The Skills Every Healthcare Provider Needs by 2030!

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All right there.

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Katie Sutton, welcome back to your show.

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Good morning, how are you?

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I'm doing great.

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Last week we talked about,

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what was last week?

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It was four questions on how

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to revamp your career or

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sort of like reframe or

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re-look at your career.

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And now if you've taken

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those and you've done those,

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I did a little bit.

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I think it was a good way to

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look at things because it

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allows you to reverse engineer.

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Because what you would tell

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a seventeen year old, right,

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it's May as we record this next month,

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all these high school kids

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are going to graduate these kids today.

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And that question is going

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to have is going to come up.

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What do you want to be when

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you grow up or what are you

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going to major in school?

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What job are you going to get after that?

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And the funny part is.

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someone said it when I was

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graduating high school,

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which was nineteen ninety seven.

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And I think the world was

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moving pretty fast in ninety seven.

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But it's not even close to

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how fast the world is moving now.

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So the reality is the jobs

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that the class of twenty

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twenty five graduating from

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high school or college are

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going to have five years from now.

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They might not have been invented yet.

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So we talked about this a

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little bit last time, which is.

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Look for the elements or the skills,

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right?

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Because skills are like the

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periodic table of elements

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of whatever it is you are,

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what you like doing, what the world needs,

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what you can get paid for,

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and what you're good at, right?

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That's ikigai, what you love,

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what the world needs,

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what you can get paid for,

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what you're good at.

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So cool.

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But what skills like in what direction?

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So not just saying to a high

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school graduate in twenty

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twenty five or a college

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student in twenty twenty five.

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What classes should you take?

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A lot of times you work at a university.

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Majors did not exist five

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years ago and now they do.

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Right.

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Complete programs,

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complete schools didn't exist.

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So there was a you found this.

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There was a recent report

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from World Economic Forum.

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Forum, I think, yeah.

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And they did this really, I like charts.

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I like reading and everything,

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but like when you give me

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like an image to look at

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and I can sort of parse out what that is.

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And I thought that this

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image was really good.

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So we're gonna flash it on

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the screen if you're

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watching a live stream on YouTube,

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but we'll walk through it.

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And this is, what kind of a chart is this,

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a quadrant?

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I guess, yeah.

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It's a graph that sort of

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highlights on one side

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share of organizations that

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consider skills increasing

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in use by twenty thirty

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across the X axis and across the Y axis.

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They're talking about share

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of organizations that

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consider skills to be core

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skills in twenty twenty five.

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So what it's saying is

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what's important now and

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what will be important later.

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And obviously if you look at that on an X,

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Y graph, the top, as always,

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or most of the time top

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into the right is better in this case.

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So where do you wanna start?

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I've broken the images so we

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can look at them better

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into the four quadrants.

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We gotta save the best for last, right?

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Let's save the future for last.

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What's gonna be better.

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So let's start with out of focus.

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I was just gonna say,

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let's start with the out of focus skills.

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Cause I actually found this

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to be quite interesting.

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Okay, so out of focus skills,

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like the worst possible or

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one of the worst possible skills on here,

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manual dexterity,

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endurance and precision.

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Like people who are good with their hands,

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like that jumped out at me

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because I recently

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renovated my kitchen and

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people who are good with their hands

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Dude,

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they are worth a lot because... So I

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think what this is saying

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too is it says less

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essential now and not

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expected to increase in use.

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I think because this is the

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global economic forum,

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they're looking at that on

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larger scales in terms of

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computing power.

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So that one jumped out at me,

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but I don't want people to say...

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well,

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maybe I shouldn't go back to school

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to be in the trades.

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If that's what you like,

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I would actually encourage

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someone to do that.

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But what else on this

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quadrant of out of focus skills,

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less essential now and not

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inspected to increase in

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use in twenty thirty?

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Anything else jump out?

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Yeah.

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Reading, writing, and mathematics.

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And I honestly think this is

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because of some of the

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things that's in the other

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categories like AI.

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Do you remember when we were

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in school and your teacher was like,

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you're not going to have a

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calculator with you all the time.

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And I'm like, well.

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Listen, Mrs. Shiner, I'm very sorry.

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But in fifth grade,

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you said it's not like

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you're going to have a

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calculator in your pocket.

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And you're right.

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I could have an AirPod in my

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ear and just ask it to do

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the math for me.

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That's true.

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So I'm not advocating for

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students or these kids

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today to understand the concepts of math,

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but like the kid who won

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the math B or the spelling B.

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Cute trick,

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but not necessarily the most

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important thing as we go

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into twenty thirty now.

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Yeah.

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Multilingualism.

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We know that there are I mean,

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the one of the scribes that the company,

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my day job uses a cellist.

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It can change a note into

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sixty different languages

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with a click like a pilot.

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Yeah.

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So it's wild.

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You can put an air pod in

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and have an in person real

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time conversation with

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someone in a different

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language and you can

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understand that person.

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I mean, this is Star Trek level stuff.

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Did you watch Star Trek?

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Were you a dork?

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No, I did not.

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Or a geek?

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I think I was a geek.

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And they would get over the fact that like,

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well,

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how is everybody in space speak English?

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And they solved that by saying,

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we have a universal translator.

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And that was like a cheap

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way of like saying like, okay, well,

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the audience has to understand it.

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So we'll just shoot everything English,

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except,

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That's a thing now.

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In the future,

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you might have that built

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into your house.

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You might just have speakers

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around the house and be

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able to have a conversation.

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So manual dexterity, reading, writing,

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arithmetic, multilingualism.

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This one sort of shocked me.

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You're in education,

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teaching and mentoring.

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I know.

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It was on my list of,

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I highlighted the ones that

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were either surprising or

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like shocking to me.

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And that was one that I had

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highlighted because I

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actually tell students all the time.

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I'm like,

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Hey,

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some of the number one ways to avoid

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burnout is to either get

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mentorship or mentor someone else.

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And so if they're listening to this,

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they're probably going to

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be like Katie said, but again,

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less essential, not expected to increase.

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So that doesn't mean that

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it's not important.

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Right.

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All right.

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So this is the bottom left

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of the graph as Tony Maritato chimes in,

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teach them how to fish.

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So like that,

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I believe he's talking about

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in terms of like math instead of like,

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you know,

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teach them how to do this stuff.

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So I don't know.

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To me, I would expect,

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and I've cheated because

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I've looked at this graph before,

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the ability to communicate

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an idea is going to be up there.

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So this is the bottom left.

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Where do you want to go?

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Where do you want to go now?

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Ooh, let's go to, how about steady?

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Yeah, let's use steady.

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Steady skills.

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So this would be core now,

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but not expected to

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increase in the future.

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So this would be the bottom

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right of the graph, like getting better,

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but not expected to increase.

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Not a whole lot on here that fits there.

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Dependability and attention to detail.

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If you're going to have AI oversight,

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you can...

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I use Grammarly.

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I was never good at grammar,

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and I have a degree in journalism.

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I could get the idea,

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but help me get the fine point.

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Where does the apostrophe go again?

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Possessive?

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I never learned that, and I'm forty-five.

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Oxford comma.

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Nobody really knows.

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Service orientation and customer service,

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though.

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Yeah.

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Steady skill.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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I can use all the technology I want,

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but I still hope that when

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I go to the coffee shop,

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I get great service and

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customer service oriented

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towards the human

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The funny part is as the pendulum swings,

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the funny thing is that's

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how pendulums work, right?

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So some of these things that

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are going to be, quote,

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less important in the next

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five years will likely improve.

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Gary Vee, do you know Gary Vee?

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You don't seem like a person

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who would listen to Gary Vee.

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That doesn't shock me by the

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look on your face.

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Gary V's a bit in your face.

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He said something every day

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and he says a lot of things

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that are ridiculous now and

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then wind up coming true.

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Like he started doing a

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YouTube channel about wine tasting.

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Fifteen years ago and everybody was like,

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that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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And he grew it to a

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multimillion dollar business.

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He said in ten years or five years,

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I bet you'll be paying

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people to take walks with you.

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like human companionship.

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Like there's a library

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somewhere in Europe that you can rent,

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you can take people out,

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like people with various

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backgrounds and spend an hour with them.

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And that's laughable right

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now until you live in a

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world where that isn't commonplace.

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And now the rare thing is

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the valuable thing,

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the thing that was everywhere.

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All right.

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So that's the bottom right.

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I don't think we saw

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anything revolutionary in

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the bottom left and bottom right.

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Bring that back up.

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Which one?

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The bottom right?

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The study skills.

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Yeah.

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Study skills.

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There we go.

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Study skills.

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Because I think, where is it?

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Empathy was somewhere close to that one.

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Empathy and active listening.

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But it might have been on

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the... You know what?

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Also, this might be a pared down version.

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We've looked at a couple of

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versions of this.

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So...

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Where do you think empathy was?

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Was that growing or not growing?

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My guess would be it would be growing.

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But let's look at the top

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left and top right of this graph now.

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Oh, it's on the border.

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It's on the border of core

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skills growing and

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Yeah.

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See,

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so like some of those are like right

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on the border,

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like design and user experience.

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So design and user experience,

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environmental stewardship

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and networks and cybersecurity.

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So these are emerging.

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They're less essential now,

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but expected to increase in use.

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So this will be the top left of the graph.

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Listen,

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everything's going to be built on a

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network.

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So just but just simply

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telling somebody who's

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twenty two years old to go

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get a degree in it or to finalize that,

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like, I don't think that helps enough.

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I think you have to look at

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the core elements of what

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goes into that just because

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it's a safe bet.

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I mean, years ago it was learn how to code,

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learn how to code,

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learn how to code and then.

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Katie,

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you could log on to ChatGPT and code

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an app if you really had

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the desire because it would

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be your coder for you.

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But that wasn't a thing a

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couple months ago for me.

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Environmental stewardship,

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like I'm shocked to see

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something with the

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environment jump on and be

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anywhere because typically

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we've just sort of trashed

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that thing for the longest time.

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Yeah.

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and I know very little about this,

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but the computing power,

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the energy required to run

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these AI systems,

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the water required to cool

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them is not small.

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So if we're using this AI more frequently,

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we've got to find that

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balance because we can't

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just continue to trash everything.

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So yeah,

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so I could see that that's going

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to be up there on that list.

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All right, so top right.

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This is the reason people

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open a graph like this.

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This is the reason we saved

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it for eleven minutes into the episode.

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So what is core now and

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expected to increase in the importance?

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If you've got kids,

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this is the one we're going to say.

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Skate to where the puck is going to be,

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not to where the puck is.

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So here it is.

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Top right.

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Core skills in twenty thirty.

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Does this shock you, Katie Sutton?

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When did you finally

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actually create a ChatGPT

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account after me harping on

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this for you for a long time?

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How long did it take?

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How long have you been playing with AI?

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About six months.

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Okay, good.

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Now that I'm playing with it, I love it.

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I still think you're ahead

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of the largest portion of the curve.

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Really?

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You think?

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Yes.

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There are people who are

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sleeping on this and bitching and saying,

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get off my lawn.

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AI and big data is the

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highest one on this list.

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It is.

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Way up there.

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Yeah.

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Technological literacy.

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Also up there.

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Now,

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here's the funny part or what I take

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from this.

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It doesn't say technological ability.

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It says technological literacy literacy.

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If I don't know how to do something,

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but I'm literate and I can

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go to the library or Google

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something or watch a video,

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I can learn how to now do that thing.

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Still watching is famous.

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I don't know something.

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So it's saying technological literacy.

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It's like,

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I know enough on how to figure it out.

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If you get me,

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if you can show me how to

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tie a fishing line and how

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to bait the hook,

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I'll figure the fish out.

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I'll figure it out.

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Technological literacy is

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huge because these things

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are going to play with each other.

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They already are.

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Like how we produce these podcasts,

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how we're able to create

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images or to write the show

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notes or to set up outlines

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before we record.

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All these things come into play.

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So I think technological literacy,

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AI and big data are the

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number one and number two.

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And then talk about this one to the right.

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Resilience, flexibility and agility.

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That is very high on the

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list in future core skills

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in twenty thirty.

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Why do you think that made it?

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I think that you're going to

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have to be somewhat

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resilient to push forward

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in a technologically advanced world,

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right?

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I mean,

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that's going to be very challenging.

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And again,

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someone like myself who kind of

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fought it kicking and

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screaming and you're like,

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it's going to be fine.

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It's going to be fine.

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you know,

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it isn't something that comes easy.

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You just taught me how to

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work my mic like five

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seconds ago before we got started.

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So, you know,

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but continuously coming back

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to it and trying to wrap

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your brain around it.

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I mean,

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but it's the same thing with what

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we do in education.

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I mean,

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students come in and it's a fire

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hose of information and you

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have to have a certain

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level of grit and

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resiliency to keep coming

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back to class because it

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would just be really easy to be like,

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I'm done.

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Can you tell in the first week of class,

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who's going to be, who's going to have,

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who's going to do well,

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who's going to have some

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problems and maybe who's

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not going to make it like,

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are there like key indicators?

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Even if you like,

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even if you maybe don't

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have words for them, like,

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can you just sort of gut, can you tell?

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I would say within the first

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couple of weeks,

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you can tell who's all in

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and who's not all in.

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And I think that that goes

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back to the whole four

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qualities of a good career.

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Did these people really

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educate themselves on what

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they were getting themselves into.

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We're in physical therapy,

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so it's amazing the amount

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of people who come in and go,

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I didn't know I had to touch feet.

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I didn't know I had to toilet someone.

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So those kind of things,

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that can totally check someone out.

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But it's also very,

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very interesting and really

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cool to see when you have a

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student who gets through, I don't know,

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the first year.

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And they were the person who was like,

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I'm only doing outpatient

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orthopedic sports and all of this.

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And then they find this love

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in acute care rehab

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settings inpatient or the

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people who had a lot of

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life challenges happening

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early in their initial

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educational career and they

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overcome these things and

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you're like that student

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shouldn't have made it this

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far and they find the

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resilience and the grit and

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things like that so yeah

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that's pretty cool to see I

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mean if they're kids

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listening you know earmuff

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it but I was taught you

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can't teach give a

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If you really want this,

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you'll find a way.

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You beg, borrow, and steal, right?

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Adapt, evade, and overcome.

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I think that's Navy SEALs.

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They're just like, you'll figure it out.

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Hell or high water.

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That is a skill that is high

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and to the right now and

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expected to actually

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increase in importance.

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Here's why.

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When I started this podcast in,

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it's nine and a half years ago, right?

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There was nobody.

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And it was both hard to get

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traction because I had to

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explain to people what a podcast was,

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right?

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But there was no competition.

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But people didn't know what it was, right?

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So you fought that.

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And then there was a tipping

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point where enough people

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knew what it was

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but then more people started

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to make podcasts.

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And now Katie Sutton,

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I think that more people

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actually have podcasts than

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don't have podcasts.

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Everybody and their mom has their podcast.

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People have six podcasts, right?

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So why do you think mine does well?

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I'm using air quotes.

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I think mine does well,

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not because I'm the

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smartest guy in the room.

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I'm not.

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I'm never the smartest guy in the room.

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Even full of toddlers,

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I'm never the smartest guy in the room.

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I think it's because of this thing.

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I like it enough to be

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resilient and flexible.

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I have my buddy Drew yelling

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and screaming at me in twenty nineteen,

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twenty twenty.

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You need to do video.

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I don't want to do video.

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I don't want to do video.

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I'm a radio guy.

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It's a podcast, dude.

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Pay attention, bro.

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And he was right.

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Most of the time,

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the thing we resist or we want to resist,

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deep down we know we have to.

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We don't want the icky

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feeling of change and the

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fact that now things are

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getting harder and heavier.

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Most of the time,

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I try to stay away from always,

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most of the time,

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though when you get past

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that you wish you started

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earlier went bigger had

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done it sooner and just did

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the thing just hit the

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start button yeah I knew I

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should have went to video

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earlier what else is in the

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top right that makes um I

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think these are all my

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favorites these are all my

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favorite things by the way

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so I'm excited for my

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future because everything here I love

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Curiosity and lifelong learning, though,

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I think that ties also into

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that resiliency.

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Again,

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just going back to teach them how to

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teach them how to fish and

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the resiliency.

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Well, if you want to be resilient,

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you're going to have to

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continue to ask questions.

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And if you keep asking questions,

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you're going to continue to

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be curious and you're going

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to continue to learn and

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all of this stuff.

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So just with the whole

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Drew talking you into doing video.

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I mean,

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you've been trying to talk me into

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doing video.

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And I'm like, hold on, wait a minute.

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Let me get my feet steady

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and all of that stuff.

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Well, here we are, you know,

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two years later.

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Tony, if he's still watching,

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Tony and I and Dave Kittle

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do a live stream focused on business,

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right?

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Yeah.

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I would say curiosity and

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lifelong learning is on the list.

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Resilience, flexibility and agility,

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not actual physical agility,

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but mental agility.

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Yes.

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This is why if you go into

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Facebook groups in our profession and out,

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you see people bitching and

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moaning about the way it is.

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They want the way it is to be better.

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They have to understand that

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they need to change first.

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The way is never,

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it's don't ask for it to be easier,

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just become better.

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And unfortunately,

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better doesn't happen

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passively most of the time, right?

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So look at all these things combined,

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right?

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Resilience, flexibility, agility,

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curiosity, lifelong learning,

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technological literacy.

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Like these are some like human components.

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Like you're gonna have to keep working,

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bad news.

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Listen,

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when my dad got a job in nineteen

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seventy four,

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he learned something and

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then along the way learned a little bit.

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But the biggest learning came,

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I'm guessing,

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in the first three to five years.

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My dad was a fireman.

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The physics of fire didn't

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really change a lot.

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Fire burn, it go up, right?

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It go out, it can kill you, stay low.

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Now, maybe they, I know this,

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but they invented new tools,

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different types of nozzles,

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different equipment.

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So the little bit of

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learning along the way, but most of it,

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he didn't have to.

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That's one type of job.

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The jobs that we're in are very,

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very human oriented and

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those are messier and

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you're going to have to pivot.

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And if you don't have these skills,

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I don't see you being

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successful in the future in

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most professions.

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Leadership and social influence.

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Yeah.

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You know what I find

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interesting about this is

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some of my original kicking

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and screaming about AI was

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I was afraid it would

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remove that human experience.

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And if you remember me saying,

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it's going to take over your brain,

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you know, um, I did,

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I did say that it might be

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written somewhere too, but, but it didn't,

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you know, when you look at those,

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that list of skills,

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they're still very much

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human element things that

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are in that expected to continue to grow,

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you know, resilience, flexibility,

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curiosity, lifelong learning, leadership,

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and social influence.

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So it's not saying that it's

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removing the human experience.

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As a matter of fact,

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it might be upping the

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human experience a little bit.

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I have, since I bought a house two,

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three years ago,

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I now have acquired tools.

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And this shocks a lot of

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people that know me,

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that I probably should

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never have a power tool in my hand.

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But I've gotten better.

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I've learned to use them.

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I've got a chainsaw outside in the shed.

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In the hands of my buddy,

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it's gonna be a better tool.

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More efficient, faster, better.

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I'm pretty okay now.

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Me three years ago was horrible.

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I think of any,

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like the stuff we're talking about now,

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playing with ChatGPT,

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the thing that will come

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out in six months to make

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all of our eyes spin again, right?

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It's not the tool that's gonna change it.

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In the hands of someone who is willing,

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ready, willing,

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and able to learn how to use it better,

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that person will succeed.

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That person will have a

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smoother path in life.

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But you got to put the work in.

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Like these are common patterns.

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You could say the same thing,

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but for a computer back in

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nineteen eighty three,

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computers are going to take over.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's the person who knows

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how to use that and is

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willing to put the time,

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effort and money into it.

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Talent management, systems thinking,

00:21:48.469 --> 00:21:49.369
motivation and

00:21:49.450 --> 00:21:51.031
self-awareness also make sense.

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the list of core skills that

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are important now and

00:21:54.192 --> 00:21:54.932
getting more important.

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What jumps out at you from

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those three remaining?

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Talent management, systems thinking,

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and motivation and self-awareness.

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Motivation and self-awareness.

00:22:03.076 --> 00:22:04.976
So we were just talking

00:22:05.016 --> 00:22:06.196
about some of the big

00:22:06.396 --> 00:22:07.416
Facebook groups that you

00:22:07.436 --> 00:22:08.777
get into and people whining

00:22:08.817 --> 00:22:09.478
and complaining.

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Well, first of all,

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have you done any work to

00:22:13.898 --> 00:22:15.739
self-assess where you are?

00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:18.700
If it's not working,

00:22:18.900 --> 00:22:20.080
do some self-assessment,

00:22:20.441 --> 00:22:21.701
figure out where you need to be,

00:22:22.040 --> 00:22:23.901
start pulling a seat up to that table.

00:22:24.741 --> 00:22:26.842
So I always tell you that I

00:22:26.882 --> 00:22:29.923
get frustrated when PTAs kind of get like,

00:22:29.982 --> 00:22:30.962
oh, well, you know,

00:22:31.163 --> 00:22:32.942
just PTA and nobody listens

00:22:32.962 --> 00:22:34.483
to me and I don't have a voice and blah,

00:22:34.503 --> 00:22:34.824
blah, blah.

00:22:34.864 --> 00:22:36.203
And I see it the opposite.

00:22:36.223 --> 00:22:37.084
I'm like, well,

00:22:37.144 --> 00:22:37.824
I'm just going to keep

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showing up places where

00:22:38.944 --> 00:22:39.924
PTAs aren't going.

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And I'm going to ask the questions.

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And so far,

00:22:42.965 --> 00:22:44.605
I've not been kicked out of any space.

00:22:45.586 --> 00:22:46.666
They've all been like, come on.

00:22:46.987 --> 00:22:47.467
Come on in.

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Take a seat.

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So just pull the chair up.

00:22:50.788 --> 00:22:52.009
There's a few situations

00:22:52.048 --> 00:22:53.449
that I like to point out

00:22:54.690 --> 00:22:56.769
where people's bitching.

00:22:57.510 --> 00:22:58.211
I mean, I don't know.

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When's bitching productive?

00:23:01.031 --> 00:23:02.092
I'm not saying I don't do it.

00:23:02.412 --> 00:23:03.252
I get pissed a lot.

00:23:03.272 --> 00:23:03.913
We all do.

00:23:03.932 --> 00:23:04.192
Yeah.

00:23:04.353 --> 00:23:06.054
And, you know, I was told long ago,

00:23:06.634 --> 00:23:07.314
you're allowed to bitch for

00:23:07.334 --> 00:23:08.255
twenty four hours and then

00:23:08.275 --> 00:23:09.095
you got to put your your

00:23:09.154 --> 00:23:10.675
boots back on and like start solving.

00:23:10.836 --> 00:23:11.695
No one's coming to you.

00:23:11.895 --> 00:23:12.717
Did I ever tell you the boat

00:23:12.757 --> 00:23:14.557
story or the boat like a little analogy?

00:23:14.877 --> 00:23:15.897
It's one of these moments in

00:23:15.938 --> 00:23:17.259
my life that like I still remember.

00:23:17.318 --> 00:23:18.939
So I was training to be a

00:23:18.999 --> 00:23:20.359
beach lifeguard for a summer.

00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:21.980
I was going to be an ocean lifeguard.

00:23:22.020 --> 00:23:22.901
I was in North Myrtle Beach,

00:23:22.941 --> 00:23:23.641
South Carolina,

00:23:23.981 --> 00:23:25.061
one of the best summers of my life.

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And they did like a week of like training.

00:23:28.103 --> 00:23:29.185
And it was awesome, right?

00:23:29.287 --> 00:23:30.229
They're flinging us around

00:23:30.249 --> 00:23:32.394
on jet skis and we're doing

00:23:32.435 --> 00:23:33.679
the Baywatch thing and whatever.

00:23:33.699 --> 00:23:34.000
It was awesome.

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Yeah, yeah.

00:23:35.900 --> 00:23:37.161
one day we were doing boat

00:23:37.221 --> 00:23:37.961
rescues and they were

00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:39.362
showing us like and they

00:23:39.461 --> 00:23:40.782
knew we were like kid they

00:23:40.803 --> 00:23:41.542
weren't gonna let us drive

00:23:41.583 --> 00:23:42.824
the boat but like they had

00:23:42.844 --> 00:23:43.604
to train us on it so they

00:23:43.624 --> 00:23:44.464
did plus they wanted to

00:23:44.505 --> 00:23:45.224
drive the boat too the

00:23:45.244 --> 00:23:46.826
lifeguards right so one day

00:23:46.846 --> 00:23:47.906
we're doing boats and jet

00:23:47.926 --> 00:23:49.126
skis and we're jumping off

00:23:49.166 --> 00:23:50.107
stuff and we're just you

00:23:50.127 --> 00:23:50.968
know otherwise messing

00:23:50.988 --> 00:23:51.729
around just learning this

00:23:51.749 --> 00:23:53.169
stuff the next day we're

00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:54.150
out on the beach it's six

00:23:54.190 --> 00:23:55.790
thirty in the morning and

00:23:55.871 --> 00:23:56.932
the instructor I'm not

00:23:56.951 --> 00:23:57.912
gonna try to do the accent

00:23:57.991 --> 00:23:59.532
but he had a south carolina accent

00:24:00.093 --> 00:24:02.454
And he points to a buoy that was like,

00:24:02.755 --> 00:24:04.916
I don't know, a thousand yards offshore.

00:24:05.376 --> 00:24:06.377
And you could kind of see it.

00:24:07.278 --> 00:24:07.679
And he's like,

00:24:07.818 --> 00:24:09.941
the goal of this exercise is

00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:11.342
go touch the buoy and come back.

00:24:13.222 --> 00:24:14.765
And one of the kids from yesterday said,

00:24:16.145 --> 00:24:16.826
where's the boat?

00:24:18.667 --> 00:24:19.909
And this guy just looked at it and goes,

00:24:20.709 --> 00:24:21.289
you're the boat.

00:24:21.769 --> 00:24:22.351
Start swimming.

00:24:23.530 --> 00:24:25.432
So like that stupid little thing,

00:24:25.573 --> 00:24:26.153
he did not...

00:24:27.028 --> 00:24:28.130
It was not arranged to be a

00:24:28.150 --> 00:24:30.796
life lesson for me, but that's my line.

00:24:31.056 --> 00:24:33.701
When it's like, you want that sale,

00:24:34.102 --> 00:24:37.108
I want that next milestone, that marker.

00:24:38.003 --> 00:24:39.045
I got news for you.

00:24:39.464 --> 00:24:40.586
There's no boat coming.

00:24:40.645 --> 00:24:41.826
Nobody's coming to save you.

00:24:42.386 --> 00:24:43.326
So when I look at Facebook

00:24:43.346 --> 00:24:44.508
groups and people are bitching,

00:24:44.968 --> 00:24:48.130
I hear Monty, who was the head,

00:24:48.269 --> 00:24:49.471
one of the lifeguard instructors,

00:24:49.590 --> 00:24:50.471
I hear his voice going,

00:24:51.011 --> 00:24:51.893
all these people don't,

00:24:51.932 --> 00:24:53.032
they're standing on shore

00:24:53.113 --> 00:24:54.054
waiting for the boat.

00:24:54.954 --> 00:24:56.536
That buoy is not getting closer.

00:24:56.576 --> 00:24:57.736
It's only getting further.

00:24:58.717 --> 00:25:00.317
And they don't know.

00:25:01.205 --> 00:25:04.367
They're the boat, but they're, they, they,

00:25:04.387 --> 00:25:04.708
they don't.

00:25:04.907 --> 00:25:05.248
Yeah.

00:25:05.548 --> 00:25:06.169
And they don't recognize

00:25:06.189 --> 00:25:07.009
that they have the skills

00:25:07.028 --> 00:25:08.430
and the tools available to them.

00:25:09.190 --> 00:25:10.171
Some of us have more money

00:25:10.191 --> 00:25:11.192
and more connections and

00:25:11.592 --> 00:25:13.353
all that stuff sucks, dude.

00:25:13.373 --> 00:25:14.512
Some of us have bigger arms

00:25:14.532 --> 00:25:16.615
and bigger hands and we can swim faster.

00:25:17.474 --> 00:25:18.335
Start swimming now.

00:25:18.474 --> 00:25:18.954
I don't know.

00:25:19.035 --> 00:25:21.895
Like use what you have as much as you can.

00:25:22.056 --> 00:25:24.576
So if I'm renovating the

00:25:24.616 --> 00:25:25.616
downstairs room to be more

00:25:25.636 --> 00:25:27.218
of an office and like I've

00:25:27.258 --> 00:25:29.157
seen people do like neon lights,

00:25:29.178 --> 00:25:30.618
like custom neon lights and stuff.

00:25:31.118 --> 00:25:32.358
And you're the boat is one

00:25:32.398 --> 00:25:33.098
of those things for me.

00:25:33.159 --> 00:25:35.339
I was like, I don't have any tattoos,

00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:37.039
but if I got one, that might be it.

00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:38.020
It's a reminder to me.

00:25:38.040 --> 00:25:38.340
It's like,

00:25:38.601 --> 00:25:40.421
I don't care what situation you're in.

00:25:40.441 --> 00:25:41.221
This has nothing to do with

00:25:41.261 --> 00:25:42.662
water or buoys or boats.

00:25:43.041 --> 00:25:44.001
This has to do with get your

00:25:44.021 --> 00:25:44.603
shit together.

00:25:44.923 --> 00:25:45.123
Yeah.

00:25:45.343 --> 00:25:45.782
You're the boat.

00:25:46.874 --> 00:25:48.415
So motivation, self-awareness.

00:25:49.196 --> 00:25:50.538
Motivation, self-awareness.

00:25:50.617 --> 00:25:51.779
These are all things that are important.

00:25:53.821 --> 00:25:55.063
And then systems thinking.

00:25:55.223 --> 00:25:56.464
I don't even know the official term.

00:25:57.066 --> 00:25:58.426
My guess is if you can

00:25:58.507 --> 00:25:59.769
understand how two things

00:25:59.808 --> 00:26:00.469
can play together.

00:26:01.532 --> 00:26:02.992
Like we're recording,

00:26:03.012 --> 00:26:04.473
we're doing a live stream right now.

00:26:04.773 --> 00:26:05.693
That's one system.

00:26:05.993 --> 00:26:06.794
Well, when we're done,

00:26:06.874 --> 00:26:07.315
I'm going to get a

00:26:07.335 --> 00:26:08.875
transcript of this episode.

00:26:09.234 --> 00:26:11.355
I can then put that in chat GPT and say,

00:26:11.675 --> 00:26:13.536
what's the best title for

00:26:13.556 --> 00:26:14.856
this episode to get the

00:26:14.916 --> 00:26:17.037
most people to click on it on YouTube?

00:26:17.457 --> 00:26:19.198
So that's using two different systems.

00:26:19.357 --> 00:26:20.137
I might be wrong,

00:26:20.218 --> 00:26:20.738
but that's my

00:26:20.778 --> 00:26:21.618
interpretation of just

00:26:21.638 --> 00:26:22.959
seeing two words together that I know.

00:26:23.538 --> 00:26:23.999
Systems things.

00:26:24.219 --> 00:26:24.959
How do these things play?

00:26:24.979 --> 00:26:25.400
We don't have the

00:26:25.420 --> 00:26:26.519
definitions with these though.

00:26:27.355 --> 00:26:28.115
I'm sure they're there,

00:26:28.395 --> 00:26:29.636
but Jimmy doesn't look at words,

00:26:29.757 --> 00:26:30.798
I look at pictures because

00:26:30.817 --> 00:26:33.400
I'm a big dumb animal.

00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:34.820
Do you bring things like

00:26:34.901 --> 00:26:36.702
this image and this report

00:26:36.762 --> 00:26:38.243
into the classroom with your students?

00:26:39.305 --> 00:26:39.924
Yeah, sometimes.

00:26:41.897 --> 00:26:43.759
What would you wrap up with that?

00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.060
How would you wrap up with

00:26:45.080 --> 00:26:46.981
your students after you said, listen,

00:26:47.082 --> 00:26:48.123
I want you, this is, you know,

00:26:48.203 --> 00:26:49.064
extra credit homework,

00:26:49.104 --> 00:26:49.865
or this is something I want

00:26:49.904 --> 00:26:51.205
you to do that's outside the syllabus.

00:26:51.507 --> 00:26:52.406
But it's important because

00:26:52.748 --> 00:26:53.788
you are students in this

00:26:53.848 --> 00:26:55.049
moment right now in history.

00:26:55.770 --> 00:26:56.892
How would you sort of sum up

00:26:57.152 --> 00:26:57.853
why they should pay

00:26:57.873 --> 00:26:59.193
attention to a report like this?

00:27:00.285 --> 00:27:00.484
Well,

00:27:00.944 --> 00:27:03.685
I think because where did we see the

00:27:03.705 --> 00:27:04.846
manual dexterity,

00:27:05.026 --> 00:27:06.166
endurance and precision?

00:27:06.287 --> 00:27:08.207
It was down in the out of focus,

00:27:08.386 --> 00:27:08.866
I believe.

00:27:10.087 --> 00:27:12.448
You know, in a PT, PTA program,

00:27:12.827 --> 00:27:13.308
what do we do?

00:27:14.169 --> 00:27:15.469
We teach them to work with

00:27:15.489 --> 00:27:18.269
their hands the whole time.

00:27:18.869 --> 00:27:20.009
So it's tons of labs.

00:27:20.029 --> 00:27:20.691
They're working with their

00:27:20.711 --> 00:27:21.990
hands over and over and over again.

00:27:22.330 --> 00:27:23.990
So my challenge to them would be,

00:27:24.432 --> 00:27:24.692
all right,

00:27:24.832 --> 00:27:25.852
I want you to look up there at

00:27:26.112 --> 00:27:28.113
that list of core skills in

00:27:28.153 --> 00:27:29.613
twenty twenty or twenty thirty.

00:27:30.184 --> 00:27:31.526
that are expected to increase.

00:27:32.086 --> 00:27:33.887
And what creative things can

00:27:33.928 --> 00:27:35.689
we do to make our lives

00:27:35.828 --> 00:27:39.531
easier in the clinic within that bracket?

00:27:39.551 --> 00:27:40.833
Because we're so focused on

00:27:41.272 --> 00:27:42.294
all of the hands-on and manual.

00:27:42.334 --> 00:27:42.973
And that's fine.

00:27:42.993 --> 00:27:43.775
That's what they're going to

00:27:43.795 --> 00:27:46.155
need to be a good PT and PTA.

00:27:47.176 --> 00:27:48.438
But there's a lot of other

00:27:48.478 --> 00:27:49.479
things that happen in our

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.259
day-to-day job that are the

00:27:51.299 --> 00:27:53.401
things that we don't like, documentation,

00:27:53.942 --> 00:27:55.303
billing, that kind of thing.

00:27:55.851 --> 00:27:56.952
But if you can use systems

00:27:56.992 --> 00:27:59.175
thinking and technological literacy,

00:27:59.916 --> 00:28:01.138
like again, my day job,

00:28:01.179 --> 00:28:03.182
we have an AI scribe and people like,

00:28:03.201 --> 00:28:04.344
I don't know if I'll switch.

00:28:04.523 --> 00:28:05.184
And I just look at these

00:28:05.204 --> 00:28:06.487
people and I don't,

00:28:06.507 --> 00:28:07.888
I do not try to convince anymore.

00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:09.480
I'm just sitting there.

00:28:09.861 --> 00:28:11.320
I'm old enough now to say,

00:28:11.641 --> 00:28:13.041
you do realize that there's

00:28:13.102 --> 00:28:14.863
not a person in three years

00:28:14.883 --> 00:28:15.482
that's not going to be

00:28:15.563 --> 00:28:16.203
using one of these.

00:28:17.044 --> 00:28:17.963
And maybe I'm even wrong in

00:28:18.003 --> 00:28:18.964
terms of saying three years.

00:28:19.204 --> 00:28:20.204
It's probably going to be sooner.

00:28:20.605 --> 00:28:22.066
But these people who are

00:28:22.086 --> 00:28:23.186
going to hang on and be the

00:28:23.247 --> 00:28:25.347
last bastion of writing

00:28:25.407 --> 00:28:26.428
manually because they want

00:28:26.448 --> 00:28:27.669
to prove that they're going

00:28:27.689 --> 00:28:28.729
to do it old school way.

00:28:29.630 --> 00:28:31.351
I mean, I'll date myself again.

00:28:32.608 --> 00:28:34.749
I edited radio commercials

00:28:35.250 --> 00:28:36.509
with a razor blade and

00:28:36.569 --> 00:28:38.230
scotch tape and reel to reel.

00:28:38.269 --> 00:28:38.910
Now I was like,

00:28:39.269 --> 00:28:40.830
that was the very end of that.

00:28:40.891 --> 00:28:42.131
Like immediately while I was

00:28:42.151 --> 00:28:43.250
learning that I was learning digital.

00:28:45.191 --> 00:28:46.151
And I learned it because the

00:28:46.230 --> 00:28:46.991
old guy there said,

00:28:47.132 --> 00:28:48.632
this is the right way to do it.

00:28:48.711 --> 00:28:49.612
And I remember thinking, okay,

00:28:49.652 --> 00:28:50.811
if he says it, I'll do it.

00:28:51.172 --> 00:28:51.813
And then I played with a

00:28:51.873 --> 00:28:52.932
digital editor and I was like,

00:28:53.053 --> 00:28:53.573
I'm gonna need you to

00:28:53.633 --> 00:28:54.932
explain why this is better.

00:28:55.472 --> 00:28:56.353
And it was better because it

00:28:56.373 --> 00:28:57.433
was nostalgic to him.

00:28:57.634 --> 00:28:58.314
And that was the way,

00:28:58.334 --> 00:28:59.114
and he didn't wanna let go

00:28:59.134 --> 00:28:59.713
of that change.

00:29:01.308 --> 00:29:02.490
I know plenty of older

00:29:02.529 --> 00:29:05.251
people who are very adaptable to change.

00:29:05.491 --> 00:29:06.673
This is not an age thing.

00:29:06.813 --> 00:29:08.574
This is a mentality thing.

00:29:09.513 --> 00:29:10.595
This does not be like me

00:29:10.615 --> 00:29:11.756
trying to be anti-ageist,

00:29:11.855 --> 00:29:12.836
which I would like to be.

00:29:13.136 --> 00:29:14.998
But if you're seeing this

00:29:15.117 --> 00:29:17.179
old person not able to adapt,

00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.121
it's because they have a crappy mindset.

00:29:19.980 --> 00:29:20.701
These things are not

00:29:21.182 --> 00:29:23.022
correlation and causation.

00:29:23.403 --> 00:29:25.325
And that's fine, too,

00:29:25.365 --> 00:29:26.806
if someone just doesn't want to learn.

00:29:26.846 --> 00:29:27.105
Yeah.

00:29:27.645 --> 00:29:28.026
Yeah, I mean,

00:29:28.105 --> 00:29:29.507
I'll date myself back in

00:29:29.586 --> 00:29:30.446
nineteen ninety nine.

00:29:30.487 --> 00:29:31.587
I was an aide in a physical

00:29:31.627 --> 00:29:32.607
therapy department and I

00:29:32.627 --> 00:29:34.348
would physically call every

00:29:34.388 --> 00:29:36.048
patient to remind them of

00:29:36.068 --> 00:29:38.450
their appointment tomorrow or whatever.

00:29:38.789 --> 00:29:40.250
Well, what happens now?

00:29:40.854 --> 00:29:42.755
You're getting an auto text message.

00:29:43.455 --> 00:29:45.938
We have the ability to do auto, uh,

00:29:46.137 --> 00:29:47.199
AI phone calls now.

00:29:47.358 --> 00:29:48.859
And these are not like pipe dreams.

00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:50.840
These are various accessible to people.

00:29:51.402 --> 00:29:52.722
In fact, if you're not using them,

00:29:52.903 --> 00:29:54.503
I question your ability to

00:29:54.824 --> 00:29:55.765
do the things on the top

00:29:55.805 --> 00:29:56.465
right-hand corner,

00:29:56.905 --> 00:29:58.446
which is systems thinking.

00:29:59.307 --> 00:30:00.648
Resilience and flexibility.

00:30:00.729 --> 00:30:01.730
Like you aren't,

00:30:02.829 --> 00:30:04.270
you aren't taking advantage

00:30:04.310 --> 00:30:05.853
of the tools you're waiting for the,

00:30:06.053 --> 00:30:07.314
for the buoy to come to you

00:30:07.394 --> 00:30:08.433
instead of you being the boat.

00:30:08.453 --> 00:30:08.535
Yeah.

00:30:09.701 --> 00:30:10.721
All right, we're at the half hour mark.

00:30:10.741 --> 00:30:13.585
What's your parting shot?

00:30:14.005 --> 00:30:14.184
Well,

00:30:14.385 --> 00:30:16.548
I guess my parting shot would be just

00:30:16.587 --> 00:30:20.672
to embrace, embrace the change.

00:30:22.012 --> 00:30:24.455
I have been very forward

00:30:24.576 --> 00:30:26.417
that I was fighting some of

00:30:26.458 --> 00:30:27.479
the change myself.

00:30:27.939 --> 00:30:29.760
And now that I have embraced the change,

00:30:30.244 --> 00:30:32.326
I find that it makes my life a lot easier.

00:30:32.686 --> 00:30:34.608
So instead of sitting here

00:30:34.709 --> 00:30:36.029
racking my brain about a

00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:38.751
specific task I have to do, I usually say,

00:30:38.852 --> 00:30:39.853
is that something I can run

00:30:39.893 --> 00:30:41.714
through chat GPT and make

00:30:41.734 --> 00:30:42.996
my life easier and save me

00:30:43.096 --> 00:30:44.557
an hour of time so I can

00:30:44.596 --> 00:30:45.538
move on to something else?

00:30:45.978 --> 00:30:48.539
So if you just learn to look

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:49.961
at this core skills list in

00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:51.883
twenty thirty and not go, well,

00:30:51.903 --> 00:30:54.164
that stinks, but instead say,

00:30:54.644 --> 00:30:56.586
in what ways can I start to embrace this?

00:30:56.926 --> 00:30:57.647
I think it's going to make

00:30:57.667 --> 00:30:58.848
everybody's lives easier.

00:30:59.413 --> 00:31:00.734
I agree.

00:31:00.994 --> 00:31:01.734
I was going to have a very

00:31:01.775 --> 00:31:03.256
boring parting shot,

00:31:03.276 --> 00:31:04.355
and then you made me think of something.

00:31:05.195 --> 00:31:05.997
Bruce Lee,

00:31:06.356 --> 00:31:07.737
for the younger people in the audience,

00:31:08.037 --> 00:31:09.857
was an actor, martial arts expert,

00:31:10.298 --> 00:31:11.338
left the world a little too soon.

00:31:11.358 --> 00:31:13.299
I do know Bruce Lee.

00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.359
Was killed accidentally on a movie set,

00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:15.881
ironically.

00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:17.800
But he had a great quote, which was,

00:31:17.941 --> 00:31:18.602
be water.

00:31:19.201 --> 00:31:20.082
And his whole idea was like,

00:31:20.102 --> 00:31:21.022
you can fight water.

00:31:21.843 --> 00:31:23.625
it's hard like fighting

00:31:23.664 --> 00:31:24.385
through water if you've

00:31:24.405 --> 00:31:25.666
ever tried to swim fighting

00:31:25.707 --> 00:31:26.788
the water do you're gonna

00:31:26.807 --> 00:31:28.931
lose so his his whole idea

00:31:28.951 --> 00:31:29.852
would be water which is

00:31:29.872 --> 00:31:31.532
like work with it right

00:31:31.733 --> 00:31:32.914
understand understand what

00:31:32.954 --> 00:31:33.976
environment you're in if

00:31:34.016 --> 00:31:35.397
it's water and figure out

00:31:35.417 --> 00:31:36.077
how to move through it

00:31:36.638 --> 00:31:37.740
maybe running trying to run

00:31:37.779 --> 00:31:38.941
through water isn't going to work

00:31:39.541 --> 00:31:41.242
But if I get into a good swimming position,

00:31:41.282 --> 00:31:42.423
I can move through water,

00:31:42.463 --> 00:31:43.683
work with the water.

00:31:44.023 --> 00:31:44.865
Work with it.

00:31:44.904 --> 00:31:46.865
The water in this scenario,

00:31:46.905 --> 00:31:47.967
on this chart anyway,

00:31:48.007 --> 00:31:48.926
looking towards the future

00:31:48.967 --> 00:31:50.387
is all the different ways

00:31:50.428 --> 00:31:52.108
the world is turbulent and

00:31:52.148 --> 00:31:53.750
waves are coming and it's changing.

00:31:54.289 --> 00:31:55.069
Yeah.

00:31:55.130 --> 00:31:55.471
I mean,

00:31:55.510 --> 00:31:57.111
have you ever done whitewater rafting?

00:31:57.692 --> 00:31:58.112
I have.

00:31:58.511 --> 00:31:58.912
Yeah.

00:31:58.991 --> 00:31:59.932
And what do they tell you if

00:31:59.972 --> 00:32:00.732
you fall out of the boat?

00:32:00.972 --> 00:32:01.753
Don't stand up.

00:32:02.213 --> 00:32:02.693
Correct.

00:32:02.733 --> 00:32:03.694
You go with the flow.

00:32:04.234 --> 00:32:04.434
Yeah.

00:32:04.515 --> 00:32:04.795
Right.

00:32:04.815 --> 00:32:05.715
So if you stand up,

00:32:06.056 --> 00:32:07.396
you're going to get hurt.

00:32:08.031 --> 00:32:11.273
You're going to get your ass kicked.

00:32:11.294 --> 00:32:11.515
Yeah.

00:32:11.575 --> 00:32:11.775
All right.

00:32:11.795 --> 00:32:13.215
We're back next week, same time,

00:32:13.516 --> 00:32:17.578
but you can take a listen to your podcast,

00:32:17.679 --> 00:32:18.799
PTA Plus Podcast,

00:32:19.259 --> 00:32:20.701
one of the very few focused

00:32:21.021 --> 00:32:22.923
hosted by PT for PTAs.

00:32:24.663 --> 00:32:27.906
And you're also headed to the future of

00:32:29.019 --> 00:32:32.161
Rehab Therapy, F-O-R-T, the APTA event.

00:32:32.181 --> 00:32:35.162
Drew Contreras is spearheading that.

00:32:35.363 --> 00:32:38.403
Future of Rehab Therapy Summit.

00:32:38.483 --> 00:32:39.464
It's a lot to say.

00:32:40.045 --> 00:32:41.246
We'll put the link in the

00:32:41.286 --> 00:32:42.006
show notes for that.

00:32:42.066 --> 00:32:43.527
That's going to be Washington, D.C.

00:32:44.186 --> 00:32:45.347
A lot of these things and

00:32:45.387 --> 00:32:47.148
these skills that are being

00:32:47.189 --> 00:32:48.549
talked about right now will

00:32:48.569 --> 00:32:50.371
be on display in full view.

00:32:51.131 --> 00:32:52.392
So check out APTA,

00:32:52.852 --> 00:32:54.952
their website for Future Rehab Summit.

00:32:55.452 --> 00:32:56.034
Katie Sutton.