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Do you wanna know the truth or do you want to have been right? And the best way to do. That is to continuously ask yourself what other explanations, you could find for anything that you believe how else could you see the world or see a particular thing that that you’re witnessing. You know, whether it’s in the clinic, and you’re watching the the results of an intervention. How are all the ways you can explain those results and be as crazy as you want? I mean, the whole idea there is, you know, it’s okay to be thinking and just to be throwing ideas out because a lot of times, you’ll some across something that all of a sudden that actually is more likely, and that would change the way I would use this intervention. Keep things thinking. No stranger to show as guest today is Eric Mera. Eric was one of our very first guest. When we started this crazy show back in two thousand fifteen. He’s also got his own show called PT inquest. We talk about that what goes into us programming than the pitfalls of that. And some different ways to to look at things that you probably look at a lot. That’s I think what Eric’s best at is highlighting those things and letting you see things differently. He he’s great at that show’s brought to you by Owens recovery. Science can’t say enough about Johnny Owens and his team. They’re just a great organization if you’re looking to get certified and personalized blood flow restriction rehabilitation training. Plus, they they have the equipment you need to apply that plus what they also have for free is the research. They’re the guys doing the research on this. They’re leading the field all around the world. So check out what they have going on at Owens recovery. Science dot com. Broadcasting to physical therapists around the world is this is the PT pine cast. May I introduce me to introduce you to here’s your host, physical therapist, Jimmy MacKay. Best conversations happen at happy hour. Welcome two hours. No stranger to the program. Back on the show is Eric Mera. Eric thanks for coming back, man. Hey, thanks for having me back. I always enjoy chatting with you Jimmy and just for the audience’s knowledge because we’re we did this yesterday and failed computer messed up and didn’t record the conversation full. So I was like man we had such a great conversation. That was a great driver on. Let’s do it again. So for the audience take two, it’s okay. I don’t I don’t remember many conversations. I have anyway. So yeah, we wanted to want to bring you on. If anybody doesn’t know Eric in his work. He’s got his own podcast called P T inquest. You can find that wherever podcasts are sold. And by Seoul. We mean giving away for free, which is itchy and you’re on Spotify. We found out. That’s right. Yeah. When we try to record this the first time, you’re asking me about and I was like, I don’t think I’m on Spotify. But yeah, I’ve actually been on Spotify. For awhile apparent when people find that you have podcast for me to like. Okay. Cool. Your dork. What’s your show about that was kind of like ask? When people ask you about PT inquest. What are you? What do you tell? Oh, ours is a very specific show. I do it with j w Matheson, it’s a I like to describe it as a online journal club. So we get an article we the the two of us up over Skype, and we just talk about the article what it says what it doesn’t say. You know, Jay w I h have over twenty years of experience as cynical therapists. And we’ve always been pretty tight with the with research in general and studying research, and so just having that that background of seeing a lot of papers for a couple of decades. Now, we can really give a lot of insight into into what emerging research is trying to accomplish. And how it how it kind of is interpreted in the context of previous research while you’re like the guy from the matrix in the beginning when Neil I wakes up. He sees the screen, and it’s all ones and zeroes. The that is like I see blonde brunette redhead. You just you look through the code. You can see. That’s right. I can can read the code behind it, all that’s awesome. Well, you’ve been doing this for a while. Have you ever never asked you this have you ever received somebody that you reviewed their paper reaching out either positively negatively or is that ever happened? Yeah. Actually both. We we had one of our favorite episodes was one on looking at orthopedic surgeons and how they handle uncertainty and whether or not somebody who has a hard time handling uncertainty how that affects their practice. And so the researchers actually listened to it and and emailed us, and they’re being surgeon that did that did the research study in particular, and they were they were giddy over it of how how much of an impact that had on us and the comments that we have made. So that was pretty cool. But then yeah, we definitely get the occasional. Hey, how a little more respect for her. He’s like, well, how about you have a little more respect for the research by doing a quality study instead of the crap that you put out and to me that’s more offensive, right? It’s a good point. Someone I feel like maybe an is coming from me someone who’s never got anything published. Besides the podcast episode that some people like why got published? It means everything I did was valid and valuable, and and but like that’s the thing about science that learned that from you one of our first episodes was it’s fluid.