PT Is Political. Lean In.

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It doesn't really matter, but oh,

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look at that, huh?

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Huh?

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Huh?

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And we're looking here.

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I mean, look at me.

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Oh,

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that's not the button I want to use.

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Oh, wow.

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That's our intro music as we go live

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from APTACSM here in Anaheim, California.

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I knew Disneyland was here.

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I didn't know it was like across the

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street.

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I'm walking back from dinner last night.

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Might have had a drink or two.

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And I was like, there's like a...

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employee entrance right here.

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Can we dip in and wear a Mickey

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suit?

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What would happen if we could do that?

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Rachel and Priscilla, Rachel,

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you're no stranger to the show.

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How did that episode go over?

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We'll see tomorrow if we get a bunch

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of people at our session.

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People who heard the episode,

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how did that go over?

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It was legit.

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It was encouraging.

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So we talked about peer review and how

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it's not as scary as you think.

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And researchers and journal editors are

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just people trying to get your work out

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there.

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And let me know if my suggestion will

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be adopted,

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which is if people are afraid of red

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ink, what if we just change the color?

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Because sometimes the answer is just

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simple.

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Yeah,

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this is supposed to scare people away.

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And Priscilla,

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what's your superhero backstory?

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Hi, I'm a Student Physical Therapist,

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University of Washington.

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Nice.

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I'm a first-generation Latina woman,

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and I'm here, you know, representing.

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I'm sorry, you said first year?

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Yes, I'm a first year.

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And you're jumping into CSM.

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Good for you.

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No, not first year.

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I'm so sorry.

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I'm a first-generation Latina woman.

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And where are you in PT school?

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I'm in University of Washington.

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In what year?

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I am a second year.

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Second year.

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Perfect.

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So how's, is this your first CSM?

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Yeah, this is my first CSM.

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How's, I mean, we're still a day young,

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but like, how's expectation?

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Is this what you thought?

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There's a lot.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's a lot,

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but it's so good though.

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Like I need to make halfway through my,

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the whole booth.

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Yeah.

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Pace yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Water.

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Yeah.

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Water.

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I say it's a circus with eighteen circuses

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in it.

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Yeah.

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That's how it feels.

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Yeah.

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just everywhere you go there's another

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loud thing and yeah yeah some smells

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wafting in from popcorn for some reason a

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lot of popcorn so what are we talking

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about today well we threw i threw uh

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priscilla into the fire this morning so

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she interviewed a bunch of editors of ptj

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journal about the future of research and

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how to get students uh interested and

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involved in research and so we kind of

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wanted to continue that conversation with

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you so what are the answers how do

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we get students not intimidated but to

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embrace

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I think being curious.

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I think ultimately all the questions of

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researchers were saying like students

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don't have to be curious,

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asking questions and wanting to go into

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areas where they're not as exposed or

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learned about a lot.

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You know,

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there's a lot of literature that we still

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need to like be open to.

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having more time to have to open to

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the different literatures that are out

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there.

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And I think as for me,

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like now I want to have an interest

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in research because I feel like there's

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questions that need to be asked.

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And I know there's a lot of students

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too that they want to find more and

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more interest and there's too many

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questions that need to be answered still.

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And you're going to be, I mean,

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when did you say research was something

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I'm not going to be intimidated by but

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I'm going to lean into?

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I think this morning, this morning,

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my mind was blown up.

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Yeah.

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But I think ultimately it's because I come

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from like a background that there's not

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answers strictly saying like, oh yeah,

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there's answers for this,

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answers for this.

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But when, for example,

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my family does not believe that much in

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physical therapy.

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My mom was kind of skeptical with going

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to physical therapy.

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She was kind of like,

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does it really work?

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You know,

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like she was asking those questions.

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And, you know,

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I grew up being going to the farms,

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picking cherries early at night or in the

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morning.

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And then I would see firsthand

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musculoskeletal injuries every single day.

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Sure.

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And till this day,

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there is no research about musculoskeletal

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injury with the farm working community.

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And they're just like, whoa,

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I don't know about anything about physical

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therapy.

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It's because we haven't shown them the

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avenues to go to get treated.

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And that limits access,

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that limits self-efficacy for them too.

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So that affects them financially and able

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to support their families.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The downstream effects of that.

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It goes back into policy.

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I think they were talking about like if

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there's if policy is a big thing and

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if we don't help those communities that

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need it more,

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then we're kind of eliminating those gray

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areas.

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They're not able to get access.

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And we're not asking those questions that

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we need to get answers from.

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Yeah.

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And someone's got to ask them.

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Yeah.

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And follow it through.

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Yeah.

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But research can be intimidating.

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I remember the first couple of times I

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tried to read a paper.

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It was just it's a very it can

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be very precise language.

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Right.

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Where you might use a word.

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in just regular everyday vernacular you

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use it in research it means something

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different sometimes that can be sort of a

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of a barrier so you have to be

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sort of committed but i think uh an

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episode like yours previously on the show

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shows that the goal isn't to keep people

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out the goal is um to achieve

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understanding to to make sure that not not

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to just keep it uh to a small

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group um

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How do we get more people excited about

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research?

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How do we make more Priscilla's?

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And my goal is to get PTs excited

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about research and health policy and

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health systems.

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And that's what Priscilla is a great

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example of is someone who has

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a passion and questions about a community

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that's underserved.

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Well, there's a reason for that, right?

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Because no one asked the question.

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There's a political and policy reason,

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a structural reason,

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behind a lot of these disparities.

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It's probably not an accident.

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Yeah.

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And so if we're not...

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as rehab providers at the table in those

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policy discussions,

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kind of leaning into learning more about

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how decisions get made and not shying away

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from health policy as like, Oh,

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that's too political.

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That doesn't have to do with my clinic.

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Like that's not the reality.

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So that's what Priscilla and I kind of

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got together because she's on the, um,

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She's the DEI chair for the student SIG

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for APTA Washington.

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And I gave a talk to the students

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about how PT is political and you can't

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have health policy without politics and

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you just have to own your biases,

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but also not shy away from that in

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conversations with students because

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we operate in a healthcare system that is

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a political system.

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And we had a great outcome in that

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workshop that we did,

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and I think lots of students were

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intrigued by it,

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and many wanted to have more and more

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topics of this,

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even though they're really uncomfortable,

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but we have to talk about them.

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We can't be the elephant in the room,

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so I think it's important that we're

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asking those questions,

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and I think as students,

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we need to ask them now,

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And then so we can have knowledge.

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And so we're in the workplace,

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like we know,

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like we have at least something to say.

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Like we have something to say to patients

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if they ask us.

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Like we can't be like, oh,

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I don't know.

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I didn't learn that in school.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't know about your insurance

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coverage.

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Yeah, I don't know how that works.

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Like that's too, I don't know.

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I guess I'm businessy, but like too, like,

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I don't know.

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Too health policy.

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Yeah, too health policy.

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Yeah, yeah.

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What's success look like in five years for

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both of you?

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Where do you want to be?

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Let's start with you.

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Let's see.

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I'm probably going to get a little

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emotional.

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Good.

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Yeah.

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Tears are coming down, I think.

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Whoa.

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Okay.

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So I think in five years I want

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to have my own clinic on the east

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side of Washington.

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It's a big agricultural area and I really

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want to help out the farm working

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community,

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educate them and tell them like, hey,

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these are services that are provided for

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you and you need to go seek them.

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And they do work.

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And that's why research comes in later

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being like, hey,

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this is research right here.

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I'm showing you right here.

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It's a publication.

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This is what I did.

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And I know it's scary at first because

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I know it's scary for people to go

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into these clinics and saying,

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it's not the same way as you go

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in with a doctor's visit.

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So I think in five years,

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I want to establish my own business,

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helping out the community and doing global

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health also too.

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Good.

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Good.

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Love to hear it.

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What does success look like five years

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from now?

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Good luck following that, by the way.

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Yeah, I know.

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I'm never going to live up to Priscilla.

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No,

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I want to keep fostering those sorts of

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passions in the students like her that

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keep coming.

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I do a lot more research than teaching

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in my role,

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but there are

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and you know it's health policy is a

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niche area where a lot of pt students

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aren't really interested but i'm growing

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this sort of you know it's planting the

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seeds that this is something that students

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can get involved with early and often and

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i just want to keep kind of building

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the cadre of rehab researchers in health

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policy and in ten years you get to

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make more students behind you yeah that's

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the way that's how it works good yeah

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we have to all right the uh

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We have a tradition on the show.

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It's called the parting shot.

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Rachel's aware of this.

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This is the parting shot.

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One last mic drop moment.

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No pressure.

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Just your legacy on the line.

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All right, parting shot.

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Just your last chance for a mic drop

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moment.

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What do you want to leave with the

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audience?

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We'll let Rachel go first.

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You can see what her,

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because she's done this one before.

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My mic drop moment is PT is political.

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There's no way to avoid it.

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Can't get rid of it.

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Lean in.

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Yeah, lean in.

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I'm going to say si se puede.

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Yes.

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Would that be translated for me?

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Yes, you can.

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There you go.

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Love that.

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Rachel, Priscilla,

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thanks for coming out and doing a little

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live stream as we are here at CSM.

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make a date five years from now oh

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wow i want to see that in re

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we'll catch up and i want to well

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maybe in between there but i would like

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to love to see the pressures but good

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pressure right because it's what you want

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to do yes that's true you're a pt

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we set goals and then we uh we

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want to you know meet the goal yeah

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thanks for stopping by and telling us that

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yeah thank you