --> 00:30:01.141
And so I've mentioned Sarah earlier,

00:30:01.201 --> 00:30:03.423
Sarah Chaffee and David and

00:30:04.023 --> 00:30:04.785
They invited us in,

00:30:04.805 --> 00:30:05.525
they introduced us to a

00:30:05.545 --> 00:30:07.046
bunch of different people in that space.

00:30:07.925 --> 00:30:11.567
We love the idea of supporting research.

00:30:11.768 --> 00:30:12.948
The University of Utah,

00:30:13.268 --> 00:30:14.848
George Davies with Southern

00:30:14.888 --> 00:30:15.869
Georgia University,

00:30:16.309 --> 00:30:17.670
he's one of the leaders in

00:30:17.710 --> 00:30:18.631
taking BlazePod.

00:30:18.671 --> 00:30:20.832
In fact, he and Kevin Wilt,

00:30:21.332 --> 00:30:22.593
Have the most incredible

00:30:22.613 --> 00:30:23.733
like they're trying to

00:30:23.794 --> 00:30:25.435
change the return to sport

00:30:25.476 --> 00:30:27.477
or return to play or return to activity,

00:30:27.517 --> 00:30:28.518
whatever we're calling it now.

00:30:29.038 --> 00:30:30.839
That protocol to basically

00:30:30.900 --> 00:30:33.241
say BlazePod is the tool

00:30:33.261 --> 00:30:34.583
that needs to be used

00:30:34.923 --> 00:30:36.263
because it is the one that

00:30:36.364 --> 00:30:38.105
actually measures reaction time.

00:30:38.665 --> 00:30:39.946
So there's three separate

00:30:40.007 --> 00:30:41.608
third party studies that

00:30:41.848 --> 00:30:43.710
validate BlazePod as a

00:30:43.769 --> 00:30:45.571
reliable measurement system.

00:30:45.932 --> 00:30:46.772
We didn't pay for it.

00:30:47.353 --> 00:30:48.493
Somebody came out and did that.

00:30:49.334 --> 00:30:50.275
University of Utah, again,

00:30:50.295 --> 00:30:50.934
like I was saying,

00:30:51.234 --> 00:30:52.996
they have used it as a

00:30:53.076 --> 00:30:54.037
measurement system for

00:30:54.297 --> 00:30:55.498
other things they're doing.

00:30:57.679 --> 00:30:58.219
That's awesome.

00:30:58.239 --> 00:31:00.461
That just proves how accurate the tech is.

00:31:01.080 --> 00:31:03.001
Then George Davies and Zach

00:31:03.041 --> 00:31:04.682
Thomas and a number of other PTs,

00:31:05.022 --> 00:31:06.703
they're doing actual protocols.

00:31:06.743 --> 00:31:08.285
Maybe there's the shoulder

00:31:08.325 --> 00:31:10.165
protocol that takes you

00:31:10.205 --> 00:31:11.227
from one thing to another.

00:31:11.646 --> 00:31:12.968
they're they're creating

00:31:13.008 --> 00:31:14.588
those protocols using blaze

00:31:14.628 --> 00:31:16.430
pod so instead of just you

00:31:16.450 --> 00:31:17.810
know touching and reaching

00:31:17.851 --> 00:31:19.332
and having like oh use your

00:31:19.372 --> 00:31:20.872
goniometer use your like

00:31:20.892 --> 00:31:22.692
you know your your eyes

00:31:22.874 --> 00:31:24.714
giving these unbiased or

00:31:24.734 --> 00:31:26.855
these biased opinions now

00:31:27.316 --> 00:31:28.557
uh you can basically just

00:31:28.576 --> 00:31:29.617
say all right this is a

00:31:29.678 --> 00:31:30.798
quantitative game this is a

00:31:30.877 --> 00:31:31.759
numbers game here

00:31:32.378 --> 00:31:33.519
baseline for that it's

00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:34.759
someone you're a a male at

00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:35.760
someone your age dealing

00:31:35.800 --> 00:31:37.161
with you know that issue

00:31:37.181 --> 00:31:37.922
you had in your rotator

00:31:37.961 --> 00:31:39.563
cuff there's that that the

00:31:39.603 --> 00:31:40.643
range of that score is like

00:31:40.663 --> 00:31:42.564
a forty and our algorithm

00:31:42.604 --> 00:31:43.544
with our tech is really

00:31:43.584 --> 00:31:45.065
cool because anybody who

00:31:45.125 --> 00:31:46.846
does it like really wrong

00:31:46.885 --> 00:31:48.626
or really fast like we just

00:31:48.646 --> 00:31:50.788
take a subset this big and

00:31:50.867 --> 00:31:52.828
so we're really linear or

00:31:52.848 --> 00:31:55.029
really uh targeted on

00:31:56.010 --> 00:31:56.871
The range we're taking.

00:31:56.891 --> 00:31:58.271
So a thousand people do it

00:31:58.712 --> 00:31:59.772
like we're taking that

00:31:59.853 --> 00:32:01.575
medium score and that it's

00:32:01.615 --> 00:32:02.556
not a wide gap.

00:32:02.576 --> 00:32:04.876
You want to be as accurate as possible.

00:32:05.397 --> 00:32:06.558
And so now we're looking at

00:32:06.618 --> 00:32:07.799
physical therapy clinics

00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:08.700
setting up these

00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:11.021
standardized protocols or

00:32:11.061 --> 00:32:13.263
assessments that they used to do for,

00:32:13.683 --> 00:32:16.066
you know, upper extremity mobility tests,

00:32:16.105 --> 00:32:16.625
et cetera.

00:32:17.047 --> 00:32:17.926
And now they're doing it

00:32:17.967 --> 00:32:19.608
with reaction and lights.

00:32:20.009 --> 00:32:22.171
And that's where true performance comes in,

00:32:22.211 --> 00:32:24.673
because now you have to be responsive.

00:32:25.373 --> 00:32:26.693
Like I could probably cheat

00:32:26.733 --> 00:32:27.653
my way into anything.

00:32:27.693 --> 00:32:28.594
I'm pretty athletic.

00:32:28.993 --> 00:32:30.275
But the moment you give me a

00:32:30.375 --> 00:32:31.535
score to beat and I'm going

00:32:31.555 --> 00:32:33.955
to throw like you can't cheat that.

00:32:34.476 --> 00:32:35.696
So that's one of the things

00:32:35.717 --> 00:32:36.537
that has been really

00:32:36.576 --> 00:32:38.217
impactful on the on the research side.

00:32:38.698 --> 00:32:40.938
Our big hope is to continue Davies,

00:32:41.178 --> 00:32:41.338
you know,

00:32:41.398 --> 00:32:43.138
supporting Davies and Wilk and saying,

00:32:43.179 --> 00:32:43.479
hey,

00:32:43.898 --> 00:32:45.859
we are all for your return to play

00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.361
protocol using BlazePod.

00:32:47.701 --> 00:32:49.101
How can we support that and

00:32:49.141 --> 00:32:50.521
how do we get the other PTs

00:32:50.541 --> 00:32:52.261
in the world to support

00:32:52.301 --> 00:32:54.262
that where reaction time becomes

00:32:54.742 --> 00:32:56.584
one of the key components to

00:32:56.624 --> 00:32:57.805
get back into activity

00:32:57.884 --> 00:33:00.405
which accordingly it isn't

00:33:00.665 --> 00:33:01.566
uh to this date there's

00:33:01.605 --> 00:33:02.846
another there's another

00:33:02.886 --> 00:33:04.287
decree or another element

00:33:04.307 --> 00:33:05.167
sorry I'm not a I'm not a

00:33:05.208 --> 00:33:07.308
pt uh that basically says

00:33:07.328 --> 00:33:07.969
all right this is the

00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:08.950
protocol for return to

00:33:08.990 --> 00:33:11.171
activity um and they want

00:33:11.191 --> 00:33:12.911
to include blaze pod or or

00:33:12.990 --> 00:33:14.051
basically change it to

00:33:14.071 --> 00:33:16.413
blaze pod being the component of of that

00:33:16.593 --> 00:33:16.772
Well,

00:33:17.134 --> 00:33:18.454
that's what PTs are always looking for,

00:33:18.515 --> 00:33:18.655
right?

00:33:18.675 --> 00:33:19.717
What's the gold standard?

00:33:19.777 --> 00:33:21.118
What's the thing that if I

00:33:21.179 --> 00:33:23.201
measure it on this study,

00:33:23.401 --> 00:33:25.423
I'm comparing it the same

00:33:25.463 --> 00:33:26.525
way that someone else did

00:33:26.545 --> 00:33:27.425
it in that study?

00:33:27.465 --> 00:33:29.028
We want to make sure that

00:33:29.048 --> 00:33:30.349
whatever we're doing and measuring,

00:33:30.690 --> 00:33:31.932
we're not just an outlier

00:33:32.011 --> 00:33:33.212
or someone can't replicate it.

00:33:33.653 --> 00:33:33.993
So, I mean...

00:33:34.914 --> 00:33:35.295
I don't know.

00:33:35.315 --> 00:33:36.955
We're recording this in twenty twenty four,

00:33:36.996 --> 00:33:39.057
but it might not be long

00:33:39.076 --> 00:33:41.117
before BlazePod is the gold

00:33:41.178 --> 00:33:42.317
standard or looked at like

00:33:42.357 --> 00:33:43.979
the gold standard tool in

00:33:44.038 --> 00:33:45.319
terms of reaction time or

00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.921
however PTs can use it.

00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:52.083
So let me let me ask you this.

00:33:52.143 --> 00:33:54.784
What would the future look like if.

00:33:55.770 --> 00:33:57.314
you can now in terms of clinics.

00:33:57.334 --> 00:33:57.653
So where,

00:33:57.875 --> 00:33:59.657
what I'm getting at is where were you,

00:33:59.958 --> 00:34:00.818
where the hell was blaze

00:34:00.859 --> 00:34:02.082
pods seven years ago when I

00:34:02.142 --> 00:34:03.364
first got out of PT school

00:34:03.865 --> 00:34:06.208
and I pitched an idea to

00:34:06.248 --> 00:34:07.170
the first clinic owner,

00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:09.273
Carlos that I worked for.

00:34:09.333 --> 00:34:10.094
And I said, listen,

00:34:10.976 --> 00:34:12.536
Let's take the thing that

00:34:13.197 --> 00:34:14.657
football fans for some

00:34:14.697 --> 00:34:16.378
reason love to watch to get

00:34:16.458 --> 00:34:17.398
new patients in the door.

00:34:17.438 --> 00:34:18.059
He was like, Jimmy,

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:19.039
you have a marketing background.

00:34:19.059 --> 00:34:19.760
Now you're a PT.

00:34:20.121 --> 00:34:21.661
So I walked in one day and said, Carlos,

00:34:22.081 --> 00:34:22.862
we're going to create the

00:34:22.922 --> 00:34:25.443
combine for baseball players.

00:34:25.483 --> 00:34:26.123
And we're going to create

00:34:26.143 --> 00:34:27.523
the combine for volleyball

00:34:27.543 --> 00:34:29.606
players where we do four

00:34:29.686 --> 00:34:31.646
upper extremity tests and

00:34:31.706 --> 00:34:33.146
four lower extremity tests.

00:34:33.507 --> 00:34:34.507
And then we rank them

00:34:34.527 --> 00:34:35.708
because volleyball players

00:34:35.728 --> 00:34:37.148
and baseball players and swimmers,

00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:38.349
they're going to be different.

00:34:38.570 --> 00:34:40.411
So you rank them according to their sport.

00:34:40.630 --> 00:34:41.630
And then the tests you give

00:34:41.650 --> 00:34:44.552
them are as sport specific as we can get.

00:34:44.972 --> 00:34:46.132
And now the competition,

00:34:46.172 --> 00:34:48.474
where do I rank element comes into it.

00:34:48.773 --> 00:34:49.835
And I'm testing something

00:34:49.855 --> 00:34:51.114
that if it gets better,

00:34:51.655 --> 00:34:53.996
it's been shown somewhere to say, well,

00:34:54.036 --> 00:34:55.916
your performance in the game gets better,

00:34:56.077 --> 00:34:57.458
which is really what I want to do.

00:34:57.538 --> 00:34:58.217
I want to I don't want to

00:34:58.237 --> 00:34:59.539
just get better at a thing in the gym.

00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:00.559
I want to get better at the

00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:01.179
thing on the field.

00:35:01.539 --> 00:35:03.239
So I'm a little pissed that

00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:04.260
you that this wasn't a

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.001
thing in twenty sixteen when I graduate.

00:35:06.021 --> 00:35:06.882
That's all I wanted to say.

00:35:07.458 --> 00:35:09.079
Well, I love it because, A,

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.280
you basically talked about

00:35:10.300 --> 00:35:11.360
the last fifteen years of

00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:12.882
my life in creating.

00:35:13.023 --> 00:35:13.822
We ran the U.S.

00:35:13.902 --> 00:35:14.844
Army All-American Bowl

00:35:14.884 --> 00:35:16.204
Combine for ten years.

00:35:16.746 --> 00:35:18.027
And now with BlazePod,

00:35:18.086 --> 00:35:19.228
we've taken that and we've

00:35:19.288 --> 00:35:20.048
run with people.

00:35:20.088 --> 00:35:22.010
Kerry Walsh's P- fourteen forty program.

00:35:22.389 --> 00:35:24.112
We run hundreds of girls

00:35:24.132 --> 00:35:25.012
through volleyball

00:35:25.072 --> 00:35:26.994
performance using BlazePod.

00:35:28.954 --> 00:35:30.735
The BlazePod games or whatever it is,

00:35:30.775 --> 00:35:31.735
we've done agility tests

00:35:31.775 --> 00:35:33.255
and cognitive tests and speed tests,

00:35:33.577 --> 00:35:35.637
all using BlazePod across

00:35:35.896 --> 00:35:37.197
numerous different sports.

00:35:37.637 --> 00:35:38.777
What we haven't done is

00:35:38.838 --> 00:35:40.038
exactly what you're saying,

00:35:40.177 --> 00:35:41.619
and that's incorporating

00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.418
that into the world of physical therapy.

00:35:44.579 --> 00:35:45.980
Baseline testing first,

00:35:46.300 --> 00:35:47.500
how are you getting better?

00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:48.920
There's also so many

00:35:49.061 --> 00:35:49.920
advocates for using

00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.202
BlazePod for concussion protocol as well.

00:35:52.222 --> 00:35:53.702
I hadn't thought of that.

00:35:54.081 --> 00:35:55.083
When you talk about the

00:35:55.103 --> 00:35:56.083
brain and you talk about

00:35:56.123 --> 00:35:57.125
these gold standards,

00:35:57.144 --> 00:35:58.786
there's always this hesitation,

00:35:58.827 --> 00:36:00.588
like who's going to pave the way,

00:36:00.628 --> 00:36:01.349
who's going to lead the

00:36:01.409 --> 00:36:03.211
path where we're not doing

00:36:03.271 --> 00:36:04.172
something that is so

00:36:04.213 --> 00:36:05.454
disruptive that nobody's

00:36:05.474 --> 00:36:07.036
that like we're going to get criticized.

00:36:07.356 --> 00:36:09.297
We're all so worried about our reputation,

00:36:09.318 --> 00:36:10.699
which I believe is important.

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:11.960
We're dealing with human beings.

00:36:12.041 --> 00:36:13.101
We don't want to hurt anybody.

00:36:13.742 --> 00:36:14.742
But at some point,

00:36:14.762 --> 00:36:16.523
there's got to be the group

00:36:16.543 --> 00:36:17.284
that comes out there.

00:36:17.364 --> 00:36:19.864
Maybe it's the partners in research.

00:36:19.925 --> 00:36:24.025
Maybe it's the path that Davies, Wilk,

00:36:24.266 --> 00:36:25.706
Zach Thomas, and Lewis,

00:36:26.206 --> 00:36:28.288
they're on to this return to play.

00:36:28.688 --> 00:36:30.668
There are enough people now

00:36:30.768 --> 00:36:33.329
trying to do what you kind

00:36:33.369 --> 00:36:36.771
of said in this setting that we,

00:36:37.190 --> 00:36:37.731
as a team,

00:36:37.751 --> 00:36:39.210
we're now here in the US five years.

00:36:39.231 --> 00:36:40.771
Our company's about, I think,

00:36:41.271 --> 00:36:43.313
seven or maybe nine years now old,

00:36:43.793 --> 00:36:44.733
we're at a place where we

00:36:44.813 --> 00:36:46.454
want to support research.

00:36:46.494 --> 00:36:49.315
We want to support all these things.

00:36:49.394 --> 00:36:50.914
And now we're finding PTs

00:36:50.934 --> 00:36:52.135
that can find grants and

00:36:52.155 --> 00:36:54.697
they're finding compliance

00:36:54.737 --> 00:36:55.617
reports and they're now

00:36:55.697 --> 00:36:56.817
knowing how to bill for

00:36:56.856 --> 00:36:58.137
BlazePod under Neuro.

00:36:58.737 --> 00:37:00.699
so right and that's only

00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.501
happening like this year so

00:37:02.862 --> 00:37:03.882
like that was the big thing

00:37:03.902 --> 00:37:04.643
before it's like oh you're

00:37:04.664 --> 00:37:05.664
not compliant how do we

00:37:05.704 --> 00:37:06.826
code this how do we do this

00:37:07.306 --> 00:37:08.306
and now I just had a phone

00:37:08.327 --> 00:37:09.307
call with the this the

00:37:09.327 --> 00:37:10.369
compliance officer and

00:37:10.389 --> 00:37:11.710
she's like we we tag it

00:37:11.789 --> 00:37:13.371
neuro and we and we've had

00:37:13.411 --> 00:37:14.393
success doing that

00:37:14.913 --> 00:37:16.514
So I think we're getting to

00:37:16.534 --> 00:37:18.655
a place where we can now

00:37:18.775 --> 00:37:20.295
start creating these great

00:37:20.335 --> 00:37:21.456
modalities using this

00:37:21.516 --> 00:37:23.135
incredible tech to get our

00:37:23.175 --> 00:37:24.396
clients where they need to be.

00:37:25.016 --> 00:37:26.597
I hate to say it, but faster,

00:37:27.018 --> 00:37:29.298
like more enjoyable and faster.

00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:30.840
Well, the enjoyable part.

00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.181
It forces you to go harder.

00:37:34.860 --> 00:37:36.681
Yeah, it makes you want to do it.

00:37:37.402 --> 00:37:38.862
What's the biggest differentiate?

00:37:38.882 --> 00:37:40.523
What's the best exercise to

00:37:40.563 --> 00:37:41.943
do for ACL reconstruction?

00:37:42.284 --> 00:37:43.204
The one you're going to do.

00:37:44.175 --> 00:37:45.777
That better exercise that

00:37:45.797 --> 00:37:47.418
you don't do doesn't work.

00:37:47.818 --> 00:37:49.320
So if you can make me do something,

00:37:50.041 --> 00:37:50.880
I'm not a math guy,

00:37:50.981 --> 00:37:53.023
but something is better than nothing,

00:37:53.242 --> 00:37:53.543
right?

00:37:54.724 --> 00:37:55.445
I looked at it like a

00:37:55.505 --> 00:37:58.387
patient acquisition driver, right?

00:37:58.407 --> 00:38:00.871
That combine idea I had was probably...

00:38:01.431 --> 00:38:02.331
ahead of its time like the

00:38:02.371 --> 00:38:03.572
tech was it would be too

00:38:03.592 --> 00:38:04.733
complicated for us to do it

00:38:04.753 --> 00:38:06.253
back in twenty sixteen but

00:38:06.273 --> 00:38:08.313
it was like hey uh every

00:38:08.534 --> 00:38:09.755
first wednesday of the

00:38:09.815 --> 00:38:10.956
night we're gonna do of the

00:38:10.996 --> 00:38:12.876
month we're gonna do the

00:38:12.916 --> 00:38:14.336
volleyball combine and

00:38:14.356 --> 00:38:15.177
we're gonna get the message

00:38:15.217 --> 00:38:16.018
out to every volleyball

00:38:16.057 --> 00:38:17.458
team in in the in the area

00:38:17.518 --> 00:38:19.119
and you come in and the testing is free

00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:20.920
Because baseline testing is great.

00:38:21.001 --> 00:38:21.541
It's fun.

00:38:21.641 --> 00:38:22.882
It exposes people to the clinic.

00:38:23.181 --> 00:38:24.623
Maybe peripherally down the line,

00:38:24.922 --> 00:38:26.123
that person's like, oh, I was in there.

00:38:26.143 --> 00:38:27.083
That space is dope.

00:38:27.103 --> 00:38:27.983
That is a place I wouldn't

00:38:28.003 --> 00:38:29.184
mind working out and getting better.

00:38:29.445 --> 00:38:30.184
That's your referral.

00:38:30.606 --> 00:38:31.766
Those are table stakes, right?

00:38:31.806 --> 00:38:33.706
Getting people in and doing tests.

00:38:33.726 --> 00:38:35.347
But now it's not just come see our space.

00:38:35.387 --> 00:38:37.108
It's bring your workout clothes, man.

00:38:37.128 --> 00:38:37.728
Bring your sneakers.

00:38:37.768 --> 00:38:38.610
We're going to do some stuff.

00:38:38.829 --> 00:38:40.590
That's free of charge, right?

00:38:41.050 --> 00:38:42.070
But now you get into, well,

00:38:42.090 --> 00:38:42.811
what's your goal?

00:38:42.911 --> 00:38:43.192
Well,

00:38:43.291 --> 00:38:44.532
I want to get a scholarship in three

00:38:44.552 --> 00:38:45.833
years to play volleyball in college.

00:38:46.112 --> 00:38:46.253
Well,

00:38:46.313 --> 00:38:47.634
according to the thousand people

00:38:47.653 --> 00:38:48.715
we've run through this test,

00:38:49.355 --> 00:38:51.135
volleyball players in your age range,

00:38:51.255 --> 00:38:52.197
people like you who want to

00:38:52.237 --> 00:38:52.958
do the thing like you,

00:38:53.358 --> 00:38:55.278
you fit in the top fifty percentile.

00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:56.440
You probably have to fit in

00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:57.521
the top ten percentile if

00:38:57.541 --> 00:38:58.442
you want to get a scholarship.

00:38:58.501 --> 00:38:59.882
So here's the plan.

00:39:00.762 --> 00:39:02.824
So that's what you sell is the path.

00:39:02.885 --> 00:39:03.625
You're Yoda, man.

00:39:04.686 --> 00:39:05.987
You still have the path to

00:39:06.027 --> 00:39:06.967
get there to become a Jedi,

00:39:06.987 --> 00:39:08.208
but you don't charge them

00:39:08.248 --> 00:39:09.489
for the lightsaber, right?

00:39:09.588 --> 00:39:11.469
Like the lightsaber is blaze pods.

00:39:11.769 --> 00:39:12.590
That's come on in here.

00:39:12.610 --> 00:39:13.990
Let's see how you do now.

00:39:14.150 --> 00:39:15.050
And then by the way,

00:39:15.452 --> 00:39:16.431
I can help you do it later.

00:39:16.592 --> 00:39:18.012
To me, it was patient acquisition.

00:39:18.353 --> 00:39:19.112
Make it fun.

00:39:19.373 --> 00:39:20.293
And here's the best part.

00:39:20.693 --> 00:39:22.135
We talked about this a minute ago.

00:39:22.554 --> 00:39:23.835
The bar is so damn low.

00:39:24.255 --> 00:39:25.677
You're competing against the

00:39:25.976 --> 00:39:29.458
beige painted office with the –

00:39:28.597 --> 00:39:28.777
you know,

00:39:28.858 --> 00:39:30.438
forty two rubber bands and the

00:39:30.498 --> 00:39:31.398
weights that aren't heavier

00:39:31.418 --> 00:39:32.239
than a gallon of milk.

00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:33.759
You the bar is so low,

00:39:33.778 --> 00:39:35.340
you instantly stand out.

00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.000
You immediately like you are

00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.400
light years ahead of your competition.

00:39:39.661 --> 00:39:40.561
So when there's a choice

00:39:40.601 --> 00:39:42.021
between your clinic or the other clinic,

00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:43.902
that choice is typically binary.

00:39:44.161 --> 00:39:45.581
You either choose A or B.

00:39:45.902 --> 00:39:47.563
And if you're not picked, you lose.

00:39:47.583 --> 00:39:48.563
There's no second place in

00:39:48.603 --> 00:39:49.922
the second best PT clinic.

00:39:49.963 --> 00:39:50.182
Right.

00:39:50.202 --> 00:39:50.903
When you're talking about

00:39:51.023 --> 00:39:52.143
one patient and who they choose.

00:39:52.764 --> 00:39:53.784
I feel like for an

00:39:53.804 --> 00:39:54.545
investment on a couple

00:39:54.565 --> 00:39:55.744
hundred bucks in place pods.

00:39:56.583 --> 00:39:57.585
This is a layup.

00:39:57.706 --> 00:39:58.467
Like you're going to make

00:39:58.487 --> 00:40:02.637
your money back in a day, three days,

00:40:02.757 --> 00:40:03.759
a week at tops.

00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:05.702
If you, well, if you open the box.

00:40:08.367 --> 00:40:08.586
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:08.606 --> 00:40:09.648
You got to open that box.

00:40:10.047 --> 00:40:12.507
And there are grants out there, too.

00:40:12.547 --> 00:40:14.608
This poor girl, she's like, oh,

00:40:15.248 --> 00:40:16.048
we don't have money.

00:40:16.068 --> 00:40:17.650
We've been looking for this grant.

00:40:17.710 --> 00:40:18.610
The we don't have money

00:40:18.630 --> 00:40:19.710
thing always trips me out.

00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:21.471
I'm like, you're buried at interest, like,

00:40:22.670 --> 00:40:23.831
you can get everything you

00:40:23.871 --> 00:40:26.552
need for two ninety-nine.

00:40:26.911 --> 00:40:30.132
What's the four seasons?

00:40:30.253 --> 00:40:31.873
What's the Lamborghini of, like,

00:40:32.012 --> 00:40:32.893
everything in a box?

00:40:33.373 --> 00:40:34.353
I was looking online every day.

00:40:34.434 --> 00:40:35.753
It's a couple hundred bucks, right?

00:40:37.027 --> 00:40:37.668
If you get like,

00:40:37.728 --> 00:40:39.009
we do this something called

00:40:39.028 --> 00:40:41.909
the PT facility clinic bundle.

00:40:43.190 --> 00:40:45.233
And that gives you, that's twelve pods.

00:40:45.432 --> 00:40:45.913
It's basically,

00:40:46.233 --> 00:40:47.974
it's twelve of everything basically.

00:40:48.414 --> 00:40:49.514
And you're looking at like a

00:40:49.594 --> 00:40:50.536
thousand bucks.

00:40:52.077 --> 00:40:53.257
A thousand bucks divided

00:40:53.297 --> 00:40:54.237
over twelve months.

00:40:54.297 --> 00:40:54.878
And you're saying...

00:40:55.795 --> 00:40:56.577
Well, you're getting, yeah,

00:40:56.717 --> 00:40:57.719
you're getting twelve pods,

00:40:57.739 --> 00:40:58.581
you're getting the chargers,

00:40:58.601 --> 00:40:59.442
you're getting the cords,

00:40:59.461 --> 00:41:00.784
you're getting the cone adapters,

00:41:00.804 --> 00:41:01.846
you're getting the suction cups,

00:41:01.865 --> 00:41:02.708
you're getting the straps,

00:41:02.728 --> 00:41:04.309
you're getting the wall mounts,

00:41:04.329 --> 00:41:05.452
you're getting the pod bases,

00:41:05.492 --> 00:41:07.295
like literally anything

00:41:07.315 --> 00:41:09.579
that you need to support your clients.

00:41:10.213 --> 00:41:11.094
I don't want to challenge

00:41:11.114 --> 00:41:13.115
people and be too edgy,

00:41:13.155 --> 00:41:14.436
but if you can't make this

00:41:14.496 --> 00:41:16.637
worth ten times a thousand bucks,

00:41:17.478 --> 00:41:18.798
you're not a great, I mean,

00:41:18.818 --> 00:41:19.920
you're just not creative.

00:41:20.019 --> 00:41:20.619
I don't, I mean,

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.201
you don't even need to be that creative.

00:41:22.240 --> 00:41:23.322
You just follow what other

00:41:23.362 --> 00:41:24.501
creative people have done.

00:41:25.182 --> 00:41:26.684
And this thing is going to pay for, I mean,

00:41:26.724 --> 00:41:27.483
in my mind, again,

00:41:27.503 --> 00:41:28.925
I'm getting no financial obligation,

00:41:28.945 --> 00:41:30.565
you know, reimbursement from BlazePod.

00:41:30.766 --> 00:41:32.126
If you want to send me a kit, that's cool.

00:41:32.987 --> 00:41:33.987
But I mean, to me,

00:41:34.168 --> 00:41:35.568
there's a layup where if

00:41:35.628 --> 00:41:36.869
this doesn't pay for itself,

00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:38.409
you haven't taken it out of the box,

00:41:38.550 --> 00:41:39.110
in my opinion.

00:41:39.898 --> 00:41:40.998
Yeah, I agree.

00:41:41.018 --> 00:41:42.219
And the other component we

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.862
look at is we want you to succeed.

00:41:45.784 --> 00:41:46.625
So I offer,

00:41:46.684 --> 00:41:48.666
I'm doing our introductory

00:41:48.706 --> 00:41:50.128
sessions all the time with

00:41:50.148 --> 00:41:50.809
different clinics.

00:41:51.309 --> 00:41:53.251
So if you buy a facility

00:41:53.291 --> 00:41:54.992
bundle and you have six to

00:41:55.052 --> 00:41:56.074
ten clinicians,

00:41:56.954 --> 00:41:57.614
Jump on it.

00:41:57.815 --> 00:41:58.594
You know, we get free.

00:41:58.815 --> 00:41:59.755
We need this for free.

00:41:59.876 --> 00:42:00.615
Jump on.

00:42:00.815 --> 00:42:01.536
I will talk to you.

00:42:01.655 --> 00:42:03.615
I will have my app, my pods,

00:42:04.016 --> 00:42:05.137
and we'll walk you through

00:42:05.376 --> 00:42:07.356
everything because we want

00:42:07.396 --> 00:42:08.617
you to have success because

00:42:08.637 --> 00:42:09.697
the more success you have,

00:42:10.077 --> 00:42:11.358
the more you're going to spread the word,

00:42:11.597 --> 00:42:12.237
the more you're going to

00:42:12.358 --> 00:42:13.117
use them properly,

00:42:13.137 --> 00:42:13.858
the more they're actually

00:42:13.878 --> 00:42:15.498
going to be lit up in the clinic.

00:42:15.818 --> 00:42:16.699
The thing that frustrates me

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:17.818
the most is when I go into

00:42:17.838 --> 00:42:18.778
a clinic or somewhere and I

00:42:18.838 --> 00:42:20.259
see like I bought them like

00:42:20.278 --> 00:42:20.980
four years ago,

00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:21.940
like we've just never used.

00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.260
They're just sitting in a corner.

00:42:23.780 --> 00:42:25.581
And like, it legitimately hurts my heart.

00:42:25.601 --> 00:42:28.822
I'm like, like, they're so good.

00:42:29.003 --> 00:42:30.923
You're not giving your patients what they,

00:42:31.125 --> 00:42:32.585
you could be giving them.

00:42:32.704 --> 00:42:36.487
I remember on my rotation, even like,

00:42:36.527 --> 00:42:36.668
I mean,

00:42:36.708 --> 00:42:38.108
I was working in a skilled nursing

00:42:38.148 --> 00:42:39.789
facility for a few weeks

00:42:40.429 --> 00:42:42.371
and like just bringing simple games,

00:42:42.431 --> 00:42:43.692
like a Wii or something

00:42:43.711 --> 00:42:45.932
like that made people's minds change.

00:42:46.514 --> 00:42:48.155
Oh, she doesn't, she doesn't do PT.

00:42:48.175 --> 00:42:49.155
She doesn't like get involved.

00:42:49.175 --> 00:42:50.016
And you put something in

00:42:50.056 --> 00:42:51.597
front of them that beeps and flashes and

00:42:53.001 --> 00:42:54.222
Our brains are wired for that.

00:42:54.302 --> 00:42:55.682
Like in a good way, we're big,

00:42:55.702 --> 00:42:56.304
dumb animals.

00:42:56.324 --> 00:42:57.224
All right, MC,

00:42:57.965 --> 00:42:58.606
last thing we do on the

00:42:58.646 --> 00:42:59.987
episode is called the parting shot.

00:43:00.427 --> 00:43:01.467
It's your last chance for

00:43:01.527 --> 00:43:02.949
like a mic drop moment,

00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:03.809
soapbox statement.

00:43:04.471 --> 00:43:05.931
What would you want to say to the audience,

00:43:06.172 --> 00:43:07.733
mostly PTs or PT students

00:43:07.753 --> 00:43:08.614
that listen to us?

00:43:08.693 --> 00:43:09.454
What's your parting shot?

00:43:10.373 --> 00:43:11.974
Party shot is I have no idea

00:43:11.994 --> 00:43:13.074
why Jimmy is wearing a New

00:43:13.094 --> 00:43:14.817
York Yankees jacket since

00:43:14.856 --> 00:43:16.878
my Dodgers beat them last night.

00:43:17.619 --> 00:43:18.619
You can't jump off.

00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:19.360
I'm from New York.

00:43:19.380 --> 00:43:20.141
You can't jump off.

00:43:20.181 --> 00:43:20.922
Congratulations.

00:43:20.942 --> 00:43:22.202
They did play a hell of a series.

00:43:22.764 --> 00:43:23.003
Sorry.

00:43:23.023 --> 00:43:25.246
That was the mean party shot.

00:43:25.326 --> 00:43:26.206
I'll take that shot.

00:43:26.527 --> 00:43:27.547
is this.

00:43:28.688 --> 00:43:30.628
I was an employee for BlazePod.

00:43:30.847 --> 00:43:32.849
I found BlazePod because of

00:43:33.128 --> 00:43:34.208
the neuroscience work that

00:43:34.369 --> 00:43:35.469
I was doing as a strength

00:43:35.489 --> 00:43:36.789
and conditioning coach and

00:43:36.809 --> 00:43:38.329
a behavioral psychology guy.

00:43:38.650 --> 00:43:40.349
Let's call it an enthusiast.

00:43:40.969 --> 00:43:43.391
I found them to be literally

00:43:43.891 --> 00:43:46.632
the best way to spread my message.

00:43:47.012 --> 00:43:48.811
And that message was this idea of,

00:43:48.992 --> 00:43:49.532
at BlazePod,

00:43:49.552 --> 00:43:51.152
we call it reactive intelligence.

00:43:51.693 --> 00:43:53.213
I always termed it cognitive

00:43:53.233 --> 00:43:54.735
agility it is the idea of

00:43:54.795 --> 00:43:56.235
this neuromotor training

00:43:56.275 --> 00:43:57.356
this neurocognitive

00:43:57.396 --> 00:43:58.958
training and again like I

00:43:59.018 --> 00:44:00.759
said my suitcase with the

00:44:00.878 --> 00:44:02.260
all the colors the cones

00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.382
the numbers everything this

00:44:04.461 --> 00:44:06.003
simplified it and now all I

00:44:06.063 --> 00:44:07.483
need is a suitcase the size

00:44:07.523 --> 00:44:09.364
of a small or a case the

00:44:09.385 --> 00:44:10.385
size of a small football

00:44:10.706 --> 00:44:12.086
and my phone or device that

00:44:12.106 --> 00:44:13.648
I have on me all the time

00:44:14.047 --> 00:44:14.909
that's all you need

00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:16.349
And your entry,

00:44:16.528 --> 00:44:18.989
your entry level is two ninety nine.

00:44:19.489 --> 00:44:21.510
And that's for that's for four pods.

00:44:21.731 --> 00:44:22.710
You go through SME,

00:44:22.731 --> 00:44:23.271
they'll give you their

00:44:23.590 --> 00:44:25.050
their SME discount and make

00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:26.172
it even less expensive.

00:44:26.552 --> 00:44:28.211
So that it's such a small

00:44:28.311 --> 00:44:29.652
barrier to enter.

00:44:30.052 --> 00:44:32.052
And I tell people, like, just start there,

00:44:32.313 --> 00:44:33.733
start at the bare minimum,

00:44:34.132 --> 00:44:35.514
and then you can always

00:44:35.574 --> 00:44:36.313
progress from there.

00:44:36.934 --> 00:44:40.896
Crazy idea at CSM BlazePod Happy Hour.

00:44:40.916 --> 00:44:42.157
I'll live stream.

00:44:42.697 --> 00:44:45.139
You can test yourself at baseline.

00:44:45.420 --> 00:44:47.262
Test yourself after one drink.

00:44:47.621 --> 00:44:49.384
Test yourself after two drinks.

00:44:49.423 --> 00:44:50.625
Test yourself after three

00:44:50.644 --> 00:44:52.045
drinks to see how your

00:44:52.106 --> 00:44:54.688
reaction time is declining.

00:44:54.807 --> 00:44:55.889
That's real-world testing.

00:44:56.108 --> 00:44:57.570
PTs would get behind both of those things.

00:44:58.021 --> 00:44:58.320
I'm going to,

00:44:58.380 --> 00:44:59.762
I'll get behind that a hundred percent.

00:44:59.782 --> 00:45:00.963
I'll get behind it.

00:45:01.123 --> 00:45:03.505
MC, appreciate the insight.

00:45:03.686 --> 00:45:05.327
I think this is a tool that

00:45:05.367 --> 00:45:07.710
is not done figuring out

00:45:07.809 --> 00:45:09.210
all the places it can go.

00:45:09.251 --> 00:45:10.152
And the best part is the

00:45:10.271 --> 00:45:11.413
audience is going to go

00:45:11.452 --> 00:45:12.934
there and take blades pods

00:45:13.474 --> 00:45:15.076
with them versus the other way around.

00:45:15.155 --> 00:45:15.556
You don't have to,

00:45:15.817 --> 00:45:16.858
you're not going to have really have to,

00:45:16.878 --> 00:45:17.338
you have to,

00:45:17.358 --> 00:45:19.059
you're going to try to keep up really.

00:45:19.139 --> 00:45:20.260
Cause you've got creative

00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:21.842
professionals who want to get people,

00:45:21.862 --> 00:45:22.382
people better.

00:45:22.842 --> 00:45:24.744
And your, your technology does that.

00:45:25.344 --> 00:45:26.186
And it adapts,

00:45:26.367 --> 00:45:28.309
which is dangerous in a good way.

00:45:28.329 --> 00:45:29.972
Well, and the other thing that the,

00:45:30.873 --> 00:45:31.195
this is,

00:45:31.235 --> 00:45:32.096
this is a no brainer for

00:45:32.157 --> 00:45:33.177
occupational therapists.

00:45:33.759 --> 00:45:35.222
Like you're going, you're,

00:45:35.322 --> 00:45:37.445
you're a traveling therapist,

00:45:37.525 --> 00:45:38.827
like portable.

00:45:39.836 --> 00:45:41.237
portable, put nothing else in your,

00:45:41.358 --> 00:45:43.559
in your bag, but these like,

00:45:43.900 --> 00:45:44.699
cause then you can use this.

00:45:44.780 --> 00:45:46.061
You can make the stairs smart.

00:45:46.081 --> 00:45:47.101
We call it making things smart,

00:45:47.422 --> 00:45:48.461
make the stairs smart.

00:45:48.541 --> 00:45:50.563
You make that step over things smart.

00:45:50.784 --> 00:45:52.144
You make the, you know,

00:45:52.224 --> 00:45:53.264
this great red light,

00:45:53.304 --> 00:45:55.487
green light game in your hallway smart.

00:45:55.927 --> 00:45:57.068
So there's so many different

00:45:57.088 --> 00:45:58.768
components you can do.

00:45:58.829 --> 00:45:59.128
Love it.

00:45:59.748 --> 00:46:00.889
MC appreciate the insight.

00:46:01.289 --> 00:46:03.871
I would wish blaze pods luck, but I don't,

00:46:04.211 --> 00:46:04.972
I don't think you need it.

00:46:05.052 --> 00:46:05.693
So well done.

00:46:06.273 --> 00:46:07.434
Appreciate your love, man.