What Color is your Personality Profile?

WEBVTT00:00:00.629 --> 00:00:02.908Are you stressed?00:00:06.855 --> 00:00:07.516go through I need to00:00:07.575 --> 00:00:09.037actually create us a legit00:00:09.196 --> 00:00:11.378like intro for someday I00:00:11.398 --> 00:00:11.958don't know if you have the00:00:12.019 --> 00:00:13.359name of our show down just00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:14.942yet brunch bunch sounds a00:00:14.981 --> 00:00:17.484little it's not as it needs00:00:17.504 --> 00:00:18.463to be I don't know I'm a00:00:18.484 --> 00:00:19.625little more accurate but hi00:00:20.006 --> 00:00:20.806welcome back to the live00:00:20.826 --> 00:00:22.387stream we do this every00:00:22.446 --> 00:00:26.830thursday at 10 30 45 ish00:00:27.411 --> 00:00:28.251should we get around to00:00:28.271 --> 00:00:29.213it's like having a radio00:00:29.253 --> 00:00:30.493show whenever you want00:00:31.254 --> 00:00:32.414uh that is rebecca griffith00:00:32.795 --> 00:00:34.814that is elise the uncle pt00:00:34.835 --> 00:00:36.356and I'm jimmy and welcome00:00:36.375 --> 00:00:37.176back to the live stream00:00:37.276 --> 00:00:37.996that we then turn into a00:00:38.036 --> 00:00:39.456podcast episodes and yada00:00:39.475 --> 00:00:41.536yada uh so elise you had a00:00:41.576 --> 00:00:43.817thought which is fun and00:00:44.158 --> 00:00:45.158you highlighted that it is00:00:45.198 --> 00:00:46.018almost the end of quarter00:00:46.177 --> 00:00:47.539one and you wanted to talk00:00:47.579 --> 00:00:49.338about something good that00:00:49.378 --> 00:00:52.000you had done yes that has00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:53.640brought you positive I'm00:00:53.780 --> 00:00:54.820guessing positive results00:00:54.860 --> 00:00:56.401or positive uh vibes00:00:56.966 --> 00:00:58.046Very positive results.00:00:58.207 --> 00:01:01.829So I have felt very anti New00:01:01.848 --> 00:01:03.308Year's resolutions for a long time,00:01:03.429 --> 00:01:04.329mainly because I would set00:01:04.370 --> 00:01:05.250them and then they would00:01:05.290 --> 00:01:06.771never happen because I00:01:06.811 --> 00:01:07.731didn't take the steps to00:01:07.772 --> 00:01:09.933actually like it is a me thing.00:01:10.173 --> 00:01:11.492Hello, it's me on the problem.00:01:11.533 --> 00:01:11.793It's me.00:01:12.674 --> 00:01:15.055But I actually had Rebecca00:01:15.174 --> 00:01:17.115on my own podcast towards00:01:17.156 --> 00:01:18.135the end of last year.00:01:18.415 --> 00:01:20.856And she, like I was dealing with burnout.00:01:21.378 --> 00:01:22.278This was something that I00:01:22.457 --> 00:01:23.379was really struggling with.00:01:23.418 --> 00:01:24.858I was down in basically this00:01:24.918 --> 00:01:26.780pit and going through this00:01:26.900 --> 00:01:28.661exercise that Rebecca had me do.00:01:30.474 --> 00:01:31.355Has actually worked.00:01:31.475 --> 00:01:32.816And the biggest difference for me,00:01:32.876 --> 00:01:35.239which we can get into what it was,00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:36.260because Rebecca's obviously00:01:36.301 --> 00:01:36.960here to talk about it,00:01:37.561 --> 00:01:38.722but I was reflecting last00:01:38.783 --> 00:01:39.924night and one of the goals00:01:39.983 --> 00:01:41.445I set for myself was I want00:01:41.486 --> 00:01:42.966to guest on someone else's00:01:43.046 --> 00:01:45.989podcast once a month for the whole year.00:01:46.831 --> 00:01:49.813And this was before this00:01:50.233 --> 00:01:51.275started happening.00:01:51.495 --> 00:01:52.796And it's just like,00:01:54.361 --> 00:01:55.483This was probably the first00:01:55.563 --> 00:01:56.664example in my life of like,00:01:56.825 --> 00:01:58.566I spoke it into existence00:01:58.906 --> 00:01:59.828and it's happening.00:02:00.069 --> 00:02:01.971And this is like such an,00:02:02.251 --> 00:02:03.754like a brain unlock for me.00:02:03.774 --> 00:02:05.096And I'm just so excited about it.00:02:05.115 --> 00:02:06.016Now, hold on.00:02:06.438 --> 00:02:07.099So we heard that.00:02:07.179 --> 00:02:08.259Now I want to hear from Rebecca.00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:09.342Why did it work?00:02:10.233 --> 00:02:10.432Well,00:02:10.453 --> 00:02:12.054I would say the reason that that00:02:12.133 --> 00:02:13.213particular thing worked00:02:13.294 --> 00:02:14.294right was because not only00:02:14.335 --> 00:02:15.715did you speak it into existence,00:02:15.794 --> 00:02:16.955you spoke it to somebody00:02:17.675 --> 00:02:20.137else who could help you manifest that,00:02:20.197 --> 00:02:20.396right?00:02:20.456 --> 00:02:22.198So I think that's the big00:02:22.237 --> 00:02:22.877piece about this.00:02:22.897 --> 00:02:24.618Because then Jimmy says to me, hey,00:02:24.878 --> 00:02:26.079we should record this podcast,00:02:26.098 --> 00:02:27.500but I think we need another person.00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:28.520Who would you suggest?00:02:28.900 --> 00:02:29.120I'm like,00:02:29.139 --> 00:02:31.061you know who has a goal about00:02:31.100 --> 00:02:32.442being on another podcast?00:02:33.361 --> 00:02:35.823A certain Texas Barbie PT that I know.00:02:36.752 --> 00:02:37.992Do you consider... That's00:02:38.013 --> 00:02:38.973the first time I've ever heard that.00:02:39.234 --> 00:02:40.254Texas Barbie PT?00:02:40.375 --> 00:02:41.034Oh, we're Barbies.00:02:41.215 --> 00:02:41.596We're Barbies.00:02:41.616 --> 00:02:42.156What does that mean?00:02:43.056 --> 00:02:43.697We're PT Barbies.00:02:43.717 --> 00:02:44.937Have you seen the Barbie movie, Jimmy?00:02:45.318 --> 00:02:47.120I haven't, but I was around for the buzz.00:02:47.659 --> 00:02:48.980So I feel like that movie00:02:49.542 --> 00:02:51.823re-co-opted the term where00:02:51.842 --> 00:02:55.526I feel like 15 years ago or 15 months ago,00:02:56.165 --> 00:02:57.426Barbie was a negative term.00:02:57.788 --> 00:02:58.087Correct.00:02:58.168 --> 00:02:59.049I didn't see the movie.00:02:59.109 --> 00:03:00.550So explain it to me why now00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:02.390women have re-co-opted00:03:02.450 --> 00:03:04.953Barbie into a positive term.00:03:05.713 --> 00:03:06.193Explain that to me.00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:08.260You explain that.00:03:09.100 --> 00:03:09.602I'll go first.00:03:09.942 --> 00:03:10.162Yeah.00:03:11.022 --> 00:03:12.524So I have always been a Barbie girl.00:03:12.604 --> 00:03:15.145Like Barbie was the name of00:03:15.186 --> 00:03:16.728the toy forever and always00:03:16.768 --> 00:03:17.388that I played with my00:03:17.427 --> 00:03:19.330sister at home growing up.00:03:19.889 --> 00:03:22.171And so when I played with00:03:22.211 --> 00:03:22.992Barbies growing up,00:03:23.312 --> 00:03:24.394Barbie was everything.00:03:24.454 --> 00:03:25.514My favorite Barbie that I00:03:25.555 --> 00:03:26.635played with was actually a00:03:26.955 --> 00:03:28.456secret agent spy Barbie.00:03:28.477 --> 00:03:29.698I didn't realize they had secret agents.00:03:31.270 --> 00:03:32.831And so, you know,00:03:33.073 --> 00:03:34.675that was my favorite Barbie,00:03:34.715 --> 00:03:35.756but I had other Barbies.00:03:36.197 --> 00:03:36.758And so for me,00:03:36.897 --> 00:03:38.379Barbie was always whoever I00:03:38.439 --> 00:03:39.361wanted her to be.00:03:39.562 --> 00:03:40.423And so now that I've00:03:41.377 --> 00:03:42.758grown older.00:03:42.798 --> 00:03:43.718I'm not going to say grown up.00:03:44.258 --> 00:03:45.960I have realized that that00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.701has come through in my own life of like,00:03:48.282 --> 00:03:50.623I can be whoever I want to be.00:03:51.403 --> 00:03:52.685And so that's how I've00:03:52.745 --> 00:03:54.786reclaimed Barbie for me.00:03:54.887 --> 00:03:56.367And seeing that on the big00:03:56.427 --> 00:03:58.308screen was very much like, yes,00:03:58.748 --> 00:03:59.469I am a Barbie.00:03:59.909 --> 00:04:00.670I am a Barbie PT.00:04:00.691 --> 00:04:02.032I'd say it was like the00:04:02.072 --> 00:04:03.331complete opposite for me though.00:04:03.513 --> 00:04:05.014Cause I didn't have Barbies growing up.00:04:05.033 --> 00:04:06.133Like my mom was like, no,00:04:06.193 --> 00:04:08.175like that's not like a positive thing.00:04:09.415 --> 00:04:10.936Also, they were expensive.00:04:12.556 --> 00:04:13.537So I didn't really like I00:04:13.576 --> 00:04:14.616might have played with them00:04:14.637 --> 00:04:15.977in like the church nursery00:04:16.096 --> 00:04:17.798or like places like that.00:04:18.458 --> 00:04:19.117But for me,00:04:19.197 --> 00:04:21.697like I never really felt like a00:04:21.798 --> 00:04:23.158Barbie girl because I never00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:24.358really felt like I fit in.00:04:24.819 --> 00:04:25.899And I definitely was never00:04:25.939 --> 00:04:27.278going to like hit that aesthetic.00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:28.338And so for me,00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.699like Barbie was this thing00:04:29.740 --> 00:04:31.120that another thing that I00:04:31.180 --> 00:04:32.079didn't fit into.00:04:32.180 --> 00:04:33.500And I spent so much of my00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.461life like feeling like I didn't fit in.00:04:36.081 --> 00:04:36.401And then.00:04:37.401 --> 00:04:40.482trying to that I spent many00:04:40.622 --> 00:04:43.603of my 42 years trying to00:04:43.723 --> 00:04:45.444blend in and fit in and not00:04:45.483 --> 00:04:47.524be noticed but I kind of00:04:47.545 --> 00:04:48.504have this personality that00:04:48.524 --> 00:04:49.485doesn't blend very well00:04:49.505 --> 00:04:50.086which I'm sure you've00:04:50.105 --> 00:04:51.887noticed and so for me00:04:52.007 --> 00:04:53.406seeing this barbie movie00:04:53.487 --> 00:04:54.867was like there were so many00:04:54.947 --> 00:04:56.767different barbies yes and00:04:56.788 --> 00:04:58.528that was the coolest like00:04:58.548 --> 00:04:59.408there were barbies of all00:04:59.428 --> 00:05:00.470shapes and sizes there were00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:01.449barbies that had brown hair00:05:01.490 --> 00:05:02.411there were barbies that00:05:02.670 --> 00:05:03.610were black there were00:05:03.651 --> 00:05:05.591barbies that were disabled like it was00:05:07.156 --> 00:05:07.855It felt good.00:05:08.057 --> 00:05:09.117Like it felt like you could00:05:09.137 --> 00:05:10.538be a part of the Barbie00:05:10.737 --> 00:05:12.178without being Barbie.00:05:13.259 --> 00:05:13.639Yes.00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:15.240And I loved like the,00:05:16.201 --> 00:05:17.281the whole premise of like00:05:17.422 --> 00:05:19.083Barbies can run the world, you know?00:05:19.262 --> 00:05:20.963And so Elise and I have just00:05:20.983 --> 00:05:21.985been like on this Barbie00:05:22.004 --> 00:05:23.725girl PT kick that we are00:05:23.766 --> 00:05:25.047just Barbie PTs now.00:05:25.107 --> 00:05:25.526And we love it.00:05:25.627 --> 00:05:28.588And I also in my around age 40.00:05:28.668 --> 00:05:29.069So all,00:05:29.189 --> 00:05:30.329all those people out there who tell00:05:30.350 --> 00:05:31.271you like when you're 40,00:05:31.271 --> 00:05:32.831like your whole self-confidence changes.00:05:32.872 --> 00:05:33.971I think that's absolutely true.00:05:33.992 --> 00:05:34.471Yeah.00:05:35.452 --> 00:05:36.954Well, I'm not trying to fit in anymore.00:05:38.536 --> 00:05:39.838I've kind of accepted who I00:05:40.057 --> 00:05:41.699am and I'm leaning into that.00:05:42.440 --> 00:05:43.601And I'm like finding my00:05:43.682 --> 00:05:45.644identity outside of being just a mom,00:05:45.684 --> 00:05:48.026being just a PT, being just a wife,00:05:48.086 --> 00:05:48.906being just a daughter,00:05:48.947 --> 00:05:50.369like whatever that might be.00:05:50.869 --> 00:05:51.911And I'm figuring out and00:05:51.951 --> 00:05:53.351leaning into who I am.00:05:53.372 --> 00:05:55.274And Elise thinks that's some00:05:55.314 --> 00:05:55.894kind of Barbie.00:05:58.305 --> 00:06:00.206I heard this just the other day, and again,00:06:00.226 --> 00:06:01.026I'm very good with quotes,00:06:01.047 --> 00:06:02.408but bad at remembering who said it,00:06:02.447 --> 00:06:03.367but they said you can't00:06:04.269 --> 00:06:05.930blend in and stand out.00:06:05.970 --> 00:06:07.610You can't stand out at blending in.00:06:08.130 --> 00:06:09.971Those two things are in juxtaposition.00:06:10.673 --> 00:06:12.033So we'll go back to Elise,00:06:12.252 --> 00:06:13.053and then you guys are00:06:13.074 --> 00:06:14.035giving me some things to00:06:14.095 --> 00:06:15.995think about and potentially do.00:06:16.755 --> 00:06:18.959So why did you say I want to00:06:19.019 --> 00:06:20.641guest on another podcast every month?00:06:20.721 --> 00:06:21.721Why was that a goal?00:06:21.742 --> 00:06:22.983That's a great tangible.00:06:23.004 --> 00:06:25.005That's a task or that's an action.00:06:25.406 --> 00:06:26.648But how did that fit in your structure?00:06:26.668 --> 00:06:27.127Why?00:06:27.189 --> 00:06:28.189What's the point?00:06:28.209 --> 00:06:29.151Tell them about the vision.00:06:29.350 --> 00:06:30.512Tell them about the keystone.00:06:30.913 --> 00:06:31.694Tell them about that.00:06:31.874 --> 00:06:33.096It's an awesome important part.00:06:33.656 --> 00:06:34.177Oh my God.00:06:34.197 --> 00:06:36.838All of a sudden I'm getting00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:37.658sweaty because I'm getting00:06:37.699 --> 00:06:39.401put on the spot in a good way by Rebecca.00:06:40.420 --> 00:06:42.663I want to be the premier00:06:42.843 --> 00:06:44.043physical therapist.00:06:44.485 --> 00:06:45.985When you think of oncology,00:06:46.026 --> 00:06:48.788you think of me as a destination,00:06:48.827 --> 00:06:50.528a one-stop shop for getting00:06:50.750 --> 00:06:52.011the most accurate00:06:52.370 --> 00:06:53.591information that you can00:06:53.632 --> 00:06:54.992compassionately implement00:06:55.173 --> 00:06:56.293with your patients.00:06:56.814 --> 00:06:59.396And so for me, in order to increase my,00:07:00.216 --> 00:07:02.699That awareness of what I do00:07:03.038 --> 00:07:04.519is leveraging other00:07:04.579 --> 00:07:07.983people's audiences so that I can say, hey,00:07:08.502 --> 00:07:09.023this is me.00:07:09.084 --> 00:07:09.824This is what I do.00:07:09.884 --> 00:07:10.985This is how I am going to00:07:11.024 --> 00:07:12.886help you better help your00:07:12.906 --> 00:07:14.307patients that you're already seeing.00:07:14.708 --> 00:07:17.389And so this was one way in00:07:17.449 --> 00:07:18.870which I can increase that00:07:19.411 --> 00:07:21.533awareness without having to00:07:21.572 --> 00:07:23.494go out and build a whole00:07:24.033 --> 00:07:26.355nother audience of people, you know,00:07:26.396 --> 00:07:27.317for my podcast.00:07:27.336 --> 00:07:27.557Yeah.00:07:28.341 --> 00:07:29.322Just changing the world.00:07:29.824 --> 00:07:31.946Just changing like she just00:07:31.985 --> 00:07:32.745picked a corner of the00:07:32.766 --> 00:07:33.326world and she's like,00:07:33.346 --> 00:07:34.007I'm going to change it.00:07:34.267 --> 00:07:36.250Now let's play verbal tennis, right?00:07:36.610 --> 00:07:38.091Verbal tennis is where like fast.00:07:38.232 --> 00:07:38.833All right.00:07:38.932 --> 00:07:39.913So does this mean you think00:07:39.934 --> 00:07:41.595you're the world's best oncology PT?00:07:41.615 --> 00:07:42.375Is that what you're saying?00:07:42.997 --> 00:07:43.117No.00:07:43.617 --> 00:07:43.778No.00:07:44.117 --> 00:07:45.218But you want it to be known00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.060as someone who this is my jam.00:07:48.290 --> 00:07:49.391And that's probably not easy00:07:49.430 --> 00:07:51.711to do because by stepping out,00:07:51.771 --> 00:07:53.451some people might take shots at me like,00:07:53.471 --> 00:07:54.372who does she think she is?00:07:54.992 --> 00:07:55.771That never goes away.00:07:56.091 --> 00:07:57.192Oh, there are people that do that.00:07:57.233 --> 00:07:57.892Believe both of us.00:07:58.773 --> 00:07:59.093Oh, yeah.00:07:59.213 --> 00:08:01.473No, I get that all the time.00:08:01.773 --> 00:08:02.052Yeah, well,00:08:02.072 --> 00:08:03.613I watched your podcast eight years ago.00:08:03.653 --> 00:08:04.413I got, who the hell?00:08:04.473 --> 00:08:05.233You're a student.00:08:05.394 --> 00:08:06.574Who the hell do you think you are?00:08:06.613 --> 00:08:07.913And I was like, oh, maybe you're right.00:08:08.293 --> 00:08:09.014And other people were like,00:08:09.274 --> 00:08:09.935you're a guy asking00:08:09.975 --> 00:08:10.935questions and you don't00:08:10.954 --> 00:08:11.735need permission to do that.00:08:12.495 --> 00:08:14.035So what's the next step then?00:08:14.194 --> 00:08:15.475So guesting on other00:08:15.495 --> 00:08:17.096people's podcasts is a great step.00:08:17.930 --> 00:08:18.891What else does this look like?00:08:18.911 --> 00:08:19.850What does success look like?00:08:20.271 --> 00:08:21.973Or did I go back for just a second?00:08:23.293 --> 00:08:24.995So when you asked her that question,00:08:25.035 --> 00:08:25.956does she think she's the00:08:25.995 --> 00:08:27.617world's best oncology PT?00:08:28.096 --> 00:08:29.257That's not what she's saying at all.00:08:29.298 --> 00:08:30.939What I hear her saying is,00:08:31.860 --> 00:08:33.740I want to help people in00:08:33.780 --> 00:08:36.562the world provide optimal00:08:36.602 --> 00:08:38.565care for this patient population,00:08:39.024 --> 00:08:39.985and I want to be the one00:08:40.025 --> 00:08:41.047that helps build that.00:08:41.726 --> 00:08:42.827And I want to be the one00:08:43.128 --> 00:08:44.489that supports people who00:08:44.909 --> 00:08:46.130also want to do that.00:08:46.650 --> 00:08:48.231So what she's saying is not00:08:48.292 --> 00:08:49.312only does she believe in00:08:49.352 --> 00:08:50.453this patient population,00:08:50.634 --> 00:08:51.735but she believes we need to00:08:51.774 --> 00:08:53.015level up and she's00:08:53.155 --> 00:08:54.517committed to doing that work.00:08:54.878 --> 00:08:55.879Is she saying she's the best?00:08:55.899 --> 00:08:56.239No,00:08:56.359 --> 00:08:57.740she's saying I'm committed to doing00:08:57.759 --> 00:08:58.159this work.00:08:58.299 --> 00:08:59.041I'm going to build it.00:08:59.100 --> 00:08:59.981People are going to come and00:09:00.022 --> 00:09:01.543we're going to transform healthcare.00:09:01.743 --> 00:09:02.583Who's coming with me.00:09:02.683 --> 00:09:04.105This is the Jerry Maguire.00:09:04.485 --> 00:09:05.746This is the grab the goldfish.00:09:06.407 --> 00:09:09.188Lisa, are you too young for Jerry Maguire?00:09:09.730 --> 00:09:10.009Yes.00:09:10.610 --> 00:09:10.649Ew.00:09:12.711 --> 00:09:13.711It hurts me in my soul.00:09:13.731 --> 00:09:15.952This happens a lot with Elise.00:09:16.533 --> 00:09:17.173Sorry.00:09:18.333 --> 00:09:20.335It's because you seem so mature.00:09:20.394 --> 00:09:21.975I'm just like, she knows.00:09:22.236 --> 00:09:22.937That's on you.00:09:25.322 --> 00:09:25.902Um, all right.00:09:26.001 --> 00:09:26.562So let's, all right.00:09:26.621 --> 00:09:27.402So this is kind of fun.00:09:27.422 --> 00:09:28.802Cause Rebecca does sort of like,00:09:29.163 --> 00:09:29.802what do you call it?00:09:29.863 --> 00:09:30.923Life coaching or goal?00:09:31.043 --> 00:09:31.743What would you call it?00:09:31.763 --> 00:09:33.524Professional development planning.00:09:33.543 --> 00:09:34.224That sounds okay.00:09:34.244 --> 00:09:34.844That sounds better.00:09:35.104 --> 00:09:35.803Cause I feel like life00:09:35.844 --> 00:09:37.065coaching sounds a little froofy,00:09:37.225 --> 00:09:37.924but life coaching and00:09:37.965 --> 00:09:39.404professional development, they're kind of,00:09:39.445 --> 00:09:40.945they're similar, maybe not the same,00:09:40.985 --> 00:09:42.206but like the goal is how do00:09:42.225 --> 00:09:43.525I get this person to do the00:09:43.566 --> 00:09:45.405thing in five years that00:09:45.426 --> 00:09:46.886they want to do now?00:09:47.246 --> 00:09:48.187How do I get them to be that00:09:48.226 --> 00:09:48.966person in five years?00:09:49.326 --> 00:09:51.087Have I ever, have I ever shown you my, my,00:09:51.248 --> 00:09:52.347my, the pyramid that I stole?00:09:54.030 --> 00:09:54.811Stole a pyramid from a00:09:54.971 --> 00:09:56.392really expensive consulting company.00:09:56.412 --> 00:09:57.072It's on their website.00:09:57.212 --> 00:09:57.753I just stole it.00:09:57.972 --> 00:09:58.293Here it is.00:09:58.894 --> 00:09:59.953Sorry, it covers up Rebecca's face.00:10:00.174 --> 00:10:00.674Here it is.00:10:01.075 --> 00:10:02.235So this is from this company00:10:02.255 --> 00:10:03.096called Bain & Company.00:10:03.115 --> 00:10:04.437They're one of those consulting firms.00:10:05.216 --> 00:10:07.619You are an organization and you need help.00:10:07.678 --> 00:10:08.719You hire a consulting firm.00:10:08.938 --> 00:10:09.860You pay them lots of money00:10:10.139 --> 00:10:10.740for them to come in,00:10:10.941 --> 00:10:11.541tell you what's wrong.00:10:13.052 --> 00:10:13.793then tell you what to do.00:10:13.832 --> 00:10:14.493And then a lot of times00:10:14.552 --> 00:10:15.553companies just don't do it.00:10:15.653 --> 00:10:16.455It's so funny.00:10:16.495 --> 00:10:17.654It's like therapy for companies.00:10:18.076 --> 00:10:18.436Well, anyway,00:10:18.456 --> 00:10:19.297what's on the screen right now,00:10:19.336 --> 00:10:20.998if you're watching a live stream,00:10:21.097 --> 00:10:24.701is there 32 elements of value.00:10:24.900 --> 00:10:26.022This essentially is their00:10:26.081 --> 00:10:29.403periodic table of what00:10:30.264 --> 00:10:31.625people will value in a00:10:31.725 --> 00:10:32.625product or a service.00:10:33.106 --> 00:10:34.307And let me give it some context.00:10:34.447 --> 00:10:35.368So on the screen,00:10:35.548 --> 00:10:36.528it's set up like a pyramid.00:10:37.110 --> 00:10:38.850It's broken into four sections, functional,00:10:38.910 --> 00:10:39.871emotional, life-changing,00:10:39.912 --> 00:10:41.253and social impact.00:10:42.642 --> 00:10:43.523And the idea is,00:10:44.884 --> 00:10:46.365what does your product or service have,00:10:46.384 --> 00:10:48.947and then I like to chime in,00:10:49.226 --> 00:10:50.327and what also are you00:10:50.427 --> 00:10:51.288communicating to your00:10:51.328 --> 00:10:52.450audience that you have?00:10:52.570 --> 00:10:53.389Because if you have it and00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:54.630don't communicate it, it doesn't matter.00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.292If you communicate it and don't have it,00:10:56.312 --> 00:10:57.013people are going to come00:10:57.072 --> 00:10:57.754and be disappointed.00:10:57.994 --> 00:10:59.394So both need to happen.00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:04.782The product that checks the00:11:04.841 --> 00:11:06.962most boxes on this pyramid,00:11:07.383 --> 00:11:08.602would you have any guesses?00:11:08.984 --> 00:11:10.504It's a very popular product00:11:10.864 --> 00:11:12.524that a lot of people own,00:11:12.565 --> 00:11:13.365myself included.00:11:13.904 --> 00:11:15.125What is the thing that00:11:15.166 --> 00:11:16.926checks the most periodic,00:11:17.125 --> 00:11:18.726the elements of the B2C,00:11:18.986 --> 00:11:21.008business to consumer, value pyramid?00:11:21.128 --> 00:11:21.988Any ideas what it is?00:11:24.129 --> 00:11:24.668Communication.00:11:25.287 --> 00:11:25.547No, no, no.00:11:25.606 --> 00:11:26.107It's a product,00:11:26.128 --> 00:11:27.269like a thing you actually got.00:11:27.749 --> 00:11:28.149Product.00:11:28.409 --> 00:11:28.889A thing.00:11:29.431 --> 00:11:29.671Yeah.00:11:29.870 --> 00:11:30.611It's this thing right here.00:11:31.192 --> 00:11:31.653It's the iPhone.00:11:32.312 --> 00:11:33.615They said the iPhone checks00:11:33.674 --> 00:11:35.917the most boxes in actually00:11:35.976 --> 00:11:37.177providing the values that00:11:37.197 --> 00:11:38.019are found on this pyramid.00:11:38.239 --> 00:11:39.580So you can start from the bottom.00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:41.341Does an iPhone inform you?00:11:41.461 --> 00:11:41.621Yeah.00:11:41.662 --> 00:11:42.383Notifications.00:11:42.423 --> 00:11:43.244It lets me reach out to them.00:11:43.524 --> 00:11:44.244Sensory appeal.00:11:44.365 --> 00:11:45.546Steve Jobs was important in that.00:11:45.586 --> 00:11:46.225There's haptics.00:11:46.285 --> 00:11:46.886It looks pretty.00:11:47.287 --> 00:11:47.447Right.00:11:47.527 --> 00:11:48.008Variety.00:11:48.548 --> 00:11:48.729Apps.00:11:49.308 --> 00:11:50.870It not only does one thing, a phone,00:11:50.970 --> 00:11:52.571not only texting, it does a good,00:11:52.671 --> 00:11:53.672it pretty much does everything.00:11:54.032 --> 00:11:55.913Quality, Steve Jobs was important on that.00:11:56.333 --> 00:11:57.514Reduces costs.00:11:57.835 --> 00:11:59.696Well, you know, now you can start to like,00:11:59.716 --> 00:12:01.216you can get into, well, it's sort of,00:12:01.256 --> 00:12:01.677blah, blah, blah.00:12:01.897 --> 00:12:02.398Now remember,00:12:02.518 --> 00:12:04.198I'll do this exercise with organizations.00:12:05.250 --> 00:12:06.350I'll break their board or00:12:06.370 --> 00:12:07.471somebody up into groups of00:12:07.510 --> 00:12:08.511two or three and I'll go, hey,00:12:08.552 --> 00:12:09.111have fun with it.00:12:09.451 --> 00:12:10.173Here's a pyramid.00:12:10.472 --> 00:12:11.813Circle every one of these things.00:12:11.854 --> 00:12:12.573And a lot of people get,00:12:12.673 --> 00:12:13.534they get circle happy.00:12:13.855 --> 00:12:14.595They start circling.00:12:15.456 --> 00:12:16.316And I go around the room and I go,00:12:16.395 --> 00:12:17.557how many are on your list?00:12:17.636 --> 00:12:18.236How many on your list?00:12:19.057 --> 00:12:20.238And then I finally put up00:12:20.258 --> 00:12:21.259the big list on the screen.00:12:21.298 --> 00:12:21.739I go, great.00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:22.659Now we're going to open your website.00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.301We're going to go to your Instagram page.00:12:24.441 --> 00:12:25.301We're going to go to your YouTube.00:12:25.681 --> 00:12:27.562Show me where you do this.00:12:28.523 --> 00:12:29.523Then show me where and when00:12:29.543 --> 00:12:30.443you communicate this.00:12:30.524 --> 00:12:31.364And that's when we get what00:12:31.384 --> 00:12:32.225I call rhubarb.00:12:33.125 --> 00:12:34.066Have you ever heard of rhubarb?00:12:35.215 --> 00:12:37.155On a movie set, people in the background,00:12:37.275 --> 00:12:38.155background actors,00:12:38.697 --> 00:12:39.677they have to actually be00:12:39.716 --> 00:12:41.817talking to create that sort of din,00:12:41.937 --> 00:12:43.057that noise in the background.00:12:43.077 --> 00:12:44.339They can't be saying things00:12:44.359 --> 00:12:44.979because then the audience00:12:45.139 --> 00:12:45.879would pick up on the mic.00:12:46.419 --> 00:12:47.360So background actors are00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:48.120taught to say the word00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.041rhubarb over and over and00:12:49.061 --> 00:12:50.120over again because it kind00:12:50.140 --> 00:12:50.780of sounds like nothing.00:12:51.322 --> 00:12:51.761I learned this.00:12:52.101 --> 00:12:52.721I learned random things.00:12:53.481 --> 00:12:55.082So it's when you ask a room00:12:55.102 --> 00:12:56.124full of students a question00:12:56.344 --> 00:12:57.583and they're like, do you know the answer?00:12:57.663 --> 00:13:00.245And they start to sort of say, rhubarb,00:13:00.284 --> 00:13:00.945rhubarb, rhubarb.00:13:01.806 --> 00:13:02.806They're not saying anything.00:13:03.567 --> 00:13:04.366That's what happens.00:13:05.485 --> 00:13:05.745People,00:13:05.905 --> 00:13:07.527they think that there's a value there.00:13:09.349 --> 00:13:10.529Like, I feel this value.00:13:10.629 --> 00:13:11.811I think, I'm like, great, where is it?00:13:12.150 --> 00:13:14.153Well, you sort of just got to, nope,00:13:14.173 --> 00:13:14.673that's not how it works.00:13:15.173 --> 00:13:16.294If the value isn't there.00:13:17.375 --> 00:13:18.697So the reason I bring this up is like,00:13:18.716 --> 00:13:22.581Elise, you are the product of the OncoPT.00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.120Not now, because we're live right now.00:13:26.921 --> 00:13:28.020I would suggest taking a00:13:28.041 --> 00:13:30.361look at this and just Google B,00:13:30.741 --> 00:13:32.383the number, letter B, the number two,00:13:32.403 --> 00:13:33.582the letter C, value pyramid.00:13:33.602 --> 00:13:34.224And you'll get this.00:13:34.403 --> 00:13:35.264With an explainer,00:13:35.303 --> 00:13:36.464their website's actually interactive.00:13:36.484 --> 00:13:37.725So you can click on each one00:13:37.745 --> 00:13:39.885of these circles and it'll00:13:39.905 --> 00:13:41.326give you examples of a00:13:41.426 --> 00:13:42.246product that you've heard00:13:42.346 --> 00:13:43.667of that demonstrates each00:13:43.746 --> 00:13:45.008one of these 32 elements.00:13:45.687 --> 00:13:46.768And like the big one on top,00:13:46.788 --> 00:13:47.629self-transcendence.00:13:47.688 --> 00:13:48.568It's like, what is that?00:13:49.048 --> 00:13:51.049Their example for that is Tom's Shoes.00:13:52.365 --> 00:13:54.086By buying a pair of Tom's shoes,00:13:54.386 --> 00:13:55.767you feel like you are helping society.00:13:55.966 --> 00:13:56.648You are a part of that.00:13:56.707 --> 00:13:57.307You started it.00:13:57.347 --> 00:13:59.009You bought the shoes and Tom's shoes.00:13:59.229 --> 00:13:59.948When you buy a pair,00:14:00.048 --> 00:14:00.788they give away a pair.00:14:01.929 --> 00:14:03.230That's why Tom's shoes keeps00:14:03.250 --> 00:14:03.870getting talked about00:14:03.909 --> 00:14:05.211because that Bombas socks00:14:05.510 --> 00:14:06.211is another example.00:14:06.291 --> 00:14:06.951Buy a pair of socks.00:14:06.991 --> 00:14:07.892Do you have Bombas socks?00:14:07.912 --> 00:14:11.033Is that why you're... Here's the thing.00:14:11.754 --> 00:14:12.933You need to be able to have00:14:12.974 --> 00:14:14.754these values and you need00:14:14.774 --> 00:14:15.575to be regularly00:14:15.634 --> 00:14:17.076communicating those values.00:14:17.375 --> 00:14:18.275You don't have to say,00:14:18.296 --> 00:14:20.317I have heirloom value00:14:20.984 --> 00:14:22.326But you need to demonstrate00:14:23.047 --> 00:14:24.908why... Rolex watch.00:14:26.350 --> 00:14:27.591This is a thing.00:14:27.832 --> 00:14:28.173Oh, no.00:14:28.232 --> 00:14:30.275It goes in the safe deposit box.00:14:30.716 --> 00:14:32.498We don't just... This is the good China.00:14:33.038 --> 00:14:33.840That's heirloom.00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:35.121So that's life-changing.00:14:35.442 --> 00:14:36.202Motivation.00:14:37.445 --> 00:14:38.265My Apple watch...00:14:39.533 --> 00:14:40.595dings at me when I haven't00:14:40.615 --> 00:14:41.336stood up in an hour.00:14:41.756 --> 00:14:42.717It tells me when I've got00:14:42.817 --> 00:14:44.080five hours left in my day00:14:44.620 --> 00:14:46.643and I'm X number of movement points,00:14:46.864 --> 00:14:47.344which I don't even know00:14:47.364 --> 00:14:48.927what they are short of my goal.00:14:49.427 --> 00:14:50.448So there's motivation.00:14:51.009 --> 00:14:53.552So this also goes into my,00:14:53.732 --> 00:14:55.215from my talk that I did CSM00:14:55.294 --> 00:14:56.557features versus benefits.00:14:57.990 --> 00:14:59.730A feature is the watch is 3000:14:59.730 --> 00:15:01.030millimeters and the battery00:15:01.091 --> 00:15:03.211has X number of watts and whatever.00:15:03.591 --> 00:15:06.113But the benefit is it provides motivation.00:15:06.893 --> 00:15:08.673It has sensory appeal.00:15:08.813 --> 00:15:09.653It informs me.00:15:10.374 --> 00:15:12.554So my question, the reason I bring this up,00:15:12.615 --> 00:15:13.115and it sounds like I'm00:15:13.154 --> 00:15:14.196going on a random tangent,00:15:14.296 --> 00:15:15.635which is essentially how I talk.00:15:16.735 --> 00:15:18.297But I think by identifying00:15:18.356 --> 00:15:19.437the things that Elise00:15:19.496 --> 00:15:21.798brings to get there are00:15:21.857 --> 00:15:23.119tangible ways of making00:15:23.158 --> 00:15:24.538sure you're providing those things,00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:26.379saying what you want to provide.00:15:27.317 --> 00:15:28.318Because what Elise is trying00:15:28.339 --> 00:15:28.798to say is like,00:15:28.899 --> 00:15:30.779I'm going to be the OncoPT.00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:32.941And you did when you named yourself that,00:15:33.121 --> 00:15:33.881when you decided.00:15:34.662 --> 00:15:35.243Now,00:15:36.043 --> 00:15:37.403we got to work backwards on what00:15:37.464 --> 00:15:38.644values you provide.00:15:38.865 --> 00:15:39.664Make sure that they are.00:15:39.745 --> 00:15:41.145When someone lands on your website,00:15:41.166 --> 00:15:42.866they're like, I got what she's about.00:15:43.248 --> 00:15:43.687I get it.00:15:44.405 --> 00:15:47.187And then what you communicate,00:15:47.246 --> 00:15:49.408what you post and share gets real easy.00:15:49.567 --> 00:15:50.648Or I should say simple.00:15:51.187 --> 00:15:52.688It's like, I need to provide this.00:15:53.229 --> 00:15:55.188So this is an exercise we should do.00:15:55.249 --> 00:15:56.690Probably not on the live00:15:56.710 --> 00:15:57.470stream because it really is00:15:57.529 --> 00:15:58.490dry erase boardy.00:15:59.030 --> 00:16:00.471But I like this value pyramid.00:16:00.530 --> 00:16:01.130I bring this up.00:16:01.191 --> 00:16:02.331It's why it's always handy.00:16:03.812 --> 00:16:04.511When someone tells me00:16:04.552 --> 00:16:05.613something about their product or service,00:16:05.633 --> 00:16:06.732I'm like, I didn't get that vibe.00:16:06.753 --> 00:16:07.533I'm like, oh, of course.00:16:07.592 --> 00:16:08.312Of course that's in there.00:16:08.332 --> 00:16:08.953I go, not of course.00:16:08.974 --> 00:16:09.754Please stop saying of course.00:16:10.514 --> 00:16:11.234If I don't see it,00:16:11.714 --> 00:16:12.475it means a lot of people00:16:12.495 --> 00:16:13.294probably aren't seeing it.00:16:14.035 --> 00:16:15.596Unless I'm, well, if you're in the club,00:16:15.636 --> 00:16:16.977if you subscribe to my newsletter,00:16:17.018 --> 00:16:17.398you get it.00:16:17.518 --> 00:16:17.638Great.00:16:17.658 --> 00:16:18.599I'm going to subscribe right now.00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:20.500If I don't feel it in two newsletters,00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:21.041I'm out.00:16:21.181 --> 00:16:21.760I unsubscribe.00:16:21.780 --> 00:16:22.322I never come back.00:16:23.182 --> 00:16:24.763This is where people are confused.00:16:24.842 --> 00:16:25.322I don't know.00:16:25.604 --> 00:16:27.424I provide so much value.00:16:27.585 --> 00:16:27.804Do you?00:16:28.446 --> 00:16:29.066Which values?00:16:29.385 --> 00:16:30.826Which values do you provide?00:16:30.846 --> 00:16:32.087Because a combination of00:16:32.128 --> 00:16:33.928values added together makes00:16:33.969 --> 00:16:35.110me not think twice about00:16:35.149 --> 00:16:36.671spending a thousand bucks on the iPhone.00:16:36.910 --> 00:16:39.212Not even, I spend a thousand.00:16:39.232 --> 00:16:41.114I feel like I got $5,000 worth of value.00:16:41.234 --> 00:16:42.174Go a day without this.00:16:42.455 --> 00:16:42.735Good luck.00:16:43.602 --> 00:16:44.283Whenever they're trying to00:16:44.322 --> 00:16:45.443sell me a new phone, they always say,00:16:45.464 --> 00:16:46.943how many times do you use this per day?00:16:46.964 --> 00:16:49.225And I'm like, a lot.00:16:49.404 --> 00:16:49.884And they're like,00:16:49.924 --> 00:16:51.125now divide out what you're00:16:51.145 --> 00:16:52.785spending on that by that minute.00:16:52.846 --> 00:16:53.927And you're like, oh,00:16:53.947 --> 00:16:55.206I'm paying pennies for this thing.00:16:55.307 --> 00:16:56.347Yeah, obviously.00:16:58.368 --> 00:16:58.808Well, Elyse,00:16:58.969 --> 00:17:01.048I want to know more about00:17:02.370 --> 00:17:05.351where you're going and what you set up.00:17:05.371 --> 00:17:06.351Tell us about the plan.00:17:06.371 --> 00:17:09.892Because you've now Q1 been accountable,00:17:09.912 --> 00:17:10.192right?00:17:10.292 --> 00:17:11.012So what's next?00:17:12.753 --> 00:17:15.036So what I've been so kind of00:17:15.135 --> 00:17:18.939like where that kicks off is for in Q4,00:17:18.959 --> 00:17:21.601I have the second cancer00:17:21.622 --> 00:17:22.843rehab community conference00:17:22.883 --> 00:17:24.003that I'm hosting that I00:17:24.044 --> 00:17:24.963started last year.00:17:25.565 --> 00:17:26.726And so, you know,00:17:26.746 --> 00:17:28.346this brand awareness that00:17:28.366 --> 00:17:29.887I'm curating now throughout00:17:29.969 --> 00:17:32.069the year is helping get00:17:32.130 --> 00:17:34.231people understanding like, oh,00:17:34.592 --> 00:17:36.894cancer rehab, OncoPT is a thing.00:17:37.414 --> 00:17:38.315Patients need help.00:17:39.175 --> 00:17:41.356oh I can help with that oh00:17:41.698 --> 00:17:42.758here's the place to go00:17:42.817 --> 00:17:43.578where I'm going to learn00:17:43.598 --> 00:17:46.800more on how to do that so00:17:46.881 --> 00:17:51.262that's kind of my big what00:17:51.303 --> 00:17:52.304else is on the action list00:17:52.384 --> 00:17:53.544for you are there things on00:17:53.564 --> 00:17:55.526the action list for you you00:17:55.546 --> 00:17:56.226don't have to say all of00:17:56.266 --> 00:17:57.287them just I mean what's00:17:57.307 --> 00:18:00.127yeah the things yeah so we00:18:00.488 --> 00:18:01.548right now like personally00:18:01.648 --> 00:18:02.348and I'm not going to give00:18:02.368 --> 00:18:03.349numbers because some of00:18:03.369 --> 00:18:04.490this is like a little bit of secret00:18:05.510 --> 00:18:07.392I have X number of sponsors00:18:07.731 --> 00:18:09.053that I'm working on getting00:18:09.373 --> 00:18:10.413this year for the conference.00:18:10.593 --> 00:18:12.473I have X number and I'll say00:18:12.493 --> 00:18:13.054this one out there.00:18:13.335 --> 00:18:14.934I want to get my big, hairy,00:18:15.055 --> 00:18:17.215audacious goal for 2024.00:18:17.215 --> 00:18:18.036And this is also going to00:18:18.076 --> 00:18:19.057help me be accountable to00:18:19.096 --> 00:18:21.958this is I want 250 cancer00:18:21.978 --> 00:18:23.358rehab professionals or00:18:23.398 --> 00:18:24.419rehab professionals.00:18:24.439 --> 00:18:25.240They don't have to be cancer00:18:25.259 --> 00:18:26.059rehab specifically.00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.340I want 250 rehab00:18:28.401 --> 00:18:30.162professionals to register00:18:30.201 --> 00:18:31.123for the Cancer Rehab00:18:31.143 --> 00:18:33.223Community Conference 2024.00:18:33.223 --> 00:18:35.105And there are specific steps00:18:35.625 --> 00:18:37.487and milestones that I am00:18:38.247 --> 00:18:39.147going towards throughout00:18:39.188 --> 00:18:40.188this year to make that happen.00:18:41.648 --> 00:18:42.148I love that.00:18:42.348 --> 00:18:44.931I have a gross question for00:18:44.951 --> 00:18:45.912you that you're going to00:18:45.971 --> 00:18:48.752hate me for asking.00:18:48.873 --> 00:18:50.213I hear all these wonderful00:18:50.233 --> 00:18:50.875things that you're doing00:18:50.894 --> 00:18:51.515for other people.00:18:52.704 --> 00:18:54.125But what on this plan is for00:18:54.145 --> 00:18:55.925yourself to help develop00:18:56.006 --> 00:18:57.386you into a better therapist,00:18:57.406 --> 00:18:58.547to help develop you into00:18:58.586 --> 00:18:59.507the person that you want to00:18:59.527 --> 00:19:00.928be and to help develop you00:19:00.988 --> 00:19:02.769into where you want to be in that five,00:19:02.769 --> 00:19:03.38810 year range,00:19:03.828 --> 00:19:05.730because you are an onco PT.00:19:05.769 --> 00:19:07.190You are the onco PT,00:19:07.250 --> 00:19:08.691but you're also Elise.00:19:09.131 --> 00:19:10.191So I want to know where that00:19:10.330 --> 00:19:11.971flow is on your side,00:19:12.192 --> 00:19:12.971because when we talk about00:19:13.011 --> 00:19:14.093professional development,00:19:14.232 --> 00:19:16.113that also includes your development.00:19:16.634 --> 00:19:18.513So I want to know kind of from that side,00:19:18.693 --> 00:19:20.275what's on that plan for you, friend?00:19:23.648 --> 00:19:24.549It's okay not to know.00:19:25.810 --> 00:19:26.151Yeah.00:19:26.171 --> 00:19:27.172It should be on the plan, though.00:19:27.672 --> 00:19:30.173It should be on the plan.00:19:30.294 --> 00:19:31.474I run into this, too, which is like,00:19:31.494 --> 00:19:33.096you ever hear of the cobbler's son?00:19:33.115 --> 00:19:34.896It's like the shoemaker's00:19:34.936 --> 00:19:36.137son often has no shoes.00:19:36.377 --> 00:19:37.618It's like you're thinking00:19:37.659 --> 00:19:39.119about creating things for everybody else.00:19:39.539 --> 00:19:40.661When Rebecca asks you what's00:19:40.681 --> 00:19:42.082your plan on you, you're like, well,00:19:42.701 --> 00:19:43.123I don't know.00:19:44.243 --> 00:19:45.104And I fall into this trap,00:19:45.124 --> 00:19:46.384which is why it's easy for me to spot.00:19:46.404 --> 00:19:48.826It's the cobbler's son has no shoes.00:19:49.501 --> 00:19:50.722But I think we all do, right?00:19:50.762 --> 00:19:52.103Which is why when I talk to00:19:52.144 --> 00:19:53.564people about making this00:19:53.723 --> 00:19:54.845professional development plan,00:19:54.865 --> 00:19:56.445that it has to include their life too.00:19:56.965 --> 00:19:57.886And it has to include the00:19:57.987 --> 00:19:58.727flow between them.00:19:58.787 --> 00:20:00.127I don't really believe in balance.00:20:00.387 --> 00:20:01.548I believe in flow.00:20:02.509 --> 00:20:04.590And to develop yourself as a professional,00:20:04.631 --> 00:20:06.451you just also have to develop yourself.00:20:06.592 --> 00:20:07.731So that's what I want to00:20:07.912 --> 00:20:08.732challenge you a little bit00:20:08.792 --> 00:20:09.573on with that plan because00:20:09.613 --> 00:20:10.693you're crushing the rest of it.00:20:11.453 --> 00:20:12.115But where's Elise?00:20:13.378 --> 00:20:14.900I think where,00:20:15.740 --> 00:20:17.082so I actually sat down with00:20:17.142 --> 00:20:18.262my husband to do this plan.00:20:18.282 --> 00:20:19.423Like we did it separately00:20:19.443 --> 00:20:21.005and then we came together to do it.00:20:21.526 --> 00:20:22.926And I think where that00:20:23.326 --> 00:20:25.368Elise's is in the together00:20:25.509 --> 00:20:26.609because we were able to00:20:26.650 --> 00:20:27.770kind of like step back and be like,00:20:27.810 --> 00:20:29.152what do we want out of this?00:20:29.653 --> 00:20:30.393And so for us,00:20:30.452 --> 00:20:31.855a lot of it comes down to00:20:32.434 --> 00:20:33.715financial security.00:20:33.796 --> 00:20:35.136Like we want to buy a house.00:20:35.817 --> 00:20:39.300And so that's something that like, again,00:20:39.340 --> 00:20:40.521there's that flow of,00:20:41.027 --> 00:20:42.948What I'm doing here enables00:20:43.248 --> 00:20:45.028us to be able to do that.00:20:45.108 --> 00:20:46.009So that's a little more of00:20:46.049 --> 00:20:47.549like the personal side of things.00:20:48.550 --> 00:20:49.771I also should probably00:20:49.832 --> 00:20:50.432revisit more of the00:20:50.471 --> 00:20:51.392personal things because I'm00:20:51.432 --> 00:20:53.534also very good at not doing that part.00:20:53.874 --> 00:20:54.874Can I show you something00:20:54.973 --> 00:20:55.994that I just learned this00:20:56.055 --> 00:20:57.336morning from a guy who has00:20:57.476 --> 00:20:59.257shown value enough that I00:20:59.356 --> 00:21:00.376subscribe to his newsletter00:21:00.396 --> 00:21:01.278and now I actually read it?00:21:01.298 --> 00:21:02.198Because subscribing to a00:21:02.238 --> 00:21:02.817newsletter is great,00:21:02.837 --> 00:21:03.759but actually reading it00:21:04.473 --> 00:21:07.000So do you guys know a Kagan?00:21:07.521 --> 00:21:09.267He just wrote a book called, um,00:21:10.509 --> 00:21:11.613million dollar weekend.00:21:13.105 --> 00:21:14.106So he's one of these guys on00:21:14.146 --> 00:21:15.227Instagram or Twitter, whatever,00:21:15.347 --> 00:21:16.048it's a business guy.00:21:16.288 --> 00:21:17.729And he wrote a book called00:21:17.769 --> 00:21:18.589Million Dollar Weekend00:21:18.650 --> 00:21:19.670where he can show you how00:21:19.690 --> 00:21:21.030to begin a million dollar00:21:21.230 --> 00:21:22.551business in a weekend, blah, blah, blah.00:21:22.612 --> 00:21:23.373I haven't bought the book yet,00:21:23.452 --> 00:21:24.733but I subscribed to his newsletter.00:21:25.374 --> 00:21:26.835And this was his newsletter this morning.00:21:27.174 --> 00:21:27.736The question was,00:21:27.855 --> 00:21:29.336how do you manage running a00:21:29.376 --> 00:21:30.136successful business,00:21:30.237 --> 00:21:31.238writing a book and having a00:21:31.278 --> 00:21:32.338long distance relationship?00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:33.618Where are your life hacks?00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:34.640And I love his answer.00:21:34.660 --> 00:21:35.980It's like, how do I do it?00:21:36.280 --> 00:21:37.561Short answer, not well.00:21:37.701 --> 00:21:38.742Long answer, it's a challenge.00:21:39.083 --> 00:21:40.304But I liked what he gave a00:21:40.364 --> 00:21:41.724tactic down here at number two.00:21:42.345 --> 00:21:43.545which is what you're what I00:21:44.026 --> 00:21:44.705some of what you're talking00:21:44.726 --> 00:21:46.605about he color codes he has00:21:46.685 --> 00:21:48.386four priorities in his life00:21:49.126 --> 00:21:50.247number one he said then00:21:50.647 --> 00:21:52.748work health personal travel00:21:53.627 --> 00:21:54.749does yours need to be work00:21:54.788 --> 00:21:56.128health personal travel no00:21:56.788 --> 00:21:57.849but it should it should be00:21:58.069 --> 00:21:59.049yours it should matter to00:21:59.109 --> 00:22:00.691you right and he gave each00:22:00.750 --> 00:22:01.611one of those things a color00:22:01.730 --> 00:22:02.871work is blue health is00:22:02.931 --> 00:22:05.412green personal is red yellow is travel00:22:06.347 --> 00:22:08.348And then he's able to00:22:08.410 --> 00:22:10.451quickly look at his schedule.00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:11.991And if he's like, you know,00:22:12.011 --> 00:22:14.834not a whole lot of green on00:22:14.874 --> 00:22:15.914my week this week,00:22:16.115 --> 00:22:17.895maybe I should invest in some green.00:22:18.616 --> 00:22:20.657And this little email has00:22:20.718 --> 00:22:21.759caused me to go back to my00:22:21.818 --> 00:22:23.660Google calendar and change.00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:25.201I used to do it in a different way.00:22:25.622 --> 00:22:27.083I used to do like recording.00:22:27.502 --> 00:22:28.884Everything was red for recording.00:22:28.923 --> 00:22:30.105I knew when I had to be on camera.00:22:30.922 --> 00:22:32.342And now I'm like, oh, gosh,00:22:32.402 --> 00:22:34.522but how can I look at my00:22:34.663 --> 00:22:35.824calendar and do that?00:22:35.923 --> 00:22:37.884So I was hearing what you00:22:37.903 --> 00:22:38.544were talking about,00:22:38.564 --> 00:22:39.585making sure those elements00:22:39.625 --> 00:22:40.285were represented.00:22:40.305 --> 00:22:41.825And I was like, well, how do you know?00:22:42.385 --> 00:22:42.566Well,00:22:42.605 --> 00:22:45.185there's not a lot of green on Noah's 8th,00:22:45.385 --> 00:22:46.8079th, and 10th of March.00:22:47.326 --> 00:22:48.386And he knows that because he00:22:48.426 --> 00:22:49.327took a quick look.00:22:49.428 --> 00:22:50.647I am confused at what he's00:22:50.688 --> 00:22:51.387got gray on there.00:22:51.407 --> 00:22:51.847I'm like, great.00:22:51.907 --> 00:22:52.568Noah's not in there.00:22:52.588 --> 00:22:53.368Yeah.00:22:54.227 --> 00:22:56.888But it was a really good way00:22:56.969 --> 00:22:58.250to organize visual,00:22:58.289 --> 00:23:01.413but to not lose yourself in00:23:01.452 --> 00:23:02.773the minutia of your00:23:02.814 --> 00:23:03.694minute-to-minute life.00:23:04.275 --> 00:23:05.135So I thought this cool00:23:05.195 --> 00:23:05.976life... I don't even know00:23:05.997 --> 00:23:07.017if it's a life hack.00:23:07.538 --> 00:23:09.078I think a life hack is low00:23:10.140 --> 00:23:10.980bottom of the spectrum.00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.741I think what he is highlighting is,00:23:13.402 --> 00:23:14.403what are the four things00:23:14.663 --> 00:23:15.403most important to you?00:23:15.884 --> 00:23:17.486Divide them into categories or five things,00:23:17.526 --> 00:23:17.806whatever.00:23:18.266 --> 00:23:19.027And then make sure that00:23:19.047 --> 00:23:20.087those things are in the mix,00:23:20.627 --> 00:23:21.648like a big old Chipotle00:23:21.689 --> 00:23:22.369burrito each week.00:23:23.009 --> 00:23:24.411I don't see no avocado in that.00:23:24.510 --> 00:23:24.750Great.00:23:24.770 --> 00:23:25.791Throw some avocado in there.00:23:25.832 --> 00:23:26.272That's health.00:23:27.753 --> 00:23:28.134And Jimmy,00:23:28.193 --> 00:23:31.356I like that you said in his week, right?00:23:31.497 --> 00:23:32.637Not in every day,00:23:33.317 --> 00:23:35.900but zooming out over time.00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:36.780And I think that really00:23:36.820 --> 00:23:38.582glens into what Rebecca was00:23:38.602 --> 00:23:40.163saying about this flow, right?00:23:40.544 --> 00:23:41.785Not every day is going to be00:23:41.805 --> 00:23:42.965where you're 100%.00:23:42.965 --> 00:23:44.666I've checked off all the boxes, right?00:23:44.778 --> 00:23:44.938Right.00:23:45.097 --> 00:23:47.078Which also, Rebecca would like this,00:23:47.378 --> 00:23:48.579I read something or heard00:23:48.599 --> 00:23:49.359something in a podcast00:23:49.539 --> 00:23:52.142where I'm guilty of, I do a podcast,00:23:52.201 --> 00:23:53.682I do a live stream at 11,00:23:53.682 --> 00:23:55.222I do a meeting at 12,00:23:55.222 --> 00:23:57.284I do an editing session at 1.00:23:57.284 --> 00:24:00.184And the idea is task switching.00:24:00.685 --> 00:24:01.885So me switching from being00:24:01.925 --> 00:24:02.967on camera to being in a00:24:03.007 --> 00:24:04.548meeting to editing something.00:24:04.827 --> 00:24:05.508Those are three different00:24:05.528 --> 00:24:06.248parts of my brain.00:24:06.488 --> 00:24:07.429I do not know which parts of00:24:07.469 --> 00:24:08.088my brain it works,00:24:08.469 --> 00:24:09.349but there are three different parts.00:24:09.910 --> 00:24:11.090And the person speaking was00:24:11.111 --> 00:24:11.951an expert on sort of00:24:12.010 --> 00:24:13.771productivity or things like this.00:24:13.811 --> 00:24:14.112And he said,00:24:14.132 --> 00:24:16.932you lose 40% of your00:24:16.992 --> 00:24:18.693efficiency when I switch00:24:18.713 --> 00:24:20.454from being on camera to00:24:20.515 --> 00:24:22.015then immediately jumping into a meeting,00:24:22.295 --> 00:24:23.036to then immediately ending00:24:23.056 --> 00:24:24.135the meeting and going to edit.00:24:24.615 --> 00:24:26.257So that's where he had been00:24:26.356 --> 00:24:27.537advocating for structuring00:24:27.897 --> 00:24:28.917days of the week,00:24:29.337 --> 00:24:30.338where Mondays are my00:24:30.398 --> 00:24:32.358organization planning doing stuff days.00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:33.900Tuesdays and Thursdays are00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.020my recording days or being00:24:36.080 --> 00:24:37.020on camera on a microphone,00:24:37.241 --> 00:24:38.241making the stuff that I make.00:24:39.151 --> 00:24:40.412And Wednesdays and Fridays00:24:40.551 --> 00:24:41.451are meeting with people00:24:41.612 --> 00:24:42.573because people used to be like, Jimmy,00:24:42.593 --> 00:24:42.952when are you free?00:24:42.972 --> 00:24:43.713I'm like, whatever, man,00:24:43.733 --> 00:24:44.334I'm accommodating.00:24:44.354 --> 00:24:44.913When are you free?00:24:45.394 --> 00:24:47.194And that would screw my day up.00:24:47.414 --> 00:24:48.076But I was,00:24:48.615 --> 00:24:50.017they weren't begging me to meet00:24:50.076 --> 00:24:50.676on Tuesdays.00:24:50.836 --> 00:24:52.018I was just saying, eh, whatever.00:24:52.057 --> 00:24:52.637Here's my calendar.00:24:52.657 --> 00:24:53.259I'm a blank.00:24:53.358 --> 00:24:54.239I'm a wide open canvas.00:24:54.699 --> 00:24:55.420That screwed me up.00:24:55.740 --> 00:24:56.720I changed this in the last00:24:56.779 --> 00:24:57.681two weeks and I like it.00:24:58.595 --> 00:24:59.895I've been thinking about that too,00:25:00.276 --> 00:25:02.156because I think you're right.00:25:02.196 --> 00:25:03.097Like today it's like,00:25:03.178 --> 00:25:04.298I have like all of these00:25:04.337 --> 00:25:05.419like weird little things00:25:05.459 --> 00:25:06.278and then trying to fit00:25:06.318 --> 00:25:07.539stuff in between them also00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:08.921doesn't work very well either.00:25:09.080 --> 00:25:11.422And then, but then like, you know,00:25:11.541 --> 00:25:12.782I came back from Boston a00:25:12.823 --> 00:25:15.364second time on the weekend00:25:15.805 --> 00:25:17.586and the three sick kids.00:25:18.046 --> 00:25:18.266Right.00:25:18.365 --> 00:25:18.945So like,00:25:19.747 --> 00:25:21.428just like everything I had planned,00:25:21.448 --> 00:25:22.488the routine I had planned00:25:22.528 --> 00:25:23.628and all the greatness I was00:25:23.648 --> 00:25:24.769going to create this week, like,00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:26.519flow, right?00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:27.599You just have to flow in the00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:28.320other direction.00:25:28.840 --> 00:25:30.401So I think that being00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.121flexible and when I make00:25:32.161 --> 00:25:33.342that professional development plan,00:25:33.362 --> 00:25:34.082when I think about like,00:25:34.122 --> 00:25:35.261where do I want to be at00:25:35.301 --> 00:25:35.922the end of the year?00:25:36.301 --> 00:25:36.422Like,00:25:36.442 --> 00:25:37.781where do I want to be in my00:25:37.821 --> 00:25:38.423relationships?00:25:38.462 --> 00:25:39.803Where do I want to be in my parenting?00:25:40.163 --> 00:25:41.123What do I want to develop?00:25:41.143 --> 00:25:41.282Like,00:25:41.343 --> 00:25:42.784do I want to be better at my00:25:42.824 --> 00:25:43.644presentations?00:25:43.743 --> 00:25:44.943Do I want to be better at00:25:45.003 --> 00:25:45.824connecting with people?00:25:45.923 --> 00:25:47.403Do I want to like, for me,00:25:47.483 --> 00:25:48.525I think I need to really00:25:48.565 --> 00:25:49.444focus on getting better at00:25:49.505 --> 00:25:51.964negotiating because I think00:25:52.005 --> 00:25:53.806I wildly undervalue.00:25:53.826 --> 00:25:53.965I agree.00:25:55.450 --> 00:25:57.750my worth and so like I had a00:25:57.809 --> 00:25:58.711conversation with somebody00:25:58.750 --> 00:25:59.671yesterday and he was like00:25:59.851 --> 00:26:00.711what would it cost for you00:26:00.730 --> 00:26:02.211to do a class just for our00:26:02.631 --> 00:26:04.731staff and it's like a two00:26:04.751 --> 00:26:06.811hour thing I was like oh I00:26:06.852 --> 00:26:09.672don't know like 300 and he00:26:09.711 --> 00:26:10.792was like um I'm gonna00:26:10.813 --> 00:26:11.752pretend like you didn't say00:26:11.792 --> 00:26:13.252that and I'm gonna tell you00:26:13.292 --> 00:26:14.232this is what I'm gonna tell00:26:14.252 --> 00:26:16.733my boss and I was like okay00:26:17.193 --> 00:26:19.094you know so I i have a lot00:26:19.134 --> 00:26:19.973of self-confidence in00:26:20.054 --> 00:26:21.493certain areas but in others00:26:21.534 --> 00:26:22.875like none at all so when I00:26:22.974 --> 00:26:24.275when I talk about that like00:26:26.150 --> 00:26:27.309Where else do you need to00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:28.431work on yourself?00:26:28.490 --> 00:26:29.790Where are your gifts?00:26:29.830 --> 00:26:30.991How can we maximize those?00:26:31.031 --> 00:26:31.711And then where are those00:26:31.731 --> 00:26:32.832like growth areas where you00:26:32.852 --> 00:26:33.652have to like look at00:26:33.692 --> 00:26:35.673yourself in a gross way,00:26:36.113 --> 00:26:36.913in an authentic way and00:26:36.952 --> 00:26:37.874like strip it down and then00:26:37.913 --> 00:26:38.794figure out how do you get00:26:38.814 --> 00:26:39.913the support for those areas00:26:39.933 --> 00:26:40.355that you need?00:26:40.894 --> 00:26:41.755So what are the areas?00:26:41.795 --> 00:26:42.555I guess you got to start00:26:42.575 --> 00:26:45.155with your your NOAA colors, right?00:26:45.175 --> 00:26:46.896So work, health, personal travel.00:26:48.590 --> 00:26:50.372For me, it would be like work, health,00:26:50.471 --> 00:26:51.172personal.00:26:53.653 --> 00:26:54.633I don't know what my fourth would be.00:26:54.653 --> 00:26:56.492I mean, maybe you don't need four.00:26:56.794 --> 00:26:58.314But I think that's step one00:26:58.594 --> 00:26:59.814in the exercise is figuring00:26:59.874 --> 00:27:01.355out what are the different00:27:01.434 --> 00:27:02.515ingredients to your life.00:27:02.634 --> 00:27:04.375And they absolutely can and00:27:04.395 --> 00:27:05.036should be different.00:27:06.023 --> 00:27:06.884I think doing a SWOT00:27:06.944 --> 00:27:08.086analysis on your life and00:27:08.106 --> 00:27:09.689your business is a good place to start.00:27:10.490 --> 00:27:11.810Like how can you really like00:27:11.851 --> 00:27:14.674figure out where your weaknesses are?00:27:14.734 --> 00:27:15.655How can you figure out where00:27:15.695 --> 00:27:16.576your opportunities are,00:27:16.616 --> 00:27:17.377where your threats are,00:27:17.438 --> 00:27:18.358what your strengths are?00:27:18.378 --> 00:27:20.883And then like for me in my daily planner,00:27:20.962 --> 00:27:21.963I have a list of daily00:27:22.003 --> 00:27:23.326habits that I would like to complete.00:27:24.682 --> 00:27:25.643That helped me stay balanced.00:27:25.663 --> 00:27:28.204So some of that is like reading every day,00:27:28.585 --> 00:27:29.486listening to something00:27:29.546 --> 00:27:30.467intentionally every day,00:27:30.527 --> 00:27:31.507like what those things are.00:27:31.586 --> 00:27:32.488And those things help me00:27:32.548 --> 00:27:33.969with those like color balances,00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:35.569like movements, part of my every day,00:27:35.650 --> 00:27:37.112connecting with people every day.00:27:37.592 --> 00:27:38.472So I try to have that.00:27:38.573 --> 00:27:39.093Is it perfect?00:27:39.192 --> 00:27:40.713No, but it's like something to,00:27:40.954 --> 00:27:41.654it's visual.00:27:41.775 --> 00:27:42.435I can see it.00:27:42.976 --> 00:27:43.836How do you do it when you00:27:44.017 --> 00:27:45.417have a brain like me though?00:27:45.737 --> 00:27:47.920I don't know if I'm officially ADD or ADHD,00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:49.942but if I'm not, I'm right on that cusp.00:27:50.162 --> 00:27:50.702I'm nuts.00:27:52.344 --> 00:27:53.425I say I'm nuts and people are like,00:27:53.445 --> 00:27:54.086you're not that nuts.00:27:54.467 --> 00:27:55.887But I feel like I sort of am.00:27:56.429 --> 00:27:58.431I really do chase the shiny object.00:27:58.570 --> 00:27:59.673I have a billion ideas,00:27:59.712 --> 00:28:01.815but ideas don't do anything00:28:02.035 --> 00:28:02.816unless you execute.00:28:03.175 --> 00:28:05.499So I lose on this.00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:07.181But I don't think I'm alone here.00:28:07.833 --> 00:28:09.994But when you fill out your SWOT analysis,00:28:10.055 --> 00:28:11.715right, you're like strengths, ideas,00:28:11.855 --> 00:28:14.938plans, you know, like goals, connections.00:28:15.337 --> 00:28:16.179And then your weaknesses00:28:16.239 --> 00:28:17.779might be I can't complete the task.00:28:17.900 --> 00:28:19.201So what do you then have to do?00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:20.862Your opportunities are for partnership.00:28:22.604 --> 00:28:23.364And then you have to find00:28:23.384 --> 00:28:24.285somebody to partner with.00:28:24.424 --> 00:28:25.566And you and I briefly talked00:28:25.605 --> 00:28:26.766about this yesterday that00:28:26.826 --> 00:28:27.727somebody called me a00:28:27.767 --> 00:28:28.948certain personality color.00:28:29.188 --> 00:28:29.749Have you heard of this?00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:30.128Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.00:28:30.148 --> 00:28:31.109And I am an orange person.00:28:35.406 --> 00:28:37.248And some people that we are meeting with,00:28:37.448 --> 00:28:39.189the person who's running00:28:39.229 --> 00:28:41.891this project is a gold and00:28:41.990 --> 00:28:43.510orange and gold people00:28:43.711 --> 00:28:44.771don't necessarily mix00:28:44.811 --> 00:28:46.093because gold people are00:28:46.133 --> 00:28:47.473theoretically very structured.00:28:47.493 --> 00:28:49.595They really want things done00:28:49.615 --> 00:28:50.434a specific way.00:28:50.474 --> 00:28:52.455Whereas orange people are like, let's go,00:28:52.496 --> 00:28:53.356let's just do it.00:28:53.436 --> 00:28:54.596Well, you know, we'll get it done.00:28:54.656 --> 00:28:55.538I swear, you know?00:28:56.038 --> 00:28:57.358And so I think that's kind00:28:57.398 --> 00:28:58.259of when you have to take a00:28:58.278 --> 00:28:59.240step back and look at where00:28:59.299 --> 00:29:00.220are your opportunities for00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:01.340partnership that will help00:29:01.381 --> 00:29:02.362you reach that next level?00:29:02.402 --> 00:29:02.961Because Jimmy,00:29:03.021 --> 00:29:03.721I don't think there's any00:29:03.761 --> 00:29:04.923point trying to change yourself.00:29:05.632 --> 00:29:08.834No, it's not going to work anyway.00:29:08.854 --> 00:29:08.894No.00:29:10.275 --> 00:29:11.036I was at a job.00:29:11.056 --> 00:29:12.477I won't say where.00:29:14.238 --> 00:29:15.898But the job was like, hey,00:29:15.919 --> 00:29:17.961we hired you to be a communicator.00:29:18.101 --> 00:29:20.142We hired you to do Jimmy things, right?00:29:20.623 --> 00:29:22.263And then I was sort of like, well,00:29:22.304 --> 00:29:23.044how come you're not better00:29:23.064 --> 00:29:23.865at spreadsheets?00:29:24.204 --> 00:29:25.165And I was like, oh,00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:27.748I'm not good at spreadsheets.00:29:28.067 --> 00:29:28.167Well,00:29:28.188 --> 00:29:29.548we need you to invest time and effort00:29:29.788 --> 00:29:31.150into being good at spreadsheets.00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:32.310And I was like, okay.00:29:33.291 --> 00:29:34.412And then I countered and I was like,00:29:34.471 --> 00:29:34.692hey...00:29:35.452 --> 00:29:36.973I'm going to spend this much effort,00:29:37.074 --> 00:29:39.194a lot of effort to be this00:29:39.895 --> 00:29:41.096much better at spreadsheets.00:29:41.616 --> 00:29:42.458And then I countered with,00:29:42.938 --> 00:29:43.798we have people who are good00:29:43.817 --> 00:29:45.118at spreadsheets at this organization,00:29:45.199 --> 00:29:45.398right?00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:46.160And they were like, yes.00:29:46.299 --> 00:29:46.519I'm like,00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:48.141are we asking them to be better00:29:48.181 --> 00:29:48.682communicators?00:29:48.862 --> 00:29:49.642And the answer was no.00:29:50.001 --> 00:29:50.383And I was like,00:29:50.762 --> 00:29:52.403then one makes sense to you,00:29:52.443 --> 00:29:53.265but the other doesn't?00:29:54.125 --> 00:29:54.605So I was like,00:29:54.744 --> 00:29:55.825I don't want to be better at00:29:55.845 --> 00:29:56.346spreadsheets.00:29:56.486 --> 00:29:57.826I want to triple down on00:29:57.865 --> 00:29:58.925what I'm good at and what00:29:58.945 --> 00:30:00.067you brought me here for.00:30:00.287 --> 00:30:00.467Well,00:30:00.487 --> 00:30:02.106we want you to be a well-rounded00:30:02.146 --> 00:30:02.666individual.00:30:02.707 --> 00:30:03.106And I was like,00:30:03.227 --> 00:30:04.548I don't want to be a well-run.00:30:04.667 --> 00:30:05.907I want to be super freaking.00:30:06.327 --> 00:30:06.948This is where it's like,00:30:06.968 --> 00:30:07.648do you want to be a really00:30:07.689 --> 00:30:09.028great surgeon at feet and00:30:09.068 --> 00:30:11.088knees and hips and hearts and brains?00:30:11.148 --> 00:30:12.230It's like, I don't know, man,00:30:12.329 --> 00:30:13.269I'm going in for brain surgery.00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:14.710I don't care how good you are at feet.00:30:14.990 --> 00:30:15.611I really don't.00:30:16.270 --> 00:30:16.431Yeah.00:30:16.490 --> 00:30:16.750Great.00:30:18.290 --> 00:30:20.152So I want to talk about these colors.00:30:20.852 --> 00:30:20.991Yeah.00:30:23.268 --> 00:30:24.868It's like horoscopes for professionals.00:30:25.269 --> 00:30:28.711That's the best descriptor.00:30:28.730 --> 00:30:30.271I think in grad school,00:30:30.771 --> 00:30:31.873this is like a really great00:30:32.093 --> 00:30:33.012icebreaker activity.00:30:33.053 --> 00:30:35.134I know we did this in PT school.00:30:35.595 --> 00:30:36.535I was in INFJ.00:30:37.035 --> 00:30:37.296Yeah.00:30:37.435 --> 00:30:37.996I don't know what that,00:30:38.076 --> 00:30:39.196I remember I took that a while ago,00:30:39.237 --> 00:30:40.396but this on the screen is00:30:40.416 --> 00:30:41.278the personality colors.00:30:41.397 --> 00:30:41.557Now,00:30:42.057 --> 00:30:44.118most PTs fell into what color in your00:30:44.159 --> 00:30:44.419class?00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:46.381Gold.00:30:47.060 --> 00:30:47.520No.00:30:48.382 --> 00:30:49.501No, in my class.00:30:49.922 --> 00:30:50.363Really?00:30:50.803 --> 00:30:51.042Yes.00:30:51.202 --> 00:30:52.483In my class, it was gold.00:30:53.479 --> 00:30:55.059blue is because compassion00:30:55.099 --> 00:30:55.800sympathy because you00:30:55.861 --> 00:30:56.781answered a questionnaire00:30:56.801 --> 00:30:57.561and then the basis of the00:30:57.582 --> 00:30:59.263questionnaire so most pts00:30:59.324 --> 00:31:00.505were compassionate00:31:00.704 --> 00:31:02.266sympathetic and wanted to00:31:02.286 --> 00:31:04.347build rapport there were00:31:04.407 --> 00:31:05.648some golden greens but it00:31:05.689 --> 00:31:07.230did when you learned what00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.230someone's color was and00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:09.112then you hung out with them00:31:09.132 --> 00:31:09.872you're like oh get it00:31:09.913 --> 00:31:10.653because I had a roommate00:31:10.673 --> 00:31:12.775who was whatever that like00:31:12.855 --> 00:31:14.375out of 40 everybody was a00:31:14.415 --> 00:31:15.517blue and then you had like00:31:15.557 --> 00:31:16.438a secondary one00:31:16.823 --> 00:31:17.303That's funny.00:31:17.403 --> 00:31:18.503But there were only like two00:31:18.564 --> 00:31:20.066or three golds or greens in00:31:20.105 --> 00:31:22.166our entire 40-person class, Rebecca.00:31:22.207 --> 00:31:23.808And you were told you were –00:31:23.808 --> 00:31:24.548which are you?00:31:26.830 --> 00:31:27.632Elise, which one are you?00:31:28.372 --> 00:31:30.094I'm a blue secondary gold.00:31:30.894 --> 00:31:34.076But I also think I – I think00:31:34.336 --> 00:31:37.839over time I flow between.00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.501And so like I gravitate towards blue,00:31:40.582 --> 00:31:41.798but –00:31:41.798 --> 00:31:42.818Sometimes I wonder.00:31:42.838 --> 00:31:44.240You were told you were an orange.00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:44.900Orange.00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:46.320Like a flaming orange.00:31:46.820 --> 00:31:48.461Like a Cheeto orange.00:31:48.481 --> 00:31:49.863Which one do you think I am?00:31:50.426 --> 00:31:51.267I think you're an orange.00:31:51.688 --> 00:31:52.688Yeah, I was orange all day.00:31:53.428 --> 00:31:53.607Yes.00:31:53.989 --> 00:31:55.429So let's go through these real quick.00:31:55.628 --> 00:31:56.710And we didn't plan on doing this,00:31:56.750 --> 00:31:57.390but we'll go through it.00:31:57.430 --> 00:31:59.171So each characteristic or00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:02.632color has a strength, a value, a dislike,00:32:03.231 --> 00:32:04.593and then how it's expressed.00:32:05.173 --> 00:32:05.833So blue,00:32:06.013 --> 00:32:07.574where most of my classmates anyway,00:32:07.614 --> 00:32:08.914or I think most PTs are blue.00:32:08.934 --> 00:32:09.654And I think our professor00:32:09.694 --> 00:32:10.394even told us that.00:32:10.976 --> 00:32:11.675You're all going to be blue.00:32:12.215 --> 00:32:14.836The strength is authenticity listed as.00:32:14.997 --> 00:32:16.018And that comes out as a00:32:16.057 --> 00:32:17.557value of compassion, sympathy,00:32:17.698 --> 00:32:18.479and building rapport.00:32:19.192 --> 00:32:21.173Blues dislike hypocrisy, deception,00:32:21.193 --> 00:32:22.015and insincerity.00:32:22.395 --> 00:32:25.940And it's expressed with vivacity,00:32:26.019 --> 00:32:28.762like vibrant, I guess, vivacity.00:32:28.782 --> 00:32:29.703I've never heard that word before.00:32:30.085 --> 00:32:31.445Enthusiasm and inspiration.00:32:32.667 --> 00:32:32.928Elise,00:32:32.948 --> 00:32:34.730you said you're a gold or a park gold.00:32:35.230 --> 00:32:36.791A blue secondary gold.00:32:37.113 --> 00:32:37.993Your strength is duty.00:32:38.757 --> 00:32:40.037Your values are dependability,00:32:40.076 --> 00:32:41.157accountability, responsibility.00:32:41.178 --> 00:32:41.698That's why you're probably00:32:41.718 --> 00:32:42.357good at writing things down00:32:42.397 --> 00:32:43.558and actually doing them where I'm not.00:32:44.058 --> 00:32:45.179You dislike disobedience.00:32:45.298 --> 00:32:46.880You dislike nonconformity.00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:47.799So this is where gold and00:32:47.859 --> 00:32:48.799oranges would be like,00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:50.060we do not work well.00:32:50.441 --> 00:32:51.901Because oranges are like, let's go.00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:53.521The way to get attention or00:32:53.561 --> 00:32:55.182the way to get people to00:32:56.242 --> 00:32:58.663build relationships is to00:32:58.903 --> 00:33:00.243actually do the nonconform thing.00:33:00.324 --> 00:33:01.743And then you dislike insubordination.00:33:02.064 --> 00:33:04.904And you express that in concern, stability,00:33:04.924 --> 00:33:05.305and purpose.00:33:05.325 --> 00:33:07.286Does that sound accurate to you?00:33:10.219 --> 00:33:11.118And then green,00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:15.320green were like the smart planner people.00:33:16.261 --> 00:33:17.961And their strength is knowledge.00:33:18.563 --> 00:33:20.163Their values are answers, intelligence,00:33:20.222 --> 00:33:20.824explanations.00:33:21.284 --> 00:33:23.285They dislike injustice and unfairness.00:33:23.605 --> 00:33:24.865And they express it cool and calm.00:33:24.884 --> 00:33:25.645This is the weird,00:33:25.726 --> 00:33:27.606creepy people with no heart rate raise.00:33:29.867 --> 00:33:30.347Not creepy,00:33:30.367 --> 00:33:31.448but it's weird for me because00:33:31.488 --> 00:33:32.288my heart rate jumps00:33:32.328 --> 00:33:33.348whenever I hear an idea.00:33:33.949 --> 00:33:34.210Right?00:33:34.390 --> 00:33:35.230Why are you laughing at that?00:33:35.250 --> 00:33:36.691Am I describing someone?00:33:38.391 --> 00:33:39.392It just makes me laugh.00:33:40.239 --> 00:33:40.960And then orange,00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:41.720this is an orange00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:42.861describing all these people though.00:33:42.881 --> 00:33:43.721So you have to understand00:33:43.761 --> 00:33:44.321where it comes from.00:33:45.083 --> 00:33:46.923Orange's strength is skillfulness.00:33:47.023 --> 00:33:47.825I don't understand that.00:33:48.365 --> 00:33:48.605Well,00:33:48.705 --> 00:33:50.446so one of the things that this other00:33:50.467 --> 00:33:51.508thing says is oranges00:33:51.567 --> 00:33:52.387tackle their work with00:33:52.449 --> 00:33:53.429enthusiasm so they can00:33:53.449 --> 00:33:54.789quickly move on to other things.00:33:54.849 --> 00:33:56.290So you and I are very much like that.00:33:56.872 --> 00:33:59.054They're great at working under pressure.00:34:00.424 --> 00:34:01.786So that's why we're last00:34:01.826 --> 00:34:02.726minute kind of people.00:34:02.787 --> 00:34:04.607I do my best work 15 minutes before.00:34:05.028 --> 00:34:06.169They grow restless with00:34:06.209 --> 00:34:07.048things that tie them down00:34:07.088 --> 00:34:08.250and limit their personal freedom,00:34:08.349 --> 00:34:09.731but they're straightforward, realistic,00:34:09.831 --> 00:34:11.291and practical workers.00:34:12.351 --> 00:34:16.054It also says that they can00:34:16.235 --> 00:34:18.155be a little blunt.00:34:18.735 --> 00:34:21.038We dislike rigidity and authority.00:34:22.097 --> 00:34:23.498So I'm going to push back at00:34:23.539 --> 00:34:27.320this a little bit is that I00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:29.443actually like the box.00:34:30.557 --> 00:34:31.277people are always saying,00:34:31.338 --> 00:34:32.237think outside the box.00:34:32.657 --> 00:34:33.719And I watched a former00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:35.239person that I interned for,00:34:35.259 --> 00:34:36.438or I interned at a radio station,00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:37.998and Howard Stern was the morning guy.00:34:38.358 --> 00:34:40.139When he jumped from terrestrial radio,00:34:40.219 --> 00:34:40.920where there were a lot of00:34:40.980 --> 00:34:41.840rules and things you can00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:43.721and cannot say on the radio,00:34:43.740 --> 00:34:44.440unless you get fined,00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:46.920and he went to Sirius XM radio,00:34:47.501 --> 00:34:48.601there was no more box.00:34:49.362 --> 00:34:50.342And in my opinion,00:34:50.722 --> 00:34:52.621Howard Stern wasn't as great.00:34:52.842 --> 00:34:53.981He could do anything he wanted.00:34:54.262 --> 00:34:55.722There was no villain in the story.00:34:56.182 --> 00:34:56.422Hmm.00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.842So this chart says orange,00:34:59.083 --> 00:35:00.465people like me or Rebecca,00:35:00.644 --> 00:35:02.507we dislike rigidity and authority.00:35:02.807 --> 00:35:05.411I actually kind of like00:35:05.851 --> 00:35:07.474authority because I like00:35:07.494 --> 00:35:08.715when authority is my wingman.00:35:09.911 --> 00:35:12.092Because I understand how far I can go.00:35:12.452 --> 00:35:14.132The authority in usually my life,00:35:14.273 --> 00:35:16.074like my best friend from second grade,00:35:16.474 --> 00:35:17.673he's like the straight guy00:35:17.873 --> 00:35:18.954and I'm the wild one.00:35:19.474 --> 00:35:20.655But he always lets me know00:35:20.675 --> 00:35:21.614when I've gone too far.00:35:21.835 --> 00:35:22.695So he's authority.00:35:22.996 --> 00:35:24.056The problem where I think it00:35:24.096 --> 00:35:25.615says that oranges dislike00:35:25.675 --> 00:35:26.817rigidity and authority is00:35:27.056 --> 00:35:29.516when it's a creative campaign.00:35:30.318 --> 00:35:31.697The golds can't be in charge.00:35:31.898 --> 00:35:33.077You can keep me on task,00:35:34.059 --> 00:35:35.259but I'm very sorry.00:35:36.143 --> 00:35:37.784Golds and greens should not00:35:37.824 --> 00:35:38.585be running the world.00:35:38.885 --> 00:35:39.666And that's where I think a00:35:39.706 --> 00:35:41.088lot of companies, they're like,00:35:41.108 --> 00:35:42.168we're going to follow the CEO.00:35:42.188 --> 00:35:43.208I think a lot of CEOs are00:35:43.248 --> 00:35:44.050golds and greens.00:35:44.489 --> 00:35:45.510And people might push back, well,00:35:45.550 --> 00:35:46.831how many CEOs are orange?00:35:47.351 --> 00:35:48.112Maybe not a lot,00:35:48.132 --> 00:35:49.193but I think oranges might00:35:49.213 --> 00:35:50.034not need to be the CEO,00:35:50.054 --> 00:35:50.753but they need to be a loud00:35:50.793 --> 00:35:51.375voice in the room.00:35:53.195 --> 00:35:55.858Like Richard Branson or Mark Cuban.00:35:55.958 --> 00:35:57.958They are oranges.00:35:58.519 --> 00:35:59.880We all have a little bit of blue,00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:00.420a little bit of gold,00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:00.960a little bit of green.00:36:00.981 --> 00:36:01.561But predominantly...00:36:03.643 --> 00:36:05.246And I think the quickest way00:36:05.266 --> 00:36:07.708to failure is when oranges00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:09.210aren't at the helm or at00:36:09.751 --> 00:36:11.873least deciding where the things go.00:36:11.893 --> 00:36:14.918I think there's like you00:36:14.938 --> 00:36:15.559want to put different00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:16.619people in different roles.00:36:16.699 --> 00:36:17.400Right.00:36:18.422 --> 00:36:20.505And I think if to your point.00:36:21.791 --> 00:36:22.472If you're looking for00:36:22.532 --> 00:36:24.213somebody who's going to00:36:24.492 --> 00:36:25.632come up with that great idea,00:36:25.753 --> 00:36:26.713inspire people,00:36:26.873 --> 00:36:28.373move people in a certain direction,00:36:28.474 --> 00:36:30.255maybe an orange is the person to do that.00:36:30.735 --> 00:36:32.835But then you need some of00:36:32.876 --> 00:36:34.135your blues to help seal the00:36:34.175 --> 00:36:35.436deal with their compassion00:36:35.456 --> 00:36:36.956and their rapport with other people.00:36:37.157 --> 00:36:39.378You need them to help inspire others also.00:36:39.398 --> 00:36:40.798But then you need your golds00:36:40.838 --> 00:36:42.179and your greens to help get it done.00:36:42.418 --> 00:36:43.920Because I'm going to be like,00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.280here's this fabulous idea.00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:47.021And then I have a green00:36:47.081 --> 00:36:48.501partner who's going to be like, yeah.00:36:49.681 --> 00:36:50.802except that's not gonna work00:36:50.882 --> 00:36:51.802and here's why I'm like00:36:51.882 --> 00:36:52.922great we'll do something00:36:53.023 --> 00:36:54.503else you know and so like I00:36:54.543 --> 00:36:56.063think oranges can roll00:36:56.143 --> 00:36:59.423pretty well yep if we know00:36:59.483 --> 00:37:02.344why yeah what I I'll I'll00:37:02.385 --> 00:37:03.525bring up an example when00:37:03.605 --> 00:37:05.166when golds and greens are00:37:05.226 --> 00:37:07.286in charge of an orange00:37:07.405 --> 00:37:08.626project because again there00:37:08.646 --> 00:37:09.387are some projects that I00:37:09.407 --> 00:37:10.467should not be anywhere near00:37:10.606 --> 00:37:11.567right but I work in00:37:11.586 --> 00:37:12.407projects that are orange00:37:12.447 --> 00:37:13.847projects jimmy projects jimmy things00:37:14.938 --> 00:37:16.380I call it a Frankenstein.00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:18.460And the idea is someone will00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:20.221give me a task or a goal to hit.00:37:20.561 --> 00:37:22.001We need to communicate X, Y,00:37:22.021 --> 00:37:23.501Z to these people because of this,00:37:23.521 --> 00:37:25.422and we need them to do or know this.00:37:25.862 --> 00:37:26.322Got it.00:37:26.643 --> 00:37:27.204I go away.00:37:27.403 --> 00:37:28.603I come back with a really00:37:28.623 --> 00:37:30.164great idea or a couple different ideas.00:37:30.565 --> 00:37:31.425And what happens is the00:37:31.465 --> 00:37:33.166golds and greens are like, yeah,00:37:33.246 --> 00:37:34.365do exactly what you just said, Rebecca.00:37:34.485 --> 00:37:35.367Yeah,00:37:35.646 --> 00:37:37.327but we got to play it safe on this00:37:37.367 --> 00:37:37.887and this and this.00:37:38.367 --> 00:37:40.148And what happens is a Frankenstein.00:37:40.469 --> 00:37:41.449And what I mean by that is00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:43.469they change a little bit of the arms.00:37:45.016 --> 00:37:45.195Jimmy,00:37:45.215 --> 00:37:46.338you have to be flexible just a00:37:46.398 --> 00:37:46.818little bit.00:37:47.380 --> 00:37:49.021And then so much about the head.00:37:49.061 --> 00:37:50.364We got to change a little00:37:50.384 --> 00:37:51.045more about the head.00:37:51.244 --> 00:37:51.846And then the feet,00:37:51.865 --> 00:37:52.788a little bit about the feet,00:37:52.807 --> 00:37:53.748a little bit about the knees.00:37:54.289 --> 00:37:55.030And next thing you know,00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:55.952by the time you're done,00:37:56.373 --> 00:37:57.574those little itty bitty changes,00:37:57.715 --> 00:37:58.576it's not a little bit of a00:37:58.615 --> 00:37:59.438less of a good idea.00:38:00.528 --> 00:38:01.889It's a bad idea.00:38:03.032 --> 00:38:03.251Listen,00:38:03.271 --> 00:38:04.713if I order a vodka soda and you00:38:04.733 --> 00:38:06.215throw a little bit of water in it,00:38:06.375 --> 00:38:07.416it is not a little bit less00:38:07.436 --> 00:38:08.297of a good vodka soda.00:38:08.356 --> 00:38:09.338It is a crappy drink.00:38:09.597 --> 00:38:10.458It immediately becomes,00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:12.481I don't know where that is, an ounce,00:38:12.541 --> 00:38:14.003a half an ounce, a quarter of an ounce.00:38:14.182 --> 00:38:15.244It becomes a crappy drink.00:38:15.824 --> 00:38:17.246Ideas are no different.00:38:18.336 --> 00:38:21.880So I don't have the exact formula.00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.461If I did, I'd be a very rich person.00:38:24.001 --> 00:38:26.563But in orange-like projects,00:38:26.704 --> 00:38:28.106if an orange person isn't00:38:28.126 --> 00:38:29.987at least driving the bus,00:38:30.126 --> 00:38:33.110I'm not saying charting the course,00:38:33.230 --> 00:38:33.429right?00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:35.012But they have to be... This00:38:35.052 --> 00:38:37.112is where I see a lot of things fail.00:38:37.193 --> 00:38:37.853As I get brought into00:38:37.893 --> 00:38:39.715projects by golds and greens,00:38:40.496 --> 00:38:41.896we want you here because you're creative.00:38:42.018 --> 00:38:43.179I tell them this is the way.00:38:43.898 --> 00:38:44.679If it goes this way,00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:45.840you have to do all these things though.00:38:46.931 --> 00:38:47.891And then they change a little bit,00:38:47.911 --> 00:38:49.132a little bit, and it doesn't work.00:38:49.172 --> 00:38:51.032And they go, communications doesn't work.00:38:51.172 --> 00:38:51.693I go, no,00:38:51.733 --> 00:38:52.932crappy communications doesn't work.00:38:53.592 --> 00:38:54.474You failed to do these three00:38:54.494 --> 00:38:55.494things that I told you to do.00:38:56.094 --> 00:38:58.094And that's why it didn't work.00:38:58.755 --> 00:39:00.235But I have distanced myself00:39:00.275 --> 00:39:01.275from that a little bit where I say,00:39:01.315 --> 00:39:02.054I make suggestions,00:39:02.094 --> 00:39:02.914but you make decisions.00:39:03.556 --> 00:39:04.476I told you to do it this way00:39:04.516 --> 00:39:05.235and we'd have success.00:39:05.576 --> 00:39:06.516You decided to change it.00:39:06.795 --> 00:39:07.215That's on you.00:39:08.637 --> 00:39:09.456But because we did that,00:39:09.577 --> 00:39:11.317it now doesn't work because00:39:11.336 --> 00:39:11.916it's a different thing.00:39:11.956 --> 00:39:12.617It's a Frankenstein.00:39:12.637 --> 00:39:13.297It walks like a man.00:39:13.358 --> 00:39:14.038It talks like a man.00:39:14.097 --> 00:39:14.697It's not a man, though.00:39:14.797 --> 00:39:15.237It's a monster.00:39:16.340 --> 00:39:17.320That's creativity by00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:18.942committee scares the crap out of me.00:39:22.925 --> 00:39:24.326I think this is interesting.00:39:24.545 --> 00:39:25.565So in PT school,00:39:25.726 --> 00:39:28.047we had a conversation at one point.00:39:28.088 --> 00:39:28.789It was like one of those00:39:28.829 --> 00:39:30.090kind of one-off classes00:39:30.550 --> 00:39:32.471where I think they literally asked us,00:39:32.510 --> 00:39:33.952do you want to be a manager00:39:34.072 --> 00:39:35.172or do you want to be a leader?00:39:35.213 --> 00:39:39.715Oh, and you, an organization.00:39:39.735 --> 00:39:40.916That's a good point.00:39:41.918 --> 00:39:42.699Needs both.00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:42.759Um,00:39:43.735 --> 00:39:46.175but not every person is00:39:46.777 --> 00:39:48.438equipped and set up and00:39:48.617 --> 00:39:51.079destined to be both.00:39:51.179 --> 00:39:52.400Like you tend to have a00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:55.240skillset in either one or the other.00:39:55.702 --> 00:39:57.023Like I'm not saying you can't do both,00:39:57.422 --> 00:39:59.784but a really good manager00:39:59.903 --> 00:40:02.945is not going to be a really good leader.00:40:03.385 --> 00:40:05.027And I think where we see this,00:40:05.327 --> 00:40:06.487even like in my own life,00:40:06.527 --> 00:40:07.208this is kind of some00:40:07.228 --> 00:40:08.208language that I stole from00:40:08.248 --> 00:40:09.710somebody else is like,00:40:10.617 --> 00:40:12.518there is a wow person and00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:13.739there is a how person.00:40:15.501 --> 00:40:19.163And even like in our own home,00:40:19.643 --> 00:40:20.684sometimes my husband and I00:40:20.724 --> 00:40:22.105flip-flop between how and wow,00:40:22.844 --> 00:40:23.485whoever that is.00:40:23.585 --> 00:40:24.425And it's okay,00:40:25.007 --> 00:40:27.628but you have to give time for the wow.00:40:27.648 --> 00:40:30.57024 hours is usually our rule.00:40:30.610 --> 00:40:31.570Like you have to be able to00:40:31.650 --> 00:40:33.391wow and almost wow yourself00:40:33.472 --> 00:40:34.873out for 24 hours before the00:40:34.913 --> 00:40:36.914how can come in and how it to death.00:40:37.434 --> 00:40:37.954What does that mean?00:40:39.121 --> 00:40:41.324yeah so when I come up with00:40:41.385 --> 00:40:43.407my latest harebrained idea00:40:43.427 --> 00:40:44.768I go to my husband I'm like00:40:45.009 --> 00:40:47.190I have this idea and what00:40:47.231 --> 00:40:48.932we have learned for our00:40:48.972 --> 00:40:50.255relationship and also for00:40:50.315 --> 00:40:51.757our long-term success is00:40:51.817 --> 00:40:53.818that I need to be able to00:40:53.958 --> 00:40:55.320have this excitement and00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:56.722this passion or vice versa00:40:56.782 --> 00:40:57.603right for 24 hours00:41:00.065 --> 00:41:01.766Because that gives me time00:41:02.166 --> 00:41:03.766to go up on the highest high,00:41:03.806 --> 00:41:04.987but also to come back down00:41:05.027 --> 00:41:07.748a little bit and then start to say, oh,00:41:07.847 --> 00:41:08.467what about this?00:41:08.847 --> 00:41:09.088Okay.00:41:09.188 --> 00:41:09.807How am I going to do that?00:41:10.108 --> 00:41:10.347Okay.00:41:10.467 --> 00:41:11.648Well, what about this kind of deal?00:41:12.068 --> 00:41:13.728And so at that 24 hour mark00:41:13.889 --> 00:41:15.168is when the other person00:41:15.409 --> 00:41:17.090can come in and be the how and be like,00:41:17.610 --> 00:41:18.849how are you going to do this?00:41:19.570 --> 00:41:21.030How are you going to do this part?00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:23.371And so it's more of that logistics thing.00:41:24.331 --> 00:41:25.432how is this actually going00:41:25.472 --> 00:41:27.394to work before you go off00:41:27.614 --> 00:41:30.217and buy seven domains on00:41:30.257 --> 00:41:31.318the internet and start a00:41:31.378 --> 00:41:32.460new business kind of deal?00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.581And so that is how we have00:41:34.681 --> 00:41:37.764found it to work in our own lives.00:41:37.905 --> 00:41:39.206And so I do think like...00:41:39.927 --> 00:41:41.967again, kind of with this concept of flow,00:41:42.487 --> 00:41:44.548we need to have the person00:41:44.648 --> 00:41:47.230or the team who can be like, wow,00:41:47.590 --> 00:41:48.710here's what we're going to do.00:41:48.731 --> 00:41:50.411And that's okay.00:41:51.032 --> 00:41:52.672And not immediately come in00:41:52.793 --> 00:41:54.873with the scissors and do00:41:54.994 --> 00:41:56.074our Frankenstein thing and00:41:56.094 --> 00:41:57.355then how it to death.00:41:57.775 --> 00:42:00.556This is a really, really hard thing to do,00:42:00.596 --> 00:42:02.237I think, especially in organizations.00:42:02.257 --> 00:42:02.836So I'm not saying I00:42:03.177 --> 00:42:04.697have the fix don't worry00:42:04.717 --> 00:42:06.797y'all but I think it's00:42:06.838 --> 00:42:07.978almost easier sometimes in00:42:07.998 --> 00:42:10.039like smaller teams like all00:42:10.059 --> 00:42:11.539of us are in to kind of00:42:11.579 --> 00:42:13.019have this like wow and then00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:14.860how and then make them work00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:16.061together yeah I think00:42:16.081 --> 00:42:17.260that's where I i sort of00:42:17.481 --> 00:42:18.880because I i work alone a00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:20.601lot I think that's where I00:42:20.621 --> 00:42:22.302fall apart is I was used to00:42:22.402 --> 00:42:24.282being one of five or six00:42:24.382 --> 00:42:25.382full-time people at a radio00:42:25.402 --> 00:42:28.083station where it was the00:42:28.123 --> 00:42:30.083wow and how was the time00:42:30.123 --> 00:42:31.105period was truncated it was00:42:31.125 --> 00:42:32.405like you go on the air at three00:42:33.094 --> 00:42:34.775We just got handed the new Nirvana.00:42:35.135 --> 00:42:35.817What are we doing?00:42:35.856 --> 00:42:37.177And it was like, turn.00:42:37.978 --> 00:42:38.838I got a cease and desist00:42:38.878 --> 00:42:39.898order for that move, by the way.00:42:40.139 --> 00:42:40.619I framed it.00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:42.601But it was like, you just got this thing.00:42:42.701 --> 00:42:43.641How do we respond?00:42:44.041 --> 00:42:45.483Where the golds or the greens?00:42:45.523 --> 00:42:46.643I can't remember because I'm an orange.00:42:46.663 --> 00:42:47.583I don't pay attention to detail.00:42:48.224 --> 00:42:49.204The golds or the greens would be like,00:42:49.264 --> 00:42:50.846let's sit around for 2400:42:50.846 --> 00:42:51.965hours and put together a plan.00:42:51.985 --> 00:42:52.987I'm like, you don't understand.00:42:53.086 --> 00:42:56.028Our competition is already moving on this.00:42:56.449 --> 00:42:56.648Right.00:42:57.210 --> 00:42:59.311The answer is we go on the air at three.00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:01.130What's our how?00:43:01.190 --> 00:43:03.931How are we going to wow is00:43:03.992 --> 00:43:05.032what an orange would do.00:43:05.052 --> 00:43:06.652They're like, how am I going to wow?00:43:06.693 --> 00:43:07.594Let's get the plan and let's00:43:07.713 --> 00:43:09.574execute because ideas are a dime a dozen.00:43:09.614 --> 00:43:10.315This is coming from a guy00:43:10.355 --> 00:43:11.494who has ideas every 10 minutes.00:43:12.054 --> 00:43:12.835It's execution.00:43:13.635 --> 00:43:15.476You cash that check with execution.00:43:16.036 --> 00:43:17.978We are now hiring for how people?00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:22.599Job applications being00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:23.860accepted for how people.00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:24.420Right.00:43:25.188 --> 00:43:26.610At each of the following organizations.00:43:26.869 --> 00:43:28.291I want to bring something up00:43:28.331 --> 00:43:29.371that I thought of earlier00:43:29.432 --> 00:43:31.635that I think fits kind of with this,00:43:31.775 --> 00:43:32.275you know, Jimmy,00:43:32.295 --> 00:43:33.436you keep coming back to like,00:43:33.577 --> 00:43:34.478I'm an ideas guy.00:43:34.498 --> 00:43:36.079Like I have ideas every 3000:43:36.079 --> 00:43:36.900seconds or whatever.00:43:37.661 --> 00:43:39.543I'm also kind of like that too.00:43:39.643 --> 00:43:41.204And I think Rebecca is too,00:43:41.284 --> 00:43:42.786to an extent of what I've00:43:42.827 --> 00:43:44.288grown to know about Rebecca.00:43:44.307 --> 00:43:44.547Right.00:43:47.110 --> 00:43:48.512And so I think that was00:43:48.572 --> 00:43:50.134almost paralyzing for me00:43:50.193 --> 00:43:51.094for a really long time00:43:51.135 --> 00:43:52.476because I had so many ideas00:43:52.596 --> 00:43:53.317and then they were just like,00:43:53.797 --> 00:43:55.157as soon as they came, they were gone.00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:56.559But genuinely,00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:57.701there were two questions in00:43:57.740 --> 00:43:59.342particular in going through00:43:59.362 --> 00:44:00.202the professional00:44:00.242 --> 00:44:01.744development plan that kind of helped me.00:44:02.945 --> 00:44:05.967zoom in on what I really am like, oh,00:44:06.527 --> 00:44:08.708this is an idea that I want00:44:08.748 --> 00:44:11.090to just float on by and that's okay.00:44:11.449 --> 00:44:12.570And this is an idea that I00:44:12.630 --> 00:44:13.731want to stick around.00:44:14.251 --> 00:44:15.811So two questions,00:44:16.112 --> 00:44:17.132what accomplishment are you00:44:17.172 --> 00:44:17.893most proud of?00:44:19.134 --> 00:44:20.414I think is sometimes harder00:44:20.454 --> 00:44:21.655to answer for ourselves00:44:21.996 --> 00:44:24.117than what we give ourselves credit for.00:44:24.896 --> 00:44:26.538And then is this where you00:44:26.617 --> 00:44:29.119plan to be at this stage in your career?00:44:30.362 --> 00:44:31.422And there were lots of good00:44:31.443 --> 00:44:32.304questions on there, Rebecca.00:44:32.324 --> 00:44:33.744I'm not trying to bring it00:44:33.764 --> 00:44:35.005down to just two questions.00:44:35.226 --> 00:44:37.188But those two questions for00:44:37.248 --> 00:44:39.530me really forced me to sit00:44:39.710 --> 00:44:41.851in the discomfort that I00:44:41.911 --> 00:44:43.193sometimes have in00:44:43.273 --> 00:44:44.454reflecting on my own00:44:44.755 --> 00:44:46.255success and accomplishments00:44:46.315 --> 00:44:47.056and achievements.00:44:47.577 --> 00:44:48.458But also,00:44:50.298 --> 00:44:52.541am I actually doing what I set out to do?00:44:53.900 --> 00:44:55.141at the start of all of this.00:44:55.780 --> 00:44:57.501And if that's not matching, that is,00:44:57.581 --> 00:44:59.284I think sometimes just as00:44:59.583 --> 00:45:01.925uncomfortable to sit in and be like,00:45:02.726 --> 00:45:03.606I am not,00:45:03.766 --> 00:45:06.447this is not matching what I thought.00:45:06.949 --> 00:45:07.889And so for me,00:45:08.028 --> 00:45:10.371those two have helped me00:45:10.431 --> 00:45:14.373really like zoom in on as ideas come,00:45:15.114 --> 00:45:16.715is this one that I really00:45:16.755 --> 00:45:17.615want to see through?00:45:17.795 --> 00:45:19.737Or is this an idea that I can just,00:45:20.396 --> 00:45:22.498I can tuck away for later and it's okay.00:45:22.987 --> 00:45:23.166Yeah.00:45:23.286 --> 00:45:24.248Leave it in the shopping cart,00:45:24.268 --> 00:45:24.887but don't buy it.00:45:25.389 --> 00:45:25.528Right.00:45:25.929 --> 00:45:26.949I do that a lot on Amazon.00:45:27.230 --> 00:45:28.271I definitely want this.00:45:28.371 --> 00:45:30.112I'm going to buy the 4,00000:45:30.112 --> 00:45:31.793piece Millennium Falcon Lego set.00:45:32.074 --> 00:45:32.554Absolutely.00:45:32.974 --> 00:45:33.795And I will eventually,00:45:33.914 --> 00:45:34.735but I leave it in the cart00:45:34.976 --> 00:45:36.637and I hit save for later.00:45:36.657 --> 00:45:37.878See?00:45:38.838 --> 00:45:39.119Yeah.00:45:39.518 --> 00:45:40.159I don't know what the hell00:45:40.179 --> 00:45:40.800to do with that.00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:41.701Wow and how?00:45:42.141 --> 00:45:42.681Wow and how?00:45:42.802 --> 00:45:44.382So that one question that you just asked,00:45:44.402 --> 00:45:45.403what are you most proud of?00:45:45.603 --> 00:45:46.403I worked at a couple00:45:46.443 --> 00:45:47.505different places and I00:45:47.684 --> 00:45:48.806asked myself that question00:45:48.846 --> 00:45:50.047and I couldn't come up with an answer.00:45:50.266 --> 00:45:51.327And that's when I knew I had to leave.00:45:54.246 --> 00:45:55.106I'm not really proud of00:45:55.146 --> 00:45:56.085anything that I've done here.00:45:56.507 --> 00:45:57.387I could point to a lot of00:45:57.427 --> 00:45:58.266things when I ran radio00:45:58.286 --> 00:46:00.007stations because I baked00:46:00.047 --> 00:46:01.248into the cake things that00:46:01.527 --> 00:46:02.307would make me proud.00:46:02.527 --> 00:46:02.907Like, yeah,00:46:02.947 --> 00:46:03.927making the radio station money.00:46:04.188 --> 00:46:04.907That wasn't one of them.00:46:05.387 --> 00:46:07.068That was something my boss00:46:07.088 --> 00:46:07.829probably liked me to do.00:46:08.708 --> 00:46:09.989I had a couple moments there00:46:10.009 --> 00:46:11.030when I was like, I'm proud of this.00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:13.030There's a highlight reel moment.00:46:13.130 --> 00:46:13.889And I think I worked at a00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:14.690couple different companies00:46:15.371 --> 00:46:17.251after getting my PT degree00:46:17.271 --> 00:46:18.351and I couldn't come up with00:46:18.371 --> 00:46:19.070it after a year.00:46:19.971 --> 00:46:20.931And that's when I decided00:46:21.152 --> 00:46:22.271both of those times to leave.00:46:23.896 --> 00:46:24.637Actually, three times,00:46:24.657 --> 00:46:26.358three different times.00:46:26.378 --> 00:46:27.639And that is really good for00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:28.559professional development00:46:28.579 --> 00:46:29.300planning because it helps00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.101you make decisions and not get stuck.00:46:31.161 --> 00:46:32.563Because that's that question, right?00:46:32.682 --> 00:46:34.164Am I where I wanted to be in00:46:34.204 --> 00:46:35.083my career right now?00:46:35.563 --> 00:46:36.864Or did I wake up 10 years00:46:36.905 --> 00:46:38.186later and looked around and think,00:46:38.726 --> 00:46:41.327I'm still here.00:46:41.927 --> 00:46:42.748How did I get here?00:46:42.829 --> 00:46:43.909How did I get stuck here?00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:45.530And where did the last 10 years go?00:46:45.731 --> 00:46:47.592And where's that I actually want to be?00:46:47.612 --> 00:46:49.753It's like waking up from a00:46:49.853 --> 00:46:51.735dream all of a sudden and realizing,00:46:52.755 --> 00:46:53.815It's not the right place.00:46:53.876 --> 00:46:55.317Well, I'm in that scary part, right?00:46:55.336 --> 00:46:55.516I mean,00:46:55.536 --> 00:46:56.797we talked about this as my dad had00:46:56.838 --> 00:46:58.619a stroke months ago and I00:46:58.659 --> 00:46:59.900had a job then and I00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:01.380couldn't do it because my00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.322dad was living with me and now he's not.00:47:03.342 --> 00:47:04.663He's back at his house most00:47:04.682 --> 00:47:06.364of the time and that's good.00:47:06.384 --> 00:47:07.204So now I got time.00:47:08.545 --> 00:47:09.266But now I have to figure out00:47:09.286 --> 00:47:10.166where the hell I fit.00:47:10.306 --> 00:47:12.188What are the things that excite me?00:47:12.248 --> 00:47:13.429And I don't know the answer to that.00:47:14.012 --> 00:47:15.012I would be really good at00:47:15.072 --> 00:47:16.653coaching myself if I wasn't me.00:47:16.974 --> 00:47:17.873Like it's really good to00:47:17.994 --> 00:47:18.773coach other people.00:47:19.034 --> 00:47:21.014Like so obvious to other people.00:47:21.494 --> 00:47:22.934It's super not obvious to me.00:47:23.795 --> 00:47:23.954Yeah.00:47:25.054 --> 00:47:26.235I guess it's a SWOT analysis.00:47:26.375 --> 00:47:26.755I don't know.00:47:26.795 --> 00:47:28.735I don't want to just keep doing exercises.00:47:29.576 --> 00:47:31.096Well, but then you have to make the plan,00:47:31.135 --> 00:47:31.356right?00:47:31.376 --> 00:47:32.556Like the plan has to go with00:47:32.577 --> 00:47:33.356the exercises.00:47:34.056 --> 00:47:35.396And where I find when people00:47:35.416 --> 00:47:38.157are going through the plan,00:47:39.177 --> 00:47:40.257they get stuck on the vision.00:47:43.001 --> 00:47:43.842And once you kind of get00:47:43.862 --> 00:47:44.762your vision nailed in,00:47:44.782 --> 00:47:45.884it's not really hard to00:47:45.963 --> 00:47:47.224decide what the plan looks00:47:47.264 --> 00:47:48.706like or how to have a00:47:48.786 --> 00:47:49.726meaningful yes and a00:47:49.806 --> 00:47:51.588meaningful no when people00:47:51.708 --> 00:47:52.849offer you opportunities.00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:57.074But that's where people quit00:47:57.853 --> 00:47:59.175because they can't see themselves.00:47:59.215 --> 00:48:00.197They can't see their vision.00:48:00.237 --> 00:48:03.179They fill out all the form.00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:04.420They fill out the form.00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:05.481And then when they have to00:48:05.541 --> 00:48:06.963generate this vision of who00:48:07.023 --> 00:48:09.125they are and who they want to be,00:48:10.557 --> 00:48:11.958and what they want their life to be,00:48:12.219 --> 00:48:13.119like actually true,00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.239like a vision for their professional life,00:48:16.181 --> 00:48:16.800they get stuck.00:48:17.661 --> 00:48:18.762And usually when I work with00:48:18.782 --> 00:48:19.342people on that,00:48:19.681 --> 00:48:21.322I talk to them about lots of things.00:48:21.463 --> 00:48:22.384It's like when you do your00:48:22.463 --> 00:48:24.065intakes with clients, Jimmy,00:48:24.565 --> 00:48:25.164and you ask them,00:48:25.184 --> 00:48:26.666you do like a PT eval on them.00:48:26.925 --> 00:48:28.847I kind of do a PT eval on00:48:28.887 --> 00:48:29.447where they are in their00:48:29.467 --> 00:48:30.027professional life.00:48:30.387 --> 00:48:31.387And I listen to all the00:48:31.427 --> 00:48:32.469things that they're saying to me.00:48:33.358 --> 00:48:34.500And I write things down.00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:36.940And then often it's like a00:48:37.001 --> 00:48:38.601sticky note because usually00:48:38.661 --> 00:48:40.543the themes that keep coming00:48:40.643 --> 00:48:41.623up that they don't hear00:48:41.663 --> 00:48:44.623themselves saying fit on a sticky note.00:48:46.284 --> 00:48:47.065And then I hand them the00:48:47.106 --> 00:48:49.246sticky note and almost00:48:49.367 --> 00:48:50.567always their eyes well up00:48:50.586 --> 00:48:52.027with tears and they're like, oh,00:48:52.867 --> 00:48:53.429there I am.00:48:53.969 --> 00:48:54.389Here I am.00:48:54.409 --> 00:48:57.451I don't know mine.00:48:59.112 --> 00:49:01.032He needs me to listen and he00:49:01.072 --> 00:49:01.932needs me to see you.00:49:02.827 --> 00:49:03.927Yeah, I talk a lot,00:49:03.947 --> 00:49:04.867but maybe I don't say enough.00:49:06.369 --> 00:49:06.690I don't know.00:49:06.710 --> 00:49:08.271I think you say a lot.00:49:09.652 --> 00:49:10.851Maybe you just can't hear yourself.00:49:11.393 --> 00:49:12.934That's sort of why... So I00:49:12.954 --> 00:49:14.355do two live streams a week,00:49:15.355 --> 00:49:17.155Dave and Tony earlier in the day,00:49:17.356 --> 00:49:18.336and then one with you guys.00:49:19.117 --> 00:49:20.318And I sort of like...00:49:20.418 --> 00:49:21.278Because most of the time I00:49:21.318 --> 00:49:22.219come into interviews and00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:23.900regular episodes super prepared,00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:25.101or at least outlined.00:49:25.242 --> 00:49:26.742Never scripted, but outlined.00:49:28.043 --> 00:49:28.204And...00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:31.170With my radio background,00:49:31.190 --> 00:49:32.610I was sort of afraid of dead air.00:49:32.791 --> 00:49:33.652Or where do we go next?00:49:33.711 --> 00:49:34.492Or is this awkward?00:49:34.512 --> 00:49:35.431Or what's the next step?00:49:35.532 --> 00:49:36.771That's why I probably don't like dancing.00:49:36.952 --> 00:49:37.231I can't.00:49:37.271 --> 00:49:37.592I don't.00:49:37.813 --> 00:49:39.092This is where it's like, he's an orange.00:49:39.112 --> 00:49:39.893He should love dancing.00:49:39.913 --> 00:49:40.532I can't stand it.00:49:41.492 --> 00:49:42.012Because it's this,00:49:42.112 --> 00:49:43.213I don't know what's going on here.00:49:43.634 --> 00:49:44.514And then I feel awkward.00:49:45.333 --> 00:49:47.034But I think that this whole00:49:47.094 --> 00:49:47.994live streaming thing,00:49:48.014 --> 00:49:50.054which is like a stream of consciousness,00:49:50.574 --> 00:49:51.155is good.00:49:51.295 --> 00:49:51.954Because it's just like,00:49:52.094 --> 00:49:53.835get all the... We do this a00:49:53.876 --> 00:49:54.715lot in ad campaigns.00:49:55.853 --> 00:49:57.134What should the tagline be for this?00:49:57.434 --> 00:49:58.554And we used to yell things out.00:49:58.695 --> 00:49:59.755And whatever the first 10 or00:49:59.755 --> 00:50:00.83515 or 20 would come out,00:50:01.014 --> 00:50:01.534we'd throw them out.00:50:02.195 --> 00:50:03.275That's what everybody else would do.00:50:03.954 --> 00:50:04.956That was the low-hanging fruit.00:50:05.496 --> 00:50:06.576I want to go higher on the tree.00:50:07.536 --> 00:50:09.255So if I were to do that, all right,00:50:09.275 --> 00:50:09.916let's just keep going.00:50:09.936 --> 00:50:10.896If I were to do that in my career,00:50:11.036 --> 00:50:13.197I thought I wanted to be a consultant.00:50:13.297 --> 00:50:14.876And I like that as sort of a00:50:14.936 --> 00:50:15.797hobby aside thing.00:50:16.418 --> 00:50:17.557But being a consultant,00:50:17.577 --> 00:50:18.657I don't get to work with other people.00:50:19.518 --> 00:50:20.498I come into an organization,00:50:20.518 --> 00:50:21.137I tell them what to do,00:50:21.197 --> 00:50:21.898and I sort of leave.00:50:22.099 --> 00:50:23.378I come back and I go, did you do it?00:50:23.398 --> 00:50:24.539And they go, yeah, kind of.00:50:25.219 --> 00:50:25.978Can't you just do it for me?00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:26.838No, I'm not an employee.00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:28.340Can't do that.00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:29.360It's not how it works.00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:30.599Not that I don't want to do it,00:50:31.181 --> 00:50:32.101but maybe I'm not built for00:50:32.121 --> 00:50:33.041that or I'm not built for00:50:33.061 --> 00:50:33.940that to be full time.00:50:33.960 --> 00:50:35.001Maybe my color on my00:50:35.101 --> 00:50:38.342calendar shouldn't be all consulting.00:50:38.382 --> 00:50:38.983Maybe that should just be00:50:39.023 --> 00:50:40.663like what I do 20% of the time.00:50:40.722 --> 00:50:41.643And I'm fulfilled by that00:50:41.844 --> 00:50:42.684because that's kind of fun,00:50:43.083 --> 00:50:44.344but I'm missing the 80% of00:50:44.384 --> 00:50:45.784what I should do in terms of work.00:50:47.739 --> 00:50:49.119Because I miss being a part of a team.00:50:49.179 --> 00:50:50.721I miss being a part of... My00:50:50.740 --> 00:50:51.822life was a radio station00:50:51.842 --> 00:50:52.422where there's a bunch of00:50:52.442 --> 00:50:54.163people who were similar at what I did,00:50:54.202 --> 00:50:54.983but never the same.00:50:55.443 --> 00:50:56.284Strengths and weaknesses00:50:56.324 --> 00:50:56.985different than mine.00:50:57.585 --> 00:50:59.065And we always had a problem00:50:59.106 --> 00:50:59.927of how to communicate this.00:50:59.987 --> 00:51:00.947And we always came at it,00:51:01.208 --> 00:51:02.148always came at it from00:51:02.188 --> 00:51:02.869different directions.00:51:02.969 --> 00:51:04.869And it was like, oh, yes and, yes and,00:51:04.909 --> 00:51:05.230yes and.00:51:05.630 --> 00:51:06.271And the thing was,00:51:06.490 --> 00:51:07.512that was where creativity00:51:07.552 --> 00:51:08.753by committee was better.00:51:08.773 --> 00:51:11.434Because it wasn't, here's an idea,00:51:11.454 --> 00:51:12.916let's break it apart and tear it down.00:51:13.315 --> 00:51:14.135Or let's dissect it.00:51:14.275 --> 00:51:14.556It was,00:51:14.936 --> 00:51:16.557let's put it together from the bottom up.00:51:17.661 --> 00:51:18.722And then let's make sure00:51:18.742 --> 00:51:19.503that thing can walk and00:51:19.543 --> 00:51:20.844talk and make sure it's not a,00:51:20.884 --> 00:51:22.105make sure it's not a Frankenstein.00:51:22.565 --> 00:51:23.545But then I also was in00:51:23.586 --> 00:51:24.487charge of the radio station.00:51:24.527 --> 00:51:25.467I was the one who said, go.00:51:25.887 --> 00:51:26.829I was the one who at least00:51:26.909 --> 00:51:29.030was a lot because I was00:51:29.070 --> 00:51:31.813taught well by smart people.00:51:31.913 --> 00:51:33.514They're like, you can't water it down.00:51:33.833 --> 00:51:35.335It's either a wow.00:51:35.976 --> 00:51:36.916And then you figure out the00:51:36.936 --> 00:51:38.418how you don't figure out how then.00:51:38.458 --> 00:51:38.657Wow.00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:39.818Yeah.00:51:39.838 --> 00:51:41.000I think the wow has got to come first.00:51:44.262 --> 00:51:45.342What if you had your own team?00:51:46.581 --> 00:51:47.021That's my problem.00:51:47.041 --> 00:51:47.862I don't know how to,00:51:47.882 --> 00:51:49.282I always took over a radio station.00:51:49.802 --> 00:51:50.423There was always a team00:51:50.443 --> 00:51:51.764there and I figured out how to use them.00:51:52.764 --> 00:51:53.606But what if you built your00:51:53.746 --> 00:51:55.347own like dream team and00:51:55.367 --> 00:51:56.027then you could be a00:51:56.086 --> 00:51:58.369consulting firm and those people.00:51:59.009 --> 00:51:59.710How do I do that?00:51:59.849 --> 00:52:00.590I don't know how to do that.00:52:00.730 --> 00:52:01.030Yes.00:52:01.210 --> 00:52:02.050The answer is yes,00:52:02.431 --> 00:52:03.492but I have no idea what00:52:03.512 --> 00:52:04.572that's what step two is.00:52:04.733 --> 00:52:05.373There's the wow.00:52:05.653 --> 00:52:06.054Be a team.00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:07.800How?00:52:08.201 --> 00:52:08.521I don't know.00:52:09.081 --> 00:52:11.284Because all I see is the end00:52:11.364 --> 00:52:12.005result of that.00:52:12.646 --> 00:52:13.487But I miss people.00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:14.550That's my problem.00:52:15.090 --> 00:52:15.271Yeah.00:52:16.072 --> 00:52:16.813I don't want to be.00:52:17.293 --> 00:52:17.693Yeah, go ahead.00:52:18.175 --> 00:52:19.496Can I share a quote that I00:52:19.717 --> 00:52:20.617have heard and then wrote00:52:20.637 --> 00:52:21.239down this morning?00:52:21.259 --> 00:52:21.318Yes.00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:23.862Have the audacity.00:52:23.882 --> 00:52:24.704Mm-hmm.00:52:25.617 --> 00:52:26.838Stop worrying about the how.00:52:26.938 --> 00:52:27.639Have the vision.00:52:27.659 --> 00:52:29.201I was literally listening to00:52:29.240 --> 00:52:30.282something else entirely00:52:30.302 --> 00:52:32.423this morning before this.00:52:32.943 --> 00:52:34.826Have the audacity.00:52:35.525 --> 00:52:36.186Have the vision.00:52:36.367 --> 00:52:37.268Stop worrying about the how.00:52:37.648 --> 00:52:38.467The how will come.00:52:39.168 --> 00:52:39.429Yeah.00:52:39.608 --> 00:52:40.230And I like that.00:52:40.469 --> 00:52:41.771Except now I don't have a job.00:52:43.773 --> 00:52:44.472And I have a house.00:52:44.693 --> 00:52:46.315And I have a dad who's sick.00:52:46.534 --> 00:52:47.396And I have people that count.00:52:47.456 --> 00:52:49.356So yes, I agree to all of that.00:52:49.556 --> 00:52:50.478And I would be giving myself00:52:50.518 --> 00:52:51.079the same advice.00:52:51.976 --> 00:52:54.360But no, I mean, I like no pressure,00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:54.900no diamonds.00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:55.101Right.00:52:55.141 --> 00:52:55.780I like pressure.00:52:56.041 --> 00:52:57.282But like now it's like I00:52:57.302 --> 00:52:58.364need to just do the same thing.00:52:59.385 --> 00:53:01.128It's definitely a scarcity00:53:01.268 --> 00:53:02.588place to be right when00:53:02.628 --> 00:53:03.911you're in a situation like00:53:04.030 --> 00:53:05.733that's not a good orange pressure.00:53:07.474 --> 00:53:08.856That's not a good orange pressure.00:53:08.876 --> 00:53:10.376Not all pressure is equal.00:53:11.137 --> 00:53:11.478No,00:53:11.637 --> 00:53:13.719because pressure is made out of00:53:13.778 --> 00:53:15.701scarcity and fear, right?00:53:15.740 --> 00:53:16.400They're going to make you00:53:16.420 --> 00:53:17.481choose something that feels00:53:17.561 --> 00:53:19.762safe that may not fit with00:53:19.782 --> 00:53:21.184your orange personality, right?00:53:21.204 --> 00:53:22.264And you're like, nope,00:53:22.304 --> 00:53:23.646this is the thing that I should do,00:53:23.666 --> 00:53:24.746so I'm going to do that.00:53:25.626 --> 00:53:26.248And I'm having that00:53:26.307 --> 00:53:28.469conversation with myself a lot right now.00:53:28.969 --> 00:53:31.431Maybe I should just go back00:53:31.471 --> 00:53:32.572to full-time clinical care.00:53:32.592 --> 00:53:33.693Maybe I should just...00:53:35.396 --> 00:53:36.777stop this maybe I should00:53:36.876 --> 00:53:38.398just give up this that I00:53:38.438 --> 00:53:39.878really enjoy because it00:53:39.918 --> 00:53:42.061doesn't provide what I need00:53:42.081 --> 00:53:43.382it to provide financially00:53:43.782 --> 00:53:47.724you know it's like but if00:53:47.764 --> 00:53:49.905we can grow with it and not00:53:49.965 --> 00:53:50.626get trapped in that00:53:50.706 --> 00:53:51.768scarcity mindset which is00:53:51.827 --> 00:53:52.927hard when people depend on00:53:52.967 --> 00:53:55.949you it's hard you got to00:53:55.969 --> 00:53:57.271figure out a way around it00:53:57.711 --> 00:53:58.612I wrote this text message00:53:58.632 --> 00:53:59.413to a friend this morning00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:02.143And I don't know why she texted me,00:54:02.583 --> 00:54:04.005but she was like, hey, how's it going?00:54:04.164 --> 00:54:05.306And I decided to be honest.00:54:05.865 --> 00:54:06.286And I wrote,00:54:06.666 --> 00:54:07.827I'm starting to think that00:54:07.887 --> 00:54:09.170just maybe I'm not actually00:54:09.250 --> 00:54:09.769useful at all.00:54:10.170 --> 00:54:11.291And maybe I've just been a really,00:54:11.371 --> 00:54:13.173really great bullshitter for a long time.00:54:17.677 --> 00:54:19.360Like, I am very good at bullshitting.00:54:22.235 --> 00:54:23.496that's what communicating is00:54:23.577 --> 00:54:24.556right in a good way like00:54:24.717 --> 00:54:25.398bullshitting would be like00:54:25.418 --> 00:54:26.277the negative way to say it00:54:26.378 --> 00:54:27.918right but it's like I need00:54:27.938 --> 00:54:29.179you to understand this and00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:30.001to understand it I need to00:54:30.041 --> 00:54:31.242put it into a story and the00:54:31.262 --> 00:54:32.282story is not always direct00:54:32.362 --> 00:54:33.083that's why I tell a story00:54:33.123 --> 00:54:34.324about this that's why we00:54:34.344 --> 00:54:36.425tell fairy tales telling a00:54:36.485 --> 00:54:40.126kid to not uh you know plan00:54:40.146 --> 00:54:41.168for a rainy day because00:54:41.248 --> 00:54:41.949every once in a while00:54:41.989 --> 00:54:42.588something might come00:54:42.889 --> 00:54:43.829doesn't work but telling00:54:43.849 --> 00:54:44.791the story the big bad wolf00:54:44.931 --> 00:54:46.731does work you have to00:54:46.791 --> 00:54:48.092create the villain right00:54:48.333 --> 00:54:49.853that's what so it's like bullshitting00:54:51.476 --> 00:54:52.536I think I'm a bullshitter,00:54:52.556 --> 00:54:53.378but I think the thing that00:54:53.418 --> 00:54:54.958I bullshit is like, I believe in it.00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:55.619Like I'm not,00:54:56.039 --> 00:54:57.760that's why I didn't leave PT00:54:57.780 --> 00:54:58.820when I left clinical practice.00:54:58.880 --> 00:54:59.880Cause I really do believe in00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:01.221the service that we provide.00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:01.800I really do.00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:02.362I honestly do.00:55:03.661 --> 00:55:04.842But just repeating the same00:55:04.882 --> 00:55:06.163boring message doesn't do it.00:55:06.302 --> 00:55:07.003So I'm like, great.00:55:07.043 --> 00:55:07.963We need to start bullshitting.00:55:08.103 --> 00:55:09.423And like, that's funny too, is like, Hey,00:55:09.443 --> 00:55:10.105I was bullshitting with my00:55:10.144 --> 00:55:10.644friend the other day.00:55:10.764 --> 00:55:12.166That's like a positive version.00:55:12.626 --> 00:55:13.846It's like just, you know, this,00:55:14.547 --> 00:55:15.226but in that message,00:55:15.266 --> 00:55:16.067I wrote to my friend this morning.00:55:16.086 --> 00:55:18.108I'm like, maybe I'm not actually,00:55:18.248 --> 00:55:20.489maybe it's just not, maybe I'm hype.00:55:22.610 --> 00:55:24.092I mean, you have to think like that.00:55:24.751 --> 00:55:25.032I think.00:55:25.092 --> 00:55:25.952I think you have to honestly00:55:25.992 --> 00:55:26.592assess yourself.00:55:27.173 --> 00:55:28.894Maybe the thing you've been00:55:28.934 --> 00:55:31.655selling all along... At00:55:31.936 --> 00:55:33.577least you have to ask yourself that.00:55:33.617 --> 00:55:35.699Maybe it's not true, but I don't know.00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:36.820Okay,00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:38.099I would argue first that it's not true,00:55:38.139 --> 00:55:39.181but then second, I would say,00:55:39.221 --> 00:55:40.041what's wrong with that?00:55:40.641 --> 00:55:41.422What's wrong with what part?00:55:41.802 --> 00:55:42.362Selling hype.00:55:43.664 --> 00:55:44.744What's wrong with being hype?00:55:45.465 --> 00:55:45.724Right,00:55:46.405 --> 00:55:49.867which goes back to a Denny's at CSM00:55:50.208 --> 00:55:51.829seven years ago, and my...00:55:52.570 --> 00:55:53.751professor at the time,00:55:53.771 --> 00:55:55.152or I think I just graduated, goes,00:55:55.331 --> 00:55:58.753what's the back of a menu at Denny's?00:55:58.934 --> 00:56:00.233She flipped it over and was like,00:56:00.554 --> 00:56:01.614here's the plan.00:56:01.715 --> 00:56:02.876What do you want to be in 10 years?00:56:03.835 --> 00:56:04.795And that's almost 10 years ago.00:56:05.217 --> 00:56:05.697And I said,00:56:05.717 --> 00:56:06.536I want to be the voice of00:56:06.597 --> 00:56:07.297physical therapy.00:56:07.478 --> 00:56:08.297And that doesn't mean I want00:56:08.338 --> 00:56:10.119to be the only voice in physical therapy.00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:11.338Ironically, I was like,00:56:11.539 --> 00:56:14.119I want to be the WD-40 of00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:15.201all the other smart people00:56:15.561 --> 00:56:16.601because they don't have a microphone.00:56:16.621 --> 00:56:17.882I'm like, I can see your brilliance.00:56:18.521 --> 00:56:19.762I can help you teach people stuff.00:56:21.994 --> 00:56:23.313Jimmy Fallon isn't the star00:56:23.333 --> 00:56:24.175of the Jimmy Fallon show.00:56:24.675 --> 00:56:25.695I think he would agree with me.00:56:26.635 --> 00:56:28.777It's who he yes ands with all day.00:56:29.536 --> 00:56:31.418He gets Justin Timberlake or00:56:32.018 --> 00:56:34.219Charlize Theron to yes and.00:56:35.260 --> 00:56:36.139I think, ironically,00:56:36.179 --> 00:56:37.161his name's on the show,00:56:37.221 --> 00:56:38.260but I think he would agree00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:39.240that he's not the star.00:56:41.802 --> 00:56:42.182I don't know.00:56:42.322 --> 00:56:43.282I'm just talking now because00:56:43.302 --> 00:56:44.403both of you are looking at me funny.00:56:46.186 --> 00:56:47.809I think you're underselling00:56:47.849 --> 00:56:48.869yourself quite a bit.00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:50.751And I think your goal of00:56:50.791 --> 00:56:51.833being the voice of physical00:56:51.873 --> 00:56:53.153therapy is accurate because00:56:53.233 --> 00:56:56.056yesterday I saw on somebody's Instagram,00:56:56.496 --> 00:56:58.239a student, she wasn't even,00:56:58.259 --> 00:56:59.780hadn't even started the program yet.00:57:00.702 --> 00:57:00.961She was,00:57:01.342 --> 00:57:03.123it was like right before she had00:57:03.184 --> 00:57:04.786started PT school and she00:57:04.826 --> 00:57:06.286had a screenshot of your00:57:06.327 --> 00:57:08.148podcast that she was listening to.00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:09.851And it said,00:57:11.592 --> 00:57:12.715I love this podcast.00:57:12.835 --> 00:57:14.096I listen to it every time00:57:14.135 --> 00:57:15.617I'm in the car because the00:57:15.657 --> 00:57:17.481way Jimmy McKay talks to00:57:17.521 --> 00:57:18.581leaders in this profession00:57:18.882 --> 00:57:19.884makes me more and more00:57:19.943 --> 00:57:21.164excited about my future.00:57:21.925 --> 00:57:24.028And this is a second career PT.00:57:24.048 --> 00:57:25.110This is somebody who's going00:57:25.150 --> 00:57:26.371into it with a family,00:57:26.411 --> 00:57:27.974like moving into their life.00:57:29.884 --> 00:57:31.744And you are part of what00:57:31.864 --> 00:57:34.547made that person know what PT was,00:57:34.967 --> 00:57:35.947explain the different types00:57:36.007 --> 00:57:37.789of PT and have her continue00:57:37.809 --> 00:57:38.929to be excited about it.00:57:39.510 --> 00:57:41.472And I met her last week and she said,00:57:41.632 --> 00:57:43.494I found you from Jimmy's podcast.00:57:43.934 --> 00:57:45.675And now I listen to your podcast.00:57:46.275 --> 00:57:48.237And then when I hear both of00:57:48.277 --> 00:57:50.018you talk about physical therapy,00:57:50.117 --> 00:57:51.239I'm excited about it.00:57:51.259 --> 00:57:53.300And I'm excited to see what00:57:53.380 --> 00:57:54.561I'll be when I grow up.00:57:55.661 --> 00:57:57.543So that's one ripple.00:57:57.864 --> 00:57:58.043Right.00:58:00.170 --> 00:58:02.039So you are, you have met that goal, Jimmy.00:58:02.059 --> 00:58:03.344So my challenge is like, what's next?00:58:03.405 --> 00:58:04.369You are the voice of PT.00:58:04.389 --> 00:58:05.052Like what's next?00:58:05.583 --> 00:58:06.884I don't, I don't know.00:58:06.903 --> 00:58:08.644I guess now I do the, how I guess,00:58:08.664 --> 00:58:09.505is that what you were saying?00:58:09.824 --> 00:58:10.826That was my wow for you.00:58:11.005 --> 00:58:11.525Wow.00:58:11.786 --> 00:58:12.306Is that it?00:58:12.326 --> 00:58:13.447Like, I'm honestly asking, like,00:58:13.547 --> 00:58:14.668I don't know because I've00:58:14.688 --> 00:58:15.608been doing this for eight00:58:15.648 --> 00:58:17.869years and I really do like it,00:58:18.409 --> 00:58:19.789but now I'm like, is this a thing?00:58:20.530 --> 00:58:22.231Like eight years in, is this a thing?00:58:22.972 --> 00:58:23.711Cause I don't have a hundred00:58:23.731 --> 00:58:24.472thousand followers.00:58:24.952 --> 00:58:25.693We we've,00:58:26.333 --> 00:58:27.853we've gotten 5 million downloads00:58:27.893 --> 00:58:28.514over eight years.00:58:28.594 --> 00:58:29.155It's pretty good.00:58:29.175 --> 00:58:30.376It's almost a million a year, right?00:58:30.396 --> 00:58:30.755It's good.00:58:32.351 --> 00:58:33.793But I don't know.00:58:34.193 --> 00:58:34.413Yeah.00:58:34.713 --> 00:58:35.452What do I do with that?00:58:35.853 --> 00:58:36.454Is that a job?00:58:37.253 --> 00:58:41.775Is that on my Noah Kagan thing?00:58:41.916 --> 00:58:42.956Is that what I do full time?00:58:42.996 --> 00:58:43.396I don't know.00:58:44.056 --> 00:58:44.998Because that's what ikigai,00:58:45.018 --> 00:58:46.137we've talked about ikigai, right?00:58:46.177 --> 00:58:46.958The four circles.00:58:47.699 --> 00:58:49.458It's like what you're good at,00:58:49.500 --> 00:58:50.380what the world needs,00:58:50.539 --> 00:58:52.041what you can get paid for, what you love.00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:53.800And that's where I think00:58:53.820 --> 00:58:54.762people get confused.00:58:54.802 --> 00:58:55.382I'm good at it.00:58:56.222 --> 00:58:56.922Do you love it though?00:58:57.023 --> 00:58:57.862Because you might be good at00:58:57.882 --> 00:58:58.523something you don't love.00:58:58.583 --> 00:58:59.623Don't do that, right?00:58:59.643 --> 00:58:59.724Yeah.00:59:00.418 --> 00:59:00.978So I don't know.00:59:00.998 --> 00:59:01.880I got to figure out what that is.00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:03.000Am I a media company?00:59:03.139 --> 00:59:05.021Am I a guy with people around me?00:59:05.121 --> 00:59:05.782But I don't know how to go00:59:05.842 --> 00:59:07.001from a guy with a camera00:59:07.021 --> 00:59:08.262and a microphone to a company.00:59:08.483 --> 00:59:09.182I don't know how to go from00:59:09.302 --> 00:59:10.083one employee to two.00:59:10.224 --> 00:59:10.664I do not.00:59:11.704 --> 00:59:12.704Because to me, that's risky.00:59:14.166 --> 00:59:15.447So do I get a full-time job00:59:15.706 --> 00:59:17.166and then I'll figure it out later?00:59:17.367 --> 00:59:18.847Or is that the nail in my coffin?00:59:18.867 --> 00:59:20.048Because I'll figure it out later.00:59:20.148 --> 00:59:21.550Someday is code for never.00:59:21.570 --> 00:59:22.750I don't know the answer.00:59:23.210 --> 00:59:24.170Well, Jimmy, what should I do?00:59:25.373 --> 00:59:26.612With what part?00:59:27.333 --> 00:59:28.414So it's just me.00:59:28.434 --> 00:59:29.253Should I hire somebody to00:59:29.293 --> 00:59:30.074help me do all this stuff00:59:30.094 --> 00:59:31.474that I hate doing so that I00:59:31.514 --> 00:59:33.614can actually... I think you00:59:33.634 --> 00:59:35.155should go get your first big-ass client.00:59:35.934 --> 00:59:37.094I think you should wow them00:59:37.715 --> 00:59:39.114and then be like, okay.00:59:40.175 --> 00:59:40.596All right.00:59:40.655 --> 00:59:42.036I'm not even going to ask Elise this one.00:59:42.076 --> 00:59:43.235But A-Team.00:59:44.655 --> 00:59:45.09680s sitcom.00:59:45.677 --> 00:59:46.516You got Hannibal.00:59:47.416 --> 00:59:49.536Mr. T. Mr. T. B.A.00:59:49.577 --> 00:59:50.137Baracus.00:59:50.257 --> 00:59:51.157You got Faceman.00:59:51.277 --> 00:59:54.197And you got Howlin' Mad Murdoch.00:59:54.829 --> 00:59:56.110My problem is I'm not Hannibal.00:59:57.351 --> 00:59:59.291Hannibal is the guy who is in charge.00:59:59.411 --> 01:00:00.231At least you just leave the01:00:00.271 --> 01:00:02.193chat at this point.01:00:02.793 --> 01:00:04.693Hannibal was the guy whose tagline was,01:00:04.733 --> 01:00:06.134I love it when a plan comes together.01:00:08.815 --> 01:00:11.615And I like, but if you watch the 18 movie,01:00:11.856 --> 01:00:13.036I think I'm more face man.01:00:14.336 --> 01:00:15.737But in the, in the 18 movie,01:00:15.956 --> 01:00:17.157face man was trying to01:00:17.217 --> 01:00:18.217always learn from Hannibal01:00:18.257 --> 01:00:19.038to be the next.01:00:19.157 --> 01:00:20.458It's like, I like being Robin.01:00:20.699 --> 01:00:21.259I really do.01:00:22.509 --> 01:00:23.150And some people will be like,01:00:23.190 --> 01:00:24.170why do you always want to be Robin?01:00:24.190 --> 01:00:25.030That's the second fiddle.01:00:25.070 --> 01:00:26.972I go, I just sort of like his position.01:00:27.532 --> 01:00:28.494I never wanted to be the pitcher.01:00:28.773 --> 01:00:29.355I always kind of wanted to01:00:29.375 --> 01:00:30.255be like the first baseman,01:00:30.295 --> 01:00:31.175like next to the guy.01:00:32.938 --> 01:00:33.898I don't know how to lead by01:00:33.958 --> 01:00:34.599being the second.01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:34.980I don't know.01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:36.161Robin can't start.01:00:38.922 --> 01:00:40.324Hawkeye couldn't start the Avengers.01:00:40.463 --> 01:00:41.264It needed to be Captain01:00:41.284 --> 01:00:42.126America or Iron Man.01:00:43.606 --> 01:00:45.027I'm trying to use parallels01:00:45.047 --> 01:00:46.610that Elise would understand.01:00:47.791 --> 01:00:48.291I didn't see them.01:00:48.431 --> 01:00:49.192I don't get that one.01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:51.360Yeah, I want to be Ken, man.01:00:51.380 --> 01:00:52.481You're Ken-uff.01:00:53.181 --> 01:00:53.960You are Ken-uff.01:00:54.581 --> 01:00:56.141What does that mean?01:00:56.322 --> 01:00:57.322Oh, my God.01:00:57.342 --> 01:01:00.882All right,01:01:01.043 --> 01:01:02.184so we've been talking for an hour.01:01:02.603 --> 01:01:05.224I guess I'll do something I rarely do,01:01:05.264 --> 01:01:06.264which is I'll re-listen to01:01:06.304 --> 01:01:07.224an episode because most of01:01:07.264 --> 01:01:08.626the time I record it and then I'm done.01:01:09.405 --> 01:01:10.166But I re-listen to this.01:01:10.945 --> 01:01:12.206What about doing the01:01:12.266 --> 01:01:13.967professional development plan?01:01:14.027 --> 01:01:14.987Yeah, tell me what to do.01:01:15.168 --> 01:01:15.688I'm a doer.01:01:17.061 --> 01:01:19.021do I do well I i have like a01:01:19.081 --> 01:01:20.242short webinar on my website01:01:20.302 --> 01:01:21.382about what professional01:01:21.402 --> 01:01:22.422development planning is and01:01:22.523 --> 01:01:24.804why and then it has like a01:01:24.844 --> 01:01:25.643whole thing that you can01:01:25.664 --> 01:01:26.844work through and then when01:01:26.864 --> 01:01:27.903people get stuck like elise01:01:27.943 --> 01:01:29.565is like thank you template01:01:29.804 --> 01:01:30.945I'm I'm can follow01:01:30.985 --> 01:01:32.164instructions I'm gonna just01:01:32.224 --> 01:01:34.106crush it and other people01:01:34.146 --> 01:01:35.706are like they listen to the01:01:35.746 --> 01:01:36.485whole lecture they get01:01:36.525 --> 01:01:37.927really expired then they01:01:37.947 --> 01:01:38.726start working through the01:01:38.766 --> 01:01:40.407form and they're like help01:01:40.547 --> 01:01:42.288me yeah so I also do that01:01:42.688 --> 01:01:44.288so it's it's a thing you can do and01:01:45.532 --> 01:01:46.134All right.01:01:46.434 --> 01:01:47.275I can't ask for help.01:01:47.335 --> 01:01:48.356And then when it's presented for me,01:01:48.376 --> 01:01:49.157I can't say no to it.01:01:49.657 --> 01:01:51.659That's what we call an ask hole.01:01:53.202 --> 01:01:53.882I didn't come up with that,01:01:53.902 --> 01:01:54.623but I thought it was funny.01:01:55.143 --> 01:01:55.905You ever get people like that?01:01:55.925 --> 01:01:57.025They're asking, asking, asking.01:01:57.045 --> 01:01:57.226I'm like,01:01:57.286 --> 01:01:57.987I'm tired of giving you the01:01:58.068 --> 01:01:58.628answers because you're not01:01:58.668 --> 01:01:59.188doing anything.01:02:00.438 --> 01:02:01.639That's where I had a post01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:02.420recently where I was like,01:02:02.539 --> 01:02:03.780my answer to your problem01:02:03.800 --> 01:02:04.481is not going to change01:02:04.541 --> 01:02:05.342based on your lack of01:02:05.902 --> 01:02:06.963willingness to do it.01:02:07.244 --> 01:02:08.045And that's not trying to say01:02:08.065 --> 01:02:09.206that my answer is the only way.01:02:09.547 --> 01:02:10.306But you asked me for an01:02:10.347 --> 01:02:11.708answer and you didn't do it.01:02:12.108 --> 01:02:12.849Go ask someone else.01:02:12.929 --> 01:02:14.210Like, that's a solution.01:02:14.251 --> 01:02:15.331I'm not going to give you 5001:02:15.331 --> 01:02:17.914only to have you not do 50.01:02:17.914 --> 01:02:19.596If you are still listening,01:02:19.615 --> 01:02:20.577this is longer than an01:02:20.657 --> 01:02:22.338average episode at 62 minutes.01:02:23.916 --> 01:02:24.556I'm curious.01:02:25.177 --> 01:02:26.838Write me a DM or do01:02:26.878 --> 01:02:28.278something to let us know.01:02:28.298 --> 01:02:29.539Because I'd be very curious.01:02:29.838 --> 01:02:30.920Because I always have that01:02:31.019 --> 01:02:32.219internal clock from radio01:02:33.041 --> 01:02:33.681where I was taught.01:02:34.760 --> 01:02:35.782I talked between Foo01:02:35.802 --> 01:02:36.961Fighters and Linkin Park.01:02:36.981 --> 01:02:37.543That was my life.01:02:37.563 --> 01:02:38.682It was like, bang, bang, bang.01:02:39.003 --> 01:02:40.184And it was like, you're going too long.01:02:40.364 --> 01:02:42.625So I'm always like, but I don't know.01:02:43.465 --> 01:02:43.864But also,01:02:43.885 --> 01:02:45.146should I care what the audience thinks?01:02:46.226 --> 01:02:48.166Because really, this is for me.01:02:48.186 --> 01:02:48.907And then the right people01:02:48.947 --> 01:02:49.847will find what we do.01:02:50.208 --> 01:02:51.007You don't like what we do?01:02:51.027 --> 01:02:53.329I can't turn myself into you.01:02:54.266 --> 01:02:55.648Can't go from an orange to a green.01:02:56.288 --> 01:02:57.028That would be disturbing.01:02:57.349 --> 01:02:58.050I wouldn't be able to do it.01:02:58.550 --> 01:02:59.771I've been told that I'm too much.01:03:01.074 --> 01:03:04.177And there are, I don't know if you've seen,01:03:04.197 --> 01:03:05.338gosh, what's her name?01:03:05.418 --> 01:03:05.739Elise.01:03:05.938 --> 01:03:06.659Her name is Elise.01:03:06.820 --> 01:03:07.460Elise Myers.01:03:08.041 --> 01:03:09.523Our content creator.01:03:09.583 --> 01:03:10.925If you don't follow her, you should.01:03:11.304 --> 01:03:12.786But she always says, if I'm too much,01:03:12.867 --> 01:03:13.668then go find less.01:03:15.644 --> 01:03:17.226I've been told I move too01:03:17.286 --> 01:03:19.387fast in meetings on projects.01:03:19.688 --> 01:03:21.588And then I say, I agree with you,01:03:22.150 --> 01:03:23.490but then I'm allowed to say, I'm allowed,01:03:23.550 --> 01:03:24.452I am now allowed to say01:03:24.472 --> 01:03:25.393you're moving too slowly.01:03:25.893 --> 01:03:26.914And both of those things are,01:03:27.014 --> 01:03:27.813and if I can prove it,01:03:27.894 --> 01:03:29.175I just can't make a comeback.01:03:29.195 --> 01:03:29.815Well, if I'm too fast,01:03:30.235 --> 01:03:31.858but I've watched projects01:03:31.978 --> 01:03:33.199fail or be less successful01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:34.840because of the speed at which we moved.01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:37.141I'm not saying mine's perfect,01:03:37.782 --> 01:03:39.943but I'm saying too slow is bad as well.01:03:40.505 --> 01:03:41.846And that bicycle analogy is,01:03:42.465 --> 01:03:43.005Which is like, man,01:03:43.047 --> 01:03:43.907you ride a bike too slow,01:03:43.927 --> 01:03:44.628that thing falls over.01:03:44.648 --> 01:03:45.708You got to have some speed.01:03:46.188 --> 01:03:47.269We got to decide what a good01:03:47.349 --> 01:03:48.210speed is for us.01:03:48.851 --> 01:03:49.811So I get in trouble for that01:03:49.831 --> 01:03:50.952because I'm usually out in front.01:03:52.193 --> 01:03:52.994We'll figure it out.01:03:54.295 --> 01:03:56.315But that was the industry I came in.01:03:56.356 --> 01:03:56.996But I don't think it was an01:03:57.077 --> 01:03:58.056accident I was in radio.01:03:58.597 --> 01:03:59.398I could have been in TV.01:03:59.838 --> 01:04:01.119It took all day to get one01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:01.840three-minute story.01:04:01.860 --> 01:04:02.380I was like, no.01:04:03.041 --> 01:04:03.822Give me something that I can01:04:03.862 --> 01:04:04.782turn a microphone on and01:04:04.802 --> 01:04:07.364it's happening right now.01:04:07.423 --> 01:04:07.965And that's sort of why I01:04:08.025 --> 01:04:09.025like the live stream versus01:04:09.045 --> 01:04:09.905the recorded podcast.01:04:12.418 --> 01:04:13.159But there was no plan.01:04:13.259 --> 01:04:14.840And we just talked for 64 minutes.01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:16.242And I got a lot out of it.01:04:16.362 --> 01:04:17.523And if you did too, awesome.01:04:17.563 --> 01:04:19.405But also, hey, I got a lot out of it.01:04:19.565 --> 01:04:22.048So this is about me, people.01:04:22.068 --> 01:04:23.110All right.01:04:23.190 --> 01:04:23.751Parting shots.01:04:23.771 --> 01:04:24.911What do you want to wrap up with today?01:04:28.456 --> 01:04:28.717I mean,01:04:28.777 --> 01:04:29.918do Rebecca's professional01:04:29.938 --> 01:04:30.759development planning.01:04:31.099 --> 01:04:31.280Yeah.01:04:33.139 --> 01:04:33.960I like how wow.01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:35.121That's something I'm taking away.01:04:35.561 --> 01:04:37.041I think how wow was it for me?01:04:37.262 --> 01:04:38.581Wow, how?01:04:39.161 --> 01:04:40.643Yeah, I think that was it for me.01:04:40.742 --> 01:04:41.884And then also just01:04:41.943 --> 01:04:43.784remembering yourself when01:04:43.804 --> 01:04:44.545you're thinking about01:04:44.605 --> 01:04:46.224developing your professional life.01:04:47.405 --> 01:04:49.226You might need to develop yourself too.01:04:49.507 --> 01:04:50.907Don't forget the you inside01:04:50.967 --> 01:04:51.847of who you want to be.01:04:52.688 --> 01:04:52.927Yeah,01:04:53.068 --> 01:04:54.449I would say how wow for me was the01:04:54.469 --> 01:04:55.148thing I took apart.01:04:55.768 --> 01:04:56.829Wow, how, man?01:04:57.230 --> 01:04:57.550How, how?01:04:58.954 --> 01:05:00.155Thanks for coming to my01:05:00.235 --> 01:05:01.617hour-long therapy session01:05:01.916 --> 01:05:03.077with Rebecca and Elise01:05:03.117 --> 01:05:03.938providing the therapy.01:05:04.257 --> 01:05:04.998But that's what this is.01:05:05.398 --> 01:05:06.018Therapy Barbies.01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:07.219Therapy Barbies.01:05:07.701 --> 01:05:08.460The best conversations01:05:08.501 --> 01:05:09.221happen at happy hour.01:05:09.601 --> 01:05:10.161Thanks for coming on.