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In this episode, Jimmy enjoys a Boddingtons Pub Ale and a chat with 2016 Golden Pen Award and Maley Lecture Award recipient Steve George. Steve shares how it feels to be the recipient of such accolades and address his colleagues, and details behind the pain research that earned him these awards. He provides his insights into understanding pain, from viewing it as a behavior, to the ways therapists should interact with patients reporting pain, and discusses the direction in which the #ChoosePT campaign should move. Steve also gives suggestions of pain researchers to watch, as well as some non-PT-related reading recommendations.