March 8, 2024
From Failure to Success (f Mathu Hanson)

From SUCK to PSYCHED with Mathu Hanson
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what's the I was gonna say
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what's the worst that could
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happen but let's say what's
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the best right I love this
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so we were going to record
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an episode and I sort of
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jumped on the screen here
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with matthew it's
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pronounced matthew right
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It's actually Matho, but as I get older,
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I'm just kind of letting it
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go a little bit.
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No, that's why I like to ask.
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It's spelled different,
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and I like different.
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I jumped on the screen with Matho,
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and I was like, I don't know, man.
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This feels like a live stream.
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And I don't know.
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My Spidey sense went off.
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So I'm like this.
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And then I asked you a cool question,
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which is a question,
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but an indirect question was like,
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all right,
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what's the title of this live stream?
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You know what?
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Don't give me the title.
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Just sort of give me the
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things you're passionate about.
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And you were like,
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you started saying words.
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And I wrote the title,
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which is from suck to
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psyched lessons for new
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grad PTs with Matho.
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Wow.
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That's good.
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I like that.
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So before we hit a live stream,
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you were sort of talking about how you,
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I mean, you almost got fired.
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You did get fired or there was,
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I love that.
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Cause in any story,
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there's gotta be tension.
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There's gotta be the chance of failure.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I had a definite chance of failure.
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Um, so yeah, no, like I was saying, I was,
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um,
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I was on the verge of getting fired.
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I started working at this
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place and I wasn't really
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sure about myself.
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I had been a student.
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I was a student there previously,
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but started working at this place.
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I had no idea what I was doing.
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I was my,
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my first gig out of school was to
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work in the traumatic brain injury unit.
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And I walk on the floor.
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They're like,
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this is where you're going to be.
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My whole goal was to get on
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the spinal cord injury unit because
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my passion was just about
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spinal cord injury.
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I was, I was,
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that wasn't what I was going to do.
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And I get on this floor and
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they take me to the brain injury unit.
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And I see this guy at the time, you know,
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I didn't know what it was.
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It was a craniotomy.
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And I have no idea what that is.
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All I see is this, you know,
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skull is open and, you know,
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I see his brain throbbing
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underneath his skin.
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And I'm saying to myself,
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what the hell did I just do?
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Right.
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I drove all the way from Miami to,
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to Los Angeles to come and
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work at this place,
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and I have no idea what I'm doing.
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Wow.
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And I spent the better part
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of three months kind of in the dark,
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right?
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I didn't want anybody to
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know that I didn't know
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what the hell I was doing.
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And I always say that I can
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always tell when a
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clinician is struggling
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because what they do is
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they essentially hide.
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They hide from everybody,
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and they're not really sure
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how to take that next step.
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And I'll never forget it.
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I was flying back to Miami
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for my birthday and my
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manager brought me into the
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office and I didn't think
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about it while this was all happening,
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but I started doing the calculus.
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My back was placed to the back wall.
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There was a table between me
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and them and the room door.
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And I'm thinking, oh my gosh,
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what's going on?
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And I started doing the calculus.
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I'm like, well,
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they think I'm going to get
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mad or something.
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I'm like, okay, cool.
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And they proceeded to
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basically tell me in great
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summary that I suck.
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And when you get back,
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you are essentially going
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to have to either perform
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or we're going to basically
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kick you out the door.
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And for those of you who know that story,
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I was sitting there thinking to myself,
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oh, shoot,
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I'm going to get fired from this place.
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And, you know, world famous place,
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like you're walking around
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and people who wrote this textbook,
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that sort of thing.
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And I'm like, okay, this will suck.
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This is like the worst thing
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to put on your resume.
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I need to go and hide.
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So I went home to Miami, came back,
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sat down to do a follow-up
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meeting because I was
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supposed to sign the disciplinary action,
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my 90-day review or whatever, right?
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And a friend of mine said, you know,
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you have these things that
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she called God moments.
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right?
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This moment where you just kind of,
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you're losing your own
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self-understanding of what's happening,
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and you just get into this epiphany.
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And in that moment,
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I basically said that I sat
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here for 90 days, essentially,
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and you watched me miss on
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every single patient that I touched,
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and you allowed that to happen.
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And that's bad for the patient, and I...
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For me,
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that's my regret in time is that
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those patients for the 90
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days preceding that time failed,
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essentially.
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And here I am walking into the room,
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and you're saying that I suck for 90 days,
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and you were okay with that,
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but at the same time,
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this is where this happened.
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I knew I was struggling, but at the time,
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I think what happens is
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that you don't know how to speak up,
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where to speak up, who to speak to,
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where to go,
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and how to have those kind of
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conversations.
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And essentially,
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I put the onus back on them.
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And I essentially said, if I fail,
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it's because you failed me first.
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And your patients were at risk.
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Not me.
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I'm insignificant.
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Your patients failed first.
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And I essentially asked for a mentor.
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And my mentor,
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this lady saved my life and kind of
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set the foundation for my career.
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And, um, it's just, just an amazing lady.
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She's a professor.
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I don't know if we call names here, but,
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um, uh, Karen Edo, wherever you are,
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shout out to you.
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But, um, listen,
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she came in and she sat me down.
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She essentially said, you do suck.
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Reinforce my, reinforce my deepest,
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darkest feelings.
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And then, but hold on, hold on.
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She let the cat out of the bag.
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She's like, okay, this is where we are.
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Yeah.
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I mean,
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she observed me for like a day or two,
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and she was my selected mentor.
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And she basically said,
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you don't even look like
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you like what you're doing.
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And she then gave me kind of
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the charge of what this all meant, right?
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What does it mean to be in this role,
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taking care of patients,
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doing the things that you're doing,
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as opposed to just
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I'm here to show up and do a job.
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And through that, those conversations,
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those, you know,
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those periods where she
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mentored me and kind of
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gave me the roadmap,
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I got a better
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understanding of what my
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responsibility was, what my charge was,
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how to go about approaching
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a patient that you don't
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understand and how do you
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go about addressing those
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patients' needs and thinking 10, 15, 20,
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30 steps ahead of where you
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are in this moment and
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that just, you know, set,
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set my course forward all the way.
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So, um,
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I am here because of the efforts of
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my manager who listened to
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my crazy notion that it was her fault.
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And my manager who also
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connected me with Aaron Ito and Aaron Ito,
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who saw that, you know,
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don't really suck.
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You just don't understand
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what it is that this entails.
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And I think, you know,
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as much as we can say that
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physical therapy sucks or whatever,
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you know, I,
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people pissing and moaning
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about things all the time
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is it that it sucks or are
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we not inspired and and to
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me a lot about taking
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control of the narrative
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that we operate within a
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physical therapist or
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occupational therapist
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whoever has a lot to do
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with understanding what the
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charge is we're all
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passionate about what we do
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don't get me wrong but at
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the same time that passion
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with a better understanding
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helps lead to something
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else so I became a manager
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that was my thing like
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I'm mentoring whoever comes in the door.
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That's what we're focused on.
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Who better to do it is
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someone who knows the tricks,
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who knows what it felt like
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to hide and how you were hiding,
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and now you can spot it and
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you can intervene before it hits 90 days.
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Oh, heck yeah.
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There's no such thing as a
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bad student or a bad clinician.
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I just think it's a level of
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understanding.
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That's kind of where my
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mission lies right now.
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I think
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give the world a better
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understanding of what physical therapy is,
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but thinking outside of the
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lines of just like, you know,
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a training and, oh no, we don't do that.
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Right.
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So you mentioned, you mentioned that you,
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you, you're an audiophile.
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You have a podcast too.
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What do you, what do you talk about?
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What do you,
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what do you try to share there?
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So that kind of evolved out of,
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we used to ask students
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questions in the clinic
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about their experience.
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and what inspired them to become, you know,
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a student in PTSD.
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And we started asking these questions,
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and it just kind of stretched out.
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And we were looking at the videos,
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looking back at the videos, and, you know,
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we could just delve in a
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little bit deeper.
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And I played with it over
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the last few years during
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the COVID years when there was
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little to do just kind of
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testing stuff out a lot of
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podcasts got started in
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2020 a lot of podcasts I
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mean gosh yeah yeah and and
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I heard you say I think I
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started listening to your
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podcast maybe like a couple
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months ago that's a whole
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story but I want to get it
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but okay but but one of the
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things was is that like my
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whole goal was like I don't
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want to be the eight
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episode guy so yeah I
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really wanted to have
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meaningful conversations
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and and not just with
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students but also patients
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because I think
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one of the things going
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through that whole
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experience where I started
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had to do with a patient that I had,
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and I'll never forget her.
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She was a nurse.
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Yeah.
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And during that time,
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when I was going through
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that whole transition,
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she actually looked at me
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one time and said, you know,
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you don't look like you
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enjoy what you're doing.
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And I always tell students,
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this one important thing is,
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is that your patients will
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always some patients,
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especially the patients that I work with.
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I work primarily with
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patients with neurological conditions,
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right?
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So,
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these patients have like this extra sense.
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I'm going to say that
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because whoever says that's trash,
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whatever, good for you.
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But I feel like they have
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this extra sense.
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They can tell when you're having a bad day,
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a good day, you know,
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when you're just tired or whatever.
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And just out of the blue,
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they'll say something that
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clicks and you're like, shoot,
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let me get my,
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let me get my shit together.
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But it's one of those things
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that you have to,
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You have to be mindful of
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how you're present in front of patients.
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It really does make a difference.
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I heard a story and this had
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to do with the patient in a coma,
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but I mean, the story just resonated.
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And it was a guest speaker
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when I was in PT school and
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she was working on a neuro
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unit and the person was in a coma.
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And then six months goes by
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and she's somewhere else in the hospital.
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She's inpatient and someone
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sort of stops and gives her this look.
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And she's like, what?
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And she was like,
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she didn't recognize the patient,
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but it was the patient that
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was in a coma.
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And she was like,
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you would just talk to me.
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And she's like, I heard all of it.
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and like chills like even
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now like right now like
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chills like so like be
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mindful of what you're
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saying when the patient's
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in a coma but also while
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they're awake like like the
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little things are the big
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things eye contact this is
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not just for patient care
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this is for life and kids
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and relationships and our
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friends is like eye contact
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do you seem present am I
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talking to metho right now
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and I'm just like yeah
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uh-huh I'm checking my
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phone right yeah keep going
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keep going like
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those things matter.
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But like when cookie, her name was cookie.
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She was one of my first guests, 1200,
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1300 episodes ago.
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She told that story in class.
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And she was like, I saw that, you know,
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now she's in the inpatient
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or outpatient gym in the hospital.
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And she's like, she's there in the, in the,
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in the parallel bars.
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And she's like, you were that voice.
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I recognize that voice.
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Cause again, when we was in a coma,
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I recognize you talk to me
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about basketball.
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You tell me what happened last night.
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And she's like,
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imagine that was your only
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stimulation for the day.
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Wow.
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I mean, 23 years I've been doing this.
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Have you really?
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Oh, absolutely, man.
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It's one of those things.
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You'll be surprised at
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things that you hear people
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say after the fact that you
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don't even recognize you're doing.
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And it resonates with them
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in such a meaningful way.
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It's insane.
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So you said you've been
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doing this for 23 years.
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Good for you.
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Did you not like it or were
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you uncomfortable?
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Like when those people said
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you look like you don't even like this,
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where do they write that you do?
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Well, here's the thing, man.
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If I'm playing,
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I play beer league men's hockey.
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I got a game tonight.
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If I am playing poorly or
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I'm getting my ass kicked
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or I feel like I don't belong there.
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Right.
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I look like I don't like it either,
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but I want to like it.
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So was it that you didn't
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like it or you were you
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felt you were bad at it?
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Because I can resonate with that, man.
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I felt like all thumbs in the clinic.
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Well, yeah, I think that's what it was,
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though.
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I felt like I did not know
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what I was doing.
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So you imagine playing.
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You get out there to play hockey,
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and you have roller skates on.
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Yes.
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And you're there in the rink,
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and you're out there,
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and you've got your roller skates on.
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You've got your pads on.
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You've got everything that
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you need to play,
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but you're playing in roller skates.
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Right.
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Yes.
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you,
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you just haven't figured out
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rollerblades probably better,
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but you know, like if, if you don't,
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you don't know how to use
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your equipment effectively,
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then it doesn't matter.
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Right.
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Like you won't get your,
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you won't be able to get up to speed.
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You'll just be Josh, you know,
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sloshed around the rink all day long.
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Yeah.
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I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm here.
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I'm dressed up.
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which means I keep showing up,
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which means I have a desire
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to be better at this.
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But the worst person to ask
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how to improve is yourself
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because if you knew you'd do it,
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that's where I think it
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might look like a lazy
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thing by telling your manager,
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this is your fault or this is part,
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you know.
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but they're sort of right
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it's like the it's when
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people tell other people to
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pull themselves up by the
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bootstraps that's not
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possible that's not how
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that works you can't ask a
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drowning person to save
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themselves they would have
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done it if they had the
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ability or the knowledge
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they would have done it
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already and and that's
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exactly it but I and I
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think also in that it was I
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don't know I think I'm
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pretty insane at that point
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you can say that because I
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i think about myself but
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It really does make a
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difference in terms of
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pointing that out early.
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There are people around you
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that know that you suck.
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And should they say something to you?
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I remember the speech therapist one time.
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We have a brain injury patient.
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I'm like, that guy's independent.
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He can walk up and down the hallway.
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But she's like,
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you can't even order a
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hamburger at McDonald's.
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How can you call him independent?
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And the thing was,
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it's just understanding the
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pieces of the puzzle.
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Not that you're dumb or whatever.
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It's just you don't
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understand the pieces of
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the puzzle and who's there
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to show it to you.
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And, you know, because of that,
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when I became a manager and
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I started managing teams of people,
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that became very important,
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especially as new grads
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that I brought in to spend time with.
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They can hide out really easily.
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Yeah.
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Nobody wants them to treat, you know,
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wants them to treat themselves.
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Well, now that you're a manager,
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now that it's, I mean,
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who better than somebody who's been there,
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who's sucked and now is like, okay,
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now I don't suck, right?
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What do you look for?
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What have you put in place?
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Like,
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do you have really good conversations
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on day zero and go, hey,
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when you're locked, like,
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what do you do to prevent
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that from that happening to someone else?
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Well,
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I think that it boils down to the charge,
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right?
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One of the things that,
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that Karen told me.
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And I think this was kind of
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one of those things that to
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get into the culture of some hospitals,
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it's a little difficult
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because some hospitals, they,
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they tend to, um, you know, it's,
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you know, they, they say they,
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there's a saying that
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nurses eat the young, right.
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They're young.
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Um, some,
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sometimes the larger the hospital,
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the larger the institution,
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sometimes the effort is
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spent towards people they already know,
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right.
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Nurses want,
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the therapist that they know
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touching their patients.
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But if you're the new guy, they're like,
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don't touch my patient.
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I don't know you.
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But I think a large part of
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that has to do with
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bringing people to the
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understanding that you're
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not here for you.
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You're here for that person
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in your life that if they
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called you right now and, you know,
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if you can visualize who that person is,
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you can smell who that person is,
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you know,
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hear their voice in your ear right now.
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And they called you right now.
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and said, Jimmy,
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I need you to come right now,
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you would shut off the
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podcast equipment and you
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would be out that door, right?
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And when you think about that person,
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every patient that walks
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into that door is exactly
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who that person is.
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And ultimately, that is our charge.
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That's who we're working with.
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So you would put in extra
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effort for that person in
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your life that means that much to you.
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But for some, you know,
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a random person that you don't know,
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right?
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Jimmy comes into the clinic.
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If you don't know Jimmy,
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then all you're doing is
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essentially just treating some guy,
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right?
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Just Jimmy's toe, Jimmy's shoulder.
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And he had a brain injury.
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And it,
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you just don't connect in that way.
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So it just changes everything, you know,
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it makes you want to,
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it makes you work differently and hard,
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well, harder and differently.
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Yeah.
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And, and you put things in context better,
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you know,
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you're not going to allow
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something to just fall off the plate,
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just working hard and,
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constantly working from your
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soul right um to be able to
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deliver something to
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somebody who genuinely
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needs you in this moment
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and they need you to be at
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the top of your game and
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when I started I wasn't I
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wasn't there and I told you
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I'm an audiophile right
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yeah so when I was going to
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school um my whole mission
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in life was at first to go
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to medical school
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I was like, all right,
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I'm done doing this.
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And I got the night spot on W.U.F.I.
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Yeah.
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Doing late night jazz at like one,
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two o'clock in the morning.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And a college radio station
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on a Friday night doing
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playing the jazz that is like, I mean,
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I'm only talking to myself.
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Right.
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Right.
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So, you know,
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I'd get bored and start
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offering a million dollar
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reward or whatever.
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If anybody calls me, please talk to me.
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So my goal in life was to
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get a profession that my
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parents wanted me to have that was very,
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you know, structured.
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And they could go to their friends and say,
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look, you've got a good job.
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And then go take those funds
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and go and support my music
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production stuff so I can
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go and become like
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you know, whatever.
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And that was my thing.
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I've always been a band nerd.
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Like music was my thing always.
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And so this was all part of that thing.
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So I'm not going to medical school.
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I could go to PT school, get in,
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get out at the time it was
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a bachelor's degree.
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So, you know,
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I just had to finish this two
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years and I'm good.
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And I was lined up to go to
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music school in Orlando.
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I was, when I was, when I graduated,
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I was going to be
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done that was it all I had
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to do was work take some
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music school and then boom
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I'm gonna be you know in
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production all day every
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day and they challenged me
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and said that I suck and I
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was like I'm a competitor
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also oh yeah I'm not going
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down like that right so you
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tell me I suck and I gotta
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I gotta pick up my game
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here because I'm not gonna
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let that to happen and so
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that's exactly what
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happened that's exactly how
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that all went down but
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still an audiophile
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How was,
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what'd you like about being on the radio?
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It's different when you're standing there.
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I can tell you my first
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story from college radio,
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but what would you like about it?
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Because you really, you can't explain it.
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It's hard to explain to
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people who haven't done it.
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Well, I started out DJing in high school,
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right?
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So we would DJ parties and all that stuff.
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Like I loved that part of it.
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My crew and I would get out
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there and go DJ parties and
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everything was lovely.
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And then I finally got the
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nod to get into the radio
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station and I was like,
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I'm going to be the next
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big thing in my life.
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We're going to sign up and
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then you get that 12
00:21:21.729 --> 00:21:22.989
o'clock spot because that's
00:21:23.028 --> 00:21:24.069
the only one and you're the
00:21:24.150 --> 00:21:25.829
new guy and it was better
00:21:25.849 --> 00:21:27.170
than opening records from
00:21:27.250 --> 00:21:30.871
the record labels and then I was like,
00:21:31.111 --> 00:21:31.431
fuck.
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I had the whole,
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I had the mixing boards that I wanted.
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I had the reels and the
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drops and I had all this
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stuff that I had access to and
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At the time,
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I used to listen to a lot of talk radio.
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So it was like, okay, this is great.
00:21:46.031 --> 00:21:47.173
I can do my own thing.
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But again,
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little knowledge and a lot of access.
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You don't know how to make it work.
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So what I could have done in hindsight,
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you know, could have been great.
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It's simple.
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It's simple, but not easy.
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The first time I was in upstate, up, up,
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up, western New York.
00:22:10.084 --> 00:22:11.204
knowing that the there were
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six people listening
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because they were my my
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people that lived on my
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floor my six buddies that's
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it uh it was a two it was
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two we did two hours so it
00:22:20.430 --> 00:22:21.190
was two to four in the
00:22:21.230 --> 00:22:22.270
morning on a wednesday it
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was a weekday two to four
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in the morning not even a
00:22:24.132 --> 00:22:24.652
night when people were
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going out from coming back
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from the bar no one's
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listening and yet I was
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like the I am the entire
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radio station for two hours
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I was like I can do this
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So I think I remember when you get there,
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the last guy is playing his
00:22:40.299 --> 00:22:40.920
song or whatever.
00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:41.980
He's like, hey, man, that's my last song.
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:43.040
When this is over, you're up.
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Where's your first song?
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Whatever, put it in.
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I play my first song.
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In between my first and my second,
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I'm going to turn the
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microphone on for the first time.
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And I know what button to hit.
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But now you're thinking your
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whole life is led up to this moment.
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I did the morning
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announcements in sixth grade,
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and I just loved it.
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And then I DJed a little bit.
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My brother did more of the DJing.
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I did more of the talking at
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parties and stuff like that.
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And I did my first mic break.
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I don't remember what song I came out over,
00:23:09.396 --> 00:23:10.900
went into, but said something,
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:12.863
probably nothing good and
00:23:12.923 --> 00:23:14.306
push play on the second song.
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And I went to the,
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I ran down the hall and vomited and,
00:23:19.703 --> 00:23:21.165
splash some water back in my mouth,
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do the real quick thing and
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then ran back.
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And I was like, because someone could,
00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:26.791
you could say it was
00:23:26.811 --> 00:23:28.594
because I was nervous and I was,
00:23:28.634 --> 00:23:30.655
but it was like, because I cared so much,
00:23:31.336 --> 00:23:32.237
it was like all this
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pressure on one thing and
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it literally came out.
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But as soon as I was done, I was like,
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okay,
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I didn't say anything about it on
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the air.
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So no one knew.
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Yeah.
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Well,
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the six people would have found out
00:23:43.709 --> 00:23:44.509
eventually.
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But it came out and I was like, okay,
00:23:46.851 --> 00:23:47.811
we got past that.
00:23:47.892 --> 00:23:49.093
Let's play song three.
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And then let's think of
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something funny to say
00:23:50.693 --> 00:23:51.994
between song three and four.
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And, but that,
00:23:54.435 --> 00:23:55.797
if that isn't a parallel
00:23:56.637 --> 00:23:57.838
between what you were talking about,
00:23:57.878 --> 00:24:00.279
which is like, I'm not good at this,
00:24:00.381 --> 00:24:01.740
but I really want to be.
00:24:01.862 --> 00:24:03.082
So I'm willing to suck,
00:24:04.202 --> 00:24:05.544
but I need people to talk
00:24:05.604 --> 00:24:06.984
to and help me suck.
00:24:07.125 --> 00:24:08.306
And you have to be, you have to be like,
00:24:08.445 --> 00:24:10.607
I'm willing to say I'm Jimmy and I'm,
00:24:10.847 --> 00:24:11.147
I suck.
00:24:13.275 --> 00:24:14.974
in a week or a month or six
00:24:15.015 --> 00:24:16.336
months I don't want to suck
00:24:16.375 --> 00:24:18.037
as bad as this and then
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when do you get good I
00:24:19.217 --> 00:24:21.198
don't know somewhere along
00:24:21.218 --> 00:24:22.298
the lines and then the
00:24:22.337 --> 00:24:23.479
really really great people
00:24:23.598 --> 00:24:24.739
never stop trying to be a
00:24:24.798 --> 00:24:26.319
little better and it sounds
00:24:26.339 --> 00:24:27.200
simple but it's not
00:24:28.101 --> 00:24:29.540
absolutely but but see like
00:24:29.580 --> 00:24:31.261
you said um you know I had
00:24:31.301 --> 00:24:31.922
a conversation with
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somebody the other day and
00:24:32.762 --> 00:24:33.682
we were talking about
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You strive towards getting
00:24:36.603 --> 00:24:38.442
to that level of perfection,
00:24:38.583 --> 00:24:39.242
even though you know you're
00:24:39.262 --> 00:24:39.982
not going to get there.
00:24:40.123 --> 00:24:41.483
Yes, it is a target.
00:24:42.163 --> 00:24:45.125
You kind of work towards that level,
00:24:45.164 --> 00:24:45.924
and you're constantly
00:24:45.964 --> 00:24:47.144
evolving in that process
00:24:47.164 --> 00:24:47.925
and learning in that
00:24:47.986 --> 00:24:50.425
process and reading through
00:24:50.726 --> 00:24:52.727
and challenging your own
00:24:52.866 --> 00:24:53.926
ideas and thoughts.
00:24:54.646 --> 00:24:57.008
And as you evolve in that,
00:24:57.028 --> 00:25:00.388
you just get better, I guess.
00:25:01.104 --> 00:25:02.545
because you're hoping that
00:25:02.585 --> 00:25:04.144
people aren't sitting behind you saying,
00:25:04.285 --> 00:25:05.385
oh, this sucks.
00:25:05.925 --> 00:25:06.145
Yeah,
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I think it's when I stopped focusing
00:25:08.386 --> 00:25:09.487
on how bad I was and
00:25:09.547 --> 00:25:10.866
focused on what's one thing
00:25:10.946 --> 00:25:13.508
I can do better now that I
00:25:13.548 --> 00:25:14.709
didn't do 15 minutes ago
00:25:14.828 --> 00:25:16.489
and just focus on that one thing.
00:25:17.009 --> 00:25:18.390
And when you focus on that,
00:25:18.509 --> 00:25:20.090
it's less focusing on how
00:25:20.171 --> 00:25:21.330
bad I am right now.
00:25:22.171 --> 00:25:23.192
And then you realize when
00:25:23.211 --> 00:25:24.791
you're not focusing on how
00:25:24.912 --> 00:25:26.633
awkward I probably sound or whatever,
00:25:26.673 --> 00:25:27.532
you're like, okay,
00:25:27.573 --> 00:25:28.753
do this one thing well.
00:25:29.760 --> 00:25:30.461
That's the trick.
00:25:30.661 --> 00:25:32.561
The trick is to don't focus
00:25:32.642 --> 00:25:34.021
on how wobbly the bike is.
00:25:34.122 --> 00:25:35.383
Focus on 10 feet in front of
00:25:35.423 --> 00:25:35.863
you and be like, OK,
00:25:35.903 --> 00:25:36.722
I got to get to 10 feet
00:25:37.103 --> 00:25:38.003
because my previous records
00:25:38.064 --> 00:25:39.324
five feet before I fell over.
00:25:39.443 --> 00:25:41.204
And like that's as dumb as it sounds.
00:25:41.644 --> 00:25:42.565
That's actually it.
00:25:42.664 --> 00:25:44.286
Like that's that's the life hack.
00:25:44.326 --> 00:25:45.506
That's that's the trick.
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That is it.
00:25:47.086 --> 00:25:47.946
So just curious,
00:25:48.686 --> 00:25:49.887
what kind of music did you
00:25:49.907 --> 00:25:51.167
play on that that station?
00:25:51.980 --> 00:25:52.680
College station,
00:25:53.101 --> 00:25:54.040
you play whatever you want.
00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:56.663
I mainly play college radio station.
00:25:57.403 --> 00:25:58.243
And a lot of college radio
00:25:58.263 --> 00:26:01.246
stations will require classical or jazz.
00:26:01.806 --> 00:26:03.086
This, we were in the middle of nowhere.
00:26:03.467 --> 00:26:04.847
So I think the local community was like,
00:26:04.907 --> 00:26:05.307
whatever.
00:26:05.648 --> 00:26:06.588
So we played anything.
00:26:06.648 --> 00:26:09.651
So at any given time during the day, WSBU,
00:26:09.651 --> 00:26:10.511
88.3 WSBU, the buzz.
00:26:13.354 --> 00:26:14.834
you might get metal for two
00:26:14.875 --> 00:26:16.115
hours or then you might get
00:26:16.234 --> 00:26:17.575
pop for two hours and then
00:26:17.615 --> 00:26:18.836
you might get what it was sort of like,
00:26:19.016 --> 00:26:19.996
it was cool because you
00:26:20.056 --> 00:26:20.756
didn't really know.
00:26:20.855 --> 00:26:21.717
It was really like,
00:26:21.916 --> 00:26:23.537
it was an iPod before iPods
00:26:23.596 --> 00:26:24.396
came out where it was like,
00:26:24.498 --> 00:26:25.478
I don't know what's going to happen.
00:26:26.377 --> 00:26:28.199
Um, and then I worked in,
00:26:28.598 --> 00:26:30.439
then I did an internship at 92,
00:26:30.439 --> 00:26:31.960
three K rock New York where
00:26:31.980 --> 00:26:32.880
Howard Stern was a,
00:26:33.700 --> 00:26:34.760
a little bit of a personality.
00:26:35.101 --> 00:26:36.361
And that was his last summer
00:26:36.421 --> 00:26:37.561
of terrestrial radio before
00:26:37.582 --> 00:26:38.261
he went to XM.
00:26:39.232 --> 00:26:41.074
So he had zero Fs.
00:26:41.453 --> 00:26:42.615
He didn't care at all.
00:26:42.694 --> 00:26:43.976
He knew where he was going next.
00:26:44.115 --> 00:26:45.516
So he was like burning bridges.
00:26:45.536 --> 00:26:46.497
So it was kind of fun to
00:26:46.537 --> 00:26:48.198
watch the ship explode a little bit,
00:26:49.038 --> 00:26:49.759
but I was the intern.
00:26:49.778 --> 00:26:51.298
So he, he treated us really well.
00:26:51.318 --> 00:26:52.519
We got treated well by the station.
00:26:52.539 --> 00:26:53.279
Cause they were like, well,
00:26:53.861 --> 00:26:55.662
you're free labor, but you're, you know,
00:26:55.862 --> 00:26:57.403
we don't, we didn't treat us poorly.
00:26:58.042 --> 00:26:58.702
And then I worked in,
00:26:58.803 --> 00:26:59.844
I worked mainly in rock or
00:26:59.884 --> 00:27:00.983
alternative rock radio,
00:27:01.023 --> 00:27:01.505
but that was what I
00:27:01.545 --> 00:27:02.325
listened to when I grew up.
00:27:02.684 --> 00:27:03.526
I got to work for my
00:27:03.546 --> 00:27:05.366
hometown radio station at age 12 and,
00:27:06.933 --> 00:27:08.535
This station signed on.
00:27:08.974 --> 00:27:12.756
I heard Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit.
00:27:13.076 --> 00:27:14.136
And on the radio,
00:27:14.156 --> 00:27:14.896
I heard that for the first
00:27:14.936 --> 00:27:16.137
time from the station.
00:27:16.637 --> 00:27:19.058
Fast forward eight years or six,
00:27:19.239 --> 00:27:21.200
seven years, I'm on that station.
00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:24.060
My friends were like, for half a second,
00:27:24.141 --> 00:27:25.422
I was cool because my friends were like,
00:27:25.481 --> 00:27:27.021
you got a job on our station?
00:27:27.041 --> 00:27:29.423
I'm like, yeah, midnight to 6 a.m.
00:27:29.742 --> 00:27:30.983
on Saturdays and Sundays.
00:27:31.463 --> 00:27:33.464
It didn't matter because I was like,
00:27:34.305 --> 00:27:34.965
I'm in the door.
00:27:35.006 --> 00:27:35.705
I got a chance.
00:27:36.686 --> 00:27:37.307
And then you start to
00:27:37.326 --> 00:27:38.507
process all over again
00:27:38.527 --> 00:27:41.347
because now you're the crappiest guy.
00:27:41.367 --> 00:27:42.608
You go from being the guy
00:27:42.648 --> 00:27:43.788
vomiting to being the best
00:27:43.828 --> 00:27:45.148
guy on the college radio station.
00:27:45.509 --> 00:27:46.670
And then you get hired and
00:27:46.809 --> 00:27:48.309
instantly you're the weakest link.
00:27:49.470 --> 00:27:50.790
And then you move to a new station.
00:27:50.971 --> 00:27:52.191
And I got news for you, everybody.
00:27:52.770 --> 00:27:53.790
This is sort of life.
00:27:54.050 --> 00:27:56.751
Because you don't want to be
00:27:56.951 --> 00:27:58.272
the biggest or best fish in
00:27:58.292 --> 00:27:58.972
the smallest pond.
00:27:58.992 --> 00:28:01.953
You want to find bigger
00:28:02.114 --> 00:28:03.253
lakes or seas or oceans.
00:28:04.332 --> 00:28:05.573
But you've got to go back to
00:28:05.613 --> 00:28:06.753
being the novice.
00:28:07.534 --> 00:28:08.055
Absolutely.
00:28:08.414 --> 00:28:09.194
Over and over again.
00:28:09.214 --> 00:28:12.337
That's the skill of that
00:28:12.397 --> 00:28:13.778
whole learning process, too.
00:28:14.019 --> 00:28:16.961
You're constantly evolving to get better.
00:28:17.401 --> 00:28:18.321
Learning is a skill.
00:28:18.541 --> 00:28:19.122
It is a skill.
00:28:19.142 --> 00:28:19.843
That is a skill.
00:28:20.282 --> 00:28:21.624
And you have to be open to
00:28:21.864 --> 00:28:23.164
recognizing the fact that
00:28:23.986 --> 00:28:25.467
you may not have all the answers.
00:28:25.527 --> 00:28:26.468
And being okay with that.
00:28:27.788 --> 00:28:28.548
I don't know what I'm doing.
00:28:29.263 --> 00:28:30.223
Show me where I need to go.
00:28:30.285 --> 00:28:31.224
Show me what I need to do.
00:28:31.285 --> 00:28:32.405
But not hiding from it,
00:28:32.465 --> 00:28:33.705
which I've been guilty and
00:28:34.467 --> 00:28:35.686
because that's the last thing.
00:28:35.926 --> 00:28:36.867
My dad was a New York City
00:28:36.907 --> 00:28:38.449
fireman and he would tell me he's like,
00:28:38.868 --> 00:28:39.689
we're taught when we go
00:28:39.709 --> 00:28:41.710
into a apartment fire,
00:28:42.931 --> 00:28:44.471
if we see toys or anything,
00:28:44.571 --> 00:28:45.652
he's like that our mindset
00:28:45.791 --> 00:28:46.913
all of a sudden switches
00:28:47.492 --> 00:28:48.933
because kids are programmed to hide.
00:28:49.594 --> 00:28:51.215
So fire is scary, and I hide.
00:28:51.276 --> 00:28:53.557
So he was like, the question was always,
00:28:54.318 --> 00:28:55.019
do kids live here?
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:55.900
And if the answer is yes,
00:28:56.441 --> 00:28:57.362
it changed how they
00:28:57.422 --> 00:28:58.282
searched the apartment
00:28:58.462 --> 00:28:59.844
because now they looked under every bed,
00:29:00.484 --> 00:29:02.467
in every toy box, in every closet,
00:29:02.567 --> 00:29:03.288
in every bathtub.
00:29:03.488 --> 00:29:05.369
Adults didn't do that for
00:29:05.410 --> 00:29:06.451
some reason because adults are like,
00:29:06.471 --> 00:29:06.892
get away.
00:29:07.192 --> 00:29:07.972
But kids hide.
00:29:07.992 --> 00:29:08.093
Right.
00:29:09.096 --> 00:29:10.196
I think that's a pattern
00:29:10.497 --> 00:29:11.356
when we get into scary
00:29:11.396 --> 00:29:12.678
situations that we hide.
00:29:12.718 --> 00:29:14.519
And I've been guilty of that myself,
00:29:14.919 --> 00:29:16.000
even as an adult.
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:19.161
I mean, it's fight, flight, or freeze.
00:29:19.381 --> 00:29:23.723
And sometimes freeze is hide.
00:29:24.104 --> 00:29:25.865
And that can be the
00:29:25.904 --> 00:29:27.826
detriment to ourself or our patients.
00:29:28.405 --> 00:29:29.405
But there's a way out of it.
00:29:29.547 --> 00:29:30.666
And the answer is learning it.
00:29:30.987 --> 00:29:32.307
And someone being nice
00:29:32.367 --> 00:29:33.429
enough or good enough to be like,
00:29:34.828 --> 00:29:35.890
you're too smart to not be
00:29:35.950 --> 00:29:37.049
better than this is
00:29:37.069 --> 00:29:38.090
probably a good compliment.
00:29:38.777 --> 00:29:39.317
Absolutely.
00:29:39.656 --> 00:29:41.498
Absolutely.
00:29:41.698 --> 00:29:43.018
And just think about this.
00:29:43.317 --> 00:29:44.478
And I would say that to any
00:29:44.518 --> 00:29:46.398
new grad is that always remember too,
00:29:46.439 --> 00:29:49.239
that these companies are investing in you,
00:29:49.578 --> 00:29:49.939
right?
00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:52.559
You know, if you hire somebody,
00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:53.799
you hire a new grad or you
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.180
hire anybody for that reason,
00:29:55.641 --> 00:29:57.760
it costs money to bring you on board.
00:29:57.961 --> 00:29:58.161
Right.
00:29:58.721 --> 00:29:58.980
All right.
00:29:59.181 --> 00:30:00.741
And when you start,
00:30:01.061 --> 00:30:02.082
they're investing in you.
00:30:02.281 --> 00:30:03.442
So you could tell a good
00:30:03.481 --> 00:30:05.002
company or bad company by
00:30:05.063 --> 00:30:06.923
how much time you spend in
00:30:07.914 --> 00:30:09.356
getting mentors or
00:30:09.477 --> 00:30:10.157
connecting you with
00:30:10.198 --> 00:30:11.680
somebody internally that
00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:14.505
can help put you or set you
00:30:14.525 --> 00:30:15.246
in the right direction.
00:30:15.266 --> 00:30:16.586
Cause that makes all the difference.
00:30:16.647 --> 00:30:17.127
It does.
00:30:18.810 --> 00:30:19.612
It's a, it's a,
00:30:19.791 --> 00:30:20.794
it's a call it's time
00:30:20.854 --> 00:30:22.715
effort and it is money, but, but,
00:30:23.811 --> 00:30:25.373
If a company isn't willing to do it,
00:30:25.733 --> 00:30:26.233
they're just going to
00:30:26.253 --> 00:30:27.434
replace you with the next person.
00:30:27.654 --> 00:30:28.435
And I got news for you.
00:30:28.976 --> 00:30:30.436
That person's going to need help too.
00:30:31.117 --> 00:30:32.157
And it's just going to be a
00:30:32.219 --> 00:30:32.818
revolving door.
00:30:32.898 --> 00:30:33.219
So yeah,
00:30:33.239 --> 00:30:34.820
the good ones always seem to have
00:30:34.840 --> 00:30:35.601
the magic fix.
00:30:35.641 --> 00:30:37.903
And the magic fix is invest in people.
00:30:39.104 --> 00:30:39.604
Absolutely.
00:30:39.864 --> 00:30:40.444
Give me the best version.
00:30:40.464 --> 00:30:41.025
Invest in your people.
00:30:41.045 --> 00:30:42.526
It'll never scare you wrong.
00:30:42.906 --> 00:30:44.587
Your teams make a difference
00:30:44.607 --> 00:30:46.388
to how well you take care of your team.
00:30:47.130 --> 00:30:48.530
And that just allows your
00:30:48.550 --> 00:30:50.952
investments to actually
00:30:51.472 --> 00:30:52.554
grow and grow and give back
00:30:52.574 --> 00:30:53.454
dividends in the long run.
00:30:54.144 --> 00:30:55.484
Yeah.
00:30:55.565 --> 00:30:56.925
So you did launch a podcast.
00:30:56.986 --> 00:30:57.707
Are you still doing it?
00:30:57.747 --> 00:30:58.307
What's it called?
00:30:58.326 --> 00:30:59.647
I'm still doing the podcast.
00:30:59.768 --> 00:31:01.910
It's called Ask with Dr.
00:31:01.950 --> 00:31:04.291
Hanson PT and my co-host Kyra.
00:31:04.311 --> 00:31:05.292
Shout out to you, Kyra.
00:31:06.794 --> 00:31:08.255
And essentially, you know,
00:31:09.215 --> 00:31:11.397
the slug liner on there is
00:31:11.498 --> 00:31:12.959
a little bit about PT and a
00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:13.638
lot about life.
00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:15.661
And again,
00:31:15.721 --> 00:31:19.463
the idea being is that we're
00:31:19.503 --> 00:31:20.545
really focused on
00:31:21.174 --> 00:31:22.996
talking about how PT
00:31:23.076 --> 00:31:24.517
intersects with the regular
00:31:24.557 --> 00:31:28.059
world and patients and
00:31:28.259 --> 00:31:29.099
digging deeper and then
00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:30.760
finding answers to, you know,
00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:32.363
I can tell you what a
00:31:32.903 --> 00:31:35.163
patient goes through after
00:31:35.223 --> 00:31:36.265
having a spinal cord injury,
00:31:36.545 --> 00:31:37.365
but here's the reality.
00:31:37.806 --> 00:31:38.646
If I have a patient with a
00:31:38.666 --> 00:31:39.787
spinal cord injury come on
00:31:39.887 --> 00:31:40.887
and have a conversation
00:31:40.928 --> 00:31:42.128
about their experiences
00:31:42.548 --> 00:31:44.029
working with the PTs in
00:31:44.089 --> 00:31:45.892
their life and in their past,
00:31:46.771 --> 00:31:48.673
what you'll likely get is a
00:31:48.732 --> 00:31:50.914
more honest conversation because
00:31:51.505 --> 00:31:53.286
my textbook or my experience
00:31:53.445 --> 00:31:56.007
is no longer as valid as
00:31:56.268 --> 00:31:58.209
someone's experience, uh,
00:31:58.388 --> 00:32:00.789
in sitting down with, uh,
00:32:02.191 --> 00:32:03.371
that having gone through
00:32:03.391 --> 00:32:04.231
that whole experience.
00:32:04.311 --> 00:32:04.531
Right.
00:32:04.711 --> 00:32:08.854
So that's kind of where that, um, podcast,
00:32:08.973 --> 00:32:09.674
uh, has gone.
00:32:09.714 --> 00:32:12.076
And so, um, quite a few patients,
00:32:12.175 --> 00:32:14.237
I was surprised because I was a little,
00:32:14.257 --> 00:32:17.178
you know, uh, reticent to ask, like,
00:32:17.479 --> 00:32:17.778
you know,
00:32:17.858 --> 00:32:19.098
the journey on this podcast thing,
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:20.039
I'm trying to do things.
00:32:20.511 --> 00:32:21.251
like, oh no,
00:32:21.311 --> 00:32:22.372
I'd definitely love to have
00:32:22.412 --> 00:32:23.333
these conversations with
00:32:23.373 --> 00:32:24.393
people because I've had a
00:32:24.432 --> 00:32:25.272
lot of therapists that have
00:32:25.313 --> 00:32:26.573
sucked at that.
00:32:27.354 --> 00:32:30.934
That's embarrassing, but okay, go ahead.
00:32:31.055 --> 00:32:32.154
We're just gearing up and
00:32:32.595 --> 00:32:33.694
just been trying to figure
00:32:33.755 --> 00:32:36.096
out how to best put this thing together.
00:32:36.135 --> 00:32:37.996
So far, so good.
00:32:38.016 --> 00:32:39.977
Where are you in the process?
00:32:41.376 --> 00:32:43.076
We've released our,
00:32:43.096 --> 00:32:45.198
I want to say it's our sixth episode.
00:32:46.417 --> 00:32:47.538
Our sixth episode just came
00:32:47.598 --> 00:32:48.939
out with one of our former students,
00:32:48.979 --> 00:32:49.519
the formerly
00:32:50.419 --> 00:32:53.344
army uh veteran and now ppa
00:32:53.384 --> 00:32:55.247
student so uh we had a
00:32:55.287 --> 00:32:56.368
conversation with him and
00:32:56.409 --> 00:32:58.271
about his you know seven
00:32:58.291 --> 00:32:59.433
years in the military and
00:32:59.913 --> 00:33:02.858
just looking at um adding
00:33:02.898 --> 00:33:04.481
more to the collection I'm trying not to
00:33:04.929 --> 00:33:06.950
fall into that eight podcast category.
00:33:07.089 --> 00:33:08.849
I think it's eight or two.
00:33:09.349 --> 00:33:11.530
If you get to episode 10 or something,
00:33:11.550 --> 00:33:12.711
if you release 10,
00:33:12.711 --> 00:33:14.951
you are in the top 1% of podcasters,
00:33:16.251 --> 00:33:17.471
which just shows you... I
00:33:19.153 --> 00:33:19.752
needed to read the
00:33:19.772 --> 00:33:21.553
statistic three times because I was like,
00:33:21.553 --> 00:33:22.513
10?
00:33:22.513 --> 00:33:24.134
But I guess it's because so
00:33:24.173 --> 00:33:27.595
many people do one or two and then stop.
00:33:27.634 --> 00:33:28.795
So it means the bottom of
00:33:28.835 --> 00:33:31.556
that pyramid is so wide that...
00:33:32.395 --> 00:33:33.936
The top 1% is 10.
00:33:34.616 --> 00:33:35.576
But I think a lot of people,
00:33:35.876 --> 00:33:37.317
they do that where they
00:33:37.698 --> 00:33:38.978
release it and they think
00:33:40.999 --> 00:33:42.459
it's similar to going to the gym.
00:33:42.538 --> 00:33:42.659
Dude,
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:43.940
I went to the gym and I was like
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.721
working really hard for like an hour.
00:33:46.101 --> 00:33:48.221
And I went home and I didn't have abs.
00:33:49.182 --> 00:33:49.882
It's like there's no abs.
00:33:51.055 --> 00:33:52.978
And I was like, well, yes,
00:33:53.597 --> 00:33:54.599
but you got to stack a
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:55.942
bunch of days in a row.
00:33:55.961 --> 00:33:57.903
I got bad news for you.
00:33:57.923 --> 00:33:58.805
I got bad news, good news.
00:33:58.865 --> 00:34:00.426
Bad news, this is going to take some time.
00:34:00.728 --> 00:34:02.210
The good news, if you keep up with it,
00:34:02.490 --> 00:34:02.951
it will work.
00:34:04.025 --> 00:34:04.685
So question,
00:34:05.365 --> 00:34:07.228
how did you get this far into
00:34:07.268 --> 00:34:07.749
this process?
00:34:07.788 --> 00:34:07.969
I mean,
00:34:08.009 --> 00:34:09.469
you're thousands of episodes into
00:34:09.789 --> 00:34:10.952
this thing.
00:34:11.032 --> 00:34:11.291
Yeah.
00:34:11.751 --> 00:34:14.715
How did you maintain that energy?
00:34:15.195 --> 00:34:15.795
Yeah.
00:34:16.056 --> 00:34:18.659
Someone gave me a compliment that,
00:34:19.099 --> 00:34:20.400
because I started this as a student.
00:34:21.041 --> 00:34:22.202
Now, I had a 15-year run-up.
00:34:24.085 --> 00:34:26.085
in radio before I went to PT school,
00:34:26.126 --> 00:34:26.286
right?
00:34:26.346 --> 00:34:27.485
And then I got to PT school
00:34:27.525 --> 00:34:29.005
and it was probably the right time.
00:34:29.286 --> 00:34:30.246
None of this was strategic.
00:34:30.286 --> 00:34:31.027
I would love to be like,
00:34:31.387 --> 00:34:32.266
here's my strategy.
00:34:32.327 --> 00:34:33.327
And it worked exactly right.
00:34:33.367 --> 00:34:37.248
This was all blind accident serendipity.
00:34:37.768 --> 00:34:38.289
So it was 2015.
00:34:38.389 --> 00:34:41.009
I'm a second year student
00:34:41.789 --> 00:34:43.849
and I don't feel like I fit.
00:34:44.130 --> 00:34:44.550
I feel it.
00:34:44.570 --> 00:34:45.650
This is why when you said I sucked,
00:34:45.670 --> 00:34:46.170
I was like, yes,
00:34:46.311 --> 00:34:47.351
I understand what that feels like.
00:34:47.510 --> 00:34:49.291
I liked everything in PT.
00:34:49.311 --> 00:34:50.311
I sort of liked everything.
00:34:50.791 --> 00:34:52.373
But I didn't want to invest
00:34:52.393 --> 00:34:53.635
my life in any of it.
00:34:53.675 --> 00:34:54.876
So I was like, I like everything,
00:34:54.916 --> 00:34:55.717
but I don't love anything.
00:34:55.757 --> 00:34:57.398
So I went to quit PT school.
00:34:59.315 --> 00:35:00.815
Now, meanwhile,
00:35:01.175 --> 00:35:02.817
there was a contest going on.
00:35:03.016 --> 00:35:04.157
And this is how dumb this is.
00:35:04.177 --> 00:35:05.278
There was a contest going on
00:35:05.318 --> 00:35:07.119
by some residency saying,
00:35:07.139 --> 00:35:09.240
write an essay for a thousand words.
00:35:09.942 --> 00:35:12.262
And first prize is a $15,000
00:35:12.262 --> 00:35:13.304
residency scholarship.
00:35:13.724 --> 00:35:15.204
I didn't want the residency
00:35:15.385 --> 00:35:17.226
because I was school on top of school.
00:35:17.666 --> 00:35:18.407
I wanted to get the hell out
00:35:18.447 --> 00:35:18.987
of school now.
00:35:19.688 --> 00:35:20.929
Second prize was a Fitbit.
00:35:21.994 --> 00:35:22.673
Remember Fitbit?
00:35:23.235 --> 00:35:24.414
My mom's birthday was coming
00:35:24.534 --> 00:35:25.775
up and I had no money
00:35:25.795 --> 00:35:26.675
because I was in school.
00:35:26.835 --> 00:35:28.496
So I was like, I want to win second prize.
00:35:28.617 --> 00:35:30.157
So I was aiming at the silver medal.
00:35:30.577 --> 00:35:33.018
Now, the prompt was a thousand words.
00:35:33.139 --> 00:35:34.900
How will you change physical therapy?
00:35:37.240 --> 00:35:38.581
Because it's better.
00:35:38.601 --> 00:35:39.041
But I was like,
00:35:39.101 --> 00:35:40.262
I don't want the residency
00:35:40.282 --> 00:35:41.003
scholarship because then I
00:35:41.043 --> 00:35:42.103
have to go to more school.
00:35:42.603 --> 00:35:43.123
Right.
00:35:44.123 --> 00:35:45.545
Instead of writing a thousand words,
00:35:45.585 --> 00:35:46.445
which was the prompt,
00:35:46.585 --> 00:35:47.905
I made a cartoon video.
00:35:49.135 --> 00:35:50.657
So I violated the rules of
00:35:50.697 --> 00:35:51.918
the game from number one,
00:35:52.358 --> 00:35:53.079
but I didn't want to win.
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:53.778
I wanted second prize.
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:55.840
And the idea was I had been
00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:58.521
to a conference weeks or months before,
00:35:58.702 --> 00:35:59.722
and I heard someone on
00:35:59.802 --> 00:36:00.643
stage or a bunch of
00:36:00.684 --> 00:36:01.643
speakers all day long.
00:36:02.105 --> 00:36:03.144
Now I'm a student coming
00:36:03.184 --> 00:36:04.126
into this profession,
00:36:04.585 --> 00:36:05.327
and I'm feeling like,
00:36:05.786 --> 00:36:07.307
I like the vibe of what
00:36:07.327 --> 00:36:08.228
this guy's talking about,
00:36:08.268 --> 00:36:09.389
but I don't really get everything.
00:36:09.429 --> 00:36:11.070
But I'm like, maybe it's me.
00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:12.831
So I'm just going to hide in the audience.
00:36:12.851 --> 00:36:13.592
I'm going to keep my mouth shut.
00:36:13.632 --> 00:36:13.913
No wonder.
00:36:14.572 --> 00:36:16.313
Two hours later, the conference is over,
00:36:16.414 --> 00:36:18.476
and now it's networking hour, happy hour.
00:36:19.476 --> 00:36:20.697
And just look up and there's
00:36:20.737 --> 00:36:21.719
the speaker over there.
00:36:21.739 --> 00:36:22.119
And I was like,
00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:23.961
I paid 200 bucks to come here.
00:36:24.282 --> 00:36:25.202
A hundred bucks or something.
00:36:25.222 --> 00:36:26.625
I'm like, I'm going to learn one thing.
00:36:27.246 --> 00:36:28.827
And I marched up to the guy and I was like,
00:36:28.867 --> 00:36:29.248
what's up?
00:36:29.307 --> 00:36:29.789
I'm Jimmy.
00:36:30.208 --> 00:36:30.949
Saw your presentation.
00:36:30.989 --> 00:36:31.590
I'm a student.
00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:32.992
Like, help me understand.
00:36:33.472 --> 00:36:34.594
And I understood his entire
00:36:34.594 --> 00:36:36.195
60 minute presentation in
00:36:37.217 --> 00:36:38.119
like 11 minutes.
00:36:38.782 --> 00:36:39.443
It wasn't me.
00:36:39.603 --> 00:36:40.585
It wasn't my fault.
00:36:41.067 --> 00:36:41.626
I was like, dude,
00:36:41.867 --> 00:36:43.610
where was that guy with the
00:36:43.650 --> 00:36:44.512
beer in his hand?
00:36:44.652 --> 00:36:45.333
Where were you?
00:36:45.592 --> 00:36:47.195
Where were you on stage?
00:36:47.576 --> 00:36:48.277
Why weren't you that guy?
00:36:48.717 --> 00:36:49.458
And the idea is,
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:50.860
and this is where all at fault for this,
00:36:50.900 --> 00:36:51.621
when I'm a speaker,
00:36:51.661 --> 00:36:53.143
all of a sudden I buttoned up my shirt,
00:36:53.244 --> 00:36:53.945
really, and I use...
00:36:55.235 --> 00:36:56.496
boring looking slides and I
00:36:56.556 --> 00:36:57.976
use big long words so on
00:36:57.996 --> 00:36:59.097
the drive back from north
00:36:59.137 --> 00:37:00.577
carolina to where I went to
00:37:00.597 --> 00:37:01.737
pt school at marymount in
00:37:01.757 --> 00:37:03.099
virginia I remember saying
00:37:03.139 --> 00:37:04.860
like and this is 2015 you
00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:05.679
still needed to like
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:06.599
explain to people what a
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:07.780
podcast was you needed to
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:08.840
be like a podcast it's like
00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:09.641
a radio show you can
00:37:09.661 --> 00:37:11.402
download and I was like I
00:37:11.442 --> 00:37:12.101
pitched it to three
00:37:12.141 --> 00:37:13.822
classmates in the car and
00:37:14.063 --> 00:37:15.244
all of them were friends
00:37:15.304 --> 00:37:16.164
and all of them were like
00:37:16.463 --> 00:37:18.085
including one of the girl
00:37:18.105 --> 00:37:18.864
was dating at the time
00:37:19.922 --> 00:37:21.284
They were like, that is a horrible idea.
00:37:21.423 --> 00:37:22.583
They were like, don't do that.
00:37:23.204 --> 00:37:23.603
Don't do it.
00:37:23.664 --> 00:37:24.605
And I was like, oh, okay.
00:37:24.985 --> 00:37:26.324
So your peers are telling you like,
00:37:26.385 --> 00:37:27.806
that is a crap ass idea.
00:37:28.346 --> 00:37:29.726
But it stayed in my stomach.
00:37:29.806 --> 00:37:30.706
And then I wound up pitching
00:37:30.746 --> 00:37:32.668
it to my advisor in PT school.
00:37:33.367 --> 00:37:35.268
And there I am in her office like, okay,
00:37:35.449 --> 00:37:36.329
so here's the thing called
00:37:36.349 --> 00:37:37.469
podcasting and what you do
00:37:37.509 --> 00:37:38.309
and what I'm thinking about doing.
00:37:38.329 --> 00:37:39.489
And she's so great,
00:37:39.789 --> 00:37:41.351
still friends to this day.
00:37:41.490 --> 00:37:41.911
And she's like,
00:37:42.630 --> 00:37:44.771
I have no idea what you're talking about.
00:37:44.831 --> 00:37:46.552
This is media outside of my realm.
00:37:46.652 --> 00:37:47.793
I'm a PT professor.
00:37:48.452 --> 00:37:50.735
But you sound really excited about it.
00:37:51.094 --> 00:37:52.976
So if you were to do it,
00:37:53.077 --> 00:37:54.056
what's the investment?
00:37:54.157 --> 00:37:54.657
And I was like, $80.
00:37:55.958 --> 00:38:01.722
And she's like, feels like if you miss,
00:38:01.742 --> 00:38:01.983
it's $80.
00:38:01.983 --> 00:38:03.083
I'm like, yeah,
00:38:03.123 --> 00:38:04.324
I have to buy a microphone.
00:38:04.364 --> 00:38:05.226
I don't own a microphone anymore.
00:38:05.925 --> 00:38:07.786
And so the idea was I did six episodes,
00:38:08.628 --> 00:38:09.289
a six-pack.
00:38:10.065 --> 00:38:11.106
I'm going to find people and
00:38:11.146 --> 00:38:12.987
have conversations over a beer, right?
00:38:13.606 --> 00:38:14.108
Six of them.
00:38:14.168 --> 00:38:15.108
And then just release it.
00:38:15.188 --> 00:38:16.028
And then I was going to be done.
00:38:16.048 --> 00:38:17.268
It was going to be a series.
00:38:18.128 --> 00:38:19.010
And then that's what I
00:38:19.269 --> 00:38:21.431
pitched in that contest.
00:38:21.911 --> 00:38:22.510
Like, hey,
00:38:22.610 --> 00:38:23.992
I'm doing this thing and whatever,
00:38:24.012 --> 00:38:24.291
whatever.
00:38:24.552 --> 00:38:25.693
Well, I get a phone call,
00:38:25.713 --> 00:38:26.373
not even an email,
00:38:26.452 --> 00:38:27.572
phone call from the company.
00:38:28.414 --> 00:38:29.534
And I thought they were calling to tell me,
00:38:29.574 --> 00:38:29.693
well,
00:38:29.713 --> 00:38:30.775
you didn't write the thousand words.
00:38:30.815 --> 00:38:31.894
What the hell is this video?
00:38:32.614 --> 00:38:33.476
That's not the contest.
00:38:33.516 --> 00:38:34.076
So you lose.
00:38:34.536 --> 00:38:35.436
They called me and they were like,
00:38:35.556 --> 00:38:35.956
you won.
00:38:37.132 --> 00:38:38.514
when do you launch the podcast?
00:38:38.534 --> 00:38:40.014
And I was like, well, I wasn't,
00:38:40.193 --> 00:38:41.173
that was just my idea.
00:38:41.213 --> 00:38:41.835
I don't know if I'm actually
00:38:41.855 --> 00:38:42.494
going to do it now.
00:38:42.574 --> 00:38:43.494
Again, trying to hide.
00:38:44.034 --> 00:38:46.556
They're like, we, here's the scholarship.
00:38:46.596 --> 00:38:46.916
And I was like,
00:38:46.936 --> 00:38:47.936
I actually want the Fitbit.
00:38:47.956 --> 00:38:48.677
Like, here's the Fitbit.
00:38:48.697 --> 00:38:49.056
Take the Fitbit.
00:38:49.297 --> 00:38:49.858
It's a hundred bucks.
00:38:50.077 --> 00:38:50.438
Take the Fitbit.
00:38:51.277 --> 00:38:52.778
I get the Fitbit and then they go,
00:38:52.958 --> 00:38:53.898
what would you need to
00:38:53.938 --> 00:38:54.878
launch the podcast?
00:38:54.898 --> 00:38:55.820
And I was like, I don't know,
00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.539
like a microphone and I got
00:38:57.559 --> 00:38:58.501
to pay a company.
00:38:58.581 --> 00:39:00.501
And so I was like, 200 bucks.
00:39:00.922 --> 00:39:02.121
They're like, here's $500.
00:39:02.402 --> 00:39:03.963
Put our name on the first six episodes.
00:39:04.123 --> 00:39:04.802
And I was like, wow.
00:39:05.902 --> 00:39:06.161
Great.
00:39:06.262 --> 00:39:06.641
So I did.
00:39:06.842 --> 00:39:08.202
And I think I put the name on the first.
00:39:08.543 --> 00:39:10.083
But I did six, released it.
00:39:10.983 --> 00:39:11.264
Again,
00:39:11.284 --> 00:39:13.083
I think I had first mover advantage.
00:39:13.164 --> 00:39:14.704
I wasn't the first PT podcast,
00:39:14.784 --> 00:39:15.905
but I was one of the first.
00:39:15.925 --> 00:39:16.244
Because again,
00:39:16.284 --> 00:39:16.965
you still need to explain
00:39:16.985 --> 00:39:17.666
what a podcast was.
00:39:18.626 --> 00:39:20.445
And I got cool feedback.
00:39:20.567 --> 00:39:22.967
And I realized all the other
00:39:22.987 --> 00:39:24.307
podcasts or most of the
00:39:24.327 --> 00:39:26.068
podcasts still are super
00:39:26.108 --> 00:39:28.048
smart PTs trying to be radio DJs.
00:39:28.936 --> 00:39:30.498
I was a radio DJ trying to be a PT.
00:39:30.518 --> 00:39:32.201
I was just swimming in a
00:39:32.221 --> 00:39:32.822
different direction.
00:39:33.143 --> 00:39:33.463
That's it.
00:39:33.643 --> 00:39:34.643
I was just swimming in the
00:39:34.664 --> 00:39:36.166
other direction.
00:39:36.987 --> 00:39:37.788
But it sort of works,
00:39:37.847 --> 00:39:40.472
which is like my job isn't, hey,
00:39:40.512 --> 00:39:40.911
everybody,
00:39:41.072 --> 00:39:42.014
I can't wait for you to hear
00:39:42.034 --> 00:39:42.934
this episode to hear how
00:39:43.074 --> 00:39:43.856
smart I am and how I'm
00:39:43.876 --> 00:39:44.416
going to teach you.
00:39:44.777 --> 00:39:46.679
I really do still approach episodes.
00:39:47.827 --> 00:39:48.646
Like I'm going to learn
00:39:48.686 --> 00:39:50.347
something and damn it,
00:39:50.367 --> 00:39:50.927
we're going to have some
00:39:50.967 --> 00:39:52.268
fun while we do it or else,
00:39:52.367 --> 00:39:53.228
or else I'm pulling the plug.
00:39:53.728 --> 00:39:55.208
So I think I've just, that's it.
00:39:55.809 --> 00:39:56.769
Have fun learning stuff.
00:39:57.349 --> 00:40:00.891
And, and similar to yours, mine really,
00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:01.971
I don't, I talk about,
00:40:02.550 --> 00:40:04.152
I talk about life with PTs,
00:40:04.472 --> 00:40:06.751
but not about PT stuff.
00:40:06.952 --> 00:40:08.293
Like I'm not talking about
00:40:08.353 --> 00:40:09.753
elbow angles and that
00:40:10.092 --> 00:40:10.793
someone else is doing that
00:40:10.833 --> 00:40:11.273
better than me.
00:40:11.974 --> 00:40:13.875
I would be, I would be a poser doing that.
00:40:13.914 --> 00:40:15.135
You would see right through me.
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:17.521
But I got the degree and I
00:40:17.561 --> 00:40:18.802
got enough life experience
00:40:18.844 --> 00:40:19.844
being a PT to have a
00:40:19.905 --> 00:40:24.090
conversation with anybody or most people.
00:40:24.831 --> 00:40:25.492
And then I'm like,
00:40:25.733 --> 00:40:26.853
I just want to find the lessons.
00:40:27.235 --> 00:40:28.036
And then I learn it.
00:40:28.135 --> 00:40:28.657
And oh, by the way,
00:40:28.677 --> 00:40:29.498
we're recording this or
00:40:29.518 --> 00:40:30.239
we're live streaming this.
00:40:30.498 --> 00:40:31.721
Other people learn it, too.
00:40:32.001 --> 00:40:33.422
That's quite literally the magic.
00:40:33.583 --> 00:40:33.764
I mean.
00:40:34.726 --> 00:40:34.967
you know,
00:40:35.126 --> 00:40:36.367
some people get locked up on like,
00:40:36.447 --> 00:40:37.527
what mic do I buy?
00:40:37.648 --> 00:40:38.547
Or how do I do?
00:40:38.648 --> 00:40:40.128
Or I gave away my formula
00:40:40.168 --> 00:40:42.427
just the other day of how I structure,
00:40:42.608 --> 00:40:44.449
how I structure like long form episodes.
00:40:44.708 --> 00:40:45.728
And I'm like, I'm going to give you this.
00:40:46.289 --> 00:40:47.668
And if you think this is my secret,
00:40:47.789 --> 00:40:49.789
it's not like, I'll give you,
00:40:49.849 --> 00:40:50.829
I'll give you the blueprint.
00:40:50.929 --> 00:40:51.949
I do this and I do this.
00:40:52.309 --> 00:40:53.409
Here's what apps I use.
00:40:53.610 --> 00:40:54.250
That isn't it.
00:40:55.251 --> 00:40:55.670
So it's like,
00:40:55.731 --> 00:40:56.471
it's like I gave you the
00:40:56.510 --> 00:40:58.451
blueprints for a jet and I'm like,
00:40:58.630 --> 00:40:59.610
you still got to fly it.
00:41:00.010 --> 00:41:01.871
Like, but I'll hand you the jet.
00:41:01.952 --> 00:41:03.472
I'll hand you a fully functioning jet.
00:41:04.385 --> 00:41:05.326
I need you to fly it.
00:41:05.465 --> 00:41:06.847
And when that first flight sucks,
00:41:06.987 --> 00:41:07.666
I need you to get in the
00:41:07.706 --> 00:41:08.728
cockpit again the next day.
00:41:08.947 --> 00:41:10.927
And that's when you get in the 400th time,
00:41:11.047 --> 00:41:12.289
suddenly you're like, oh, this is great.
00:41:12.309 --> 00:41:12.929
I'm like, right.
00:41:13.768 --> 00:41:15.130
So I tell people who launch a podcast,
00:41:15.150 --> 00:41:16.369
dude, you're first at 10 episodes.
00:41:16.449 --> 00:41:16.889
I say this.
00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:17.690
I look right at them.
00:41:17.731 --> 00:41:17.931
I go,
00:41:17.971 --> 00:41:19.251
your first 10 episodes are going to suck.
00:41:19.351 --> 00:41:20.052
And they're like, well,
00:41:20.072 --> 00:41:20.811
then why would I start?
00:41:21.211 --> 00:41:22.411
And then I pause and I go, listen,
00:41:22.472 --> 00:41:23.233
they're only going to suck
00:41:23.253 --> 00:41:24.052
compared to your next 10
00:41:24.052 --> 00:41:24.873
episodes because you're
00:41:24.893 --> 00:41:25.512
going to get better.
00:41:26.233 --> 00:41:27.313
The learning curve is steep.
00:41:27.594 --> 00:41:30.175
So I'm like, just Gary Vee says this.
00:41:30.315 --> 00:41:32.516
Other people just push publish.
00:41:33.751 --> 00:41:34.492
Don't worry about it.
00:41:34.512 --> 00:41:35.233
If I had to listen to my
00:41:35.353 --> 00:41:37.695
college radio shows, I would vomit again.
00:41:39.396 --> 00:41:42.539
But only compared to my 15th
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:44.619
year in radio and my eighth
00:41:44.661 --> 00:41:47.302
year in podcasting, that's it.
00:41:47.503 --> 00:41:48.983
And somewhere along the way,
00:41:49.905 --> 00:41:51.166
you're not awful anymore.
00:41:51.425 --> 00:41:52.947
And I don't know if we ever get to great,
00:41:53.126 --> 00:41:54.989
but you're not awful anymore.
00:41:55.728 --> 00:41:57.510
So I say push publish.
00:41:58.322 --> 00:41:59.443
Push public.
00:41:59.583 --> 00:42:00.503
If you put out a crappy
00:42:00.523 --> 00:42:02.204
episode and no one listens,
00:42:02.784 --> 00:42:03.985
no one heard you be crappy.
00:42:05.166 --> 00:42:06.505
That is absolutely true.
00:42:07.427 --> 00:42:08.166
My mom heard it, though.
00:42:09.608 --> 00:42:11.929
Yeah.
00:42:12.829 --> 00:42:14.130
They're always our biggest supporter.
00:42:14.170 --> 00:42:16.190
And my mom was a big supporter.
00:42:16.291 --> 00:42:17.972
She would comment on stuff
00:42:18.012 --> 00:42:19.072
and listen to stuff and then...
00:42:20.168 --> 00:42:20.748
Oh, that was great.
00:42:20.768 --> 00:42:21.849
I heard you talking to that, whatever.
00:42:21.949 --> 00:42:22.989
And she was not in healthcare,
00:42:23.409 --> 00:42:23.969
but she was like,
00:42:24.269 --> 00:42:25.110
I see what you're doing.
00:42:25.250 --> 00:42:26.630
She put words to what I do
00:42:26.710 --> 00:42:28.891
now because my job now is podcasting,
00:42:28.952 --> 00:42:29.052
right?
00:42:29.092 --> 00:42:30.612
I get revenue from the show from sponsors.
00:42:30.731 --> 00:42:31.672
That's very transparent.
00:42:32.251 --> 00:42:32.353
Right.
00:42:32.652 --> 00:42:34.213
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So you can just do that.
00:42:41.434 --> 00:42:42.416
but also I work with
00:42:42.476 --> 00:42:44.277
companies in healthcare and
00:42:44.336 --> 00:42:45.717
outside of healthcare with
00:42:45.797 --> 00:42:46.699
communication stuff.
00:42:46.818 --> 00:42:48.239
And then my mom said, she's like, Oh,
00:42:48.260 --> 00:42:49.460
you're with your podcast.
00:42:49.501 --> 00:42:50.041
You're trying to be the
00:42:50.081 --> 00:42:51.061
Jimmy Fallon of PT.
00:42:51.362 --> 00:42:53.264
Talk to anybody, just make it fun and,
00:42:53.443 --> 00:42:54.324
you know, laugh and learn.
00:42:54.565 --> 00:42:54.744
Right.
00:42:55.045 --> 00:42:55.204
Right.
00:42:55.646 --> 00:42:55.826
With,
00:42:56.545 --> 00:42:57.967
What I do like off camera
00:42:58.027 --> 00:42:59.528
with helping other people do it.
00:42:59.648 --> 00:43:01.469
It's like, I'm your Sherpa.
00:43:01.771 --> 00:43:02.851
I've been, I've sucked.
00:43:03.391 --> 00:43:04.132
I know where you are.
00:43:04.253 --> 00:43:05.092
I know what it feels like.
00:43:05.233 --> 00:43:05.934
And we're going to walk
00:43:06.014 --> 00:43:08.235
together to episode five
00:43:08.436 --> 00:43:09.876
and then 55 and then 155.
00:43:09.876 --> 00:43:12.039
And that can be videos or
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:13.460
podcasts or social.
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.541
It's, it's two tin cans in a string, man.
00:43:15.842 --> 00:43:17.143
It's just moving information
00:43:17.422 --> 00:43:18.764
from one person to another.
00:43:19.385 --> 00:43:20.365
But how do you do that?
00:43:20.565 --> 00:43:20.766
Okay.
00:43:20.786 --> 00:43:21.766
There's some skill to it.
00:43:21.887 --> 00:43:23.027
And the more you do it,
00:43:23.088 --> 00:43:23.989
just like neuro rehab.
00:43:24.628 --> 00:43:25.309
Repetition.
00:43:25.809 --> 00:43:28.030
That's your biggest weapon is repetitions.
00:43:29.251 --> 00:43:30.271
So question for you, though,
00:43:30.431 --> 00:43:31.932
do you flip this on me now?
00:43:31.972 --> 00:43:33.054
You flip this on me now.
00:43:33.114 --> 00:43:34.795
Now I don't.
00:43:35.835 --> 00:43:36.094
I went.
00:43:36.856 --> 00:43:38.177
No, I went full nonclinical,
00:43:38.217 --> 00:43:39.056
although I flirt with the
00:43:39.097 --> 00:43:39.918
idea of going back.
00:43:40.398 --> 00:43:42.478
But I never felt great in the clinic.
00:43:43.103 --> 00:43:43.322
No.
00:43:44.143 --> 00:43:45.143
I never felt... Wait, wait, wait.
00:43:45.164 --> 00:43:46.445
You did pediatrics, though.
00:43:46.704 --> 00:43:47.764
I did pediatrics.
00:43:47.864 --> 00:43:48.985
I felt great there.
00:43:49.005 --> 00:43:50.146
Okay.
00:43:50.447 --> 00:43:51.567
But I always felt like I'm
00:43:51.606 --> 00:43:53.068
just playing around with kids.
00:43:54.849 --> 00:43:55.869
But that's sort of PEDS.
00:43:56.248 --> 00:43:57.250
So I'm actually... Funny you
00:43:57.309 --> 00:43:57.769
mentioned that.
00:43:58.070 --> 00:44:00.291
Amy O'Malley was my mentor
00:44:00.490 --> 00:44:01.211
at the PEDS clinic.
00:44:01.452 --> 00:44:02.572
I went... So I was in
00:44:02.672 --> 00:44:04.233
outpatient cash base
00:44:04.592 --> 00:44:06.333
working with CrossFit
00:44:06.373 --> 00:44:08.815
athletes and triathletes and army,
00:44:08.835 --> 00:44:09.956
a lot of military people.
00:44:10.496 --> 00:44:11.518
And it just didn't fulfill me.
00:44:11.617 --> 00:44:12.699
Not that it wasn't valid.
00:44:12.778 --> 00:44:13.719
It just wasn't my thing.
00:44:14.001 --> 00:44:14.802
So I called Amy.
00:44:14.882 --> 00:44:15.882
I met her through school.
00:44:15.922 --> 00:44:17.565
She was like a guest speaker at school.
00:44:18.226 --> 00:44:19.106
And she had a clinic or she
00:44:19.126 --> 00:44:19.907
worked at a clinic locally.
00:44:19.927 --> 00:44:20.307
I was like, hey,
00:44:20.327 --> 00:44:21.369
can I come like shadow you
00:44:21.409 --> 00:44:22.851
like a day or a weekend a
00:44:22.911 --> 00:44:23.913
week or something?
00:44:24.492 --> 00:44:25.273
And she was like, well, you know,
00:44:25.293 --> 00:44:25.994
we're hiring.
00:44:26.094 --> 00:44:27.416
And I'm like, yeah, no, no, I don't.
00:44:27.476 --> 00:44:28.918
I never even done a clinical in Pete's.
00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:29.438
Never.
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:29.860
Nothing.
00:44:30.460 --> 00:44:31.721
So I have nothing.
00:44:31.860 --> 00:44:33.762
I'm just looking for quite
00:44:33.802 --> 00:44:34.842
literally the first minute
00:44:35.242 --> 00:44:35.864
treating a kid.
00:44:36.003 --> 00:44:36.623
And she was like,
00:44:37.005 --> 00:44:37.945
all I heard you say was you
00:44:37.965 --> 00:44:38.945
have no bad habits that I
00:44:38.965 --> 00:44:41.407
need to unlearn you.
00:44:41.987 --> 00:44:43.228
And then she said a few other things.
00:44:43.289 --> 00:44:44.449
And hopefully she's not
00:44:44.469 --> 00:44:45.630
listening to this episode
00:44:45.650 --> 00:44:46.690
because I don't want her to
00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:47.130
see what's coming.
00:44:47.592 --> 00:44:48.532
But then she said, Jimmy,
00:44:48.552 --> 00:44:49.072
do you know what the
00:44:49.112 --> 00:44:50.373
divorce rate is in this country?
00:44:50.414 --> 00:44:50.813
And I was like, 50%.
00:44:51.494 --> 00:44:51.795
And she goes,
00:44:51.815 --> 00:44:52.554
do you know what the divorce
00:44:52.594 --> 00:44:53.715
rate is if you have a child with
00:44:54.195 --> 00:44:54.797
special needs.
00:44:55.177 --> 00:44:55.918
And I said, no.
00:44:55.978 --> 00:44:56.818
And she goes, another 50%.
00:44:57.838 --> 00:44:58.480
So she was like,
00:44:58.619 --> 00:44:59.621
and I think the math works out.
00:44:59.661 --> 00:45:00.541
Math people will check me on this.
00:45:01.302 --> 00:45:02.402
She was essentially saying,
00:45:02.523 --> 00:45:03.824
you might be the only male
00:45:04.724 --> 00:45:06.467
in a kid's regular...
00:45:06.706 --> 00:45:07.347
Because a lot of the kids
00:45:07.367 --> 00:45:08.608
that we saw was outpatient peds.
00:45:08.949 --> 00:45:10.550
So I was seeing a kid once or twice a week,
00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:14.047
but forever or till they're 21 or 18.
00:45:14.047 --> 00:45:15.228
So she's like, you a lot.
00:45:15.289 --> 00:45:16.730
She goes, you're a unicorn, man.
00:45:16.769 --> 00:45:17.670
You're a dude.
00:45:17.710 --> 00:45:19.211
And you'd be the only male at our clinic.
00:45:19.291 --> 00:45:19.713
And she's like,
00:45:19.753 --> 00:45:20.873
that's going to work for you.
00:45:20.914 --> 00:45:21.793
I was like, really?
00:45:21.954 --> 00:45:23.396
And so I thought I brought
00:45:23.456 --> 00:45:24.275
nothing to the table.
00:45:24.376 --> 00:45:26.577
And she was showing me like, I see upside.
00:45:26.677 --> 00:45:27.759
And I was like, gosh, really?
00:45:27.818 --> 00:45:29.521
So I felt so that felt good.
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:30.561
I did like that.
00:45:30.740 --> 00:45:32.322
But there was this burning
00:45:32.382 --> 00:45:34.364
desire for me to do this other thing.
00:45:34.423 --> 00:45:35.605
Like, can I make more?
00:45:36.525 --> 00:45:37.686
I could leave a really deep
00:45:37.726 --> 00:45:38.608
burning impression with
00:45:39.835 --> 00:45:41.456
all the kids and parents that I treated.
00:45:41.536 --> 00:45:42.135
And that would be,
00:45:42.155 --> 00:45:43.177
I don't know what I have 20
00:45:43.177 --> 00:45:44.396
or 30 kids on my schedule,
00:45:45.157 --> 00:45:46.217
but what if I could put a
00:45:46.277 --> 00:45:48.619
zero or two zeros or three zeros on that?
00:45:48.759 --> 00:45:49.458
What if I could have a
00:45:49.518 --> 00:45:51.000
conversation with them though,
00:45:51.179 --> 00:45:53.061
now that a hundred people
00:45:53.121 --> 00:45:54.300
here and Bray's like a hundred,
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:54.961
that's not a lot.
00:45:55.001 --> 00:45:55.202
I go,
00:45:55.621 --> 00:45:57.762
you have it a hundred people treat 30
00:45:57.762 --> 00:45:58.523
people a week.
00:45:58.663 --> 00:45:59.764
And that's all that we start
00:45:59.784 --> 00:46:01.644
to now that that's,
00:46:01.684 --> 00:46:02.864
that's a hockey stick graph.
00:46:02.905 --> 00:46:04.106
Like that goes up fast.
00:46:04.505 --> 00:46:04.646
Yeah.
00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:06.771
So I was like, I kind of like this.
00:46:06.851 --> 00:46:07.072
I mean,
00:46:07.092 --> 00:46:08.233
I struggle with it as an identity
00:46:08.253 --> 00:46:09.074
all the day, all the time.
00:46:09.094 --> 00:46:09.994
When I do PT,
00:46:10.094 --> 00:46:11.856
I do my show live at PT school sometimes.
00:46:12.516 --> 00:46:13.697
And before we like start,
00:46:13.918 --> 00:46:14.818
before I hit record,
00:46:14.918 --> 00:46:16.880
I'll sort of give the audience,
00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:18.581
which are PT students, some context.
00:46:19.242 --> 00:46:19.722
Show of hands,
00:46:19.742 --> 00:46:20.362
how many people have heard
00:46:20.382 --> 00:46:21.222
the podcast or not?
00:46:21.302 --> 00:46:23.405
Most of the time, it's half maybe at best,
00:46:23.864 --> 00:46:25.186
which I actually look as opportunity.
00:46:25.567 --> 00:46:25.786
I'm like,
00:46:25.806 --> 00:46:27.148
the show gets X number of downloads,
00:46:27.228 --> 00:46:27.367
right?
00:46:27.387 --> 00:46:28.509
We got 5 million downloads or whatever.
00:46:28.869 --> 00:46:29.909
And half the room I'm about
00:46:29.949 --> 00:46:31.070
to talk to has never heard of me.
00:46:31.490 --> 00:46:32.692
Opportunity to turn them
00:46:32.731 --> 00:46:33.632
into people who like it, right?
00:46:33.672 --> 00:46:33.813
Right.
00:46:34.413 --> 00:46:35.034
And then I say,
00:46:35.094 --> 00:46:38.074
I'm about to tell you my question.
00:46:38.094 --> 00:46:39.016
I'm going to ask you a question.
00:46:39.096 --> 00:46:40.096
Don't answer it out loud.
00:46:41.536 --> 00:46:42.577
Then at the end of the show,
00:46:42.597 --> 00:46:43.858
I'm going to ask you the question again.
00:46:44.217 --> 00:46:45.559
I want to know if your answer changed.
00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:46.239
And the question is,
00:46:46.418 --> 00:46:48.039
is Jimmy a real physical therapist?
00:46:49.201 --> 00:46:49.621
And then I say,
00:46:49.661 --> 00:46:50.621
I haven't treated patient
00:46:50.722 --> 00:46:51.442
in a couple of years.
00:46:51.581 --> 00:46:52.481
I'm not an education.
00:46:52.583 --> 00:46:53.322
I'm not in research.
00:46:53.402 --> 00:46:54.443
I'm not an administration.
00:46:55.623 --> 00:46:56.864
Wait, what does Jimmy do?
00:46:56.985 --> 00:46:57.425
And then I'm like,
00:46:57.625 --> 00:46:58.985
I'm about to do what I do.
00:47:00.074 --> 00:47:01.195
And then I'm going to ask
00:47:01.215 --> 00:47:01.775
the question again.
00:47:01.815 --> 00:47:02.635
So then I do like a live
00:47:02.695 --> 00:47:03.596
show where I'll interview
00:47:03.737 --> 00:47:05.458
four or five people from the school,
00:47:05.637 --> 00:47:07.199
alums, faculty, students, whatever.
00:47:07.579 --> 00:47:08.860
But I do it, you know, sort of,
00:47:09.981 --> 00:47:11.681
I do it with all the music and whatever.
00:47:11.762 --> 00:47:15.585
And we do the, we make it fun.
00:47:15.605 --> 00:47:16.585
Essentially I do the Jimmy
00:47:16.605 --> 00:47:17.806
Fallon show of PT live.
00:47:18.405 --> 00:47:19.927
And then at the end, everybody claps,
00:47:20.027 --> 00:47:20.208
right?
00:47:20.268 --> 00:47:20.927
I hit stop.
00:47:21.027 --> 00:47:21.889
And then I turn back to the
00:47:21.909 --> 00:47:22.528
audience and I go,
00:47:22.829 --> 00:47:24.309
what you just heard was the trick.
00:47:25.391 --> 00:47:26.552
You just watched the trick.
00:47:27.876 --> 00:47:30.255
Now, when I go home and publish this,
00:47:30.615 --> 00:47:31.817
I just did the trick in
00:47:31.836 --> 00:47:32.677
front of 300 people.
00:47:33.657 --> 00:47:36.257
When I leave and it goes to 30,000 people,
00:47:37.057 --> 00:47:39.438
if 30,000 people learn one thing,
00:47:39.818 --> 00:47:41.657
I'm not a math guy, that's 30,000 things.
00:47:42.318 --> 00:47:43.318
And if I do that twice a
00:47:43.358 --> 00:47:44.458
week for eight years,
00:47:44.918 --> 00:47:46.079
that's a lot of things.
00:47:47.018 --> 00:47:48.599
So I'm just serving up information.
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:49.719
The same thing you're doing.
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.019
And the magic of mine is I
00:47:52.179 --> 00:47:52.780
just kept doing it.
00:47:53.059 --> 00:47:54.099
Even when no one clapped,
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.121
even when no one dropped me a DM,
00:47:56.380 --> 00:47:57.081
even when no one...
00:47:58.067 --> 00:47:59.489
Even when I got my teeth punched in,
00:47:59.668 --> 00:48:00.590
I still did it again.
00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:02.773
Because at worst,
00:48:03.152 --> 00:48:04.974
I learned one thing from 48
00:48:04.974 --> 00:48:06.117
minutes of talking with them.
00:48:07.538 --> 00:48:08.659
And I found value in that.
00:48:09.179 --> 00:48:09.820
Yeah, absolutely.
00:48:10.269 --> 00:48:11.610
I'm like, and oh my gosh,
00:48:12.030 --> 00:48:13.510
biggest Trojan horse slash
00:48:13.710 --> 00:48:15.012
cheat code ever to meeting
00:48:15.052 --> 00:48:17.112
people and getting jobs or
00:48:17.132 --> 00:48:18.213
just meeting smart people.
00:48:18.373 --> 00:48:19.253
Like, I mean,
00:48:19.273 --> 00:48:20.052
a lot of the audience has no
00:48:20.092 --> 00:48:21.094
idea what a Rolodex is,
00:48:21.153 --> 00:48:23.494
but a Rolodex is like the
00:48:23.554 --> 00:48:24.875
context on your phone.
00:48:26.034 --> 00:48:28.096
But like, hey, like unintentionally,
00:48:28.155 --> 00:48:29.115
I've got the world's best
00:48:29.175 --> 00:48:30.856
Rolodex in PT where someone goes,
00:48:30.996 --> 00:48:31.976
I wish I knew someone who
00:48:32.016 --> 00:48:33.217
did this super obscure thing.
00:48:33.257 --> 00:48:34.137
I'm like, I know three of them.
00:48:34.938 --> 00:48:35.818
Wow.
00:48:36.739 --> 00:48:38.860
And I don't leverage that for evil,
00:48:38.900 --> 00:48:41.842
but I'm like, I get to be a connector.
00:48:42.362 --> 00:48:44.744
I was at CSM, and I won't say who she was.
00:48:44.764 --> 00:48:45.344
I don't want to give away
00:48:45.364 --> 00:48:46.244
too much of her or whatever,
00:48:46.264 --> 00:48:47.405
but she comes from a
00:48:47.505 --> 00:48:48.706
marginalized group of people,
00:48:48.746 --> 00:48:50.286
a very small subset of the population,
00:48:50.327 --> 00:48:51.208
and she wants to get into
00:48:51.228 --> 00:48:53.728
this uber competitive type of therapy.
00:48:54.309 --> 00:48:54.750
And I go,
00:48:54.909 --> 00:48:55.949
I know three people that can help
00:48:55.989 --> 00:48:56.451
you now.
00:48:57.070 --> 00:48:58.190
And I was like, how cool is this?
00:48:58.251 --> 00:48:59.472
I'm like, stand here.
00:48:59.492 --> 00:49:00.492
I want your phone number.
00:49:01.012 --> 00:49:01.632
And I'm going to give it to
00:49:01.692 --> 00:49:02.432
these three people.
00:49:02.652 --> 00:49:03.552
And then you're going to get it.
00:49:03.572 --> 00:49:04.913
What's your email address?
00:49:05.253 --> 00:49:06.273
They're going to email you.
00:49:06.494 --> 00:49:06.934
And she was like,
00:49:06.954 --> 00:49:08.094
why are you just doing that?
00:49:08.153 --> 00:49:08.394
I'm like,
00:49:08.855 --> 00:49:10.414
because I see two dots that can
00:49:10.434 --> 00:49:11.034
be connected.
00:49:12.755 --> 00:49:14.275
If I connect you with this guy,
00:49:14.295 --> 00:49:17.177
I know that he likes to
00:49:17.217 --> 00:49:18.117
help people like you
00:49:18.157 --> 00:49:20.617
because he was like you 25 years ago.
00:49:21.217 --> 00:49:21.898
And now he goes,
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:23.958
I want to speed up other people.
00:49:24.018 --> 00:49:24.960
I want to be the person I
00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:26.079
needed but didn't have.
00:49:26.809 --> 00:49:28.429
And I get to be the person in a bar going,
00:49:28.449 --> 00:49:29.170
you want to do what?
00:49:29.469 --> 00:49:29.809
Oh, yeah,
00:49:29.829 --> 00:49:32.911
but you're from a rural area in a
00:49:32.951 --> 00:49:35.911
minority group, and you have no inroads.
00:49:35.931 --> 00:49:36.913
I'm like, I'm your inroad,
00:49:37.233 --> 00:49:38.592
so thanks for coming to Happy.
00:49:38.753 --> 00:49:39.974
So I'm like, hang on, what's your email?
00:49:40.014 --> 00:49:40.833
Got it, got it.
00:49:41.014 --> 00:49:41.594
Okay, good, see you.
00:49:42.735 --> 00:49:43.974
So I get to do that.
00:49:44.114 --> 00:49:44.876
So that's fun.
00:49:45.655 --> 00:49:46.795
That's a great difference
00:49:46.916 --> 00:49:49.617
that you make in this whole profession,
00:49:49.657 --> 00:49:50.056
though.
00:49:50.438 --> 00:49:51.657
That doesn't make you obscure it.
00:49:52.684 --> 00:49:54.166
It also, right.
00:49:54.206 --> 00:49:56.146
But I also didn't need or
00:49:56.286 --> 00:49:57.288
ask for permission to do it.
00:49:57.347 --> 00:49:58.248
I felt like I needed to do it,
00:49:58.289 --> 00:49:59.309
which is this exact.
00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:01.690
So my whole lesson is to why can't,
00:50:01.831 --> 00:50:02.512
what can't you do?
00:50:02.672 --> 00:50:03.932
I connected radio and PT
00:50:04.273 --> 00:50:04.952
didn't make any sense.
00:50:04.992 --> 00:50:06.673
Looking forwards makes complete sense.
00:50:06.733 --> 00:50:07.695
Now that everything's live
00:50:07.715 --> 00:50:08.896
streamed and podcasts and whatever.
00:50:09.536 --> 00:50:09.655
Well,
00:50:09.675 --> 00:50:10.936
my thing is what's your thing from
00:50:10.976 --> 00:50:12.557
outside of PT or before PT
00:50:12.657 --> 00:50:13.438
or the thing you do?
00:50:13.539 --> 00:50:15.880
Like Kate McGee loved video
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:16.981
games and e-sports.
00:50:17.661 --> 00:50:19.202
And when I first interviewed her in 2015,
00:50:19.202 --> 00:50:19.342
2016, she,
00:50:21.507 --> 00:50:22.248
She was like, oh,
00:50:22.407 --> 00:50:23.608
esports is like almost a
00:50:23.648 --> 00:50:24.588
billion dollar industry.
00:50:24.628 --> 00:50:25.369
I'm like, that's cute.
00:50:25.650 --> 00:50:26.829
Like I really said, like, that's cute.
00:50:26.869 --> 00:50:27.309
Like, that's cool.
00:50:27.329 --> 00:50:28.391
You're going to work with video gamers.
00:50:28.411 --> 00:50:28.670
But like,
00:50:28.731 --> 00:50:30.251
I'm not sure if that's a full time thing.
00:50:30.731 --> 00:50:32.652
And now esports is a billion, billion,
00:50:32.692 --> 00:50:33.693
billion, billion, billion,
00:50:33.733 --> 00:50:34.733
billion dollar industry.
00:50:35.132 --> 00:50:37.454
And Kate, all she does is work for one HP,
00:50:38.335 --> 00:50:39.235
which is this organization
00:50:39.255 --> 00:50:40.394
of PTs and other people who
00:50:40.414 --> 00:50:41.235
just work with gamers.
00:50:41.356 --> 00:50:42.456
And I was like, wow,
00:50:42.536 --> 00:50:44.717
you can connect two random
00:50:44.757 --> 00:50:46.036
dots and they're going to
00:50:46.077 --> 00:50:46.818
laugh at you at first.
00:50:47.641 --> 00:50:48.661
And they are going to discount you.
00:50:48.681 --> 00:50:49.663
And they're going to say that's cute.
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And they're going to pass you on the head.
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And then if you... Honestly,
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the magic is just persist.
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Absolutely.
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Just persist.
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So if you want help with a podcast,
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I like helping podcasters.
00:51:03.507 --> 00:51:06.349
I'll bring you all the... Not tricks,
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but all the things that you
00:51:09.510 --> 00:51:10.690
might not know about or
00:51:10.710 --> 00:51:11.650
whatever that could save
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you five minutes or a headache.
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Okay.
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but that's, that's the value though.
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That's absolutely the value.
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Cause I've screwed up.
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So I can, I'm like, Oh, let me guess.
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You're doing this.
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And then it takes you this
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long to do this.
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And then you get tired.
00:51:23.704 --> 00:51:24.764
And then I'm like, no,
00:51:24.804 --> 00:51:25.865
why don't you do this, this, this.
00:51:25.945 --> 00:51:26.847
Cause I want you doing more
00:51:26.887 --> 00:51:29.489
of this and less of editing and whatever.
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Like, Oh, no, no, absolutely.
00:51:34.052 --> 00:51:34.152
Um,
00:51:34.393 --> 00:51:35.594
so what's the name of the podcast again?
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Say it.
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With Dr. Hanson PT.
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All right,
00:51:39.324 --> 00:51:40.364
we'll put the link in the show notes.
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I'll put the link in the stream.
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Is it available everywhere?
00:51:43.126 --> 00:51:44.528
It is available on Spotify.
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Apple has not yet allowed us
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on their platform.
00:51:47.530 --> 00:51:48.731
How long did you submit?
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Wow, it's been about, I think in January.
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No, no, no, no.
00:51:53.717 --> 00:51:54.516
There's an error somewhere.
00:51:54.697 --> 00:51:55.697
It's usually 72 hours.
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We'll fix that.
00:51:57.739 --> 00:51:59.061
That's a huge hurdle.
00:51:59.121 --> 00:52:00.121
That's the largest platform.
00:52:00.242 --> 00:52:01.884
I mean, Spotify's two, Apple's one.
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That's an error.
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We'll figure that out.
00:52:03.605 --> 00:52:04.365
We'll do that off air.
00:52:04.385 --> 00:52:05.005
We'll figure that out.
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That's awesome.
00:52:05.706 --> 00:52:06.568
That's a five-minute fix.
00:52:07.347 --> 00:52:08.427
Absolutely.
00:52:08.467 --> 00:52:08.626
Yeah.
00:52:08.666 --> 00:52:09.688
Google Podcasts.
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We're on there.
00:52:10.407 --> 00:52:13.467
We use a publisher,
00:52:13.527 --> 00:52:14.648
so they just send it out.
00:52:15.009 --> 00:52:15.728
Yeah.
00:52:15.768 --> 00:52:16.789
We'll talk as soon as we're
00:52:16.809 --> 00:52:17.188
done with this.
00:52:17.509 --> 00:52:18.769
We've got to do a parting shot, though.
00:52:18.789 --> 00:52:19.869
Are you ready for your parting shot?
00:52:20.489 --> 00:52:22.771
This is the parting shot.
00:52:22.811 --> 00:52:23.570
Parting shot brought to you
00:52:23.590 --> 00:52:24.391
by the Academy of
00:52:24.451 --> 00:52:25.610
Orthopedic Physical Therapy.
00:52:25.630 --> 00:52:28.351
Find them online at orthopt.org.
00:52:28.371 --> 00:52:29.532
They've got current concepts
00:52:29.692 --> 00:52:30.572
of orthopedic physical
00:52:30.592 --> 00:52:31.552
therapy in their fifth edition.
00:52:31.572 --> 00:52:32.972
That's like this really great roadmap.
00:52:33.925 --> 00:52:35.405
From wherever you are in your PT career,
00:52:35.425 --> 00:52:36.467
if you're like, I'm an ortho PT,
00:52:36.507 --> 00:52:37.126
I want to be better.
00:52:37.186 --> 00:52:37.788
Maybe I want to take that
00:52:37.847 --> 00:52:39.389
OCS exam or something.
00:52:39.528 --> 00:52:40.750
Take Current Concepts.
00:52:40.809 --> 00:52:41.769
It's just outlined and it's
00:52:41.989 --> 00:52:42.590
put together by the
00:52:42.630 --> 00:52:43.952
smartest people in ortho PT.
00:52:44.371 --> 00:52:45.672
OrthoPT.org.
00:52:45.733 --> 00:52:47.614
All right, Mathel, party shot,
00:52:47.813 --> 00:52:48.534
mic drop moment.
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What do you want to leave with people?
00:52:51.036 --> 00:52:52.958
Don't be afraid to, one,
00:52:52.978 --> 00:52:53.878
don't be afraid to fail.
00:52:54.378 --> 00:52:56.039
Two, just go out there and go do it.
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:56.981
Just get better.
00:52:57.400 --> 00:52:57.760
Every day,
00:52:57.820 --> 00:52:58.922
just go out there and get better.
00:52:59.574 --> 00:53:01.614
My buddy Boba Banko says 1% better,
00:53:01.614 --> 00:53:02.894
1% better every day, man.
00:53:03.295 --> 00:53:04.016
I'm not a math guy,
00:53:04.036 --> 00:53:04.856
but that adds up to a lot.
00:53:05.516 --> 00:53:06.275
That adds up to a lot.
00:53:06.295 --> 00:53:06.916
All right.
00:53:06.976 --> 00:53:07.976
Mattel, appreciate your time.
00:53:08.317 --> 00:53:09.318
Thanks for changing from a
00:53:09.398 --> 00:53:10.777
recording to a live stream.
00:53:10.838 --> 00:53:12.338
I just, I like, it's funny.
00:53:12.418 --> 00:53:14.039
Cause when you know, I sing with radio,
00:53:14.478 --> 00:53:15.940
when you know, people are listening.
00:53:17.023 --> 00:53:17.543
it's different.
00:53:17.563 --> 00:53:18.985
It feels like a different speed.
00:53:19.045 --> 00:53:21.186
It puts us, our brains, it's different.
00:53:21.226 --> 00:53:22.027
Like when you talk in front
00:53:22.047 --> 00:53:23.347
of a group or you're talking alone,
00:53:23.867 --> 00:53:24.449
it's different.
00:53:24.568 --> 00:53:25.789
And I, and I don't know,
00:53:25.829 --> 00:53:27.291
when we first got on the screen,
00:53:27.331 --> 00:53:28.251
I was like, he's got a vibe.
00:53:28.271 --> 00:53:31.153
He's got a cool microphone, headphones.
00:53:31.193 --> 00:53:32.074
Like he knows what he's doing.
00:53:32.094 --> 00:53:33.835
All right.
00:53:34.135 --> 00:53:34.876
Uh, don't hang up.
00:53:34.976 --> 00:53:37.038
I want to talk about podcast specs, but,
00:53:37.378 --> 00:53:37.458
uh,
00:53:37.538 --> 00:53:38.518
I'm going to sign off the live stream.
00:53:39.179 --> 00:53:39.500
All right.
00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:39.940
All right.
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:40.420
They said the best
00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:41.822
conversations happen at happy hour.
00:53:42.121 --> 00:53:42.782
Thanks for coming on.
00:53:47.465 --> 00:53:47.994
Thank you.